Re: keyboarding as a requirement

2013-11-11 Thread Jerry
For accessibility and disability rights, my guess is a more generic mastery of 
the input device would be better,  as some will have to point n peck ( 
anoteable wheelchair physics genius comes to mind, but not his name, as does 
Richard Feynman though he probably just modified the electrical signals 
directly with his mind, sniffle)

Alas some of the rest of us will be more productive with higher WPM baud type 
rate

---
Please excuse the typing, very small keyboard...


 On Nov 10, 2013, at 14:04, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 
 This was on NPR, here in San Francisco.
 
 http://www.californiareport.org/archive/R201311081630/c
 
 While I don't buy into all of the Common Core mumbo jumbo in the US
 (my kid has to go through this, so we are dealing with it as parents),
 the importance of keyboards is interesting. They didn't point out to
 onscreen vs tactile, but the importance of tactile keyboards for
 children is an important consideration.
 
 Maybe keyboarding will go away altogether once we can speak to our
 computers like Captain Picard does for his Tea, Earl Grey, hot, but
 we are not there yet.
 
 cheers,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
 reu...@laptop.org or myself.  I must know the SKU number.

In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we
are discussing, instead of changing manufacturing data I would
recommend doing it via olpc-os-builder, configuration for [base], see
http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/modules/base/README#n46

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Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-11 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:38 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
  If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
  reu...@laptop.org or myself.  I must know the SKU number.
 
 In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we
 are discussing, instead of changing manufacturing data I would
 recommend doing it via olpc-os-builder, configuration for [base], see
 http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/modules/base/README#n46
 

Or use TinyCore's xo-custom plugin to make the customizations to an
existing image on an unlocked XO.

http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/mktinycorexo/HOWTO.xo-custom

Jerry

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Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-11 Thread Basanta Shrestha
I made the changes but how do we set the key combination to invoke the
nepali layout. We need to have english as default and then nepali as and
when required.
-Basanta



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:03 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:08:18AM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
  But I am still wondering how we could alter/change the stored data
  to our preference or if we can do it ourselves. Please suggest.

 At the firmware ok prompt [1], you may change the tag values [2], for
 example;

 ok tags(
 ok delete-tag KL
 ok add-tag KL np
 ok delete-tag KV
 ok add-tag KV olpc2
 ok )tags

 The )tags command will force a reboot.

 If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
 reu...@laptop.org or myself.  I must know the SKU number.

 References:

 1.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok
 2.
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_Data_Specification#Defined_Tags

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Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-11 Thread Basanta Shrestha
D


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
  If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
  reu...@laptop.org or myself.  I must know the SKU number.

 In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we
 are discussing, instead of changing manufacturing data I would
 recommend doing it via olpc-os-builder, configuration for [base], see

 http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/modules/base/README#n46


Doing it via olpc-os-builder would be easier especially when we be having
more than 200 laptops to work on. This way we won't have to deal with each
and every laptop. So the lines I would have to add would be following :

[base]
default_language=us

default_kbd_model=us
default_kbd_layout=us
default_kbd_variant=np


But where do we set the key combination to switch between default and
nepali. I would like to assign alt+space or alt+shift as combination.

Note: We need to set default layout to english. Nepali input is only
required for few activities in Epaath and for typing document in Nepali.

-basanta
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Few sugar activities crashes

2013-11-11 Thread Basanta Shrestha
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

 You should check where are you getting the list of activities and versions.

 In the file  olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini you have a section:

 [sugar_activity_group]
 url=http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1


The activities that get installed doesn't match the version shown on above
link. I wonder why.



 this url points to a page with the activities and versions to download.

 If you want try, I am working with a cloned repository
 https://github.com/godiard/olpc-os-builder/tree/v7.0
 with the last version of sugar, many activities updates,
 and a few changes implemented for the Australia deployment.

 Gonzalo


Yes I am giving it a try.



 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Basanta Shrestha
 basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
  HI,
  On my 13.2.0 build, few activities like peppy, write, terminal doesn't
 work.
 
