Re: ATTN: AbiWord 2.9.1 released!

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:

 2.9.x are development releases so they're not yet in an upstream fedora
 release. We use the version that ships in Fedora so at the moment its not
 much use.


 Peter,

 I guess that is one way to see it, but there are other perspectives.

 As 2.9.x represents the first development release of what will become 3.0,
 now is the ideal time to begin looking at it as AbiWord is OLPC's word
 processor of choice on the GNOME boot side and word processing is an
 important activity to deployments.  Better to engage early and have the
 opportunity to shape the direction of further development than to show up
 late to the party.

 Some of the key features now present in the 2.9.x series represent the
 culmination of work that was done collaboratively between OLPC and AbiWord
 to develop the Write activity a few years ago.  These features include
 support for collaboration via Telepathy (Jabber/XMPP), so it's release an
 achievement in which OLPC can share some pride with it's friends from
 Collabora who contributed to making this possible.  Improved support for RTL
 languages like Arabic and Hebrew made substantial gains through work on
 Write and is a feature of importance to some of OLPC's deployments.  The
 experiemental EPUB authoring plug-in has the potential to greatly facility
 sharable content creation on the XO.


There's a number of important points that you completely miss. Abiword
already has collaboration support in Fedora due to the OLPC collaboration
from eons ago. This has been the case for ages. We have for quite some time
used mostly upstream Fedora to minimise doubled work. This change changes it
to upstream XMPP standards (at least that's my understanding) and I don't
know how that would work with the existing versions which would in turn
break all existing deployments.


 Or I suppose you could ignore it until 3.0 ships and then figure this stuff
 out in a rush and be too late to have any influence or further leverage the
 historical ties between OLPC and AbiWord that have so far proven remarkably
 beneficial to both communities, YMMV.


I think those comments are both naive, misinformed and irrelevant. We aren't
ignoring it, it will go into Fedora when the upstream maintainer who also
happens to be the Fedora maintain and the person who did all the
collaboration work for OLPC back in the day believes its ready to do so. I
believe that will be in what is currently rawhide, so what will become
F-16/SoaS-6 where we can properly test it and see what impact it will have.

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Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)

2011-07-11 Thread Andrew van der Stock
I'll try this tomorrow night when I come home. 

thanks,
Andrew

On 08/07/2011, at 4:57 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

 The Melbourne XO Club meets on 16 July, as part of the LUV Beginners' 
 Workshop:
 
 http://lists.luv.asn.au/wws/arc/luv-announce/2011-07/msg1.html
 http://luv.asn.au/2011/07/16
 
 We need to have a release out by 25 July, which is the start of Term 3
 in Northern Territory schools.
 
 This release won't be directly available for XO-1s (we're phasing
 those out). You can install our last (and latest stable) release
 (10.1.3-au2) and run the upgrade routine. Your feedback on this would
 be very valuable, as this is our intended method of getting our XO-1s
 onto 10.1.3-au3.
 
 Installing 10.1.3-au2[0] can be done by directly writing the image to
 the XO, or through our XO-AU USB 2[1]. Once your XO is flashed and
 working, you can run the upgrade routine as already outlined. To
 repeat:
 
 1. extract the ZIP file[3] to a USB drive
 2. plug into the XO
 3. turn on
 
 Once the upgrade stick verifies that you have a 10.1.3-au release
 installed, it will upgrade the OS to 10.1.3-au3.
 
 Cheers,
 Sridhar
 
 
 [0] http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au2_release_notes
 [1] http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/USB/2/xo-au-usb-2-xo1.zip
 [3] 
 http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip
 
 
 
 On 8 July 2011 09:25, Andrew van der Stock vande...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne
 CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if
 you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I
 know bug me about some of the trial builds.
 
 thanks,
 Andrew
 
 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
 Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct:
 
 https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip
 
 Thanks.  Looks neat, well done.  Please upstream any useful stuff.
 
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Re: [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Luke,

I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email 
(subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some digging found 
it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who else this may have hit, 
but thought it worth mentioning.

Regards,
--Gary

On 10 Jul 2011, at 23:45, Luke Faraone wrote:

 On 06/14/2011 05:42 PM, Luke Faraone wrote:
 This is a vote to determine the suggested license for future releases
 of Sugar. This poll will run from right now until Wed Jun 29 2011 at 
 midnight UTC-4.
 
