Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
Hi Walter We don't have plans to use stickers at the moment. The stickers won't last long in the hands of kids. But we need to have some mechanism to input Nepali characters. For now we can give them a printout of the keyboard layout. Regards, Basanta On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
What about a virtual touch keyboard layout? Just wondering? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi Walter We don't have plans to use stickers at the moment. The stickers won't last long in the hands of kids. But we need to have some mechanism to input Nepali characters. For now we can give them a printout of the keyboard layout. Regards, Basanta On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] different perspectives
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:56 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.comwrote: The highest rate of progress happens when the parties focus on getting ahead of the other guys rather then when they focus on holding others back. Progress tends to stop when one party gets so far ahead that it is not worth it for others to compete. I don't disagree, but I would qualify that: The highest rate of progress happens when the parties focus on getting ahead of the other guys by changing the game. This is why I maintain that GNU/Linux distros considering each other as competitors is pointless at the end of the day when 92% or so of the desktop/laptop market is running MS Windows. Sean ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard
I don't know if this helps, but it's what I use for Devanagari. Of course, it's aimed at people familiar with Roman keyboards. http://www.ubcsanskrit.ca/keyboards.html Message: 3 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 07:13:01 -0500 From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com To: Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4 Message-ID: cadf7c8tm4mn3daqpydxrh9g9sj6ly7mqajtzw1t7ke3w9mr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard
I think issue is enabling the switching back and forth. We have a dedicated key on the membrane keyboards, but not the 'standard' keyboards. Maybe we make it an altgr key of some sort... -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com wrote: I don't know if this helps, but it's what I use for Devanagari. Of course, it's aimed at people familiar with Roman keyboards. http://www.ubcsanskrit.ca/keyboards.html Message: 3 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 07:13:01 -0500 From: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com To: Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4 Message-ID: cadf7c8tm4mn3daqpydxrh9g9sj6ly7mqajtzw1t7ke3w9mr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:24, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: What about a virtual touch keyboard layout? Just wondering? FWIW: I'm pretty sure (check [1] [2]) that Nepali layouts were not part of the Maliit set I was asked to work on for the XO-4 touch keyboard layouts. It's been over a year ago, and a lot of things were going on, so my memory is a little rusty. If the XO-4's in question do have the touch screen hardware support, creating a layout file is not too difficult (as long as the required fonts glyphs are already installed). That is a beauty of touch screen keyboards, they may not be as good as tactile keyboards, but you can have almost any language layout you want with no hardware changes. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Garycmartin/Maliit_Layouts [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User_talk:Garycmartin/Maliit#Currently_available_language_layouts Regards, --Gary On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi Walter We don't have plans to use stickers at the moment. The stickers won't last long in the hands of kids. But we need to have some mechanism to input Nepali characters. For now we can give them a printout of the keyboard layout. Regards, Basanta On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: A bit tricky because we don't have that key anymore (but we could come up with some other key combination to enable it). Also, are you planning to use stickers or some other way to add the proper glyths to the keyboard? Happy to explore this with you further. regards. -walter On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Hi, I am writing this mail seeking a clue on where to start looking to enable Nepali input in XO4. For XO-1 we had nepali keyboard and there was a button just below the enter button which would switch input between English and Nepali. And that was very convenient. But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. I can see that the key maping file for nepali is already there under /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ Thank you . -- Basanta Shrestha OLE Nepal ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
I believe Basanta said that they were the hard click keyboards On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. Are these keyboards hard/clicky/high-school style, or soft/membrane? Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. Are these keyboards hard/clicky/high-school style, or soft/membrane? Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] different perspectives
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:56 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: The highest rate of progress happens when the parties focus on getting ahead of the other guys rather then when they focus on holding others back. Progress tends to stop when one party gets so far ahead that it is not worth it for others to compete. I don't disagree, but I would qualify that: The highest rate of progress happens when the parties focus on getting ahead of the other guys by changing the game. This is why I maintain that GNU/Linux distros considering each other as competitors is pointless at the end of the day when 92% or so of the desktop/laptop market is running MS Windows. Agreed. That is one of the reasons Google is maintaining such a tight hold on Android. They are trying to maintain the critical mass for the OS by preventing fragmentation. The downside becomes the somewhat extreme, by free software standards, they are using to maintain control of the project. Sean -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
If these are the SKU 311 units the Manufacturing Data on the wiki implies they have membrane keyboards. If so I don't see any reason using the keyboard manufacturing tags used for previous Nepali manufacturing runs (or used testing out the settings in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard manually) shouldn't work. The %/X key will just become the language key again. But if no virtual keyboard exists for Nepali you will not have touchscreen/virtual keyboard access to that language. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I believe Basanta said that they were the hard click keyboards On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. Are these keyboards hard/clicky/high-school style, or soft/membrane? Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
They are hard/clicky ones. On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: But for XO-4 we will just be getting ones with English layout. I was wondering how we can enable nepali keyboard input on it. Are these keyboards hard/clicky/high-school style, or soft/membrane? Daniel -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Server-devel] Setting up a USB drive for the XSCE Activity Update service
How to do an activity bundle came up on #schoolserver today. I knew I had written it up, but forgot that I only sent it to xsce-devel at the time. This is something that should be on server-devel. And probably needs a wiki entry. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:32 AM Subject: Setting up a USB drive for the XSCE Activity Update service I have never tested or even looked at this before, but today on the call, George made sure I saw this link which has all the details regarding the Activity Update service for the XSCE: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/xs-activity-server/tree/README But if you're sitting there with a USB drive, some activities you'd like to include, you've got an XSCE, and you want some simple instructions, here's a digest. Unfortunately I'm going to assume you're on a Linux box, apologies to the Windows people. First, insert your USB drive into your computer (I used my regular FAT32 formatted drive that I also use for flashing XOs) and create a directory named xs-activity-server Navigate into the xs-activity-server dir and download some activities. This isn't necessary, but it's quite nice. Write a blurb for the activity that will show up on the entry for the activity in http://schoolserver/activities First, get the bundle_id for the Activity. In Linux, it's simply: zipgrep bundle_id activityname.xo It should return something like: JAMediaTube.activity/activity/activity.info:bundle_id = org.laptop.JAMediaTube You want the bit at the end. Now, create an .info file in the xs-activity-server dir. It doesn't matter what it's named, just do activities.info or something. For every activity you would like to write a blurb for, put an entry for that in the activities.info file. For example: [org.laptop.JAMediaTube] description = Watch YouTube! It's really fun! [org.laptop.FakeActivity] description = This is a placeholder for documentation purposes Notice the bundle_id value we grepped for earlier? That's in brackets in the .info file with the description directly underneath. You've got your .xo files, set up your activities.info file, it's all on a USB drive in a dir named xs-activity-server, and now that you've got all the ingredients, the last order of business is to create a manifest for the XSCE to read. While in the xs-activity-server dir on your USB drive, run this command: sha1sum *.xo *.info manifest.sha1 Eject the USB drive and plug it into the XSCE. And then magic happens! The activities you put on the USB drive in the xs-activity-server dir will just automagically show up on http://schoolserver/activities with the blurbs you wrote in the activities.info file. I don't know how the USB drive gets ejected by novice users from the XSCE. Which could be a concern? At any rate, this probably needs a wiki entry. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
