Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread James Cameron
So I've woken up.

The moved startup sound happened in Q4D26 [1] [2] and was intended
not to be noticed, since it should be on the filesystem after an
upgrade.  I'm kind of glad somebody noticed.  ;-) It shows other
combinations are being tested.

You can fix the problem on your XO-1.75 with 13.1.0 and Q4D28 by
downgrading to a version before Q4D26, copying the startup
sound, and then upgrading to Q4D28:

ok copy rom:splash int:\boot\jingle.wav

You can also replace the startup sound with something else.  But some
sample rates, sample formats, or channel counts are invalid ... it is
best to use the existing sound as a basis for obtaining these.  The
sound should not be unduly long.

There are reasons why people upgrade to newer firmware, but some care
is needed.  Only yesterday I found sound was broken on an XO-1.75 with
12.1.0, because I had upgraded the firmware.  Daniel pointed out this
is #12637.  Upgrading the kernel to the latest 13.2.0 kernel fixed it.
Another example of mixing versions on purpose.

References:

1.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q4d26
2.  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12128

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Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Fox
juan wrote:
 > Just downgraded do Q4D20 and the original sound has been restored :)
 > 
 > I had no idea that certain OS versions had to be matched to certain 
 > Firmware versions...
 > I always tried to keep up with the latest on my test machines.

we try very hard to maintain both forward and backward compatibility,
but of course that's not always possible.  i think the release notes
usually cover any major issues.

in this case, we needed to reclaim space in flash for the firmware, so
the startup jingle file was moved to the root filesystem.  the effect
is aesthetic only, but still surprising.

paul

 > 
 >   - Juan
 > 
 > On 06/20/2013 11:41 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
 > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Juan Cubillo  
 > > wrote:
 > >> That might be an option, but not in my case. Both XOs have Build 13.0.1 
 > >> and
 > >> Firmware Q4D28.
 > >>
 > >> I'll wait for James to wake up :)
 > > In the mean time maybe you can explain why changing firmware version
 > > and/or OS version is not an option. It might help us give good advice.
 > >
 > > Thanks
 > > Daniel
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Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Juan Cubillo

Just downgraded do Q4D20 and the original sound has been restored :)

I had no idea that certain OS versions had to be matched to certain 
Firmware versions...

I always tried to keep up with the latest on my test machines.

 - Juan

On 06/20/2013 11:41 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Juan Cubillo  wrote:

That might be an option, but not in my case. Both XOs have Build 13.0.1 and
Firmware Q4D28.

I'll wait for James to wake up :)

In the mean time maybe you can explain why changing firmware version
and/or OS version is not an option. It might help us give good advice.

Thanks
Daniel


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Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Juan Cubillo  wrote:
> That might be an option, but not in my case. Both XOs have Build 13.0.1 and
> Firmware Q4D28.
>
> I'll wait for James to wake up :)

In the mean time maybe you can explain why changing firmware version
and/or OS version is not an option. It might help us give good advice.

Thanks
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Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Juan Cubillo
That might be an option, but not in my case. Both XOs have Build 13.0.1 
and Firmware Q4D28.


I'll wait for James to wake up :)

 - Juan

On 06/20/2013 09:45 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Juan Cubillo  wrote:

Hello,

Quick question>  I have two 1.75XO that make a "beep beep" sound while
booting instead of the usual XO booting sound. Why is this so? Can this be
changed?

This likely means that you are running a new firmware on an old OS
release. Downgrading the firmware to the version that was intended for
that release should restore the bootup sound. (or, alternatively,
upgrade the OS to match the firmware)

I imagine James will provide a full explanation when he wakes up later on :)

If you are mixing versions on purpose, do note
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12637

Daniel


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Re: [Server-devel] Server Hardware.

2013-06-20 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Karanbir Singh  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 06/20/2013 04:21 PM, David Farning wrote:
>> After working with several deployments, talking to several of you
>> personally, and reviewing the information on the lists I have a set a
>> couple of priorities:
>
> This might be interesting to everyone: we are starting to get a
> CentOS-ARM effort off the ground; no promises on when we might and if we
> might be able to deliver the distro ( CentOS-6 with a custom kernel at
> this point ), but we are optimistic.
>
> Would this help open up more options ? There are some very interesting
> numbers I've seen from the ARM silicon vendors - but there are a few
> miles to go before they really hit 'off the shelf'.

I've been watching fedora vs CentOS as a platform pretty closely. You
hit the key issue that I have come across. Most of the hardware that
looks suitable is pretty new. The manufactures are scurrying to get
the boards working with Fedora.

The second issue is compatibility with XOs as Schools Server. If we go
with CentOS we need to maintain a separate branch from the OLPC-OS
based branch.

Would you care to revisit this in Sept when we start planning for XSCE
0.5? We can revisit this with more information... and hopefully CentOS
on Arm will have progressed nicely!

> Regards
>
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Re: Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Juan Cubillo  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Quick question>  I have two 1.75XO that make a "beep beep" sound while
> booting instead of the usual XO booting sound. Why is this so? Can this be
> changed?

This likely means that you are running a new firmware on an old OS
release. Downgrading the firmware to the version that was intended for
that release should restore the bootup sound. (or, alternatively,
upgrade the OS to match the firmware)

I imagine James will provide a full explanation when he wakes up later on :)

If you are mixing versions on purpose, do note
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12637

Daniel
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Re: [Server-devel] Server Hardware.

2013-06-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

On 06/20/2013 04:21 PM, David Farning wrote:
> After working with several deployments, talking to several of you
> personally, and reviewing the information on the lists I have a set a
> couple of priorities:

This might be interesting to everyone: we are starting to get a
CentOS-ARM effort off the ground; no promises on when we might and if we
might be able to deliver the distro ( CentOS-6 with a custom kernel at
this point ), but we are optimistic.

Would this help open up more options ? There are some very interesting
numbers I've seen from the ARM silicon vendors - but there are a few
miles to go before they really hit 'off the shelf'.

Regards

- KB
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Different boot sound on XO1.75

2013-06-20 Thread Juan Cubillo

Hello,

Quick question>  I have two 1.75XO that make a "beep beep" sound while 
booting instead of the usual XO booting sound. Why is this so? Can this 
be changed?


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