 Sorry for the late update; the reporting mechanism for our voting
 software temporarily broke.
 
 Summary: the winner was **GNU GPL version 3, or any later version**.
 
 ## Results Details ##
 
 55 out of 217 eligible members voted, or a little more than ¼.
 
 The full results of this election ranked the candidates in order of
 preference (from most preferred to least preferred):
 
 1. GNU GPL version 3, or any later version
 2. GNU GPL version 2, or any later version
 3. Don't know or don't care
 
 
 Each number in the table below shows how many times the candidate on the
 left beat the matching candidate on the top. The winner is on the top of
 the left column.
   v3  v2  DC
 v3--  34  37
 v221  --  42
 DC18  13  --
 
 Based on a sheer count of 1st place votes, v3 received 49% of the vote,
 v2 received 29% of the vote, and the apathetic position received the
 remaining 22% of the vote.
 
 Full details (and alternative election method calculations) are visible
 at the Selectricity page linked in the original voting ticket email.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Luke Faraone
 Sugar Labs, Systems
 ✉: l...@sugarlabs.org
 I: lfaraone on irc.freenode.net
 
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Re: [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Me too :(
And with a gmail account too.

Gonzalo

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi Luke,

 I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email
 (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some digging
 found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who else this may
 have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.

 Regards,
 --Gary

 On 10 Jul 2011, at 23:45, Luke Faraone wrote:

  On 06/14/2011 05:42 PM, Luke Faraone wrote:
  This is a vote to determine the suggested license for future releases
  of Sugar. This poll will run from right now until Wed Jun 29 2011 at
  midnight UTC-4.
 
  Sorry for the late update; the reporting mechanism for our voting
  software temporarily broke.
 
  Summary: the winner was **GNU GPL version 3, or any later version**.
 
  ## Results Details ##
 
  55 out of 217 eligible members voted, or a little more than ¼.
 
  The full results of this election ranked the candidates in order of
  preference (from most preferred to least preferred):
 
  1. GNU GPL version 3, or any later version
  2. GNU GPL version 2, or any later version
  3. Don't know or don't care
 
 
  Each number in the table below shows how many times the candidate on the
  left beat the matching candidate on the top. The winner is on the top of
  the left column.
v3  v2  DC
  v3--  34  37
  v221  --  42
  DC18  13  --
 
  Based on a sheer count of 1st place votes, v3 received 49% of the vote,
  v2 received 29% of the vote, and the apathetic position received the
  remaining 22% of the vote.
 
  Full details (and alternative election method calculations) are visible
  at the Selectricity page linked in the original voting ticket email.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Luke Faraone
  Sugar Labs, Systems
  ✉: l...@sugarlabs.org
  I: lfaraone on irc.freenode.net
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Luke Faraone l...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 On 07/10/2011 10:23 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
  I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email
  (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some
  digging found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who
  else this may have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.

 Odd. Did you at least get the mail from Selectricity?


FWIW: I just went through the spam folder on my university e-mail account (
e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at) where I've previously received the
Selectricity messages but can't find anything message about this election.

I did however get Luke's announcement on June 14 but hadn't read it until
now:-/

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On 11 July 2011 03:23, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Luke,

 I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email 
 (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some digging 
 found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who else this may have 
 hit, but thought it worth mentioning.

I was not included on the members ballot even though I have voted
before. Similarly, I wonder if I'm the only one in this situation.

Daniel
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Re: [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Luke,

On 11 Jul 2011, at 16:43, Luke Faraone wrote:

 On 07/10/2011 10:23 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
 I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email
 (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some
 digging found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who
 else this may have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.
 
 Odd. Did you at least get the mail from Selectricity?

Not that I was aware of, but I just did a search for selectricity and found a 
June 15th email [Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding)] Election 
Begun! again tagged as spam and unread. I'm using gmail, it usually does an 
excellent job with spam, so something's clearly triggered their filters.

