Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close
Hi Tim, I'd first see if you can build an image with a stock configuration before you introduce any changes. I'd create a yum repo containing the rpm on the building box, next introduce that yum repo into olpc-os-builder with an entry in the [repos] section of the .ini file. ie: custom_repo_1=1,xo1-fw,file:full/path/to/repo/ After your changes run OOB and check the output/packages.txt to see which version was installed. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, jvo...@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 12:12:48 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close given the potential for error, I re-downloaded the q2f199, and without changing name, copied it up to our boot directory. Then when I tar-ed it all up, downloaded, the tar, expanded, I discovered that the presence of the bootfw.zip in the boot directory prevented the 4button load (finding the signed OS img using fs.zip or fs0.zip) from working. The observation was that It didn't find the image after 4 button startup. Then moved /boot/bootfw.zip to /boot/bootfw.zip.gh, and the img was loaded. I went part way down the road of trying to bundle q2f19 into 21021o0.img, but stopped because I hoped the approach you tried would work. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Updating_the_XO#Firmware says the os image includes firmware. so I installed olpc-os-builder and had a look at olpc-os-12.1.0-xo1.ini, but I don’t see how to rebuild with the later firmware. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close
Hi all: - Original Message - From: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com To: Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Cc: Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 12:01:35 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org wrote: Updates on my 4 suggestions from midnight 10hrs ago--forgive me for capitalizing names, so we can all focus on getting the very best OS into Sora's hands for Haiti during this home stretch Before Midnight EST Tonight: 1) SOLVED: GEORGE, please add WikipediaFR 36 which works great, just tested it this morning by launching it from the Journal view of an inserted USB stick! http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4540 Tim said in a previous email that he had done this. I verified. Will wait to generate tar.gz until other issues are resolved. 2a) GEORGE, In response to Tim's earlier mail, I myself don't yet see Same-Named http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2f19/bootfw.zip within http://xsce.activitycentral.com/downloads/HaitiOS-0.6/boot/ . It's vital that it be Same-Named (no 0,1,2 or 4 suffx) in the USB stick /boot to allow manual upgrade of firmware, no matter what legacy firmware exists on each random XO-1, as described here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_firmware#Recipe given the potential for error, I re-downloaded the q2f199, and without changing name, copied it up to our boot directory. Then when I tar-ed it all up, downloaded, the tar, expanded, I discovered that the presence of the bootfw.zip in the boot directory prevented the 4button load (finding the signed OS img using fs.zip or fs0.zip) from working. The observation was that It didn't find the image after 4 button startup. Then moved /boot/bootfw.zip to /boot/ bootfw.zip.gh , and the img was loaded. That suggests that the firmware is not signed. Perhaps ask James if that file is truly signed. What if you use the firmware found in the latest 13.2.0-13 image? Have a look at mktinycore[1], if your using the latest version from git the firmware is being retrieved from what is the official upgrade rsync repo. What if you copy TC's bootfw0.zip to bootfw.zip that should be the latest version retrieved if your using a current snapshot. Jerry 1. http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/mktinycorexo/mktinycorexo 2b) GEORGE/TIM. Additionally, forced upgrade to http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2f19/bootfw.zip would be truly lovely if we can force the copy of this file to the XO-1's /versions/boot/current/boot/ by hook or by crook during the 1st/2nd bootup after reflashing, if for whatever reason Jerry's TC tricks do not permit this as he'd hoped. 3) GEORGE/ SORA should tell us which Activities to relegate to List View in addition to Portfolio, Log, Terminal. By default let's have all Activities on the ring/spiral available for exploration, even if the ~50 activities gets a bit crowded, let's give it a shot. Thanks Sora for manually Starring most all activities on your XO-1 business hours today (during your Dulles-MIA flight?) so George has marching orders by Dinnertime Latest Please. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, that my first attempt to star all the activities using the /usr/share/sugar/data/activities.default apparently did not work. I'll check it out later today. 4) TIM/GEORGE. Artistic kids adore TuxPaint we need, as soon as we find a working rpm better than http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=tuxpaint and then layer on http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/TuxPaint-6.2.xo or perhaps more likely http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/activities/TuxPaint-6.2.xo ? If George/Tim/Curt can any traction at all from Jerry's suggestions here (I have not!) it'd be beautiful: http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f17-i686/tree/RPMS/t http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f17-i686/tree/RPMS/t/tuxpaint-0.9.21-8.fc17.i686.rpm http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f17-i686/commit/RPMS/t/tuxpaint-0.9.21-8.fc17.i686.rpm Also will play with this later today. I'm going to do a 2 hour bike ride during the warmth of the day. -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close
http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/local.13.2.0-xo1/tree/RPMS Use the 'plain' link on the right to save the rpm. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 3:43:11 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close but is the firmware an rpm? I assumed it wasn't. Tim -Original Message- From: Jerry Vonau Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:12 PM To: Tim Moody Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro ; Curt Thompson ; Developers List ; George Hunt ; Adam Holt Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close Hi Tim, I'd first see if you can build an image with a stock configuration before you introduce any changes. I'd create a yum repo containing the rpm on the building box, next introduce that yum repo into olpc-os-builder with an entry in the [repos] section of the .ini file. ie: custom_repo_1=1,xo1-fw,file:full/path/to/repo/ After your changes run OOB and check the output/packages.txt to see which version was installed. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, jvo...@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 12:12:48 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close given the potential for error, I re-downloaded the q2f199, and without changing name, copied it up to our boot directory. Then when I tar-ed it all up, downloaded, the tar, expanded, I discovered that the presence of the bootfw.zip in the boot directory prevented the 4button load (finding the signed OS img using fs.zip or fs0.zip) from working. The observation was that It didn't find the image after 4 button startup. Then moved /boot/bootfw.zip to /boot/bootfw.zip.gh, and the img was loaded. I went part way down the road of trying to bundle q2f19 into 21021o0.img, but stopped because I hoped the approach you tried would work. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Updating_the_XO#Firmware says the os image includes firmware. so I installed olpc-os-builder and had a look at olpc-os-12.1.0-xo1.ini, but I don’t see how to rebuild with the later firmware. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close
Think your best bet is to install tuxpaint via yum(yum.cmd - install tuxpaint) and in asroot use rpm -Uvh path/to/fw/rpm (installs to /boot/) to upgrade the firmware and do any path adjustments or renaming at the same time. You could just use rpm commands in asroot also. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 4:10:15 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close got it. but now can I just install it with yum.cmd in tiny so I don't have to build a whole OS? Tim -Original Message- From: Jerry Vonau Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:57 PM To: Tim Moody Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro ; Curt Thompson ; Developers List ; George Hunt ; Adam Holt Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/local.13.2.0-xo1/tree/RPMS Use the 'plain' link on the right to save the rpm. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 3:43:11 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close but is the firmware an rpm? I assumed it wasn't. Tim -Original Message- From: Jerry Vonau Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:12 PM To: Tim Moody Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro ; Curt Thompson ; Developers List ; George Hunt ; Adam Holt Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close Hi Tim, I'd first see if you can build an image with a stock configuration before you introduce any changes. I'd create a yum repo containing the rpm on the building box, next introduce that yum repo into olpc-os-builder with an entry in the [repos] section of the .ini file. ie: custom_repo_1=1,xo1-fw,file:full/path/to/repo/ After your changes run OOB and check the output/packages.txt to see which version was installed. Jerry - Original Message - From: Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com To: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com, Adam Holt h...@unleashkids.org Cc: Sandra / Sora Edwards-Thro s...@unleashkids.org, Curt Thompson curtathomp...@gmail.com, Developers List devel@lists.laptop.org, jvo...@shaw.ca Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2013 12:12:48 PM Subject: Re: latest HaitiOS-0.6 very close given the potential for error, I re-downloaded the q2f199, and without changing name, copied it up to our boot directory. Then when I tar-ed it all up, downloaded, the tar, expanded, I discovered that the presence of the bootfw.zip in the boot directory prevented the 4button load (finding the signed OS img using fs.zip or fs0.zip) from working. The observation was that It didn't find the image after 4 button startup. Then moved /boot/bootfw.zip to /boot/bootfw.zip.gh, and the img was loaded. I went part way down the road of trying to bundle q2f19 into 21021o0.img, but stopped because I hoped the approach you tried would work. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Updating_the_XO#Firmware says the os image includes firmware. so I installed olpc-os-builder and had a look at olpc-os-12.1.0-xo1.ini, but I don’t see how to rebuild with the later firmware. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Moving toward headless install on trimslice
On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 17:01 -0500, Tim Moody wrote: How does the os get onto the trimslice? zcat it onto a SDcard, How do you sudo if the only known user is not a sudoer? use su, and the default password setup in the image. Jerry Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 12:12:33 -0500 From: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com To: XS Devel server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] Moving toward headless install on trimslice for XSCE Message-ID: cadfccpv5g3dyxd5mh5qkyxr8hmlzca_dde+yzou73b0njm-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm wanting to do the following: - Get rid of the autologon to root at console tty. - Add a non privileged user (not a sudoer, not wheel), as we had pre-ansible, (user:admin,pw:12admin), so that the sshd config of permitrootlogon no can remain in place. - enable password authentication - Configure avahi to announce, so that in a trimslice situation, we can easily determine the remote sshd target ip. What do people think? ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Few sugar activities crashes
Hi Basanta This is more suitable for the olpc-devel list, but see below On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 11:25 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: You should check where are you getting the list of activities and versions. In the file olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini you have a section: [sugar_activity_group] url=http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1 The activities that get installed doesn't match the version shown on above link. I wonder why. OOB will append the sugar version end of that string using 13.2.0, 13.2, 13 in that order so what gets used should be: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/13.2 Does that match what is being installed? this url points to a page with the activities and versions to download. If you want try, I am working with a cloned repository https://github.com/godiard/olpc-os-builder/tree/v7.0 with the last version of sugar, many activities updates, and a few changes implemented for the Australia deployment. Gonzalo Yes I am giving it a try. On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: HI, On my 13.2.0 build, few activities like peppy, write, terminal doesn't work. When I uninstall the default version of terminal ( version 41) and install terminal-40.xo, it works. But when I try to generate image by putting version 40 under /usr/share/doc/olpc-os-builder-7.0.0/examples/activities/ it doesn't install. I always use olpc-os-builder --cache-only olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini. I was wondering will removing --cache-only in the above command will look for new terminal version and solve the issue? Or is there a way to exclude installing some sugar activities through olpc-os.13.2.0.xo4.ini file ? so that I can test and install the ones that works? Please suggest. Should you wish to alter the activities you could create your own microformat page listing your activities or change OOB to use the sugar_activities_extra module listing each url for the activities you want to use. Jerry Regards, Basanta Shrestha ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:38 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: If you need to scale up this change to many laptops, contact reu...@laptop.org or myself. I must know the SKU number. In the particular case of changing language/keyboard defaults as we are discussing, instead of changing manufacturing data I would recommend doing it via olpc-os-builder, configuration for [base], see http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/modules/base/README#n46 Or use TinyCore's xo-custom plugin to make the customizations to an existing image on an unlocked XO. http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/mktinycorexo/HOWTO.xo-custom Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] aliases for hacking on our XSCE school server
On Sun, 2013-10-27 at 13:20 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: I know that XSCE currently does some customizations, but personally I would prefer to see the normal installation process not modify shell aliases or prompts unless explicitly told to. I agree. These are more of a user preference than anything necessary for XSCE to function. +1 XSCE eventually should not act or install as if it is the sole role for a computer even if that is the most common use case. Jerry --- SJG On Oct 27, 2013 10:59 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I recently pushed an xs profile to github that will start fine tuning the working environment on the XSCE Now I'm thinking that I should add and collect some functions and aliases which make working with ansible playbooks and github, easier, and require fewer keystrokes. So far I've thought of: runal = runansible $1 -- runansible-playbook with verbose diagnostic ouput to $1 logfile. gc $1 $2= git clone github.com/$1/xsce.git --depth=10 $2 -- for quickly getting our own testing branch down to a unit under test pullum = git checkout master;git pull upstream master ( might need to test whether the first command succeeds before executing the second) pushob = git push origin $1(branch) The following aliases are currently available - though not collected into one place in the profile sr = systemctl restart $1 st = systemctl status $1 vlm = less /var/log/messages du1 = du --max-depth=1 . psg = ps -e|grep $1 I'm willing to collect everyone's ideas, test them, and update the system profile. Send me your suggestions. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [XSCE] Re: XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 18:20 -0400, Tim Moody wrote: +1 for the move. I guess you need to be careful with the timing so you don’t end up with the repo offline during the sprint, but if you feel confident in that then go for it. +1 motion carried, lets proceed. Now the question is working with merge requests, how are we going to handle that? Jerry ___ Change of Address timmo...@sympatico.ca is now t...@timmoody.com Please change your bookmarks. Thanks. ___ From: Anish Mangal Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:11 PM To: Martin Dluhos ; xsce-devel Cc: server-devel Subject: [XSCE] Re: [Server-devel] XSCE Proposal | Moving to github and notifications *If* there is consensus on moving to github, should be think about making the switch before the hacksprint in SF? It might save us some time as then we would have set-up the buildbot, etc. On the other hand, if there isn't consensus, maybe the hacksprint would be a good opportunity to try github out. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Martin Dluhos mar...@gnu.org wrote: On 10/09/2013 11:13 AM, Anish Mangal wrote: I think that it would be more appropriate to send notifications of merged pull requests rather than individual commits to avoid too much noise on the channel. Those who are interested can always follow the pull request link to access individual commits. I would prefer notifications for pull requests *both* when they are created and when they are merged. The creation of the pull request will sort of open a review and test window for people willing to do that, so notifying that event is necessary IMO. Very good point. I agree. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 19:48 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Ruben Rodríguez ru...@activitycentral.com wrote: Also, there are some bits of code in both Sugar and the activities that assume to be running on Fedora, or even on an XO, and those need cleaning. Be nice to know about these so we can fix them. You can start by looking for olpc specific paths that are hard-coded in places, here is a starting point: https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/extensions/cpsection/power/model.py https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/extensions/cpsection/aboutcomputer/model.py https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/src/jarabe/controlpanel/gui.py Jerry thx -- Rubén Rodríguez Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com Facebook: https://activitycentral.com/facebook Google+: https://activitycentral.com/googleplus Twitter: https://activitycentral.com/twitter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Fwd: XS-CE Setup Issue
On Mon, 2013-10-07 at 12:45 -0700, Anish Mangal wrote: Hi, I got this email for an error log of a xsce-0.4, 64 bit installation. Any ideas? (I've asked the person concerned to join server-devel, so he can ask questions directly in the future). Best, Anish -- Forwarded message -- From: John Lillis johnmichael...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM Subject: XS-CE Setup Issue To: Anish Mangal an...@activitycentral.com Hey Anish, I am trying to setup a small testing server for XS-CE 0.4, but I'm getting an error after running xs-setup. I am using Fedora 18 XFCE 64-bit within a VM. The error can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/0H2BNAk7. Thanks in advance, ./startup.sh: line 233: [: sysadmin:x:1000:1000:System: unary operator expected chown: invalid user: ‘admin:admin’ line 233: # make a non privileged user, and give her remote access if [ ! `grep $DEFAULTUSER /etc/passwd` ]; then adduser $DEFAULTUSER echo $DEFAULTPASSWORD | passwd $DEFAULTUSER --stdin The code needs to be re-done to prevent a string being returned when the test is expecting a number to be returned. This doesn't address the fact that you can have a 'sysadmin' user and a 'admin' user at the same time. Maybe a better test would be to see if the 'admin' user has a home directory created already before creating the 'admin' user account. Jerry -- - John ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: pretty boot stall on 1.5
Hi Kevin, On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 10:00 -0400, Kevin Gordon wrote: Folks. I have a bunch of 1.5's that I purchased used from OLPC Miami that I'm prepping to go out through OLPC Canada into the aboriginal communities, and I've run into a rather strange issue. Of the 40 machines, 27 of them re-image perfectly well and reboot wonderfully both on F17 and F14 builds. All 40 machines are flashed with Q3C07 OFW. I can repeatedly, using any of my 10 build sticks, reflash ad nauseam, and those 27 little beasts boot up perfectly. However, the other 13 always stall at the end of the pretty boot with all the little dots on, and the icon in the middle of the screen. Doesn't matter whether F14 or F17 based builds, always the same symptoms. Hang/stall once all the little circle of dots stop animating. There are no SD cards or USB devices attached to any of them, and the batteries are all charged up and the machines plugged in. I've found when I was fooling around with powerd's code and blew it that is what occurs, the video system doesn't switch from the DCON chip to using the cpu. Being adventurous, i said to myself, let's do a check-mark key text boot on these 13 to perhaps ascertain where it is is hanging up. Of course, when I do the text boot, the problem machines come up perfectly every time, again regardless of whether an F17 or F14 machine.. When ltting it reboot without the check-mark key they again stall. Yes, the check-mark key turns the DCON off during boot, that is powerd job to do once booted. The serial numbers for the machines have no pattern in this either, some in the range go fine, others do not. All machines are SKU 129. I seem to remember that there was a thread or ticket a while back about this, but I cannot seem to locate it. Any ideas?? One of the first things powerd interacts with is the network card, I'd run the OFW's tests for wifi. On one of the problem XOs, once in sugar can you connect to an AP? Can you send me the logs from /var/log off list to have a quick look at? Jerry Thanks, KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: pretty boot stall on 1.5
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 11:41 -0400, Kevin Gordon wrote: Jerry, you're a troubleshooting genius. Once I got into sugar from the check-mark boot, I could see the AP's, but couldn't connect. Alas, having that insight, this now became a probelm which I had seen before and knew how to solve. :-) Yep, as I'm sure everyone on the list will now giggle at me ... the hwclock was set to 01/01/1963,. once i did the date -- set, then hwclock --systohc, all works wonderfully on pretty boot. That makes sense, the bad date crashed powerd's logging, so the DCON didn't get switch off as sugar loaded. Thanks for the kickstart. YAY !!! Glad you got it all sorted out. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] Problems with the School Server and IIAB
On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 06:49 -0700, Braddock wrote:
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School Server Experts,
We are trying to deploy an Internet-in-a-Box (IIAB) network appliance
to an OLPC and XS school in Pakistan. (http://internet-in-a-box.org)
I need help getting them instructions so they can access the device
using their School Server XS 0.7
The IIAB appliance gets an DHCP lease on startup from their XS 0.7 server.
