Re: [Localization] [ANNOUNCE] 0.94 schedule update: still on track
On 09/13/2011 11:03 PM, Markus Schlager wrote:
Hi Simon,
Thanks Markus for the feedback,
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Simon Schampijer wrote:
There have been one interesting string change in the last week: there
are two entries in the sugar.po that translate the same string
('Remove') but where the context is different. This has been marked
now using pgettext. Chris has pulled that change to Pootle and all
langs sugar.po have been refreshed. An example can be seen at [3][4].
Please give feedback if that addition was helpful to do a better
translation or if anything can be improved.
Context-information is great for translation. In this example, 'volume'
as hint was not particularly helpful to me, since this has at least two
very different meanings in German. 'clipboard' on the other hand was
clear anyway since the source-hint says something about clipboard-menu.
Maybe the text should be more verbose. How about: 'remove item from
clipboard' and 'eject the external device'
One type of content-information I'd appreciate a lot would be about the
function/type of text this is: Is it e.g. a button lable, a menu entry,
a help text, ...
How would that be done, as well with msgctxt using pgettext? Or are
there other ways? In general that would be a bigger effort and would
need to define a few guidelines for that but can be done of course if
the translator community thinks this would help a lot.
Regards,
Simon
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Re: 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os5/ Thanks Peter. It would be neat if someone can test the olpc-update from build 4 (*not* any previous one) to this one, with sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5 as documented: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0 Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os5/
Thanks Peter.
It would be neat if someone can test the olpc-update from build 4
(*not* any previous one) to this one, with
sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5
as documented:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0
Created USB stick with os4.zd4
Booted 1.75 to OFW
Performed fs-update u:\os4.zd4
Performed reboot
Firmware was updated to Q4B09 on boot
Performed shutdown
Removed USB stick
Powered on and started to sugar (still not pretty boot) :-)
Noted that there is no power savings applet in the control panel settings
joined WPA2 network
started Terminal
logged in as root (su -)
Performed sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5 (start time 05:36)
Message appears: Downloading contents of build 11.3.0_xo1.75-5.
Message appears:Updating to version hash 85d9a6a379a1cc73a2519bdfd9605347
Message appears:Trying irsync_pristine update from rsync://
updates.laptop.org/build-11.3.0_xo1.75-5
Message appears:- Fetching contents.
Message appears- Performing incremental rsync. (noted that screen dims a
bit after about every 2 mins in this process, but that touching the touchpad
brought it back to full brightness)
Message appears:- Cleaning up (trac #5051)
Message appears:Verifying update.
Message appears:Installing update in
/versions/{pristine,run}/85d9a6a379a1cc73a2519bdfd9605347
Message appears::Cleaning up...
Message appears:Deleting old pristine version 4
Message appears: Deleting old contents for version 4
Message appears:Update succeeded!
Message appears:Restart your system to apply the update
(FYI The end time is now 05:49)
Performed reboot
seemed to start pretty boot but went quickly to text, message appeared about
purging previous versions with slight delay - went by too fast for me to
catch :-)
About my computer shows Build 5 customized, Sugar 0.93.4 - reconnected auto
to the WPA2 network
Performed shutdown
Powered on - seemed to start pretty boot with x and the first dot, went back
to text mode, booted very quickly Start chime is now nice and clean, but
there is still the scratchy sound after.
Started Terminal (prompt in pulsing icon is a symbol, the the prompt in
Terminal is a $)
logged in as root (su -)
Performed yum install cheese
Transaction was successful installing cheese and cheese-libs dependency
version 1:2.31.91-2.frc14.armv5tel
Switched to Gnome
WPA2 network did not autoconnect, (dint expect it to) - but connects
manually without issue just as in previosu versions
Started Cheese
Built in camera works like a charm
Inserted blank FAT32 8Gb SD card - automounts and shows contents, unmounted
card, but left in machine
Performed shutdown
Rebooted - does text boot, boots into Gnome, autoconnects to WPA2,
automounts SD card
Perfomed shutdown
Going to make coffee
All in all, a pretty satisfying experience!!!
Next ??
:-)
Cheers
KG
Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 06:08 -0400, Kevin Gordon wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os5/
Thanks Peter.
It would be neat if someone can test the olpc-update from
build 4
(*not* any previous one) to this one, with
sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5
as documented:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0
Created USB stick with os4.zd4
Booted 1.75 to OFW
Performed fs-update u:\os4.zd4
Performed reboot
Firmware was updated to Q4B09 on boot
Performed shutdown
Removed USB stick
Powered on and started to sugar (still not pretty boot) :-)
Noted that there is no power savings applet in the control panel
settings
joined WPA2 network
started Terminal
logged in as root (su -)
Performed sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5 (start time 05:36)
Message appears: Downloading contents of build 11.3.0_xo1.75-5.
