Re: create new XO-1 build with Gnash update?
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Walter, Mikus! Sorry I need to clarify. What I meant was create a new *official stable build* for the XO-1 with a newer version of Gnash pre-installed. One that does not need a developer key. Well, in Paraguay, I understand that it is an official build, as large deployments can sign their own builds. I don't know the exact time frame for OLPC's official release of their F11 builds for the XO 1.0 and XO 1.5, but I suspect it is going to happen soon. cjb will know. -walter I installed the Paraguay build about a month ago but there were still some bugs. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish/ - That's the one, right? -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: challenges of distro switching
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: A mountain of packages and their corresponding effects on the system, ... It also invalidates many processes that myself and others have been training in the field, such as usage of rpm/yum, how to write spec files, etc. These two points are incredibly important. We do not use Fedora superficially -- we use it in depth to achieve some unique features. And while the 'core dev' team is familiar with Debian/Ubuntu, Gentoo and a few other linuxen, the OLPC ecosystem involves people who have made important investments in learning this toolchain. The third point is that the polish of the whole product comes down to subtle interactions between the components. We work hard to make everything Just Work for the components and hardware of a given release, and it takes time and work. Doing it for another distro takes... time and work. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Free software for an ARM tablet?
On Sat, 29 May 2010, imm wrote: I don't have a voice here, but I have spent a while playing with Moblin (and more recently MeeGo), and also with the Android SDK's. (Caveat: this was for an experimental platform I have been trying out; I have actually written exactly 0 useful apps with either platform...) FWIW, then, I'd suggest that MeeGo is a substantially better fit for Sugar than Android is. I think that this only matters if you have someone who is using Sugar already and you are wanting to make the best Sugar distro. However, there is not a large installed base of Sugar users, so I think that having Sugar available as an option for people to run who are already running Android (substatute any 'poor fit' linux system here) will be a win as it gives people who are already running that system the ability to try Sugar and stick to it if they like it. David Lang That's just my opinion, of course, and carries no weight, but I felt I had to say something here; Android seems to have a lot of buzz around it, but it's not really all that much like a stock linux, in awkward and irritating ways, and I am not persuaded of it's openness... (As for MeeGo, I quite liked Clutter, but it seems to be relegated to a secondary role now.) On the plus side, it does seem that all the phone OS vendors are doing a lot of groundwork to make the Sugar-style one whole screen app at a time approach acceptable to end users. Even the iPad helps in that regard, I guess.. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Tecnologia] Adaptación de cargador múltiple, by CATS.
Another problem is getting XO compatible cables. We used cables from broken XO chargers, but this cables mostly (like 8 out of 10) break at the tip, so they generally need to be fixed to be reliable. And they don't end un looking pretty :) I'm working on getting the plug + cable (ending in bare wires) added as a replacement part. Everyone interested in getting cables can help me by providing an estimate of how many you need. If they were available now how many of them would you be ordering? Also how many do you project you will need in the future. Some sort of numbers on the failure rate will help too. How long are they out in the field before they fail? Also it would be useful if someone can send me a collection of failed plugs. That would be useful to analyze the failures and see if they are force failure or fatigue. -- Richard A. Smith ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1 build + Gnash update
Well, in Paraguay, I understand that it is an official build, as large deployments can sign their own builds. Hi Walter! Thanks again, but I was thinking of global official builds rather than localized builds like with Paraguay (even though from the looks of things, it's the most advanced build right now?) I don't know the exact time frame for OLPC's official release of their F11 builds for the XO 1.0 and XO 1.5, but I suspect it is going to happen soon. cjb will know. Q: Does this mean that the Sugar-only builds are going to be deprecated in favor of the F11 builds? (which seem to still have issues and so do not qualify as Stable builds yet) Back to the topic: For those in charge of the official stable build: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ Is it possible to just release a new official version of 802 with one simple change -- just package the latest stable version of Gnash with it? (I think Rob Savoye has such a build and has it working well). This should help solve some of the Flash issues and should warrant a little less complaints. Regards, -Naz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
schematic for olpc
Hello, I'm interested in exploring the use of the microphone jack for other input devices. Before I start plugging things in at random, I need to understand what the circuitry at the input looks like. I assume the schematics can be found on the wiki, but I haven't been able to locate them. Can someone point me at the right page? Thanks, Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?
Hi guys! There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now: * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84) * OLPC F11 - OS11 * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88 * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15 For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which are the snapshots I should use for long-term testing of Flash, Gnash AIR? Should I still test against 802 or should I just test against the Paraguay build? I have 2 XO-1s I can do testing on, with a third one is on loan to a Phlashers teammate who's also doing some testing. We're going to install Adobe Flash on 2 of the Machines and Gnash on the 3rd machine. Which OS builds should we install on the 3 machines given the above configurations? I'm thinking 802 + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Gnash. Are these the optimal configuations we can test against for the purposes of reporting back results on the wikis given 3 XO-1 machines? We'll be using latest stable builds of Flash, Gnash AIR. Regards, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?
carlos wrote: Hi guys! There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now: * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84) * OLPC F11 - OS11 * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88 * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15 For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which are the snapshots I should use for long-term testing of Flash, Gnash AIR? Should I still test against 802 or should I just test against the Paraguay build? I have 2 XO-1s I can do testing on, with a third one is on loan to a Phlashers teammate who's also doing some testing. i think the paraguay build, which is based on F11, represents the future. while martin has an 802 point release in progress, i think it's pretty much done, and he's unlikely to take any more changes to it (but he'll correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure). the released 802 might be interesting as a baseline, but not much more, i'd think. paul We're going to install Adobe Flash on 2 of the Machines and Gnash on the 3rd machine. Which OS builds should we install on the 3 machines given the above configurations? I'm thinking 802 + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Gnash. Are these the optimal configuations we can test against for the purposes of reporting back results on the wikis given 3 XO-1 machines? We'll be using latest stable builds of Flash, Gnash AIR. Regards, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1 build + Gnash update
On 6 June 2010 15:30, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: For those in charge of the official stable build: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/ Is it possible to just release a new official version of 802 with one simple change -- just package the latest stable version of Gnash with it? (I think Rob Savoye has such a build and has it working well). I think its unlikely. Your best bet (and more worthwhile option for all) would be to help out with the F11 stablization efforts. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: create new XO-1 build with Gnash update?
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 04:24:39AM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I installed the Paraguay build about a month ago but there were still some bugs. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish/ - That's the one, right? No. http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/ has the XO-1 official builds released by the Paraguay Educa technology team. os180py is the latest I see there at this time, dated 4th May. It contained (as did os129 of 7th April): gnash-0.8.7-1.fc11.i586 gnash-plugin-0.8.7-1.fc11.i586 I'm sure they'd like to hear about the bugs, and solutions. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: create new XO-1 build with Gnash update?
james wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 04:24:39AM +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: I installed the Paraguay build about a month ago but there were still some bugs. http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish/ - That's the one, right? No. http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/ has the XO-1 official builds released by the Paraguay Educa technology team. os180py is the latest I see there at this time, dated 4th May. It contained (as did os129 of 7th April): there are later releases (0.88 on F11) linked to from here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88_Notes (but they're not official, nor signed.) paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