--Gary

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RE: [SoaS] [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi...
I was in the middle of a crowd/parade of houseguests and completely overlooked 
the Selectricity email.  A reminder message from Luke directly to the eligible 
voters with a catchy, not-to-be missed Subject line would be helpful next time. 
 Sorry I missed this one.
Caryl

 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:03:06 +0100
 From: d...@laptop.org
 To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org
 CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
 s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; l...@sugarlabs.org; 
 de...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: [SoaS] [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum 
 (non-binding) results
 
 On 11 July 2011 03:23, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Hi Luke,
 
  I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email 
  (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some digging 
  found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who else this may 
  have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.
 
 I was not included on the members ballot even though I have voted
 before. Similarly, I wonder if I'm the only one in this situation.
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Luke Faraone l...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 On 07/10/2011 10:23 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
  I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email
  (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some
  digging found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who
  else this may have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.

 Odd. Did you at least get the mail from Selectricity?


It came through on my gmail and wasn't marked as spam but I was busy and
forgot about the election. I would have thought there would have been a
reminder.

Peter
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Re: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment

2011-07-11 Thread Tim McNamara
Btw are the details of the Timor Leste deployment public? Would love to
promote this to the NZ list
On 12/07/2011 6:07 AM, Tim Moody timmo...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 You didn't mention the make and model of your WAP, but it sounds like it
is
 acting as a dhcp server and a dns server. When it hands the xo an ip addr
 it also says that it is the dns server (192.168.1.1). I'm guessing the xos

 can find each other, just not the server.

 Some wireless routers allow you to add static addresses to the dhcp/dns
and
 some even discover them, but don't know the device name. If yours does,
 just add 192.168.1.100 and tell the WAP that its name is Schoolserver.

 If you want to use the XS as dns, I think you will need to use it as dhcp
as
 well. I know the AU-XS folks are working on a simple way to turn this on,
 but I'm not sure if it is in place yet. In this case you need to turn dhcp

 off in your WAP.

 What happens if you go into the networking maintenance section on the xo
and
 tell it that your schoolserver is 192.168.1.100 rather than giving it a
 name? Of course, this would be a clumsy approach because you would have to

 do it in every xo.


 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:08:16 +0930
 From: Tom Daly tdal...@gmail.com
 To: server-de...@lists.laptop.org
 Subject: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment
 Message-ID: 31eb7c54-99ff-436f-b213-fa7c6cef1...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Dear all,

 A colleague and I are working on a small XO deployment in East Timor and
 are having trouble accessing the XS server from the XOs. We are using the

 Australian XS server software builds and are using a wireless access
 point that is NOT connected to the internet. Our issue is that as we are
 not connected to the internet we do not have *easy* access to a DNS
 server. My first plan was to simply use the IP address from the XOs to
 access the school server e.g. http://192.168.1.100 but the XOs still seem

 to want to use DNS.

 Question: can I easily turn on DNS server on the XS given that we do not
 have an internet connection ?
 If so how do I do this ?

 On the XO's :
 /etc/nsswitch.conf says files dns
 And /etc/resolv.conf appears to get the nameserver 192.168.1.1 entry when

 the XO connects to the WAP for the first time.

 So
 XO Server  WAP -- XS Server |

 thanks for any assistance
 Tom


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Content Proposal, Universal Declaration of Human Rights

2011-07-11 Thread Chris Leonard
All,

With assistance from Gonzalo on the texts and good advice from dsd and
Cerlyn on downsampling OGG files I've managed to build this content
bundle and trim it down to 17.3 MB.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:UDHRLatAmCarib.xol

The texts and the English, Simple English and Spanish OGG files are
self-contained, other voice files and the teacher's guide PDFs are
external links.

Please try out this bundle and consider it for inclusion in the
distributed OLPC content library.  Let me know if there are any
questions.

cjl
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Re: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment

2011-07-11 Thread Tim Moody
You didn't mention the make and model of your WAP, but it sounds like it is 
acting as a dhcp server and a dns server.  When it hands the xo an ip addr 
it also says that it is the dns server (192.168.1.1).  I'm guessing the xos 
can find each other, just not the server.


Some wireless routers allow you to add static addresses to the dhcp/dns and 
some even discover them, but don't know the device name.  If yours does, 
just add 192.168.1.100 and tell the WAP that its name is Schoolserver.


If you want to use the XS as dns, I think you will need to use it as dhcp as 
well.  I know the AU-XS folks are working on a simple way to turn this on, 
but I'm not sure if it is in place yet.  In this case you need to turn dhcp 
off in your WAP.