The IIAB appliance registers its name with the DHCP server as know.
In THEORY, on the XS, dhcpd should register the name know with the
named DNS server (ddns-update-style is set in /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf on my
own XS installation). Then students can access the IIAB appliance at
http://know
- From their reports, this appears to work initially, but after some
time (DHCP lease expires?) it stops working.
I'm looking for a simple solution to communicate to them to assign the
IIAB appliance a fixed IP address. It is currently not (safely)
possible to configure the IIAB appliance for a static IP. Then they
can just refer to it by IP.
I assume it should look something like:
host know {
hardware ethernet 00:03:6D:00:83:CF;
fixed-address 172.18.97.10;
}
added to /etc/dhcpd.conf
Add that to the template file /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf.in
xs-domain-config this replaces the domain name marker in the template
while copying the file to /etc/dhcpd-xs.conf
reload/restart dhcpd
Jerry
But with my very limited School Server experience I don't want to lead
them astray.
Any help appreciated.
- -braddock
On 08/31/2013 04:03 AM, Kishwer.Aziz wrote:
Tony,
Since my return from Pakistan in early August, the local support
team has been struggling with getting the school server and IIAB to
work on the network they have created using 8 routers (one for
every class of 20 students)
I have asked them to explain to me what the problem is and not
being technical I cannot understand what they are telling me. Given
below is their technical explanation for what is happening.
Verbally I have been told that sometimes some children can connect
while others cannot. When they turn the whole system on and off,
look for the IP allocated to the IIAB by the Server, give it to the
children they can connect to it but next day this changes.
Can you find us a solution for us? Tell us what we are doing
wrong?
Regards
Kishwer
*From:*Younus Zafar [mailto:younusza...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday,
August 30, 2013 11:45 AM *To:* Kishwer.Aziz *Subject:*
salam madam
(1)School server is assigning IP of two pools for clients( i-e
172.18.96.X 172.18.97.X
(2) it creates problem for Xo's to connect with IIAB server they
cannot use DNS resolver for domain name “know”
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Re: [Server-devel] rc.local stall on reboot
Hi George, On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 21:32 -0400, George Hunt wrote: I'm in Haiti, with limited internet access. Adam reports that the reboot at Silar's orphanage is stalling, and when he hits escape, we sees a red star traveling left and right, and an error message, which talks about a stop script. I am using rc.local to start up wvdial , which in turn stimulates the 3g ZTE USB modem, and opens up a vpn connection. Hey George, disable that script, lets check /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections for any weird looking connections next go to run level 5 (telinit 5), open My Computer and go to the Modem Configuration and configure the connection there. Once the connection is active I'd would look at how it was configured by Sugar. Open terminal and type nm-connection-editor, you might have 2 modem connections pick the one with the long UUID appended to the named and on click edit and ensure both connect automatically and available to all users are ticked. Reboot Once rebooted check if the connection is now active with ifconfig and route -n, if they are not present we need to do some further debugging. If you have a default gateway present run xs-setup-network to detect the gateway, this should setup the iptables' rules needed and with a little luck when you reboot every just works. Jerry What is the protocol so that it does not try to run the script also for shutdown? Any suggestions. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Reflashing over a network
Hi James, On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 18:19 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 08:53:33AM -0400, Tim Moody wrote: I have been interested in this approach for some time, but was told that the XO boot process that looks for a particular network name or SSID is not implemented on recent XOs. Bug or design choice, what is the likelihood that this will be an option going forward? It was a bug. It is now fixed. It is 95% likely to be an option going forward, but you must upgrade the firmware on XO-1.5, XO-1.75 or XO-4. See below for the upgrade. Sorry I've known about the different behaviours since I've been involved. Didn't know that it was considered a bug, just a reduced feature set in favour of NANDBlaster is what I thought when I first got involved. Didn't want to upset the apple cart. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 03:52:46PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: This is getting interesting but I am still not sure I understand the process. As I understand it, the XO will attempt to download the fs.zip (appropriately named) and then the os.img from 172.18.0.1 using http protocol. Yes. However, this currently only works for XO-1 because of a bug in the firmware. Yes. The bug number is #12740, and the fixes are available in http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/q3c16je.rom http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/q4d34je.rom http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/q7b37je.rom There is an alternative via boot net which invokes a different firmware process that is working in all XO models. This process uses tftp. The server would respond to a tftp request from the XO by sending the fs.zip and .img files. Is tftp used just to retrieve the fs.zip file? Is there a speed advantage over http with tftp? No point, 'cause the time you waste getting a Forth program into the laptop is better spent getting the install data into the laptop. The old recipe called for NN PP tags to be added that to OFW, not needed if you use OLPCOFW now. Yes. It works here, I just tried it with Q4D34JE with the web server on 172.18.0.1 loaded with 32013o2.zd and fs2.zip. 172.18.0.1 would need to be available/aliased on the server for this as that is coded as the default for the http transfer? In contrast tftp would rely on the DHCP server for the server to contact and doesn't have this limitation. I can't seem to find /packages/obp-tftp on dev.laptop.org/git/. In Lession 12 Automatic Net Booting refers to obp-tftp, I miss-took that as a different/separate project, it's a sub-package build into OFW. I suppose if we craft an olpc.fth script to setup the wifi networking that could be used in place of the 4 button boot? I don't understand the question, sorry. I'm was just wondering if we can override what is defined in firmware by booting a usb flashdrive with the same commands that you would use for initializing the wireless for example flashing of firmware. I mean setting of the SSID(MM), wep/wpa(PP), that sort of thing. Much easier to just configure an open access point with OLPCOFW. Here's what happens if the four game key boot method is used: In the absence of USB drive, SD card, or a nearby NANDblaster, the firmware will open the network, which means one of either: - initialise the USB ethernet device, or - associate with either OLPCOFW or the SSID identified by the NN tag, and then send an HTTP GET to 172.18.0.1 asking for the file fsN.zip, which it then validates against the security system, before executing it as normal as if it had been found on USB drive. I take it this would be for signed build only or can the image be unsigned if the XO is unlocked? Thank you for the detailed explanation, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Boot os 13.2.0 from SD card (XO-1, XO-1.5)
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 19:52 +, Chris Marshall wrote: Hi- Hi Chris, I'm trying to make an OS install SD card for 13.2.0 for an XO-1.5 and XO-1 in order to speed things up and to allow more memory for yum installs. Just to be clear here, you what to run the os from the external SDcard slot? or install from the SDcard slot to the internal storage? Have you looked at olpc-os-builder to create an image with your rpms pre-installed? Unfortunately, things seem to have changed a lot since the last time I went through this process circa the os 8.2 release. I've been trying to follow the directions from the OLPC Wiki on the following pages: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_images_for_USB_disks http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Custom_bootloader but they are mostly out of date enough so that I can't connect the dots to get a working version by myself. In fact, if I have an ext2/ext3/ext4 file system on the SD card, the OFW doesn't even see the card (it does if the fs is FAT32). Are there any updated/consolidated instructions for an SD card boot creation (as used to be available in the standard OS builds)? To install to an external SDcard for 1.5, 1.75, 4's you would need to have your *.zd file on a usb flashdrive inserted into the XO, access OFW's OK prompt then type: devalias fsdisk ext:0 enter fs-update u:\image.zd enter enter is the enter key replace image with the name of the image you want to install. Please remember that *1.zd is for XO-1.5's, *2.zd is for XO-1.75's, *4.zd is for XO-4's. Jerry Thanks in advance, Chris ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
adding a new CA root certificate
Hi all: What steps must I take to install a new root CA certificate so Browse can use it? When I click on the hyperlink of the certificate it get downloaded to the journal unlike firefox or older Browse where you are prompted. Thanks for any hints, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
adding a new CA root certificate
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Re: 13.2 query
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 23:34 -0700, Hal Murray wrote: qu...@laptop.org said: Hmm, there should be, though it might be the word English in another language. There are 3 choices on the pull-down list. They look like the same 3 I had before. The format is things like: Kreyol (Haiti) but the stuff inside () is useless (to me) for Dari and Pashto. There is no circle-minus box available. It doesn't even tell me what the current language is. Anybody know where that selection is stored so I can edit it with a text editor? /home/olpc/.i18n Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How everyone can help with 0.100
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 12:14 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 17 August 2013 12:03, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 August 2013 05:21, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Adding in olpc-devel. On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 03:34 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: This is based on the last sugar-build configuration which supported fedora 18. Note, I'm guessing a lot, you should give it a try before settling on a plan. * webkitgtk which drags in libsoup glib gobject-introspection pygobject dbus-python Kind of need to know the exact versions of the above packages, olpc is carrying patched versions[1] of a couple of those packages, so we need to be careful here. Anybody want to chime in on what patches need to be present for the XOs? I would take versions/specs from the Fedora 19 latest updates and add the following patches gobject-introspection: stringfix2.patch str.patch stringfix3.patch pygobject: Consolidate-signal-connection-code.patch Optimize-connection-of-Python-implemented-signals.patch Optimize-property-get-set-when-using-GObject.props.patch Optimize-signal-lookup-in-gi-repository.patch Simplify-registration-of-custom-types.patch Alternatively, use the F20 versions/specs and don't add any patch. Not sure which is better... If the patches apply cleanly or can be trivially ported I'd rather use the F19 versions/specs, which is what we currently have in sugar-build too. Thank you for the very useful information and advice. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 07:40 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, My point about the UPS is that an off-grid setup doesn't need one which somewhat offsets the additional cost of supporting a hard drive. Yea the cost savings can go towards a proper 12v deep cycle battery. Currently the two schools in Lesotho are using MSI Nettop as school servers. In the context of charging 30-100 XOs, the additional power consumed by the school server is negligible. However, at the second school which charges the laptops using individual solar panels, the school server takes a dedicated solar panel charging a pair of car batteries. The big surprise was that the MSI does not boot on 12vdc. This required adding an inverter (designed to charge laptops from a car battery). Good to know, thanks. I was hoping the Trim-Slice H would be suitable. I am concerned with its fixed 1GB memory. The Utilite looked like a promising alternative, but supports only SSD. We may have to wait for nettops based on the new Atom technology for a one-box solution. In the meantime, the current Atom based systems are doable in an off-grid deployment. By the way, the need for the school server is closer to 50 hours per week than 24/7. Normally it needs to be booted only during the hours when children are in school. Valid point, that should be taken into account when calculating total power requirements. Jerry Tony On 08/17/2013 06:21 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 05:49 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? 600-700 gigs The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. Yup, or when your offline. The cost of a UPS which is required for a system on the grid is $80-100. Think the issue is mainly about off-grid systems, those are usually 12v. What would be neat is if there was a power supply that you could replace in your standard PC that used 12v as the supply voltage. Anybody know of a manufacture that supplies one? I'd hate to see what the size of the battery pack and the recharging requirements needed of the solar/wind/insert others recharging system that would be needed to run such a beast. In my experience, there is need for one school server at a school supporting 30-200 XOs. Know of any low power devices that you might recommend for off-grid use? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Fwd: PEAP and keyfile]
Hi All, In 13.1.0 [1] were used while 13.2.0 uses [2]. Any ideas on how to solve this one? Next week I'll try replacing the non-working connection file with the one that does work when I have access to that network again. Jerry Forwarded Message From: Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca To: networkmanager-l...@gnome.org Subject: PEAP and keyfile Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:31:20 -0500 Hi All: I've ran into a situation that I'm not sure in how to handle with these packages[1] I was able to use nm-connection-editor with only the keyfile plugin to create the system connection with ease and resulted in this configuration: [802-1x] eap=peap; identity=x phase2-auth=mschapv2 password=y [802-11-wireless-security] key-mgmt=wpa-eap After updating the rpms[2] using nm-connection-editor results in this configuration: [802-11-wireless-security] key-mgmt=wpa-eap [802-1x] eap=peap; identity=x phase2-auth=mschapv2 password-flags=1 system-ca-certs=true I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do about this, any help or pointers would be grateful. I understand that password-flags=1 hands this over to an auth agent for the secrets, gnome keyring is running but with an empty password. I clicked ignore when prompted for the certs file. I've tried to downgrade back to [1] but with the same results. Am I running into some polkit issue here? What other dependencies might I have to downgrade to return to the same functionality? Thank, Jerry 1. NetworkManager-0.9.7.0-8.git20121004.fc18.armv7hl network-manager-applet-0.9.7.0-4.git20121016.fc18.armv7hl NetworkManager-glib-0.9.7.0-8.git20121004.fc18.armv7hl nm-connection-editor-0.9.7.0-4.git20121016.fc18.armv7hl 2. NetworkManager-0.9.8.1-3.git20130514.fc18.armv7hl network-manager-applet-0.9.8.1-3.git20130430.fc18.armv7hl NetworkManager-glib-0.9.8.1-3.git20130514.fc18.armv7hl nm-connection-editor-0.9.8.1-3.git20130430.fc18.armv7hl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How everyone can help with 0.100
Adding in olpc-devel. On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 03:34 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: This is based on the last sugar-build configuration which supported fedora 18. Note, I'm guessing a lot, you should give it a try before settling on a plan. * webkitgtk which drags in libsoup glib gobject-introspection pygobject dbus-python Kind of need to know the exact versions of the above packages, olpc is carrying patched versions[1] of a couple of those packages, so we need to be careful here. Anybody want to chime in on what patches need to be present for the XOs? * gwebsockets What are its dependencies? * libxklavier (not needed on the XO according to Jerry). See for yourself[2], olpc doesn't ship sugar-cp-keyboard. Jerry 1.http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/local.13.2.0/tree/SRPMS 2.http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/official/13.2.0-13/32013o4.packages.txt The first group of dependencies are probably going to be quite a pain. So you might want to patch webactivity.py to support webkit1 instead. That would leave only gwebsockets. Add sugar, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore, sugar-artwork. A total of five packages, not too bad. On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Martin Abente wrote: I think that having these packages on a publicly available repo would be of great help, not only for testing but also for developing... I know that maintaining specs and a building system sounds like headache now... but what if we can split the work? Daniel, how many system packages (aprox) are we talking about? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: OLPC doesn't ship with cp-keyboard installed perhaps for testing on XOs we could just patch that out at rpm generation like OLPC had done in the past. Jerry On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 02:17 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: By the way I think libxklavier 5.4 is not even in Fedora 19 but it's required for the keyboard control panel section to work. On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Daniel Narvaez wrote: From memory gwebsockets 0.3, libxklavier 5.4, webkitgtk 2.0.x. There are almost certainly more deps. (We really need to start tracking our dependencies more systematically but it's tricky). On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 10:57 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: It would be nice but I think it would involve a non trivial amount of work to do it properly. It's not just rebuilding the sugar rpms, there are system dependencies that would need to be built... latest libxklavier and webkitgtk comes to my mind, but there is probably more. What versions of the above packages and gwebsockets are required? Jerry On 15 August 2013 05:12, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: +1 This would be great! On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to have rpms to install over 13.2.0 In this way we can isolate for other changes on the distro, for every change
