Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new for both users and developers, see the release notes http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes Sources: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and testing! These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but will land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that soon so we can ship it in SoaS 10. The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here: x86 (32 and 64 bit) http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/ ARM http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/ Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity log? On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new for both users and developers, see the release notes http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes Sources: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and testing! These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but will land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that soon so we can ship it in SoaS 10. The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here: x86 (32 and 64 bit) http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/ ARM http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/ Peter -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity
log?
It unfortunately only contains a single line:
Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x2e13540,
dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6ceded9023243ea4ee519
', variant_level=1))
On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new for
both
users and developers, see the release notes
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes
Sources:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz
Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and testing!
These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the
Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but will
land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider
testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to
run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that soon
so we can ship it in SoaS 10.
The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here:
x86 (32 and 64 bit)
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/
ARM http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could launch
it with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having
installed debug packages.
On 4 November 2013 21:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity
log?
It unfortunately only contains a single line:
Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x2e13540,
dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6ceded9023243ea4ee519
', variant_level=1))
On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new
for
both
users and developers, see the release notes
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes
Sources:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz
Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and
testing!
These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the
Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but will
land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider
testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to
run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that soon
so we can ship it in SoaS 10.
The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here:
x86 (32 and 64 bit)
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/
ARM
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could launch it
with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having
installed debug packages.
2Gb of debuginfo later I have the following:
http://paste.fedoraproject.org/51575/38360107/
Thanks,
Peter
On 4 November 2013 21:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity
log?
It unfortunately only contains a single line:
Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x2e13540,
dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6ceded9023243ea4ee519
', variant_level=1))
On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new
for
both
users and developers, see the release notes
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes
Sources:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz
Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and
testing!
These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the
Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but will
land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider
testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to
run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that soon
so we can ship it in SoaS 10.
The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here:
x86 (32 and 64 bit)
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/
ARM
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then
I'll open a bug + patch.
On 4 November 2013 22:40, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could
launch it
with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having
installed debug packages.
2Gb of debuginfo later I have the following:
http://paste.fedoraproject.org/51575/38360107/
Thanks,
Peter
On 4 November 2013 21:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the
activity
log?
It unfortunately only contains a single line:
Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x2e13540,
dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6ceded9023243ea4ee519
', variant_level=1))
On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new
for
both
users and developers, see the release notes
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes
Sources:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz
Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and
testing!
These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in the
Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but
will
land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some wider
testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing to
run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that
soon
so we can ship it in SoaS 10.
The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here:
x86 (32 and 64 bit)
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/
ARM
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/
Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll
open a bug + patch.
Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it.
Peter
On 4 November 2013 22:40, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could
launch it
with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having
installed debug packages.
2Gb of debuginfo later I have the following:
http://paste.fedoraproject.org/51575/38360107/
Thanks,
Peter
On 4 November 2013 21:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the
activity
log?
It unfortunately only contains a single line:
Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x2e13540,
dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6ceded9023243ea4ee519
', variant_level=1))
On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez
dwnarv...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello,
we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is
new
for
both
users and developers, see the release notes
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes
Sources:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-runner/sugar-runner-0.100.0.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.100.1.tar.xz
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.100.0.tar.xz
Thanks to everyone that contributed with code, translations and
testing!
These are now in updates-testing in Fedora 20. They're not yet in
the
Fedora 20 stable channel because they're locked down for Beta but
will
land in stable shortly after Beta. It would be good to get some
wider
testing and feedback. The big issue at the moment is Write failing
to
run and I would love some assistance in debugging and fixing that
soon
so we can ship it in SoaS 10.