  When I uninstall the default version of terminal ( version 41) and
 install
  terminal-40.xo, it works.  But when I try to generate image by putting
  version 40 under
 /usr/share/doc/olpc-os-builder-7.0.0/examples/activities/
  it doesn't install.
 
  I always use olpc-os-builder --cache-only olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini. I was
  wondering will removing --cache-only in the above command will look for
 new
  terminal version and solve the issue?
 
  Or is there a way to exclude installing some sugar activities through
  olpc-os.13.2.0.xo4.ini file ? so that I can test and install the ones
 that
  works?
 
  Please suggest.
 
  Regards,
  Basanta Shrestha
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Few sugar activities crashes

2013-11-11 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:25:22AM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
  You should check where are you getting the list of activities and
  versions.
  In the file  olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini you have a section:
 
[sugar_activity_group]
url=http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1

 The activities that get installed doesn't match the version shown on
 above link. I wonder why.

Cache between you and our web server?
Try this instead:

url=http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Activities/G1G1

(I have not tried this.)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-11 Thread Basanta Shrestha
The laptops(XO-4) have arrived but it turns out the keyboard is the other
one the rubber one (Improved Membrane Keyboard ?).
-Basanta


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Basanta Shrestha 
basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:

 D


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:23 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
  If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact
  reu...@laptop.org or myself.  I must know the SKU number.

 In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we
 are discussing, instead of changing manufacturing data I would
 recommend doing it via olpc-os-builder, configuration for [base], see

 http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/modules/base/README#n46


 Doing it via olpc-os-builder would be easier especially when we be having
 more than 200 laptops to work on. This way we won't have to deal with each
 and every laptop. So the lines I would have to add would be following :

 [base]
 default_language=us

 default_kbd_model=us
 default_kbd_layout=us
 default_kbd_variant=np


 But where do we set the key combination to switch between default and
 nepali. I would like to assign alt+space or alt+shift as combination.

 Note: We need to set default layout to english. Nepali input is only
 required for few activities in Epaath and for typing document in Nepali.

 -basanta





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Re: [Sugar-devel] Few sugar activities crashes

2013-11-11 Thread Basanta Shrestha
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

 You should check where are you getting the list of activities and versions.

 In the file  olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini you have a section:

 [sugar_activity_group]
 url=http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1

 this url points to a page with the activities and versions to download.

 If you want try, I am working with a cloned repository
 https://github.com/godiard/olpc-os-builder/tree/v7.0
 with the last version of sugar, many activities updates,
 and a few changes implemented for the Australia deployment.

 Abacus-53.xo is breaking.

 Gonzalo


 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Basanta Shrestha
 basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote:
  HI,
  On my 13.2.0 build, few activities like peppy, write, terminal doesn't
 work.
 
  When I uninstall the default version of terminal ( version 41) and
 install
  terminal-40.xo, it works.  But when I try to generate image by putting
  version 40 under
 /usr/share/doc/olpc-os-builder-7.0.0/examples/activities/
  it doesn't install.
 
  I always use olpc-os-builder --cache-only olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini. I was
  wondering will removing --cache-only in the above command will look for
 new
  terminal version and solve the issue?
 
  Or is there a way to exclude installing some sugar activities through
  olpc-os.13.2.0.xo4.ini file ? so that I can test and install the ones
 that
  works?
 
  Please suggest.
 
  Regards,
  Basanta Shrestha
 
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[Server-devel] xsce feature propossal

2013-11-11 Thread Santiago Rodríguez
Hi

I just created a new feature page for adding an audience response system to
xsce:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/Features/Audience_response_system

The software I'm working with is this one, and has a gplv3 license:
http://ripple-core.uoregon.edu/


Ask at #schoolserver irc channel for a demo url.

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[Server-devel] Listing subpages on the feature page

2013-11-11 Thread Anish Mangal
Hi,

Think there's a minor issue with the page here:

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Community_Edition/feature

Although the table looks very nice, it has to be manually edited. Before
there was a subpage listing, which listed all subpages automatically. Think
that should still exist, but the table can be the main source of reference.

Or

we should have a clearly defined process saying anyone proposing a feature
add themselves to the table :-)

Best,
Anish
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