How everyone can help with 0.100 forwarded
Sorry to those who receive this twice. On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 22:21 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Adding in olpc-devel. On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 03:34 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: This is based on the last sugar-build configuration which supported fedora 18. Note, I'm guessing a lot, you should give it a try before settling on a plan. * webkitgtk which drags in libsoup glib gobject-introspection pygobject dbus-python Kind of need to know the exact versions of the above packages, olpc is carrying patched versions[1] of a couple of those packages, so we need to be careful here. Anybody want to chime in on what patches need to be present for the XOs? I'm looking for help on which patches might be now included in the upstream packages and are no longer need. * gwebsockets What are its dependencies? * libxklavier (not needed on the XO according to Jerry). See for yourself[2], olpc doesn't ship sugar-cp-keyboard. Jerry 1.http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/local.13.2.0/tree/SRPMS 2.http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/official/13.2.0-13/32013o4.packages.txt The first group of dependencies are probably going to be quite a pain. So you might want to patch webactivity.py to support webkit1 instead. That would leave only gwebsockets. Add sugar, sugar-toolkit-gtk3, sugar-datastore, sugar-artwork. A total of five packages, not too bad. On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Martin Abente wrote: I think that having these packages on a publicly available repo would be of great help, not only for testing but also for developing... I know that maintaining specs and a building system sounds like headache now... but what if we can split the work? Daniel, how many system packages (aprox) are we talking about? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: OLPC doesn't ship with cp-keyboard installed perhaps for testing on XOs we could just patch that out at rpm generation like OLPC had done in the past. Jerry On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 02:17 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: By the way I think libxklavier 5.4 is not even in Fedora 19 but it's required for the keyboard control panel section to work. On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Daniel Narvaez wrote: From memory gwebsockets 0.3, libxklavier 5.4, webkitgtk 2.0.x. There are almost certainly more deps. (We really need to start tracking our dependencies more systematically but it's tricky). On Saturday, 17 August 2013, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 10:57 +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote: It would be nice but I think it would involve a non trivial amount of work to do it properly. It's not just rebuilding the sugar rpms, there are system dependencies that would need to be built... latest libxklavier and webkitgtk comes to my mind, but there is probably more. What versions of the above packages and gwebsockets are required? Jerry On 15 August 2013 05:12, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: +1 This would be great! On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: +1 to have rpms to install
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 76, Issue 21
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 05:49 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, What is the disk capacity required by internet-in-a-box? 600-700 gigs The purpose of the server is to deliver the information not available from the internet. Yup, or when your offline. The cost of a UPS which is required for a system on the grid is $80-100. Think the issue is mainly about off-grid systems, those are usually 12v. What would be neat is if there was a power supply that you could replace in your standard PC that used 12v as the supply voltage. Anybody know of a manufacture that supplies one? I'd hate to see what the size of the battery pack and the recharging requirements needed of the solar/wind/insert others recharging system that would be needed to run such a beast. In my experience, there is need for one school server at a school supporting 30-200 XOs. Know of any low power devices that you might recommend for off-grid use? Jerry Tony On 08/17/2013 03:02 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: The average difference between power consumption of an SSD and a HDD is about 4W. [1][2] Now considering the environments we're gonna head into we're looking at typically 1-3 days of power backup for the server (lets average out at 2). That means, the battery backup needed is: 4 * 24 * 2 = 192 W-hr *That comes out to roughly $25-35 in battery costs* (again based on quick google searches for battery costs). *If you want a longer life from you're battery, you're looking at about $50-60 in battery costs.* Now if we're also giving solar backup, based on the calculator here [3] we're going to need about a 25-30W solar panel (for just those 4 extra watts). Again, google tells me that *such panels retail for about $65-80.* * * *So, on average we'll save $100-$130 on TCO (total cost of ownership), if we intend to provide an SSD as opposed to an HDD, considering the server runs 24x7 and 2 days of backup is needed.* * * On top of that, you're looking at less failures, a better operating temperature range, and more durability. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: olpc-os-builder
On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 09:13 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Is anybody else having trouble running OOB in the last day? I'm now getting this traceback when trying to run OOB: No, olpc-os-builder has worked fine when I tried it this morning on a similar build. It's working for me now also. grrr gremlins ;) Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: olpc-os-builder
On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 09:48 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 06:44:09PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-13 at 09:13 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 01:45:53PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Is anybody else having trouble running OOB in the last day? I'm now getting this traceback when trying to run OOB: No, olpc-os-builder has worked fine when I tried it this morning on a similar build. It's working for me now also. grrr gremlins ;) Yes. I would prefer if olpc-os-builder could operate in two modes; one where it did all the downloads, and a separate one where it can be used offline. This is what I did for mktinycorexo. That is what I was leaning towards when I was looking at doing an offline mode, like the staged pungi steps in olpc-xs-builder[1]. Use yumdownloader --resolve to populate and create a single yum repo for use in the image. You could fake this by reusing the cache, run createrepo against the cache directory holding the cache and use a single file:/// yum repo statement in the ini file, commenting out the online repos. Now that OOB caches activities just have to stop cleaning out the temp directory between runs. Think I brought that up when --cacheonly was introduced. Jerry 1. http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-xs-builder/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
On 11 August 2013 10:14, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: This behavior was noted with XO-1s only, all others(1.5,1.75,4) appear work fine in testing. That is _very_ weird. Does the affected unit have any problem reading its own serial number or uuid? Does the Sugar Control Panel show the serial number correctly? Good to hear from you Martin. Just to finish this thread off, I was not able to reproduce this behavior with the XO-1s that I have. This appears to affect Anna's machines only. Thanks for the hints to what might be the root cause. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
olpc-os-builder
Hi All: Is anybody else having trouble running OOB in the last day? I'm now getting this traceback when trying to run OOB: Reading repository information for http://mock.laptop.org/repos/local.13.2.0-xo1.75 Reading package information from http://mock.laptop.org/repos/local.13.2.0-xo1.75/repodata/primary.xml.gz Reading repository information for http://mock.laptop.org/repos/local.13.2.0 Reading package information from http://mock.laptop.org/repos/local.13.2.0/repodata/primary.xml.gz Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/git/oob-xs/modules/yumcfg/kspost.50.yumcfg.py, line 29, in module fd = ooblib.cachedurlopen(url + /repodata/primary.xml.gz) File /opt/git/oob-xs/lib/ooblib.py, line 156, in cachedurlopen urlfd = urllib2.urlopen(url) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 126, in urlopen return _opener.open(url, data, timeout) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 406, in open response = meth(req, response) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 519, in http_response 'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 444, in error return self._call_chain(*args) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 378, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File /usr/lib/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 527, in http_error_default raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp) urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ERROR: Failure in KspostStage: module yumcfg, part kspost.50.yumcfg.py, error code 1 * OLPC OS builder v7.0.0 Just wondering what could be causing this issue for me. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Think it's more of a question of looking for confirmation. Is anybody else seeing this behavior on 13.2.0-13 on XO-1s when used with any version of school-servers? I'm at a loss trying to explain why this is occurring to Anna. With the noted behavior where would you file the bug report? OLPC is what I'm thinking but looking if someone else might be impacted also or can confirm this. Jerry On 6 August 2013 05:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: There are a ticket filled? Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
This behavior was noted with XO-1s only, all others(1.5,1.75,4) appear work fine in testing. Jerry On 6 August 2013 13:09, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: I reimaged registered a XO-1.75 and a XO-4 with 13.2.0 to a XS-0.7 schoolserver. Afterwards I opened Browse, and was able to open http://schoolserver/ to login to Moodle without problems. This does not mean that there is not a bug with 13.2.0, XS, and/or XSCE; but one thing you could try is to fully stop and restart the Browse activity after registering if the first login attempt does not work. Sometimes I have found this helps. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.orgwrote: I don't have a school server to try. You should fill a ticket on bugs.sugarlabs.org cced: Manuel Quiñones, who maintain Browse activity. Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Think it's more of a question of looking for confirmation. Is anybody else seeing this behavior on 13.2.0-13 on XO-1s when used with any version of school-servers? I'm at a loss trying to explain why this is occurring to Anna. With the noted behavior where would you file the bug report? OLPC is what I'm thinking but looking if someone else might be impacted also or can confirm this. Jerry On 6 August 2013 05:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: There are a ticket filled? Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.auwrote: Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Sugar in a chroot?
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 21:37 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Chris Ball ch...@printf.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Sameer Verma wrote: 2) If we can run Android on the XO-4, then Fedora/Sugar can run in a chroot. That gives us Sugar and Android on the XO-4. Well, if it was that easy, we'd all be running Ubuntu desktops on our Android phones already, right? The graphics system gets in the way -- you can't run X on top of Android, yet Gtk depends on X, and Sugar depends on Gtk. Thanks. I've been running Debian on a Android phone, but I access GNOME over VNC from a different computer. Wonder if a VNC viewer on the Android phone itself would show me the UI. Think connecting to the loopback (lo) address should work if the vnc service is bound to that address. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:19:30AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. Indeed. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? There are no plans at the moment for OLPC to develop and release xs-0.8, but this may change if a deployment comes to us with a need. That doesn't answer the question is OLPC going to maintain their already forked rpm going forward? It's blocking a EPEL update[1], not that it's a security update but should one come down the pipe, as a system administrator I'd like re-assurance that I can run the latest fixed code. Hate to think that no new updates are available until some other deployment needs something. This is also blocking XS on CentOS-6.4[2] as the wrong version of ejabberd gets installed. That there is a deployment contributing to XSCE is certainly good to keep in mind and recognise. There may be more versions of XSCE released than XS, but that's not a technical problem. No a problem at all, shows the XSCE crew are actively working towards their goals and listening to future potential users and reacting. Jerry This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846856 2. http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/XS_Install-1.txt ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 25
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 08:23 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 05:40 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: I'd be interested in the contents of the xs-moodle files or is that an example? Sounds like 20-xc-generic looks for xc-* directories and files in those directories to execute, need to see the code to be sure on what you require. The install file for Moodle is cd $UM_MOUNTPOINT/XC if [ -f xc-moodle/xc-moodle-install ]; then log notice Installing moodle cd xc-moodle if bash xc-moodle-install; then log notice moodle installed successfully else log notice moodle install failed with code $? error_beep fi else log notice 'moodle not found' error_beep fi The xc-moodle-install file is: #!/bin/bash #take backup from existing moodle #su - postgres #pg_dump moodle-xs moodle-xs.sql #stop httpd /etc/init.d/httpd stop #copy the moodle folder to /library rm -rf /library/moodle cp -r moodle /library/moodle chown -R apache:apache /library/moodle #restore the moodle-xs.sql backup of the database psql -d moodle-xs -f moodle-xs.sql #replace config.php file in /var/www/moodle/web and update /etc/httpd/conf.d/moodle.conf (if necessary) cp config.php /var/www/moodle/web cp moodle.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d #start httpd /etc/init.d/httpd start Naturally, Moodle itself is installed as part of XS-0.7. This installs a PostgreSQL backup of Moodle content (courses). It also moved the Moodle data to /library. This was a mistake in the XS implementation. Data directories which can grow with use should be in /library not in the root partition. This is the change in config.php. yup, good catch. Got a copy of that also? The essence of this technique is that 20-xc-generic needs to be installed by xo-custom, xs-setup, or in the build. Once that is installed, a deployment can perform any additional installations of content or packages via xc-install. It would probably be useful to have a library of these optional installations. Yes it would then I could stop asking for source code for an open source project. Currently, I am using this technique to install the courseware for the Learn activity, Django, the library, wiki4schools, mediawiki, wiktionary, the beginnings of a learning management system, and the beginnings of an itembank of questions. I hope to have an install script for IIAB (probably one for the front end and one or more for the content). XSCE is working towards the same goals. Tony Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:43 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 01:17:23AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:19:30AM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. Indeed. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? There are no plans at the moment for OLPC to develop and release xs-0.8, but this may change if a deployment comes to us with a need. That doesn't answer the question is OLPC going to maintain their already forked rpm going forward? It's blocking a EPEL update[1], not that it's a security update but should one come down the pipe, as a system administrator I'd like re-assurance that I can run the latest fixed code. Hate to think that no new updates are available until some other deployment needs something. This is also blocking XS on CentOS-6.4[2] as the wrong version of ejabberd gets installed. I can't find any ticket on dev.laptop.org that mentions this, can you? Just discovered while reviewing the CentOS-6.4 install[2] after the groupinstall issue was fixed. You want to file this bug or shall I? Jerry That there is a deployment contributing to XSCE is certainly good to keep in mind and recognise. There may be more versions of XSCE released than XS, but that's not a technical problem. No a problem at all, shows the XSCE crew are actively working towards their goals and listening to future potential users and reacting. Jerry This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry
[Server-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 15:33 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 03:06 PM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very*different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! This question has many interesting implications! While I don't know the answer to your question I do have some more specific follow on questions. Questions about today: If I am a deployment, large or small, looking to deploy a school server, which should I choose? and Why? If a deployment has the power for an Atom-based server, then XS-0.7 is the choice today. According the 0.3 release notes, XSCE is only supported on an XO. Tony, that would be your choice to use XS-0.7, please don't put words in my mouth, I would use the soon to be released XSCE-0.4 on the same hardware. If I am a deployment, large or small, looking to make customizations to my school server, which 'base' should I choose? Should I upstream my customizations or should hold on to them? Customization has to used carefully. There is not a system administrator alive who has built a custom server configuration. None of that has any impact on server software development. I have, XS on F11/F14 and I disagree, it sure does as the underlying OS evolves, your customisations have to keep up, rpms may need to be re-compiled and the general adapting to the changes in the OS. For example, adding CUPS to support an attached printer is something that a deployment can do if desired. or adding Django, content, or anything else someone wanted to pay for. If I a contributor looking to help ICT4E move forward, which school server should I work on and why? I am not sure what ICT4E means (ICT seems to be used in education to mean studying computers as a subject, not using computers to learn). There are a number of important items still on the wish list. Adding the IIAB content is probably at the top of the list. Providing a way for a deployment to be 'librarian', e.g. with Calibre is another. Finding a way for teachers to make assignments, receive student submissions, mark them, and return annotated copies (digital copybook) is high on the list. Providing an email capability with client software on the XO and an XS facility (e.g. pop3 and smtp) which is capable of interface to Internet via removable device. Implementing Wikipedia in a child-safe form with fast full-text search. Providing an effective 'badge' mechanism to honor children who have demonstrated learning. There is no lack of things to do. That is kind of blurring the line between features and system administration functions. Questions about the future: Is the XS feature complete? Does it do everything it can to add value to deployments? If there are ways to add more value, is there a plan or funding model to support that development? XS-0.7 is a baseline install. The question should be what can deployments usefully install on XS-0.7. If we view every change as requiring a new build, deployments are looking at huge expense. In Nepal, Abhishek and I had to download over 10GB of repositories to build XO-0.7 offline. I think re-spinning the install iso is not that hard but you may need more than one CD or switch to the DVD format to fit all the needed rpms. That would take a decade at most of the schools I service (average download speed is 5kb/sec - with tens of restarts per gigabyte -not to mention loss of sleep restarting). I agree a fully offline install method is needed. Is the XSCE feature complete? Does it do everything it can to add value to deployments? If there are ways to add more value, is there a plan or funding model to support that development? Questions for OLCP: Are there steps OLPC can do to encourage deployments to fund further development of XS by OLPC developers? Are there steps OLPC can do to encourage direct development of XS by deployments? As mentioned, there are server developments at many deployments. What would be great is a co-operative team that would work to provide capabilities in a way that can be distributed widely. I am sure that Peru is working on a method to deliver email via usb drive (and internet cafes). I just don't have any visibility in the method taken, the technology employed, or whether the development can be applicable outside of Peru. You better have your ducks in a row when it comes to internet email, you can become subject to rbls and other such anti-spam measures by the isp or hosting service of the people you might what to email. The email subject needs to be
Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable
Think it's more of a question of looking for confirmation. Is anybody else seeing this behavior on 13.2.0-13 on XO-1s when used with any version of school-servers? I'm at a loss trying to explain why this is occurring to Anna. With the noted behavior where would you file the bug report? OLPC is what I'm thinking but looking if someone else might be impacted also or can confirm this. Jerry On 6 August 2013 05:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: There are a ticket filled? Gonzalo On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Great piece of deductive testing Anna, way to go. Forwarding for further investigation. Jerry -- Forwarded message -- From: Anna ascho...@gmail.com Date: 5 August 2013 15:02 Subject: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable To: xsce-devel xsce-de...@googlegroups.com I just realized that someone will probably ask what's the most recent build where Moodle transparent auth did work. Lucky for me, I just had to test one older. Moodle transparent auth DOES work in 13.2.0-12. So whatever broke client side Moodle transparent auth should be confined to 13.2.0-13. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I very recently upgraded my little herd of XOs to the latest stable build 13.2.0-13. Unfortunately, something in that build has broken Moodle's transparent authentication. When a registered client goes to http://schoolserver/moodle, all it gets is the login page. Now, that's not unheard of, you can usually just click the Home button and get automatically logged in. But when I've seen that before, the XO's SN is filled out in the Username field on the login page. The 13.2.0-13 XO doesn't show that. No matter what you click on in the Moodle login page, it never logs in. To verify it was a client side issue, I flashed an XO-1 with 13.1.0 stable, and registered first to be admin. I also registered a 13.2.0-13 as the second client. On the 13.1.0, I can go to the Moodle homepage and it automatically logged me in. I tried again to access the Moodle homepage on the 13.2.0-13 XO-1, but yep, still just got the login page. On the admin XO, I went to Site Administration - Users - Accounts - Browse list of users and saw both XOs listed. It indicated that the 13.2.0-13 client had never logged in. So, the user account is being created on the server for the 13.2.0-13 XO upon registration, but client side transparent authentication is not working. To verify the 13.2.0-13 XO's Browse Activity is accepting cookies, I went to http://www.bu.edu/htbin/computing/browsers/troubleshooting/cookietest.pland the test was successful. Now, I have successfully tested Moodle transparent auth with previous iterations of 13.2.0, perhaps 8 or 9? So whatever change on 13.2.0 that broke transparent auth must have been relatively recent. I took a look at the Browse Activity version between the two clients: 13.1.0 = Browse 149 13.2.0-13 = Browse 149.3 I knew it wouldn't make a difference, but I also tested the 13.2.0-13 as first registration and it doesn't care that its the admin user. And also tested with a fresh flash to make sure there wasn't something sticky in there from a previous registration gumming things up. I've tested this with the XSCE installed a couple days ago (xs-config-0.8.4.123.gda5e8e3-1) and the latest DXS from this morning. I also remembered I have an XS 0.6 (duh, Anna) and the results were the same. I don't have an XS 0.7 installation, but I would expect the same results. Since this is a client side issue, I'm not sure where to go from here as far as troubleshooting. Anna ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Questions for today
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 16:46 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: On 08/06/2013 04:22 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: I agree a fully offline install method is needed. I think we are in substantial agreement. My model is that the deployment has someone with technical skills available who prepares the server for installation. However, at the deployment, the server should be stable enough to operate through a school year without hands-on system administration (except when the server hardware fails). Full agreement with that, except for perhaps performance tuning that might crop up with user demands. The community can provide the, probably volunteer, system administrator with a base system and a pantry of appropriate ingredients to tailor for a specific deployment without requiring the admin to give up his day job. It is perfectly feasible to install the school server from a usb drive. Yes, I'm one of original driving forces behind that. It is the build that currently requires internet access. Yup I agree, that is where the repos live unless you have created a local mirror for pungi to use offline. The pungi tool has been updated/replaced by lorax in the newer Fedora versions. The install at the moment requires a monitor, usb wired keyboard, and a usb wired mouse. Think a vnc based anaconda(the installer) install might be do-able also, to access the target machine not to retrieve rpms. These are not required after the install. By the way, the repositories need for an XS-0.7 build don't come close to fitting on a DVD. Just need access to the internet or local mirror to let pungi do its magic gathering the needed rpms and creating the anaconda installer. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 18:19 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:06 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: snip It's not that complicated. My original assertion was to be clear about the roadmap for XS and XSCE. It is now clear that the XSCE project is not going to be the next XS. Both projects are very different, and convergence may not be in the best interests of all parties involved. So be it. Move along. Nothing to see here. So when does the work on XS-0.8 begin? Might look un-maintained to lots of potential deployments. From my perspective, XS is designed by OLPC to service their projects, which tend to be larger than microdeployments. XSCE, on the other hand seems to be driven by smaller LAN size, such as the classroom scenario promoted by AU, or my India project. We use XS 0.7 in Jamaica because it was the only game in town back then, it runs atop CentOS, and it uses Moodle, which we are not averse to. It is also tried and tested in many other deployments much larger than ours, so that's comforting. No, not really, that was your choice. I also use XSCE in India, but for entirely different reasons. I needed something that was extremely low power. XS 0.6 that ran on a FitPC was ok, but it pulled 8W. I couldn't move up to XS 0.7, because of a PAE issue, and didn't have the resources to wrangle with it. The XO 1.75 as XS running XSCE fits the bill for very low power, although running atop Fedora does not give me clear upgrade paths. We'll see how quickly that install gets old. In fact, XS 0.6 was on F9, and suffered the same fate. Personally, I would prefer the stability of CentOS over the newness of Fedora. Can XS 0.7 serve the features of XSCE? Already done, moodle et all. With a bit of work, sure. Can XSCE serve the stability of XS 0.7? I recall Chris, Adam, and yourself having loads of issues in Jamaica with the XS-0.7 or was that just an end user mis-configuration? By the way who got that resolved for you? With a little bit of work, sure. The difference in design is based on a difference in the needs of various projects. I suspect it is also fueled by a not invented here sentiment. yup, been on the receiving end of that since 2008. While the XS continues to live in the colored box on the wiki as an official offering from OLPC, as I expect it to be, along with the OLPC images for the XOs (and I hope we hear about the roadmap from the powers-that-be), I think XSCE needs to grow up and live in its own space on the wiki as a proper page, and not live in Adam Holt's user page. Cool, so the XSCE can have space on the wiki? It is a community project and it should be treated as such. Let the deployment pick and choose what they'd like. If living under the same wiki becomes too contentious, space is cheap! Move some place else, and while you are at it, please keep the mailing lists open. Well us mere mortals don't get to see the private OLPC mailing lists, those are private dealings behind closed doors right? I shouldn't have to write a paragraph to Adam and ask permission to be added to the mailing list. Our IRC channel is open, come hangout there are others from OLPC hanging around, join the party. That stifles communication, and if you all haven't caught on as yet, we are *not* dealing with a technology problem! This business of building a dozen different server projects is a people problem. Brought on by a lack of leadership IMHO. I look forward to more communication on this and other lists and I sincerely hope we can continue to work together as one community. Oh, and I hope to see you all in October. http://www.olpcsf.org/node/133 Even if my passport is not ready I will present, count on that. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Server-devel Digest, Vol 75, Issue 25
Thank you Tony, I'll see if I can intergrade this into the XSCE as a
optional module. More below.
On Fri, 2013-08-02 at 12:02 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote:
On 08/01/2013 06:33 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Tony Andersont...@olenepal.org wrote:
Hi,
As I have unsuccessfully tried to explain many times. OLE Nepal, with help
from Daniel Drake, an effective and proven means to add selected
capabilities
to the base server. Since this capability takes advantage of the running
base
server, all of its normal system administration capabilities are available
(ssh,
yum, etc.).
This is true, but not documented well and not known. For instance, we
use munin and openvpn on the XS 0.7 in Jamaica, and those are
add-ons. It would be good to document this and discuss approaches
for installing complementary services.
The process is straightforward.
At install time, the script xs-custom is executed.
#!/bin/bash
cp 20-xc-generic /etc/usbmount/mount.d
cp path.py /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages
python fixssh.py
adduser -padmin admin
xs-setup domain
poweroff
It installs a modified version of Daniel Drake's script 20-xc-generic
which will be executed when a removable drive is mounted.
It puts path.py (a utility I use in many python cgi-scripts).
It executes a script fixssh.py which enables password authentication.
Finally, it adds user admin with password admin.
The xs-setup script is executed to complete the process.
The poweroff is a clear signal when the script is finished and forces a
reboot.
The 20-xc-generic script is attached.
Think the attachment got scrubbed in digest mode. Can you reply to this
tread with the contents of 20-xc-generic script please?
It checks the removable device for
a root folder
XC. If this exists, it checks for a script in that folder 'xc-install'.
If so, it is executed. This allows a usb drive or hard drive to be used
for this install or for other purposes by renaming the XC folder (e.g.
xc) so that it is ignored.
The fixsh.py scripts enables password authentication:
#!/usr/bin/python
test = 'PasswordAuthentication'
fin=open('/etc/ssh/sshd_config.in','r')
txt = fin.read()
fin.close()
lines = txt.split('\n')
txtout = ''
fout = open('/etc/ssh/sshd_config.in','w')
for line in lines:
if test in line and not '#' in line:
print fout, test + ' yes'
else:
print fout, line
fout.close()
This is another reason for poweroff and reboot so that
/etc/ssh/sshd_config is also
updated.
Think a sshd restart might suffice.
This enables login from an XO or other PC via ssh admin@schoolserver for
system administration.
That is part of the stock XSCE build.
The below needs the 20-xc-generic file to be present on the XS correct?
The xc-install script in XC looks like this:
#!/bin/bash
# Author: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
# XS auto-usbmount import script for code parts of the e-library
#modified for Rwanda configuration tony_ander...@usa.net
set -e
VERBOSE=No
# Log a string via the syslog facility.
log()
{
if test $1 != debug || expr $VERBOSE : [yY] /dev/null; then
logger -p user.$1 -t xc-code[$$] -- $2
echo $(date +%F %T) xc-code: $2
fi
}
error_beep()
{
echo -en '\033[10;1000]\033[11;100]\007' /dev/console
sleep 0.2
echo -en '\033[10;1000]\033[11;100]\007' /dev/console
sleep 0.2
echo -en '\033[10]\033[11]' /dev/console
return 0
}
UM_MOUNTPOINT=/media/usb0
cd $UM_MOUNTPOINT/XC
if [ -f xc-wiki/xc-wiki4schools-install ]; then
log notice Installing Wiki4Schools
cd xc-wiki
if bash xc-wiki4schools-install; then
log notice wiki4schools installed successfully
else
log notice wiki4schools install failed with code $?
error beep
fi
else
log notice 'xc-wiki not found'
It normally has several of these install sections. The install section
looks for a
folder: xc-wiki and in that folder for an install script:
xc-wiki4schools-install.
The contents of the folder are:
wiki.conf
xc-wiki4schools-install
xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz
xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz.sha1
The xc-wiki4schools-install is:
#!/bin/bash
wktar=xc-wiki4schools.tar.gz
log() {
logger -p user.notice -t nexc-wiktionary-inst -s -- $1
}
cp wiki.conf /etc/httpd/conf.d
rm -rf /library/wiki
mkdir -p /library/wiki
cp $wktar /library/wiki
cd /library/wiki
if ! tar -xzf $wktar; then
log could not extract $wktar
exit 1
fi
rm -rf /library/wiki/$wktar
chown -R apache:apache /library/wiki
chmod -R 755 /library/wiki
This script installs wiki.conf in /etc/httpd/conf.d, makes a folder
/library/wiki,
copies the tarball to this folder and extracts it there. The tarball is
removed and
permissions
Re: [Server-devel] XS to become XSCE???