Message appears:Updating to version hash
85d9a6a379a1cc73a2519bdfd9605347
Message appears:Trying irsync_pristine update from
rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-11.3.0_xo1.75-5
Message appears:- Fetching contents.
Message appears- Performing incremental rsync. (noted that screen
dims a bit after about every 2 mins in this process, but that touching
the touchpad brought it back to full brightness)
Message appears:- Cleaning up (trac #5051)
Message appears:Verifying update.
Message appears:Installing update
in /versions/{pristine,run}/85d9a6a379a1cc73a2519bdfd9605347
Message appears::Cleaning up...
Message appears:Deleting old pristine version 4
Message appears: Deleting old contents for version 4
Message appears:Update succeeded!
Message appears:Restart your system to apply the update
(FYI The end time is now 05:49)
Performed reboot
seemed to start pretty boot but went quickly to text, message appeared
about purging previous versions with slight delay - went by too fast
for me to catch :-)
About my computer shows Build 5 customized, Sugar 0.93.4 - reconnected
auto to the WPA2 network
That is as far as I got this morning, looks good. sleep now.
Jerry
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] [ANNOUNCE] 0.94 schedule update: still on track
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
On 09/13/2011 11:03 PM, Markus Schlager wrote:
Hi Simon,
Thanks Markus for the feedback,
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Simon Schampijer wrote:
There have been one interesting string change in the last week: there
are two entries in the sugar.po that translate the same string
('Remove') but where the context is different. This has been marked
now using pgettext. Chris has pulled that change to Pootle and all
langs sugar.po have been refreshed. An example can be seen at [3][4].
Please give feedback if that addition was helpful to do a better
translation or if anything can be improved.
Context-information is great for translation. In this example, 'volume'
as hint was not particularly helpful to me, since this has at least two
very different meanings in German. 'clipboard' on the other hand was
clear anyway since the source-hint says something about clipboard-menu.
Maybe the text should be more verbose. How about: 'remove item from
clipboard' and 'eject the external device'
One type of content-information I'd appreciate a lot would be about the
function/type of text this is: Is it e.g. a button lable, a menu entry,
a help text, ...
How would that be done, as well with msgctxt using pgettext? Or are there
other ways? In general that would be a bigger effort and would need to
define a few guidelines for that but can be done of course if the translator
community thinks this would help a lot.
Simon,
Developer's comments can be inserted in the code itself and are
extracted by gettext and displayed in the PO file in a manner that
does not disrupt translation.
# TRANS: Developer comment
in the code ends up in PO file as
#. Developer comment
and is displayed prominently.
Live examples of this can be seen in TamTam Suite (as one example)
where we've inserted extensive developer's comments (including wiki
links) describing the instruments tooltips. More specific reference
to lines in git can be given if needed.
cjl
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How to disabled xo security without developers key
Hello, I am deploying more than 30 XO-1 in a village where I don't have Internet facility. I have to update the firmware of all the XO. Currently all XO-1 has q2e41 firmware version, which has to be updated to q2e46. Till q2e41 usually we don't need OK prompt, because it was providing bootfw.zip file. In next versions of q2e4 series they don't provide bootfw.zip file, only .rom firmware.rom file. Without OK prompt we are not able to apply commands to run firmware update, because it needs developers key to unlock or make XO unsecured mode. Can anyone tell me how to get OK prompt without developers key?? -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
olpc-update
Updated XO-1 and XO-1.5 from os4 to os5 without any problems (no space strain on the XO-1). However, os5 does not offer to check/update activities after the first boot (some activities were deleted as a space percussion on the XO-1). Is this the expected behavior? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: How to disabled xo security without developers key
Hello! You can use this: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys#Setting_up_a_collection_stick to recolect all Serial Number and UUID from your 30 XO-1.After, you can get all developer keys at time... And if you don't like it.. You can use the Serial Port on the XO... No? Regards Alan Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:50:17 +0530 Subject: How to disabled xo security without developers key From: ganeshga...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.laptop.org Hello, I am deploying more than 30 XO-1 in a village where I don't have Internet facility. I have to update the firmware of all the XO. Currently all XO-1 has q2e41 firmware version, which has to be updated to q2e46. Till q2e41 usually we don't need OK prompt, because it was providing bootfw.zip file. In next versions of q2e4 series they don't provide bootfw.zip file, only .rom firmware.rom file. Without OK prompt we are not able to apply commands to run firmware update, because it needs developers key to unlock or make XO unsecured mode. Can anyone tell me how to get OK prompt without developers key?? -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
I have gone through a diff between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75 defconfigs, and
updated XO-1.75 defconfig. The goals were
- to syncronize driver support for USB-pluggable devices - anything
supported on XO-1.5 we expect to work on XO-1.75
- to syncronize kernel services and options for consistency --
Lots of changes, fetch and review the diff for more info. Below I
summarized the highlights. Holler if any of these is a problem, I'll
be happy to rework it. My indications of sync refer to syncronizing
to XO-1.5 configuration.
