customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
The approach I have taken with other releases is to flash the NAND, add 
some activities with a customization stick [1], and then use the 
NAND-blaster to copy the image to all our laptops. When I try the 
customization stick, there is some python exception, but the screen 
powers off almost immediately and I can't read it.

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key

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Re: customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:13:22PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 The approach I have taken with other releases is to flash the NAND, add 
 some activities with a customization stick [1], and then use the 
 NAND-blaster to copy the image to all our laptops. When I try the 
 customization stick, there is some python exception, but the screen 
 powers off almost immediately and I can't read it.
 
 [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key

Speed reading suggests that it is failing at:

mkdir -p /sysroot/home/olpc/.bootanim

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Re: customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:13:22PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 The approach I have taken with other releases is to flash the NAND, add
 some activities with a customization stick [1], and then use the
 NAND-blaster to copy the image to all our laptops. When I try the
 customization stick, there is some python exception, but the screen
 powers off almost immediately and I can't read it.

 [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key

 Speed reading suggests that it is failing at:

 mkdir -p /sysroot/home/olpc/.bootanim

The boot animation had completely changed in 12.1.0 as has a lot of
other components. We moved from a base of Fedora 14 to Fedora 17 so
there's many changes from systemd to gtk3 so it will need a review as
to what needs to be updated.

Peter
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Re: customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com wrote:
 The approach I have taken with other releases is to flash the NAND, add
 some activities with a customization stick [1], and then use the
 NAND-blaster to copy the image to all our laptops. When I try the
 customization stick, there is some python exception, but the screen
 powers off almost immediately and I can't read it.

The .pb file for bootanim customisation won't work any more as we have
changed boot animation:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#Miscellaneous_improvements

Even if you avoid this file it looks like it will still fail, since
the customisation stick chooses user ID 500 for the olpc user, but
this is now 1000.

The customisation stick has been somewhat problematic for a while now,
and starting in 2010 we started to move to the direction where image
customisation should be done by making your own image (which is much
easier than before). Is this an option for you?

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:30:43AM -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
 The customisation stick has been somewhat problematic for a while now,
 and starting in 2010 we started to move to the direction where image
 customisation should be done by making your own image (which is much
 easier than before). Is this an option for you?
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder

Yeah, I agree that is a better approach. Can you add the info for 
12.1.10 to that page?

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Re: customization stick broken in 12.1.10 (21018o0.img)

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Joshua N Pritikin jpriti...@pobox.com wrote:
 Yeah, I agree that is a better approach. Can you add the info for
 12.1.10 to that page?

It will automatically appear when 12.1.0 gets released.

For now you need to use the development version:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder/Development

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[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Contol-Panel packaging

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi All:

I would like to propose a feature for discussion and inclusion in the
0.98 cycle is packaging all control-panel applets as rpms. As this
discussion does not impact the UI and more of a packaging issue I'm an
not creating a Features page. The discussion can take place here on the
mailing-list.

The reasoning is that it should make it easier for downstream users of
sugar to exclude applets that don't apply to their use case without
having to patch them out. For example OLPC removes via their .spec file,
the keyboard and updater applets from their builds and uses their own
version of an updater supplied as an rpm.

Dextrose is using this idea to now to partly split up the what is
available to install at rpm generation time[1]. I have found this useful
from a deployment perspective by being able to exclude applets that are
unwanted or need further development from the final image.

The current code base and workflow would not be changed, except a
revised sugar.spec file would generate more that just the sugar rpm when
run, like how it is done now for sugar-emulator. Deployment level users
of sugar would then need to state which applets to include in their
image at image creation time. This will allow development of applets to
evolve without having to reinstall all of sugar in the field for a
change to an applet.

Any XO specific user tool like About my Computer and Power should
not really be part of sugar but should be available to install on demand
like OLPC's sugar-update-control and olpc-switch-desktop that are added
to OLPC's sugar installation. SoaS might benefit from not shipping all
the applets, omitting the ones that apply to XO hardware.