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:51 -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:16 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 10:13:25PM -0700, Sameer Verma wrote: Just noticed that on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Installing_Software_0.7 it says that stable version is XS 0.7 and unstable is XSCE 0.3 Is this correct? What you see is from the template page Latest Releases and occurs on every Wiki page that includes that template. So the fact that it is on XS_Installing_Software_0.7 is not unusual, because that page includes the template. The template edits that led to this are here: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287052oldid=266082 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287053oldid=287052 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Template:Latest_Releases/XS-develdiff=287329oldid=287053 Thanks for the links. Makes it clearer. Is XSCE to become XS 0.8? I am all in favor of the two projects merging, but as I understand it, XS and XSCE are two very *different* projects as of now. Some clarification would be great! I don't see any indication on the template to suggest that XSCE will become XS, but I do see Server software now includes xs-0.7 as stable, and XSCE 0.3 as unstable. I don't see any unstable version of xs-, and I don't see any stable version of XSCE. I'd like to see both. The former would indicate ongoing development of xs- and the latter would indicate finalisation of XSCE. Correct, but as it is represented now, XS will become XSCE, which is incorrect. As a customer, I consider XS and XSCE to be two different products. The XS is a product from OLPC. XSCE is a product (not production ready, but still a product) from the community (double quotes intended). Although the XSCE may very well be a fork of the XS, it has its own specs and a set of developers working on it. I am one of the few who use XSCE on a 1.75 in one of my projects. I also use XS 0.7 in three other projects. My reasonings for choosing one over the other are distinct. So, I do not appreciate the confusion. Mixing the two is misleading. XS 0.7 may very well be end of the line, or there may be a 0.8, but that's up to OLPC to decide, and not for XSCE to usurp. After all, AU has a server. As the developer of that AU version, lots of my code and ideas when on to become what is XS-0.7 thanks to dsd. Still think imitation is the highest form of flattery. So does Nepal. So does Uruguay. So does Activity Central. We don't see those listed on the template now, do we? If this was out of a misunderstanding, it needs to be corrected. If this injection was deliberate, then it was foolish at best. It's a shame how much obfuscation has creeped into this space. Let's be clear about what the XS is and what the XSCE is and move on. Yes, lets be clear here, is OLPC going to maintain 0.7 going forward? I asking if OLPC is going to maintain their forked ejabberd rpm and not rely on exclude=ejabberd in the yum repo files? This there going to be a 0.8? When? and by who? We don't need to duplicate efforts here. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] yum groupinstall
Hi All, While helping someone install XS-0.7 on a pre-existing install using the instructions Installing on top of existing OS installation[1]. After installing the release rpm the next step results in: root@localhost Test_XS]# yum groupinstall OLPC XS Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile epel/metalink| 14 kB 00:00 * base: centos.tcpdiag.net * epel: mirror.pnl.gov * extras: centos.tcpdiag.net * updates: centos.mirrors.hoobly.com epel | 4.2 kB 00:00 epel/primary_db | 4.5 MB 00:01 olpcxs | 1.9 kB 00:00 olpcxs/primary_db| 29 kB 00:00 Setting up Group Process Checking for new repos for mirrors epel/group_gz| 237 kB 00:00 Warning: Group OLPC XS does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update What I think may of occurred is when a rpm was updated on June 5 in the repo, createrepo wasn't called with -g to use the group definition, so the group no longer exists. I believe this to be true as the date on repodata/comps.xml [2] was not updated like the rest of the files in /repodata Jerry 1. http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Installing_Software_0.7/ 2. http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386/repodata/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] yum groupinstall
On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 11:33 +1000, James Cameron wrote: In Daniel's happy absence, how would I fix this? quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ pwd /var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386 quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ ls -actl| head -9 total 86748 drwxr-xr-x 3 dsd dsd 4096 2013-06-05 11:42 . drwxr-xr-x 2 dsd dsd 4096 2013-06-05 11:42 repodata -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd28016 2013-06-05 11:41 xs-activity-server-0.3.6-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd31672 2012-02-20 11:37 xs-activation-0.3.14.gd2a3727-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd82029 2012-02-16 18:03 xs-config-0.7.0.46.g9b886c8-1.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd44000 2012-02-14 15:37 xs-tools-0.5.5.g49ddc07-1.el6.noarch.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 dsd dsd 10060900 2012-02-14 12:54 moodle-xs-1.9.5.xs1.15.g7c6a865-1.el6.noarch.rpm drwxr-xr-x 4 dsd dsd 4096 2012-02-10 12:19 .. quozl@crank:/var/www/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386$ cd repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/i386/ createrepo -g comps.xml . Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Firmware install
On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 07:33 +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, We had this experience in Lesotho where we were rarely working directly from the mains. However, if the firmware is not installed, the message will appear on each subsequent boot. I am not sure that the battery charge is an issue. The firmware installs when the laptop detects that it is running from an AC adapter. Tony I have a olpc.fth file that defeats the mains AC check provided the battery has 50% charge or more and installs the newer firmware when present on the usbkey. Only works on unlocked XOs, hit me up if your interested. Jerry On 07/20/2013 05:13 AM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: When reflashing to one of the newer builds; i.e., 12.1.0 or newer, be sure to use a fully charged battery and a plugged in power adapter when reflashing. The new builds will upgrade the firmware automatically if the battery is fully charged. If it is not, during the end of the reflash process it will say something like cannot get new firmware continuing to update with old firmware. If you are not watching the screen you might not see this. And, I always check the system date and reset it (from the root terminal per instructions on the Fix ClockWiki page) before reflashing. That has solved the stuck on the grey dots problem. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Copying contents of Journal to transfer from XO-1.75 to XO-4
Hi Tabitha, On 7 July 2013 03:59, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Hi We are swapping out a classroom of XO-1.75s to XO-4s (known as XO-Duos in Australia I think). Is there a way of taking the majority of the contents of the Journal from XO-1.75 onto USB and then putting it into the Journal of the XO-4s? Maybe, but your moving from sugar .94 to .98. I don't think there are any datastore issues to deal with. I am not too concerned with getting all the data, but would like to at least get sound, video and images they have created, as well as Write files. Would be great if we can also get Turtleart projects and other activity output, so would appreciate any suggestions that people have. I am familiar with drag and drop the file from the Journal to the USB icon, but that is one file at a time, so hoping there is another way. I would try the backup/restore functionality of Dextrose to accomplish that. Insert your usbkey / right click on the usbkey's icon in the journal / select backup. The backup is stored in usbkey/backups/serial number/datastore.tar.gz. Change the serial number directory of the source machine to be that of the target XO-4's serial number. Insert your usbkey / right click on the usbkey's icon in the journal / select restrore We are planning on installing XO-system 1a (build 49) from Australia. We are assuming the XO-1.75s have an old Australian build on them but don't have these details. Good, that has an older version of Dextrose that should work. We'll be at the school Monday-Wednesday NZ time so hoping for suggestions or instructions within this timeframe. Glad to be of service, Jerry Thank you Tabitha New Zealand ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: x performance problem in webkitgtk
Think you ran into the same root cause as https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12718 might be fixed in 13.2.0-12 Jerry On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 19:42 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote: Just tested with WikipediaEN that it does not happen on 21021 (12.1.0) so it is a regression. On 07/07/2013 18:53, NoiseEHC wrote: Hi! Now that I am developing a HTML editor application, noticed a performance problem on xo1.75 latest (32011). The symptom is that text selection is very-very slow in the editor. You can test it by opening a long page from wikipedia in epiphany, selecting some text with the mouse then pressing shift+up or shift+down. Looking at 'top -d 0.3 -p pid of x' shows that while the browser is thinking about the selection, the X process consumes all CPU, then the webview is updated. The same does not happen if you just scroll the webview. I have installed firefox and it does not have the same problem either. Could you test it on XO-1 and XO-1.5, please? I think fixing this problem is quite important as it practically makes all text editing web applications unfeasible on the XO... Thanks, Andrew ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [XSCE] Problems with python optimization setting
Hi Braddock, On 6 July 2013 21:47, Braddock bradd...@braddock.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, Working on Internet-in-a-Box integration with OLPC School Server CE. There are multiple problems caused by the python optimization setting in OLPC OS 13.1.0. PYTHONOPTIMIZE=2 is set in /etc/profile.d/zzz_olpc.sh That is a olpc customization, and can be changed. It causes Python to generate lightly optimized .pyo files instead of .pyc files. This breaks virtualenv and building python packages into RPMs. Both these problems go away with an 'unset PYTHONOPTIMIZE' $ virtualenv v New python executable in v/bin/python ImportError: Bad magic number in /tmp/v/lib/python2.7/site.pyo ERROR: The executable v/bin/python is not functioning ERROR: It thinks sys.prefix is u'/tmp' (should be u'/tmp/v') ERROR: virtualenv is not compatible with this system or executable This also breaks building of Python packages into RPMs. For a failing example: wget https://pypi.python.org/packages/source/b/backports.lzma/backports.lzma-0.0.2.tar.gz tar xzf backports.lzma-0.0.2.tar.gz (cd backports.lzma-0.0.2; python setup.py bdist_rpm) Does this affect the running of the code or just the building of the rpms? Jerry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR2Na1AAoJEHWLR/DQzlZuhfAH/3Um5xAQAirjt6FHyswa/KLg ZfN2Sf1LVZRIXPIjZ8av4BqOJqOnYD3giqrX1tTymWQcaL9sjb5MOXRyWGcd44w8 ZUYgdEJBa6LBTssNukIZL6+DKtaGFNYuJfRB8OnZzrCmaIQL36UBfNTKL65MxUJI z7+c3b90PQgJ063AM6gOcpu8dsfFZZbvep9PG7neechee23Rx2FH3MItY9wSNHoM I2sUjrRiATdX8wXWyvo1Yu70wHLFJ2Ndv9kov/OICJCjIH+odXFPfq8DjJUlAZV/ IY4w2GWsBJMzbyRR1LMQ/Pql6BYqPX12N+15fGe5Txmyo9JkAIRm3A6IGKWAy2o= =7X6D -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC New Zealand] Māori Macrons olpc keyboard
On 5 July 2013 07:01, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: On 01/07/13 19:53, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 07:35:03PM +1200, Tom Parker wrote: xkbcomp $DISPLAY orig.xkb patch -p0 maori.patch sudo cp orig.xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/mi sudo vi /etc/sysconfig/keyboard ... Is Jerry's xs.custom http://lists.laptop.org/**pipermail/server-devel/2013-**June/006510.htmlhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2013-June/006510.html suitable for customizing an XO? Yes. It would apply the changes you describe reasonably easily. Indeed it does work, although I had to add support for the XO-4 HS Touch and XO-4 Touch, I've sent you a patch. Thanks, I now have a USB that re-flashes if you hold down the game keys, reboots, sets the timezone, the language and the keyboard and then prompts the user to press enter to shut down. If you don't hold down the game keys it just does the customization which can be done more than once without damage. Care to share the forth scripting? Remember to have the AC plugged in for the first boot, there maybe a firmware update in the image. I've taken a slightly path using a menu for different operations and install new firmware if present before installing the image. The only wrinkle is that most of the time I have to press enter twice to get it to quit at the end which is hardly worth complaining about but had me stumped for a minute or two the first time. There is a press enter to shutdown routine build into xo-custom are you scripting the reboot question also? Also I had trouble finding the xo-custom thing, so for the record, it's an optional configuration of Tiny Core Linux described at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/**Tiny_Core_Linuxhttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tiny_Core_LinuxYou will have to clone the git repo and build it from scratch to get the xo-custom behavior. I'm going to place the Tiny Core files to be available for download so all you have to add is your own scripting. Do you mind sharing your scripts? I plan on using some examples in creating some better documentation for a how-to. Thanks for testing, Jerry __ OLPC-NZ mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/olpc-nzhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-nz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1(.75)
On Thu, 2013-07-04 at 13:57 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: Tried the following little script but I can not find a way to get the output of 'time' command to the output.txt file. Not really sure what you are trying to do here - sugar-launch will not return until the activity exits. I ran a couple of experiments here, with XO-1s running 12.1.0 and 13.2.0. Clock (which is a GTK2 activity on both versions) does start 0.5 - 1 second slower on 13.2.0. On 12.1.0 it starts in 10.5 seconds. That is approx 5% change. Running under perf, the most noticable difference is that X uses 5% of CPU time on 12.1.0, and 10% on 13.2.0. A 5% change. Of the total available, would that not be a 100% increase in CPU time used by the process running X? Unfortunately perf doesn't tell me which part of X is eating CPU, apart from the fact that it is not in the kernel. Need to figure out why perf can't be more specific. The risk to this work is that we might fix the 5% X issue and see no noticable difference. But I will try to continue a bit of investigation here next week. Jerry Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Hi James, On 17 June 2013 21:55, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 09:20:20PM -0400, George Hunt wrote: I ordered a 64GB SD, and have it in hand. It is formatted with exfat disk format, apparently a Microsoft proprietary standard. There is a driver for exfat, but it is not shipped with the XO, so there was some truth to the hearsay that 64GB SD cards do not work on the XO. BUT . . . I was able to read exfat formatted out of the box transcend 64GB drive on a XO1.5, with a downloaded driver, so I expect that electrical compatibility is already established. It is the protocol compatibility that causes us problems. There's this tiny computer inside the card which has to interoperate with our computer. And from what you describe above, you haven't yet tested the protocol compatibility with Open Firmware. You have to boot from it to test that. I think you will want it to be formatted with ext4, because the OS doesn't run on a FAT formated drive. I should caution that I have read that SD cards have an erase block size that makes it important to preserve the partition location and sizing, as the disk format is being erased and reformatted. If you use the drive for the operating system, there's no need to partition or format, because the fs-update of 13.1.0 .zd file will create all that is required. Just make sure you use the devalias fsdisk ext:0 trick to persuade fs-update to use the external slot. During boot, the operating system may expand the filesystem to cover the rest of the device. I just tried the devalias trick using 13.2.0 as the OS on a XO-4. On initial boot it drops me into dracut appearing to complain about a read-only filesystem while attempting resize. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Best XSCE strategy for us in Pacific with XO-1.5 2GB Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855
Thanks James, On 18 June 2013 00:00, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14:23PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: I just tried the devalias trick using 13.2.0 as the OS on a XO-4. On initial boot it drops me into dracut appearing to complain about a read-only filesystem while attempting resize. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Sure. Check the write protect tab on the card. This was the issue, no matter how careful I was inserting the SD-card the tab would move to locked. I used a dab of instant glue, that was enough to prevent the tab from moving. Thanks a bunch, Jerry Check with another XO-4 in case the socket write protect switch is faulty. Boot into Linux from another boot device, such as the internal eMMC or a Tiny Core Linux on USB drive, then check that you can mount the external SD card for write, and write to it. fs-update does not honour the write protect on an SD card; it is purely an advisory write protect, and Open Firmware doesn't take this advice ... which is an optional feature of the SD specification. [1] (I'm running an XO-4 as a builder with swap on external SD, and it seems to work fine for that.) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Card_security Write-protect notch -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] HOWTO.xs-custom
Hi All: With the recent acceptance of my port of the python's customization routine over to TinyCore I'm attempting document the process and I need some help with that. Here is what I have so far. Build tinycore with --xo-custom, this will enable 4 optional routines When booting the usbkey you will enter a chroot on the target XO and the usbkey will be mounted at /media for all operations below. 1. You will be able to populate /bundles on the usbkey with activities, they will automatically install. 2. If you provide /scripts/asroot you can run commands contained in the file as the root user. 3. If you provide /scripts/asolpc you can run commands contained in the file as the root user. 4. If you provide /scripts/yum.conf, /scripts/yum.cmd, and a configured yum repo then yum gets executed with -y -c pointing to /scripts/yum.conf and /scripts/yum.cmd as the arguments. The yum.conf file would use file:///media/path/to/repo Examples: asroot: - #!/bin/bash cp /media/file /path/on/xo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Central /etc/localtime - asolpc: - #!/bin/bash cp /media/file ~/Documents/ sed -i -e '/replacethis/withthis/' /some/file cat EOF ~/.i18n LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL=en_AU.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB.utf8:en_US.utf8 EOF - yum.cmd: - install xs-config-xo - yum.conf: - [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum keepcache=1 debuglevel=2 exactarch=1 obsoletes=1 gpgcheck=0 plugins=0 installonly_limit=3 # disables /etc/yum.repos.d reposdir=/tmp # keep the log file logfile=/home/olpc/.sugar/default/yum.log # This is the default, if you make this bigger yum won't see if the metadata # is newer on the remote and so you'll gain the bandwidth of not having to # download the new metadata and pay for it by yum not having correct # information. # It is esp. important, to have correct metadata, for distributions like # Fedora which don't keep old packages around. If you don't like this checking # interupting your command line usage, it's much better to have something # manually check the metadata once an hour (yum-updatesd will do this). # metadata_expire=90m # PUT YOUR REPOS HERE OR IN separate files named file.repo # in /etc/yum.repos.d [media.repo] name=flash baseurl=file:///media/xs-repo/armhfp/18/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 gpgkey= - Happy Hacking Any thoughts on how to improve this are welcome. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE links to filesfrom Moodle
On Wed, 2013-06-26 at 14:36 +1000, David Leeming wrote: Hi, With the XS 0.7 we add links to Moodle pages that map to locations in the storage folder /library using aliases and html.conf file I have gone through the exact process as we used to use with the XSCE and all good in the set up, but when I try to access those resources with a connected laptop or authenticated moodle account t it tells me that I don’t have permission to view the folder. A missing step I think... Sounds like you ran into the Access Control Require all granted upgrade issue: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html Jerry David Leeming Solomon Islands 24419 (h) www.rurallink.com.sb ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [OLPC New Zealand] Māori Macrons olpc keyboard