The latest Beta RC2 images can be found here:
x86 (32 and 64 bit)
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Live/
ARM
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Beta-RC2/Images/armhfp/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Here it is http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
I poked my abiword friends, expect the commit shortly. cjl On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Here it is http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
On 5 November 2013 00:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Here it is http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 I suspect this was worked around in OLPC rpms btw http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13420#c4 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Server-devel] Reminder: XSCE IRC scrum tomorrow (5th November), 1600 UTC / 1200 EDT on #schoolserver/irc.freenode.net
Hi fellow server-hackers! We will be having our eighth IRC scrum meeting tomorrow 5th November on 1600 UTC / 1200 EDT at the #schoolserver channel (irc.freenode.net). The meeting will be logged by a supybot instance. Please start filling in your points to discuss in the rolling agenda document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o6QtzLb6e58YKWqMf_junux2XyBRLFm31un8YLcYslg/edit Logs for the last meeting held on 29th October are here: https://sugardextrose.org/issues/4826 Cheers, Anish ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
:) On 5 November 2013 00:23, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: I poked my abiword friends, expect the commit shortly. cjl On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Here it is http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)
Hmm, I think we used Abi.init_noargs() in some way. Sorry, was long time ago, I can't remember ... Thanks Daniel Gonzalo On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 November 2013 00:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Here it is http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13572 I suspect this was worked around in OLPC rpms btw http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13420#c4 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
different perspectives
Dear Community, As I was listening to the interviews of some of the OLPC SF Summit attendees, I was amazed at the richness of diversity in perspectives. In spite of being a part of this community since July 2007, and trying to keep up with all that is OLPC and Sugar, these interviews threw me off a bit. The videos are uploading as I write this. They'll be available at https://www.youtube.com/user/olpcsf/videos soon. Bill Stelzer, who usually interviews and runs the camera asks people a handful of questions. So, here's a little community exercise. Why not ask you all the same? 1) What brought you into the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? 2) What keeps you going in the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? 3) What are the challenges you face in the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? 4) What would you change/do differently so OLPC and/or Sugar project(s) could do better? Reply-all in your answers. cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devil is in the details
On 11/04/2013 10:49 PM, devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Message: 7 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 19:50:52 -0800 From: Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu To: Devel's in the Detailsdevel@lists.laptop.org, Sugar-dev Develsugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: different perspectives Message-ID: cafogk8fvvwygkephx5ee5iqd5+45drvr8gf68agg4bzkti3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Community, As I was listening to the interviews of some of the OLPC SF Summit attendees, I was amazed at the richness of diversity in perspectives. In spite of being a part of this community since July 2007, and trying to keep up with all that is OLPC and Sugar, these interviews threw me off a bit. The videos are uploading as I write this. They'll be available at https://www.youtube.com/user/olpcsf/videos soon. Bill Stelzer, who usually interviews and runs the camera asks people a handful of questions. So, here's a little community exercise. Why not ask you all the same? 1) What brought you into the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? I arrived back in the US after a visit to South Africa witnessing a computer lab in a primary school where children had access to a computer for 30min per week. At this time OLPC initiated G1G1. I was convinced that OLPC meant more than 30min per week and this initiative should be supported. As a retired computer professional, my question was: after the kids get a laptop, what happens next? I am not sure I yet have a good answer to that question. 2) What keeps you going in the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? Curiosity and the challenge of using my computer skills and experience to make something good happen. 3) What are the challenges you face in the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? In most new applications of computers, the 'client' knows what he wants. Normally it is to do what I am doing now, but better, faster and at a lower cost. In this case computers are provided to deployment sites without the site having any input on the process. This makes it hard for a developer to understand the requirements (sites say give me some laptops and that is enough). 4) What would you change/do differently so OLPC and/or Sugar project(s) could do better? Have the community really buy-in to 'it is an educational project'. Distinguish between enterprise-level deployments (Uruguay, Peru, Paraguay, Rwanda, Australia) and deployments which need community support. Eliminate the assumption that deployments can support each laptop (100-400+) meaningfully surfing the internet (cf. Browse Activity portal page). Recognize that it is what is on the screen for the child that matters, not whether it is Sugar or Android or Python or HTML5 or an XO or a tablet or a smartphone. Tony Reply-all in your answers. cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