This change might help development of new features in the control-panel
area that later be incorporated into sugar once proven to work.

Feedback and comments welcome,

Jerry

1.http://git.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/mainline/blobs/bleeding-edge/rpms/sugar/sugar.spec


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Re: Fwd: [PATCH]Add --cacheonly to livecd-create (and to olpc-os-builder)

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 15:31 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
  after the first pass of OOB, so why bother with the upstream patches.
 
 Yum has good support for it already. Avoiding upstream would require
 torturing yum first to populate the local cache, _then_ transposing
 the local cache for the external repo. Possible, messy.
 

No transportation needed just link /packages in an offline repo pointing
to /packages in OOB's yum cache directory for that repo.

 I struggled a tad with how ImgCreate drives yum libs vs how yum itself
 does it, but only a couple of hours, now it is solved, and working,
 and I already had a positive email from upstream. Looks like it'll
 come as a F17 update :-)
 

That is kind of interesting as I'm on liv...@lists.fedoraproject.org. I
have not had any email from that list since July 9 nor have the
archives[1]. Where did that email end up going?

 The code in OOB is finished, I'm about to post a branch for review.
 _All_ modules support offline after an initial online run.
 

On the OOB front, where is simplecache being created?

Jerry

1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/livecd/

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Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread Sameer Verma
www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/

The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?

cheers,
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Re: Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread John Watlington

On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:

 www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/
 
 The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
 on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?

It's been shipping for some time now.
I don't know where they got that information.

And the correct name for the new generation will probably be XO-4 and
XO-4 Touch.

Cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:15:50PM -0400, John Watlington wrote:
 
 On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
 
  www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/
  
  The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
  on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?
 
 It's been shipping for some time now.
 I don't know where they got that information.
 
 And the correct name for the new generation will probably be XO-4 and
 XO-4 Touch.
 
 Cheers,
 wad

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Re: Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:

 www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/

 The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
 on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?

 It's been shipping for some time now.
 I don't know where they got that information.


Thanks. Do you have a list of projects that are running on the 1.75?

Sameer

 And the correct name for the new generation will probably be XO-4 and
 XO-4 Touch.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a cool demo of the Neonode multitouch frame:

 http://www.slashgear.com/neonode-3d-touch-headed-to-tablets-and-phones-hands-on-28215933/

 Not only multi-touch, but also entry direction and tilt. For a dollar!

 Seems like this would be great as a retrofit kit.

+1 on the retrofit kit. I was thinking of the same thing!

cheers,
Sameer

 Mike

 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:

 www.engadget.com/2012/07/26/olpc-xo-touch-1-75-to-use-neonode-tech/

 The post says as yet unreleased XO 1.75. What's the official status
 on the 1.75? Still as yet unreleased?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-26 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 08:38:00PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Mike Lee curious...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here's a cool demo of the Neonode multitouch frame:
 
  http://www.slashgear.com/neonode-3d-touch-headed-to-tablets-and-phones-hands-on-28215933/
 
  Not only multi-touch, but also entry direction and tilt. For a dollar!
 
  Seems like this would be great as a retrofit kit.
 
 +1 on the retrofit kit. I was thinking of the same thing!
 
it might involve adding something near the LCD but then where to 'plug in it'?

There's the 3rd USB port, the serial interface or some unspecified GPIO on the
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sugar-gnomekeyring.patch

2012-07-26 Thread Jerry Vonau
Hi All:

Just looking at the current 0.96-3 src.rpm for sugar and wondering if
sugar-gnomekeyring.patch should be somewhere else other than in the
sugar package. This is a one time configuration that the olpc-utils[1]
package currently handles. Perhaps olpc-utils would be a better place
for this piece of code.

Jerry

1.http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-utils/tree/usr/sbin/olpc-configure?id=b7197bc1e9f1a38828f8672791ee4cfefecb135e

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