- Enabled RFKILL - we may need to set the hooks in the platform definition (?)
- GALCORE and MMP2_CPU settings enabled -- they are hardcoded to
enabled in the Kconfig anyway, so it's a NOOP right now. This seems to
have been triggered indirectly by running menuconfig.
- Enabled BSD process accounting, POSIX message queues (sync)
- Enabled network and netfilter configuration -- kernel has all you
need for a NAT'ing host, and IPv6 (sync). Lots of scheduling, queueing
options sync'd there.
- PF_KEY/PF_KEY_MIGRATE=m
- BLKDEV enabled, LOOP, CRYPTOLOOP as modules (sync)
- Made CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2* modular (sync)
- Made various USB Ethernet drivers modular, to match XO-1.5 (sync)
- Did not enable CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_OLPC as it seems to be for ALPS.
- Did not sync SERIAL_8250_* nor SERIO_*
- Did not remove PSAUX, though I suspect it's not needed on our SoC.
- Enabled USB_STORAGE_various (sync).
- We have USB_MDC800=y, only on XO-1.75 - do we care? is this Mustek
MDC800 a widely used chipset?
- Changed USB_SERIAL_various to modules -- sync. This includes
_OPTION and _SIERRA_WIRELESS which are used for 3G modems. Some are
enabled only on XO-1.75, perhaps they are widely used chipsets that
could be enabled on 1.5 as well?
- Enabled USB_SISUSBVGA and friends as modules (sync)
- Also enabled FB_UDL for DisplayLink support as I am about to play
with this. Filed #11245 for XO-1 and XO-1.5
- Surprise! We have UWB=y on our XO-1.75 builds -- anyone playing
with this? ;-)
- We have EXT4_DEBUG (on xo-1.75 only) -- filed #11244 so that we
remember to disable it.
- The EXT{2,3,4} situation looked mixed up. XO-1.5 kernel is using
EXT4 for all EXT variants. On XO-1.75 we had the 3 drivers, which
slowed down mounting the root partition. Additionally, EXT4 options on
XO-1.75 did not include POSIX_ACL. Sync'ed things to the (saner?)
config options in XO-1.5.
- Enabled DNOTIFY, QUOTA (and related), FUSE_FS, and AUTOFS4 - sync.
- Did not enable drivers for Joliet and other CD filesystems. I doubt
we care -- we don't seem to have CD-ROM drivers anyway. Why do we have
this on XO-1.5?
- VFAT support is modular now - sync
- We don't have SMB/CIFS - surprised...
- NLS_DEFAULT=utf8 (sync) and made UTF8 built statically. Minor detail but
- Sync'ed crypto cyphers.
cheers,
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Re: How to disabled xo security without developers key
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 21:50 +0530, ganesh gajre wrote: Hello, I am deploying more than 30 XO-1 in a village where I don't have Internet facility. I have to update the firmware of all the XO. Currently all XO-1 has q2e41 firmware version, which has to be updated to q2e46. The last official release for the X0-1 was os860, has q2e45 signed as part of the OS image and will be installed on first boot without flashing via the OK prompt. q2e46 or later is used by the 11.3 testing series but is not signed, once the build goes official the firmware will be signed. Till q2e41 usually we don't need OK prompt, because it was providing bootfw.zip file. In next versions of q2e4 series they don't provide bootfw.zip file, only .rom firmware.rom file. Without OK prompt we are not able to apply commands to run firmware update, because it needs developers key to unlock or make XO unsecured mode. Can anyone tell me how to get OK prompt without developers key?? -- Ganesh (Dragger) Be a FOSSERS, use GNU/Linux Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: - Did not enable drivers for Joliet and other CD filesystems. I doubt we care -- we don't seem to have CD-ROM drivers anyway. Why do we have this on XO-1.5? It's nice to be able to plug in a usb cd/dvd and have it work. Does it effectively work on XO-1 or XO-1.5? It's a candid question -- I don't have any USB-CD... m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:37 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: - Did not enable drivers for Joliet and other CD filesystems. I doubt we care -- we don't seem to have CD-ROM drivers anyway. Why do we have this on XO-1.5? It's nice to be able to plug in a usb cd/dvd and have it work. Does it effectively work on XO-1 or XO-1.5? It's a candid question -- I don't have any USB-CD... I tried awhile ago but not lately, as I don't have that usb cd any longer. I'll see if I can borrow my buddy's to play with. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 14:37 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: - Did not enable drivers for Joliet and other CD filesystems. I doubt we care -- we don't seem to have CD-ROM drivers anyway. Why do we have this on XO-1.5? It's nice to be able to plug in a usb cd/dvd and have it work. Does it effectively work on XO-1 or XO-1.5? It's a candid question -- I don't have any USB-CD... Just plugged my external Sony CD/DVD RW that uses an external power source into my XO 1.5 and it was properly recognized and mounted the CD in it. -Jon ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