On 24 June 2013 06:43, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Which build are you running? In the latest Sugar builds, there is a keyboard settings control panel section. We could probably backport it to your build if it is reasonably recent. In OLPC's Dextrose's versions of sugar the sugar-cp-keyboard rpm doesn't get installed. Think there is a conflict over the keyboard with olpc-configure supplied by olpc-utils. Jerry Meanwhile, we may have to make a new X keyboard symbols file for you that does the right thing. Not impossible to get upstreamed. regards. -walter On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Hi, I'm looking at how you enter a macron for Māori language users. It seems that the olpc us international keyboard binds a ̄ COMBINING MACRON (unicode U+0304) to algr + hyphan. When typed after the letter a you get ā which is similar to but not the same as ā LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH MACRON (unicode U+0101). Issues I've noted with a small amount of testing: On older builds, Write does not correctly load files containing the combining macron. The combining macron is not rendered at the correct height for lower case letters. (on older builds this seems to be the case all the time, on newer builds, it is rendered correctly after loading a file until you delete a following character the on the same line, then it jumps up) You can have more than one combining macron, they stack. You have to delete twice, once to delete the macron and again to delete the character. Have these issues come up before? I don't see any. I will raise tickets for the bugs rendering the macron in the latest version of write shortly. I'm not sure if anyone wants a ticket for older builds? Obviously stacking macrons is by-design when using the combining macron character (see https://twitter.com/glitchr_/ for more improbable outcomes of combining characters, perhaps your browser will crash). I haven't yet experimented with entering the ā U+0101 characters into sugar (tomorrow!) Apparently on Windows, the Māori keyboard is set up such that when you hit the grave (apparently this is what I have always called the backtick) key and then one of the vowels, you get the macron version of the vowel. I haven't seen this in action but Māori typists claim it is very efficient. Gnome on Ubuntu on my laptop binds right-alt-a to ā U+0101 when using the Māori keyboard layout. I'm not sure how Maori typists feel about this inconsistency with windows. When you choose the language in sugar, can this change the keyboard layout too? If not, what is the recommended way to configure this? How complex is it to change the localization of the keyboard for the Maori language? The xkb files don't look too complicated. Is the grave - vowel = macron vowel possible while still preserving the backtick for shell scripting? I haven't seen the laptops in question but I'm told they have the Australian simplified key caps, so changing the existing alt-gr mappings to render macron vowels (ie to mimic the Maori keyboard option on Gnome-Ubuntu) instead of the existing mappings won't confuse the key caps. Obviously touching all the laptops to change how the keyboard works is a pain and the change is potentially erased by future updates. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ OLPC-NZ mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-nz ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] ANNOUNCEMENT XSCE 0.3 Final Release
On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 21:16 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 05:26:37AM -0400, George Hunt wrote: It's my understanding that 32GB cards work, but that 64GB cards do not (hearsay, and not direct personal experience). Think you ran across this issue before: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036017.html I'm interested in working with anyone who has one, in order to diagnose and fix this. Let me know. Think this has been corrected: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12216 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Install Firefox
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 14:29 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: It was reading repository information from file:///root/local but packages were not installed. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 11:14 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Adding fedora=fedora_update and rebuilding didn't work. Jerry, As you suggested it installed all the required newer firefox,xulrunner and nss... packages but the resulting image couldn't boot the XO. Now I am going for your second suggestion. I have created a local repo for firefox, xulrunner and other dependencies( 9 altogether) . Could you please check if the entries are right? Well I'm surprised that I'm the only one to answer this, I gave the others ample time to respond. yes, looks like no one takes pride on answering simple questions ;) /root/local/.repo Where did you download the rpms to? Was it /root/local/? Did you run createrepo /root/local/? yes to /root/local/ and I have done createrepo. -- [local] name=firefox-xulrunner local baseurl=file:///root/local/ gpgcheck=0 enabled=1 -- I don't understand, what are you doing with the above code? olpc-os-12.1.0-xo1.75.ini Right below [repos] section -- [custom_repo] local=1,firefox,file:///root/local/ -- No, don't do that, you have to use the OOB method of naming the repos in [repos]. I was following this documentation http://cainmanor.com/tech/build-a-custom-repository-for-centos/ and they had this extra step to create .repo file. so . [repos] fedora_arch=i386 olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-i686 olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-i686-updates-12.1.0 olpc_frozen_3=1,local.12.1.0 olpc_frozen_4=1,local.12.1.0-xo1.5 custom_repo_1=0,firefox,file:///root/local/ add_excludes_to=koji.dist-f17-i686,koji.dist-f17-i686-updates-12.1.0 When you run osbuilder.py, early into the routine you can see the repos being contacted, check to see if your new one is being used or there is an error present. The repo seems to be working now it is retrieving packages form local repo. Thanks Jerry you have been a great help for me. Well it was trying to retrieving from file://root/local but it didn't install any package. Wonder what is wrong. Just like you used yum to install firefox in the field, did you ask OOB to install firefox? In your ini file you need
Re: Install Firefox
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 11:14 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Adding fedora=fedora_update and rebuilding didn't work. Jerry, As you suggested it installed all the required newer firefox,xulrunner and nss... packages but the resulting image couldn't boot the XO. Now I am going for your second suggestion. I have created a local repo for firefox, xulrunner and other dependencies( 9 altogether) . Could you please check if the entries are right? Well I'm surprised that I'm the only one to answer this, I gave the others ample time to respond. /root/local/.repo Where did you download the rpms to? Was it /root/local/? Did you run createrepo /root/local/? -- [local] name=firefox-xulrunner local baseurl=file:///root/local/ gpgcheck=0 enabled=1 -- I don't understand, what are you doing with the above code? olpc-os-12.1.0-xo1.75.ini Right below [repos] section -- [custom_repo] local=1,firefox,file:///root/local/ -- No, don't do that, you have to use the OOB method of naming the repos in [repos]. [repos] fedora_arch=i386 olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-i686 olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-i686-updates-12.1.0 olpc_frozen_3=1,local.12.1.0 olpc_frozen_4=1,local.12.1.0-xo1.5 custom_repo_1=0,firefox,file:///root/local/ add_excludes_to=koji.dist-f17-i686,koji.dist-f17-i686-updates-12.1.0 When you run osbuilder.py, early into the routine you can see the repos being contacted, check to see if your new one is being used or there is an error present. Jerry On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:37 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:22 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. Ah yes, you are right, the latest available versions on koji are matching (v17) and built OK. I didn't spot them in the mass of failed builds. So the Fedora situation is OK. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Don't worry, these are not the koji repos you are thinking of. They are OLPC's frozen versions of fedora repos from the release's freeze date and are not directly from koji - really we should change the naming scheme. And this is the cause of the problem - upon release freeze date, the firefox/xulrunner situation was in inconsistent state; this problem has been frozen in our repos. Basanta, I would advise against adding the official fedora-updates repo into your build as has been suggested in this thread - while this will result in a well matched firefox/xulrunner combination, it will bring in a lot of untested package updates that were not part of the release and have probably not been tested on OLPC XO. That is why later in the thread I suggested to download what yum installed on the XO, then create and use a custom repo for OOB. Instead, create a local repo with these 2 packages and add it to your build config: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=109570 http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=116355 It will need newer nss*/nspr builds too. Peter Jerry -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Install Firefox
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:14 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: # yum install firefox on XO actually downloaded new set of packages listed below and firefox now works (1/9): firefox-17.0.1-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 25 MB 05:27 (2/9): nspr-4.9.6-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 94 kB 00:02 (3/9): nss-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 640 kB 00:17 (4/9): nss-softokn-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 210 kB 00:04 (5/9): nss-softokn-freebl-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 130 kB 00:01 (6/9): nss-sysinit-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 39 kB 00:00 (7/9): nss-tools-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 325 kB 00:04 (8/9): nss-util-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 53 kB 00:01 (9/9): xulrunner-17.0.1-3.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 12 MB 02:29 Now, as a solution I am planning to reside these packages on the build system and have olpc-os-builder install these packages during build time. I do I accomplish this? Try enabling the fedora-updates repo in OOB, add to your repo definition above the olpc_frozen definition: fedora=fedora-updates After the build check the *package.txt file in build/output to confirm what was installed and maybe do a diff between an older build to gauge what else was changed. Jerry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 06:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Please check my repo list at this configuration file. http://pastebin.ca/2384881 and xulrunner and firefox version xulrunner-13.0-1.fc17.armv7vl firefox-12.0-1.fc17.armv7hl Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Peter Thought that was the official way of using OOB once the release enters the frozen state. Please advise. Jerry Thank you. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 08:08 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Adding firefox did install firefox but gave following error while trying to execute on XO: $ firefox Error: Platform version '13.0' is not compatible with minVersion = 12.0 maxVersion = 12.0 - Hi Basanta, Think this has something to do with firefox wanting a specific xulrunner version. Can you confirm what version is installed with: rpm -q xulrunner. I have a workaround that I used with F14 that should still work with this situation. Which repos are enabled in olpc-so-builder when you generate the image? Jerry Looks like an incompatibility with xulrunner, which hasn't been successfully built on F17 in a while: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10131 Maybe Peter has some comments. You could try an older version of firefox to match the latest (old) version of xulrunner available. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org
Re: Install Firefox
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 01:50 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:14 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: # yum install firefox on XO actually downloaded new set of packages listed below and firefox now works (1/9): firefox-17.0.1-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 25 MB 05:27 (2/9): nspr-4.9.6-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 94 kB 00:02 (3/9): nss-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 640 kB 00:17 (4/9): nss-softokn-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 210 kB 00:04 (5/9): nss-softokn-freebl-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 130 kB 00:01 (6/9): nss-sysinit-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 39 kB 00:00 (7/9): nss-tools-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 325 kB 00:04 (8/9): nss-util-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 53 kB 00:01 (9/9): xulrunner-17.0.1-3.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 12 MB 02:29 Now, as a solution I am planning to reside these packages on the build system and have olpc-os-builder install these packages during build time. I do I accomplish this? Try enabling the fedora-updates repo in OOB, add to your repo definition above the olpc_frozen definition: fedora=fedora-updates After the build check the *package.txt file in build/output to confirm what was installed and maybe do a diff between an older build to gauge what else was changed. Jerry Or you can download those rpms and use a custom repo definition in OOB to have tighter control over what goes into the image. Jerry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 06:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Please check my repo list at this configuration file. http://pastebin.ca/2384881 and xulrunner and firefox version xulrunner-13.0-1.fc17.armv7vl firefox-12.0-1.fc17.armv7hl Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Peter Thought that was the official way of using OOB once the release enters the frozen state. Please advise. Jerry Thank you. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 08:08 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Adding firefox did install firefox but gave following error while trying to execute on XO: $ firefox Error: Platform version '13.0' is not compatible with minVersion = 12.0 maxVersion = 12.0 - Hi Basanta, Think this has something to do with firefox wanting a specific xulrunner version. Can you confirm what version is installed with: rpm -q xulrunner. I have a workaround that I used with F14 that should still work with this situation. Which repos are enabled in olpc-so-builder when you generate the image? Jerry Looks like an incompatibility with xulrunner, which hasn't been successfully built on F17 in a while: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10131 Maybe Peter has some comments. You could try an older version of firefox to match the latest (old) version of xulrunner available. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel
Re: Install Firefox
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 01:56 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 01:50 -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:14 +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: # yum install firefox on XO actually downloaded new set of packages listed below and firefox now works (1/9): firefox-17.0.1-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 25 MB 05:27 (2/9): nspr-4.9.6-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 94 kB 00:02 (3/9): nss-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 640 kB 00:17 (4/9): nss-softokn-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 210 kB 00:04 (5/9): nss-softokn-freebl-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 130 kB 00:01 (6/9): nss-sysinit-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 39 kB 00:00 (7/9): nss-tools-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 325 kB 00:04 (8/9): nss-util-3.14.3-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 53 kB 00:01 (9/9): xulrunner-17.0.1-3.fc17.armv7hl.rpm | 12 MB 02:29 Now, as a solution I am planning to reside these packages on the build system and have olpc-os-builder install these packages during build time. I do I accomplish this? Try enabling the fedora-updates repo in OOB, add to your repo definition above the olpc_frozen definition: fedora=fedora-updates After the build check the *package.txt file in build/output to confirm what was installed and maybe do a diff between an older build to gauge what else was changed. Jerry Or you can download those rpms and use a custom repo definition in OOB to have tighter control over what goes into the image. Once you have the rpms downloaded and you have run createrepo against the directory containing the rpms, add the custom repo definition to your config file but change the path to suit your machine: custom_repo_1=1,firefox,file:///some/path/to/repo/ Ensure you have file:/// in path string. Jerry Jerry On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 06:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Please check my repo list at this configuration file. http://pastebin.ca/2384881 and xulrunner and firefox version xulrunner-13.0-1.fc17.armv7vl firefox-12.0-1.fc17.armv7hl Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Peter Thought that was the official way of using OOB once the release enters the frozen state. Please advise. Jerry Thank you. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 08:08 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Adding firefox did install firefox but gave following error while trying to execute on XO: $ firefox Error: Platform version '13.0' is not compatible with minVersion = 12.0 maxVersion = 12.0 - Hi Basanta, Think this has something to do with firefox wanting a specific xulrunner version. Can you confirm what version is installed with: rpm -q xulrunner. I have a workaround that I used with F14 that should still work with this situation. Which repos are enabled in olpc-so-builder when you generate the image? Jerry Looks like an incompatibility with xulrunner, which hasn't been successfully built on F17 in a while: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10131 Maybe Peter has some comments. You could try an older version of firefox to match
Re: Install Firefox
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 15:22 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. Ah yes, you are right, the latest available versions on koji are matching (v17) and built OK. I didn't spot them in the mass of failed builds. So the Fedora situation is OK. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Don't worry, these are not the koji repos you are thinking of. They are OLPC's frozen versions of fedora repos from the release's freeze date and are not directly from koji - really we should change the naming scheme. And this is the cause of the problem - upon release freeze date, the firefox/xulrunner situation was in inconsistent state; this problem has been frozen in our repos. Basanta, I would advise against adding the official fedora-updates repo into your build as has been suggested in this thread - while this will result in a well matched firefox/xulrunner combination, it will bring in a lot of untested package updates that were not part of the release and have probably not been tested on OLPC XO. That is why later in the thread I suggested to download what yum installed on the XO, then create and use a custom repo for OOB. Instead, create a local repo with these 2 packages and add it to your build config: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=109570 http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=116355 It will need newer nss*/nspr builds too. Peter Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Install Firefox
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 08:08 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Adding firefox did install firefox but gave following error while trying to execute on XO: $ firefox Error: Platform version '13.0' is not compatible with minVersion = 12.0 maxVersion = 12.0 - Hi Basanta, Think this has something to do with firefox wanting a specific xulrunner version. Can you confirm what version is installed with: rpm -q xulrunner. I have a workaround that I used with F14 that should still work with this situation. Which repos are enabled in olpc-so-builder when you generate the image? Jerry Looks like an incompatibility with xulrunner, which hasn't been successfully built on F17 in a while: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10131 Maybe Peter has some comments. You could try an older version of firefox to match the latest (old) version of xulrunner available. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Install Firefox