What happens if you go into the networking maintenance section on the xo and 
tell it that your schoolserver is 192.168.1.100 rather than giving it a 
name?  Of course, this would be a clumsy approach because you would have to 
do it in every xo.




Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:08:16 +0930
From: Tom Daly tdal...@gmail.com
To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org
Subject: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment
Message-ID: 31eb7c54-99ff-436f-b213-fa7c6cef1...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear all,

A colleague and I are working on a small XO deployment in East Timor and 
are having trouble accessing the XS server from the XOs.  We are using the 
Australian XS server software builds  and are using a wireless access 
point that is NOT connected to the internet.  Our issue is that as we are 
not connected to the internet we do not have *easy* access to a DNS 
server. My first plan was to simply use the IP address from the XOs to 
access the school server e.g. http://192.168.1.100 but the XOs still seem 
to want to use DNS.


Question: can I easily turn on DNS server on the XS given that we do not 
have an internet connection ?

If so how do I do this ?

On the XO's :
/etc/nsswitch.conf  saysfiles dns
And /etc/resolv.conf appears to get the nameserver 192.168.1.1 entry when 
the XO connects to the WAP for the first time.


So
XO Server   WAP -- XS Server |

thanks for any assistance
Tom



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Re: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment

2011-07-11 Thread Asher Bond
It is possible configure a DHCP server to give out the DNS server(s)
of choice as well as the gateway IP and host addresses of choice. It's
a matter of choosing a configurable, efficient, reliable DHCP server
and turning off the one(s) that you don't like so that they don't
fight over who's in charge of assigning addresses on the segment.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Tim Moody timmo...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 You didn't mention the make and model of your WAP, but it sounds like it is
 acting as a dhcp server and a dns server.  When it hands the xo an ip addr
 it also says that it is the dns server (192.168.1.1).  I'm guessing the xos
 can find each other, just not the server.

 Some wireless routers allow you to add static addresses to the dhcp/dns and
 some even discover them, but don't know the device name.  If yours does,
 just add 192.168.1.100 and tell the WAP that its name is Schoolserver.

 If you want to use the XS as dns, I think you will need to use it as dhcp as
 well.  I know the AU-XS folks are working on a simple way to turn this on,
 but I'm not sure if it is in place yet.  In this case you need to turn dhcp
 off in your WAP.

 What happens if you go into the networking maintenance section on the xo and
 tell it that your schoolserver is 192.168.1.100 rather than giving it a
 name?  Of course, this would be a clumsy approach because you would have to
 do it in every xo.


 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:08:16 +0930
 From: Tom Daly tdal...@gmail.com
 To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org
 Subject: [Server-devel] DNS question for East Timor deployment
 Message-ID: 31eb7c54-99ff-436f-b213-fa7c6cef1...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Dear all,

 A colleague and I are working on a small XO deployment in East Timor and
 are having trouble accessing the XS server from the XOs.  We are using the
 Australian XS server software builds  and are using a wireless access point
 that is NOT connected to the internet.  Our issue is that as we are not
 connected to the internet we do not have *easy* access to a DNS server. My
 first plan was to simply use the IP address from the XOs to access the
 school server e.g. http://192.168.1.100 but the XOs still seem to want to
 use DNS.

 Question: can I easily turn on DNS server on the XS given that we do not
 have an internet connection ?
 If so how do I do this ?

 On the XO's :
 /etc/nsswitch.conf      says    files dns
 And /etc/resolv.conf appears to get the nameserver 192.168.1.1 entry when
 the XO connects to the WAP for the first time.

 So
 XO Server   WAP -- XS Server |

 thanks for any assistance
 Tom


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[Server-devel] pathagar trouble

2011-07-11 Thread Sameer Verma
So, I've been messing with running Pathagar. It runs fine as a
stanalone 127.0.0.1 django app. Next, I moved to mod_wsgi. This is
where I keep running into :

TemplateSyntaxError: Caught ImportError while rendering: No module
named pathagar.books

After looking at a bunch of docs, it seems like its a PythonPath
issue, but before I pull out any more hair, I'm pinging the lists. Has
anyone run Pathagar via mod_wsgi successfully? If so, care to share
your config?

I'm running on Debian Squeeze

cheers,
Sameer
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