martin wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: thanks for doing this. pushed? Now yes, had faild on transient network error. Sorry. - Did not enable CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2_OLPC as it seems to be for ALPS. this means installing an ALPS base on a 1.75 won't work. i think we want it enabled. Riiight, but then that means making sure that the infra works - EC/SP, etc. I know you did a bit of work on making ALPS work on XO-1.5, but the truth is that... it's doesn't work very well at all. well, i believe mitch coded the SP keyboard driver to work with ALPS -- i don't know how well it's been tested. i didn't realize that it doesn't work very well at all on 1.5. i guess it's your call. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On 15 Sep 2011, at 09:44, Daniel Drake wrote: http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os5/ Thanks Peter. It would be neat if someone can test the olpc-update from build 4 (*not* any previous one) to this one, with sudo olpc-update 11.3.0_xo1.75-5 Not going so well here... Going from build 4, fresh boot, into Terminal and then olpc-update. Each time (three so far) I've run it I've returned to find Terminal has died at some point leaving no log or history so I'm assuming it might be an OOM case and terminal is getting killed. I've installed a handful of new activities from ASLO, edited the x config to disable the Copy acceleration, and tried to sudo yum install vim/git/pylint. This last one is interesting – the yum install completes successfully, all the usual output to screen, but vim/git/pylint are all 'command not found' and I can't find them installed anywhere (using sudo find / -name _ ). I've not rebooted the machine yet, any logs folks wants me to preserve, or incantations to try (I have downloaded the os5 image and was planning to do a clean re-flash tomorrow). Regards, --Gary as documented: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0 Thanks, Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: This last one is interesting – the yum install completes successfully all the usual output to screen, but vim/git/pylint are all 'command not found' Actually, what happens is that it fetches the rpm, but refuses to install it because it' s not signed. Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo to say gpgcheck=0 I got confused with the same earlier today installing nc, saw all the familiar yum output, and then it wasn' t there. I hadn't spotted the gpg check error. Cannot comment on olpc-update problems... m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: This last one is interesting – the yum install completes successfully all the usual output to screen, but vim/git/pylint are all 'command not found' Actually, what happens is that it fetches the rpm, but refuses to install it because it' s not signed. Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo to say gpgcheck=0 I got confused with the same earlier today installing nc, saw all the familiar yum output, and then it wasn' t there. I hadn't spotted the gpg check error. If this is a temporary issue could one just use the --nogpgcheck option for these one-off installs and not worry about editing the repos? That way, once all the gpg checking is properly in place one can drop the option and expect it to succeed? Just wondering. Cannot comment on olpc-update problems... m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Techteam] 11.3.0 build 5 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
On 15 Sep 2011, at 22:15, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: This last one is interesting – the yum install completes successfully all the usual output to screen, but vim/git/pylint are all 'command not found' Actually, what happens is that it fetches the rpm, but refuses to install it because it' s not signed. Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/*.repo to say gpgcheck=0 I got confused with the same earlier today installing nc, saw all the familiar yum output, and then it wasn' t there. I hadn't spotted the gpg check error. Oooh yea, I did briefly notice a single line message, but it says absolutely nothing about aborting, preventing, or failing to install the otherwise requested item/s... +1 for security, -10 for the user feedback ;-) --Gary Cannot comment on olpc-update problems... m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Syncronizing defconfig between XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Paul Fox wrote: martin wrote: I know you did a bit of work on making ALPS work on XO-1.5, but the truth is that... it's doesn't work very well at all. i didn't realize that it doesn't work very well at all on 1.5. Martin, How does doesn't work very well translate into trac tickets ? Is it #10571 (a problem with resuming on a 1.5 w. ALPS, which sounds a lot like #10233) ? #10233 has been ignored as low priority for reasons which don't apply on 1.5s... There's #9908 (no keyboard/tp on a 1.5) which hasn't been diagnosed. i guess it's your call. If Martin doesn't want to support ALPS, then we don't need the XO-1 to XO-1.75 conversion kit he's been asking for either, right ? Cheers, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