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 06:50 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Please check my repo list at this configuration file. http://pastebin.ca/2384881 and xulrunner and firefox version xulrunner-13.0-1.fc17.armv7vl firefox-12.0-1.fc17.armv7hl Firefox and xulrunner 17 are the late known good (and matching) builds for Fedora 17, you need the major versions to be matching (so 12/13/17) but if you were pulling in all the latest stable updates into the build you would have matching ones AFAICT from koji so there's some other issue. I'm not sure what the following lines translate to but you should never use the koji repositories as repos as they contain all sorts of randomly tagged bits that the release repos don't. olpc_frozen_1=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl olpc_frozen_2=0,koji.dist-f17-armv7hl-updates-12.1.0 Peter Thought that was the official way of using OOB once the release enters the frozen state. Please advise. Jerry Thank you. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 08:08 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Adding firefox did install firefox but gave following error while trying to execute on XO: $ firefox Error: Platform version '13.0' is not compatible with minVersion = 12.0 maxVersion = 12.0 - Hi Basanta, Think this has something to do with firefox wanting a specific xulrunner version. Can you confirm what version is installed with: rpm -q xulrunner. I have a workaround that I used with F14 that should still work with this situation. Which repos are enabled in olpc-so-builder when you generate the image? Jerry Looks like an incompatibility with xulrunner, which hasn't been successfully built on F17 in a while: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10131 Maybe Peter has some comments. You could try an older version of firefox to match the latest (old) version of xulrunner available. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Basanta Shrestha Network Engineer Open Learning Exchange (OLE) Nepal Tel: +977.1.551, 5520075 Ext. 303 Cell: +977.9818 605110 http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:03 -0500, David Farning wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies to provide power for the server and the AP... my eyes start to tear up:( Is the inverter really needed for a XO? The step-down transformer used on the XO puts out 13.5v but the XOs only need 11 volts to charge[1]. Therefore I believe you could run and/or charge the XOs directly from a 12v source like a storage battery, perhaps though a regulator. I just don't want to cut the cord off of a working power supply to find out. The situation I am looking at has power part of the day so we can recharge the battery. To keep things simple we would like to use a Trimslice or XO-4 and off the shelf AP. Most of the networking devices use a transformer also but with perhaps a different voltage rating, with a regulator that takes 12 DC in we can output the voltage needed for the lower (12v) voltage DC devices. If they run on usb power or 12v dc this should be do-able. Ideally we would like to have 'kit' that contained everything except that battery that can be set up and tested before arriving at the deployment. Thanks Recharging the storage battery is limited by the means that are available to recharge the storage battery perhaps via solar or wind, and is the related to the issue of how many XOs are in use that need charging. Jerry 1. http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=Battery_and_power -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] 12 Volt power system for School Servers.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 15:42 -0500, David Farning wrote: The piece I am looking at is reducing the losses between the battery and the server/AP. See my earlier response. Several systems have a 12V Battery which is inverted to 120AC which is then transformed back to low voltage DC for input to the server/AP. That doesn't seem very efficient. +1 Jerry Dave On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: Tony could you share more information about your work on 12 Volt power supplies for School Servers? Whenever I see a School Server setup containing a 12V Battery, an inverter, a power strip, and a couple of 120V to 12V power supplies to provide power for the server and the AP... my eyes start to tear up:( The situation I am looking at has power part of the day so we can recharge the battery. To keep things simple we would like to use a Trimslice or XO-4 and off the shelf AP. Ideally we would like to have 'kit' that contained everything except that battery that can be set up and tested before arriving at the deployment. Thanks -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel What about an off-the-shelf SoHo UPS unit? cheers, Sameer -- David Farning Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Latest build (34) for testing
Hi Folks, Hot off the press is the latest edition of XO-system-1 (build 34) based on OLPC's 13.2.0-7 http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/candidate/13.2.0-7/for the XO-duo(-4) is available at http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/32034oe-XO4. Upstream release noteshttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037252.htmlon the latest hardware support issues resolved, but with the very latest kernel (kernel-3.5.7_xo4-20130523.1701.olpc.36da52f.armv7hl) already installed. Power management is enabled for this build. There are updated versions of Maze and Memorise to test long with the latest version of TurtleBlocks available with the Australian plug-in pre-installed. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Latest build for evaluation
On 16 May 2013 00:59, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 15 May 2013 22:02, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Hi Folks, Soon to be hot off the press is the latest edition of XO-system-1 (build 31) based on OLPC's 13.2.0-6 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os6/xo-4/for the XO-duo(-4) will be available at http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/output.32030OE4-XO-4/ shortly. I'll post an update when it's ready, stay tuned. Sorry folks, this will be delayed for a little bit. HI again, We are ready to rock roll now with build 32, the new url is http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/32032OE4-XO-4/ The optional activities are now included by default, we may release others for testing. I will make an announcement should anything new become available via the activity updater. thanks for your patience, Jerry Jerry Upstream release noteshttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037203.htmlon the latest hardware support issues resolved, but without having to upgrade the kernel with yumhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037204.html . Power management is enabled for this build. The latest version of Write (89) didn't make the image but is available via activity updater. Upstream release noteshttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-May/043003.html There are updates to Paint and FotoToon in the activity updater but have not passed though our QA process yet, but your welcome to help test. There is also a later version of TurtleBlocks available for testing in the activity updater but will be lacking the Australian plug-in. In other new the release schedule for OLPC's 13.2.0 has been announcedhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037205.html . Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Latest build for evaluation
Hi Folks, Soon to be hot off the press is the latest edition of XO-system-1 (build 31) based on OLPC's 13.2.0-6 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os6/xo-4/ for the XO-duo(-4) will be available at http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/output.32030OE4-XO-4/ shortly. I'll post an update when it's ready, stay tuned. Upstream release noteshttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037203.htmlon the latest hardware support issues resolved, but without having to upgrade the kernel with yumhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037204.html . Power management is enabled for this build. The latest version of Write (89) didn't make the image but is available via activity updater. Upstream release noteshttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-May/043003.html There are updates to Paint and FotoToon in the activity updater but have not passed though our QA process yet, but your welcome to help test. There is also a later version of TurtleBlocks available for testing in the activity updater but will be lacking the Australian plug-in. In other new the release schedule for OLPC's 13.2.0 has been announcedhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037205.html . Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Latest build for evaluation
On 15 May 2013 22:02, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Hi Folks, Soon to be hot off the press is the latest edition of XO-system-1 (build 31) based on OLPC's 13.2.0-6 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os6/xo-4/for the XO-duo(-4) will be available at http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/output.32030OE4-XO-4/ shortly. I'll post an update when it's ready, stay tuned. Sorry folks, this will be delayed for a little bit. Jerry Upstream release noteshttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037203.htmlon the latest hardware support issues resolved, but without having to upgrade the kernel with yumhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037204.html . Power management is enabled for this build. The latest version of Write (89) didn't make the image but is available via activity updater. Upstream release noteshttp://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-May/043003.html There are updates to Paint and FotoToon in the activity updater but have not passed though our QA process yet, but your welcome to help test. There is also a later version of TurtleBlocks available for testing in the activity updater but will be lacking the Australian plug-in. In other new the release schedule for OLPC's 13.2.0 has been announcedhttp://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/037205.html . Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 12:58 -0700, Braddock wrote: On 05/11/2013 12:44 PM, Holt wrote: Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive attached to an XO? Further detail on the trouble drive. This is a 1TB Seagate Wireless Plus connected via USB. It mounts correctly when the XO is booted, but if it is connected when the XO is powered on or rebooted, the XO drops to a firmware OK prompt. I wonder if it could be because the first partition has a boot flag set? # fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204885504 bytes, 1953525167 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x6f44561a Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *2048 8193149 40955517 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT /dev/sda2 8193150 1953520064 972663457+ 83 Linux With James' earlier comment about OFW booting a partition that has been flagged as bootable, perhaps setting the second partition as bootable will correct this issue. Jerry Another volunteer has an external USB drive here which DOES work correctly. Thanks, Braddock Gaskill At our XS Community Sprint this week outside Toronto, we've been unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s) containing very polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving the screen at the OK prompt. FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of: * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most all images * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all zoom levels for fast display * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+ books, images * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc Does firmware currently block the mounting of all large USB drives -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems? Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers in Haiti (etc!) can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free content? Cheers! -- Help kids everywhere map their world, at http://olpcMAP.net ! ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Boot time shell script on USB
On Wed, 2013-03-27 at 17:51 +1000, T Gillett wrote: Hi All I am seeking some advice as a novice in the XO space. I would like to run a shell script (to do some configuration changes and install some additional packages) when an XO is started with a USB memory stick installed with the script on board. The idea is that users in the field can be given a USB stick containing the latest release which they can instal in the normal manner, then at a subsequent boot up, the script on the USB will run and configure the XO to just the way we want it. The idea is that this will provide a simple way to do upgrades and reconfiguration in the field. At present we have to ask users to start up a terminal session and run the script from the command line. This works just fine to set up the XO, but we would like to remove the need for the terminal session for obvious reasons. My question is whether there is a simple way to do this already built in to the system. I am aware of the recent discussion around using the Forth file at start up, but I don't think that will work for what I want as the operating system needs to be up to do the package installs etc that we want. Any suggestions appreciated. Well I brought this up awhile ago[1], I hacked up dracut-modules-olpc, where the customization key's initrd code runs it's magic, to add some of that that functionality. There was some resistance so I've gone it alone. I've refined the code since to add the ability to run scripts also[2]. Let me know if your interested, should work on i386 up to 12.1.0 haven't tested on 13.1(need to compile). On a side note if anybody knows why I can't see what going on after the initrd loads on ARM I'd be thankful for any pointers. Jerry 1 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2011-May/031901.html 2 http://sugardextrose.org/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/master/show/dracut ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Auckland Testing Summary 23 March 2013
On Mon, 2013-03-25 at 22:19 -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/25/2013 02:03 PM, Richard Smith wrote: Battery life on XO-4 C2 seems significantly improved over previous builds. We would be interested in a confirmation or otherwise of this in the power log analysis. I guess you are comparing to 13.1.0 build 36? The big difference here is that 13.1.0 build 36 has automatic power management disabled, it is now enabled in 13.2.0 (not 100% stable just yet, but we continue to shake out the bugs). Its probably the firmware change rather than a build specific change. We turned off unused cores and in q7b23 and that made almost 800mW worth of difference across the board in operational power draw. I'll do a plot of your power logs though and confirm. It appears there is considerable difference between your previous tests and now. Last round of logs I have from you prior to this one was March 2nd and prior to that was November 15, 2012 is that correct or did I miss a batch between November and March? Here's a ploy of XO-4 only 13.1.0-32 vs 13.2.0-1 all your other XO-4 13.1.0 builds I have were very early and not really interesting from a power standpoint. http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/auckland_13.1_vs_13.2.png Your peak decreased which I believe is from your firmware upgrade but does not explain the whole story. A closer look at your log file shows a much, much higher suspend frequency in 13.2. In your 13.1 tests you had perhaps 1 or 2 suspends whereas in the 13.2 log files almost every other line is a suspend event. You didn't change your testing procedure did you? Something that would allow for more idleness? I was seeing high cpu usage that was present preventing suspend with earlier builds. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: OS Builder output img ?
On Sun, 2013-03-24 at 21:33 +0100, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Ok. I’ve done it. Is it possible to have an auto install? i.e. without need to type command from the prompt. Yes, you would need to have your security keys installed in the XOs, but that is difficult when the XO's have security enabled. You need a key injector signed by OLPC to be able to install your deployment key that you used to sign the image/firmware. Jerry Lionel. De : Samuel Greenfeld [mailto:greenf...@laptop.org] Envoyé : dimanche 24 mars 2013 14:40 À : lio...@olpc-france.org Cc : devel@lists.laptop.org Objet : Re: OS Builder output img ? The fs0.zip file would only appear if you configured everything to make a signed build. You would only be able to make a signed build if you had a copy of the private keys for the deployment you are making the signed build for. Only OLPC has the keys to make a signed build that pretty much any XO-1 will accept. The .crc and .img files, when copied to USB, etc., are enough to install the image on a unlocked XO-1 with a command like copy-nand u: \21007xx0.img from the ok Open Firmware prompt (available if you press the ESC/(X) key while the startup sound plays on unlocked units). ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Customize default language with OS Builder
On Sun, 2013-03-24 at 23:02 +0100, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I’ve seen that the « langs= » property in the .ini for OS Builder allow to choose the language sets installed on the image. I wonder if there is a way to specify the default language (FR instead of EN for example). Do I need to use a custom script for that? Yes, sugar reads ~/.i18n for the language list in cp-languages. You could do something like: cat EOF /home/olpc/.i18n LANGUAGE=en_GB.utf8:en_US.utf8 EOF This will only work if olpc-utils version 3.0.3 or later is used in the image, prior versions deleted .i18n when first booted. Jerry Thanks in advance for your answer. Lionel. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Changing the Favorite Activities
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 13:52 +1000, T Gillett wrote: Hi I would like to be able to change the set of activities shown in the ring of the home view via a script in order to set up a batch of XO-1 and XO-1.5 devices. Previously this was possible by changing the file /home/olpc/.sugar/default.favorite_activities However in the current stable release this no longer works. If the file is changed, it is replaced with the default list on restart. Is there another mechanism available to achieve this in the current release? Thanks in advance. Think the file you want is: /usr/share/sugar/data/activities.defaults Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Kernel RPMs now auto-install to boot partition
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 08:46 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, Found some time to implement something that has been desired for a while: now when you install a kernel RPM on the XO, it will additionally auto-install to the boot partition, so now you can just install a new kernel RPM with rpm/yum and reboot and expect it to be used, no additional steps needed. The root of this strange behaviour (installing kernels twice) is due to the design of the update system, there might be room to improve on this in future as well, but at least this detail will now be less annoying to developers. +1 Thank you, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 09:22 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: Hello: I ran into a few problems when trying to install the XSCE 0.2. I downloaded the repo and installed, during the installation process i got this messages, but apparently everything was installed correctly. http://pastebin.com/srwDn6wX That's part of the rpm, the %post scriptlet is calling xs-setup --upgrade-only and the xs-setup exits at that point. I'm running in a HP DV4 laptop with Fedora 17 (security spin, i'm downloading the std version), it's connected to the internet with the wi-fi, and during xs-setup, connection is lost for some time (20-30 secs aprox), it stops and starts Networkmanager apparently, but is long enough for the script to fail at downloading the required software, and installation fails. I think is during xs-setup-network That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. http://pastebin.com/7YTFHLL7 I'll be poking around to see if I can connect to internet with a cable, or pehaps give it a sleep to the script before downloading, if you could point me into wich file should i change. cheers I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: http://build.activitycentral.com/xsce.repo Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:05 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: I downloaded the RPM, installed using yum and didn' t ask for any dependencies. ran xs-setup and it failed, it did restarted the Network and waited for a bit, but later it just failed, didn' t try to download anything http://pastebin.com/vdgfuHtY Think we have an undeclared dependency on the rpm package 'hostname', which may not be installed, can you check for that rpm package with 'rpm -q hostname' please. Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 - Network problems running xs-setup
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:47 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: It's installed hostname-3.10-1.fc17.i686 The only difference I can see is you are using sudo while I used su before running xs-setup but I don't think that is an issue but might be. Now that is strange, why would your installation not find the executable, wait it does but the value returned is bad. Is the file /etc/hostname present if so what is the contents? Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 11:05 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: I downloaded the RPM, installed using yum and didn' t ask for any dependencies. ran xs-setup and it failed, it did restarted the Network and waited for a bit, but later it just failed, didn' t try to download anything http://pastebin.com/vdgfuHtY Think we have an undeclared dependency on the rpm package 'hostname', which may not be installed, can you check for that rpm package with 'rpm -q hostname' please. Jerry 2013/3/22 Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 10:24 -0300, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote: That time to restart NM seems excessive, but we need to cover that situation. What would you time is a safe amount of time to wait before bailing out of the install? I'm thinking 2 minutes. It takes some time because the conection is wi-fi and it takes a long time to negotiate the conection, the is restored a couple seconds before the scripts exists. The ideal would be to check if connection is up and then continue, with a simple ping to the previously found gateway should work and timeout after 2 minutes or so. DHCP servers on most routers are fast enough for that window of time with cable connections, but wireless could take a while. 2 minutes is more than enough. I have some revisions related to that in the testing repo, could you start the next install with the testing repo enabled: I have to enable testing and upgrade the xs-cofig package? or is there a specific package that needs to be downloaded? We haven't updated the stable repo yet, the latest testing rpm is at: http://build.activitycentral.com/xs-repo/RPMS/noarch/?C=M;O=D You can then install the latest by hand with rpm if you wish. You will still need to have the repo file present to be able to install other packages. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 14:33 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:30 AM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: I used the testing repo. Installation, registration and access went well on my XO 1.75. Interesting. So I wonder whats up with my setup. I'm slightly different in that I'm not using a AP rather I have a USB network adapter in the client XO and I'm connecting directly to the USB adapter on the XS. That places 2 network adaptors on the client XO and might interfere with name resolution, just want to be sure what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are. Can you post that info and maybe the output of route -n from the XO client please? The network functions fine it just won't register. We saw this once while testing, and has come up on the mailing list before, it appears that registration fails if the XS doesn't have a live internet connection(even with the XS-0.7). Does this new XS really have internet access? Same setup works if I connect to a 0.7 XS and if I nmap the 0.7 XS I see that port 8080 is open. I can see via netstat -nat that 8080 is open on the XS On the client XO please install nmap sudo yum -y install nmap and then sudo nmap schoolserver (assuming you took the default domain) and post the results. I'm curious if you have something on 8080. My XO's using the build-in wifi for access to the XS can register without any issues. Lets see what's up with the add-on network adaptor setup. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 12:54 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Richard Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Dunno. Where do I look for the version? rpm -q xs-config 0.8.2.100.18.g8895685-1 Thanks for the great feedback. I tried a 2nd install on a XO-1.5 I had and received exactly the same results. (Without the MN tag problem). The install appeared to go smoothly. ejabberd claimed it could not start up. There is an issue with ejabberd for XO-1.0/1.5s, I patched ejabberd with dsd's pubsub patch but rolled the rpm on ARM only, just need to find time to re-compile the source rpm on i386 and x86-64 and make it available in the yum repo. Reboot and the same httpd problem with pathagar exists. This is should now be fixed. Fixing that still does not correct the registration problem. There was a strange issue when parsing /domain_config.d/, I wrongly assumed that dhclient, where the hostname is being set, would run first based on the filename. This has been resolved. Running tcpdump on the exchange shows that the request to the webcache port is responded to with a RST. Nmap the sever and there's nothing running on port 8080. That most likely was a result of the above hostname failure. So whatever is supposed to be servicing that didn't happen. Other services look ok. ssh, dns, http are up, squid is up on 3128, xmpp on 5222 and 5280 and presence is on 5298. Identical behavior on the 1.75 server install. So I'd say either all my machines are broken somehow or there's been a regression. I'm going to bail and use XS .7 for my dev purposes as this yak is starting to get hairy. I can still run some diagnostics on the machines if you find you can't duplicate the failure and want more info. If you would be so brave to try the latest rpm, please start with the testing enabled repo[1]. I've also discovered that the terminal command prompt appears to have broken line wrapping. If you type really long lines in the terminal activity it will wrap back to the beginning of the same line rather than the next line. The command still works but it makes it difficult to review things when you look at history. This alteration has been removed. Hope this helps. It does, thanks. Jerry 1. http://build.activitycentral.com/xsce.repo ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Puppet
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 12:20 -0400, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Daniel Drake implemented Puppet for XS-0.7 (it is included in the services.). Tony I believe the rpm is installed but the service is left disabled as there would need to be some configuration needed to be preformed before rolling out. Jerry On 03/19/2013 12:00 PM, server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org wrote: Send Server-devel mailing list submissions to server-devel@lists.laptop.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to server-devel-requ...@lists.laptop.org You can reach the person managing the list at server-devel-ow...@lists.laptop.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Server-devel digest... Today's Topics: 1. puppet (Tim Moody) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:17:49 -0400 From: Tim Moody timmo...@sympatico.ca To: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Server-devel] puppet Message-ID: blu0-smtp101a74e0dcd71752749e23cb1...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Over the years there have been a number of expressions of interest in puppet. Are there any modules out there for actual XS services? I know about http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/puppet-example/tree/, which has some manifests. -- ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel End of Server-devel Digest, Vol 71, Issue 14 . ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 14:33 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: I want to try and make some tweaks to the ds_backup so I need a working school server. I grabbed a random XO 1.75 I had with 12.1.0-21 installed and tried to install XSCE 0.2.1 but I was not successful in getting a working config. After installing xs-config-xo and runnign bootstrap-xo I received the message Not an XO pleasea run 'xs-config' So I did. xs-config: command not found. Searching for xs-config in the xs-config-xo package with rpm -ql I find that xs-config is not in that that package so I took a look at bootstrap-xo to see why it was unhappy. It was unhappy because I have a bastard machine and I have no MN manufacturing tag. :) Yea, that would cause the script to exit with a warning. However, looking at script I would recommnd that rather than read the mfg tags directly you try to source /usr/share/olpc-utils/olpc-utils-functions and use the facilties of that script. There are functions that will let you read mfg tags in an XO generation independent way and functions that will let you determine what XO generation you are using. Thanks for the tip, I'll have a look at what is available. I noticed several occurrences of error messages the debug output of xs-setup a message of: /usr/bin/xs-setup-functions: line 242: [: missing ']' You may want to start using [[ ]] rather than [ ] for tests as [[ ]] is much more tolerant and supports several enhancements over [ ] Nice to know thanks for the pointer. The rest of the installation appears to have gone ok except that ejabberd didn't seem to start up. The message was Failed RPC connection to the note ejabberd@schoolserver: nodedown That might be a result of bootstrap-x0 not running, we change the host name there to be schoolserver. On reboot various ejabber things seems to be running so perhaps that was expected. I'd think ejabberd would be running with the hostname that was configured at install time. If I go to a root shell I don't get an expected # in my prompt. The difference between olpc@ and root@ is hard to notice. I'd like to see a # added when you are root. That can be doable. Because I don't have a full deployment infra setup I ran into this http://sugardextrose.org/issues/2685 . Also nothing in the instructions indicate that when you set up a local AP for the XO lan you have to disable any dhcpd server that might be running on the AP. Obvious to me but perhaps not obvious to others and multiple dhcp servers can be a bitch to debug. Think we'll need to have a general howto on setting up the whole local lan in the future. Trying to register the XSCE with itself fails. Can't connect to the server Can't find schoolserver, related to the above failure to change the hostname. Trying to register a client XO to the schoolsever fails as well. The IP the the client received looks good. I can ping schoolserver and schoolserver.local and browsing the Internet works. Trying to browse to http://schoolserver or schoolserver.local dosen't work. Nmaping the server with my laptop shows that nothing is running on port 80. There's nothing in /var/log/httpd but systemctrl status httpd.service indicates there were startup errors and looking in /var/log/messages I find that httpd is choking on line 9 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf which is: Odd that should of been disabled in the base install, which version of xs-config is installed? PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython rpm -q django shows its not installed so I tried yum -y install django but no dice. Still won't start up. Ideas? I've run out of time for now to try and sort this out. I'd just rename /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf and retrying to restart apache as a quick fix. Jerry Cheers. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] My Observations and experiences with XSCE 0.2.1
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 19:10 -0400, Richard Smith wrote: Odd that should of been disabled in the base install, which version of xs-config is installed? Dunno. Where do I look for the version? rpm -q xs-config PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython rpm -q django shows its not installed so I tried yum -y install django but no dice. Still won't start up. Ideas? I've run out of time for now to try and sort this out. I'd just rename /etc/httpd/conf.d/pathagar.conf and retrying to restart apache as a quick fix. Worked. Thanks. your welcome, Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: OOB: Failure in ImageStage: module sd_card_image
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 10:40 -0300, Esteban Bordón wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to make a custom build for XO-1.75 using oob and
image.50.makefs.sh throws an error.
Anyone know how to solve it?
Hey I ran into this one while using DX's version of OOB, and had the
same problem. Try this attached patch.
Jerry
Thakns,
Esteban.
Re-reading the partition table ...
BLKRRPART: Inappropriate ioctl for device
If you created or changed a DOS partition, /dev/foo7, say, then use
dd(1)
to zero the first 512 bytes: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo7 bs=512
count=1
(See fdisk(8).)
++ head -n1
++ kpartx
-l /home/builder/dx3-osbuilder-uy/build/intermediates/40015UY2.zd.disk.img
++ sed -e 's:.*/::'
++ awk '{print $5}'
+ loop=loop3
+ disk_loop=/dev/loop3
+ boot_loop=/dev/mapper/loop3p1
+ root_loop=/dev/mapper/loop3p2
+ kpartx -a
-v /home/builder/dx3-osbuilder-uy/build/intermediates/40015UY2.zd.disk.img
add map loop3p1 (253:2): 0 131072 linear /dev/loop3 8192
add map loop3p2 (253:3): 0 5773056 linear /dev/loop3 139264
+ echo 'mke2fs -O dir_index,^resize_inode -L Boot
-F /dev/mapper/loop3p1'
mke2fs -O dir_index,^resize_inode -L Boot -F /dev/mapper/loop3p1
+ echo 'Create filesystems...'
Create filesystems...
+ mke2fs -O 'dir_index,^resize_inode' -L Boot -F /dev/mapper/loop3p1
mke2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
mke2fs: No such file or directory while trying to determine filesystem
size
* Caught error, cleanup and then bail out.
* Running part cleanup base cleanup.50.cleanup.sh...
* Running part cleanup buildnr_from_file
cleanup.50.write_buildnr.sh...
ERROR: Failure in ImageStage: module sd_card_image, part
image.50.makefs.sh, error code 1
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diff --git a/modules/sd_card_image/image.50.makefs.sh b/modules/sd_card_image/image.50.makefs.sh
index 7f907ad..b259409 100644
--- a/modules/sd_card_image/image.50.makefs.sh
+++ b/modules/sd_card_image/image.50.makefs.sh
@@ -79,15 +79,20 @@ make_image()
$ROOT_PARTITION_START_BLOCK,,,
EOF
- loop=$(kpartx -l $img | head -n1 | awk '{print $5}' | sed -e 's:.*/::' )
- disk_loop=/dev/$loop
- boot_loop=/dev/mapper/${loop}p1
- root_loop=/dev/mapper/${loop}p2
+ disk_loop=$(losetup --show --find --partscan $img)
+ boot_loop=${disk_loop}p1
+ root_loop=${disk_loop}p2
+
+ # Work around occasional failure for loop partitions to appear
+ # http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=134271282127702w=2
+ local i=0
+ while ! [ -e $boot_loop ]; do
+ partx -a -v $disk_loop
+ sleep 1
+ (( ++i ))
+ [ $i -ge 10 ] break
+ done
- kpartx -a -v $img
-
- echo mke2fs -O dir_index,^resize_inode -L Boot -F $boot_loop
-
echo Create filesystems...
mke2fs -O dir_index,^resize_inode -L Boot -F $boot_loop
mount $boot_loop $BOOT
@@ -127,9 +132,8 @@ EOF
umount $ROOT
umount $BOOT
-
- kpartx -d $disk_loop || :
losetup -d $disk_loop || :
+
# FIXME: any value to running e2fsck now? maybe with -D ?
}
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Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1
On Sun, 2013-03-10 at 14:58 -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/09/2013 01:35 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: I seem to remember from the devel list that martin and Daniel said there are no plans to re-enable it. The future is OOB. Chopping the list down to just devel@ for my comments. Perhaps I don't understand but I don't see how OOB can work for a setup like Adam is describing in Haiti where they have laptops in the mix that are secure. Unless they first un-secure every laptop a custom OS build wth OOB would have to be signed by OLPC or Reuben would have to give them a Haiti key thats installed via keyjector. +1 Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XSCE 0.2 on XO-1
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 10:52 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: For what it's worth (and me not giving a rodent's behind) contrary to popular consensus, I ran the XSCE instructions (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.2/Installing) on a XO-1. A couple of attempts ran out of space, so I restarted with a 12.1.0 image and removed /home/olpc/Library and emptied /home/olpc/Activities, except for Browse and Terminal (Browse for the cloud, and Terminal for everything else). On the third run, it ran all the way, and now manages to provide me with network activities. erlang/ejabberd is running. So are squid, avahi, dhcpd, named, and dhclient. httpd isn't so I'll peek in and see why. Not quite sure what else to do/check to see how it works. Does it have a web UI? If so, didn't spot that in the instructions. df -h tells me that rootfs mounted on / has 155M available. Perhaps getting rid of GNOME etc. will free up more space. Why did I do it? Short answer: Because I can. Longish answer: I would like to see a common methodology of installation and provisioning of services on all platforms, irrespective of form factor or CPU arch. So far, it's promising. cheers, Sameer Maybe you can install a SD-card in the external slot and run the OS from there, that should take care of the space constringent. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS Community Edition: XO 1.75 installtion
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 17:31 +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Yes it is a 12.1.0 (build 10) as I cannot flash the new build 21 since the image I have is customised. Is your 1.75 locked? For the 1st installation I did not have the USB-Ethernet-AP connection plugin. Your best bet is to have all your interfaces plugging in before booting the XO, otherwise when we detect the number of interfaces we will miss installing some components that is vital to using the XS as a router. We prompt if we detect less than what is required for a router, but I prefer to have the interfaces appear in the same order as what the kernel will find if just rebooted. This is more of an issue when your using 2 usb based interfaces and not using the XO's internal wifi. Maybe I should use another XO to start all over again! I would prefer if you could use 12.1.0-21 as a starting point as that is what we are testing with. If you can't do that, please ensure your network adaptor is inserted before booting then run the install. Thanks for the detail step by step. Hope I have better luck the next time. see: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.2/Hacking Installing. Does Moodle, registration, etc work as usual with a complete install? Moodle is left uninstalled, but can be added later if wanted/needed, instructions to follow. Thanks for the valuable feedback, Jerry Cheers -Original Message- From: Anna [mailto:ascho...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 12:42 AM To: tkk...@nurturingasia.com Cc: server-devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [Server-devel] XS Community Edition: XO 1.75 installtion Just to clarify, you're on a 1.75 running 12.1.0? And before you started doing anything in the instructions, did you plug in a USB wifi dongle connected to a powered up AP? My usual process for getting ready to install is: 1. Flash 12.1.0 on a 1.75 2. It reboots itself, I set the buddy name 3. In NH, I connect to my home wifi 4. Turn off power management in the Sugar Control Panel 5. Plug in the ethernet cable that connects the usb wifi dongle to the AP 6. Plug the AP's power into the wall outlet 7. Insert the usb wifi dongle into the 1.75 8. Open the terminal activity and start following the install instructions On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Must I use an external AP or there is more magic if the XO wirless can function as this ? As far as I know, the XO's wifi chip doesn't support AP mode, so unfortunately no. Anna Schoolfield Birmingham ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: XO-4 not resuming after suspend
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 09:25 +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I have an XO-4 B1, OFW Q7B14, EC Firmware 0.3.10, os28. It won't resume after suspend, but sometimes it does. I couldn't reproduce the bug, but it happens most of the time. ... Anyone else seeing this? I'm seeing this with my B1, hard lock just after suspending, can't awaken the XO via any input method. Sorry no logs for this one. For me, OS28 XO-4 doesnt seem to be going into suspend, mostly. It did suspend once and when it resumed it did not load the cursor, just a square of noise like a QR code, a bug we had in the early XO-4 builds. It seems suspend has regressed from OS27. Tony I'm seeing this with the C2 unit I have, enabling powerd's tracing shows suspend is being skipped with cpu busy once a rtcalarm wakeup event occurs during until_dim-soft. I have the logs if needed. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 release candidate 4 (build 24) released
On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 21:31 +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, We're pleased to announce the next release candidate of our new 13.1.0 software release. snip Please review the Known problems section of the release notes. Some documented issues are carried over from previous releases, but others are new and are things that we will aim to fix in the few weeks before release. IMPORTANT: New XO-4 firmware Q7B11 breaks automatic upgrade for touchscreen firmware versions before 0.0.0.10 on C1 models. After reflashing to Q7B11 from an earlier version, you must (just this once) manually upgrade with ok update-nn-flash Otherwise the touchscreen will not work. I have questions with this, should everybody be doing this procedure to all updates from a release prior to 23 to a release 24 or later that would install Q7B11 or later? ie: image 13.1.0-21 is installed then you flash/olpc-update to 13.1.0-26 should you be doing this? Does this apply to all B1,C1,C2 models and what versions should be installed with Q7B11 for these models? from a machine with Q7B11: kernel: zforce: found zForce firmware 0.0.0.4 kernel: zforce: running in multitouch mode What should syslog be recording for the zforce driver for the B1,C1,C2? Just trying to clear up what needs to be done going forward. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the appearing and hiding of OSK
On 24 January 2013 08:11, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.orgwrote: So, it seems that just hacking onto the game-key won't help :( No. Will not work, because the osk will appear if you touch over a input widget. The game keys are not the expected way to show the osk. Hmm.. which brings us back to square one :( Let's try another way :P Is there a way, so that we may know whether we are in ebook-mode, or normal-mode? Yes, there is a ebook switch event: Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: OLPC XO-1.75 lid and ebook switches Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: input: OLPC lid switch as /devices/virtual/input/input3 Jan 24 01:14:28 xo-1e-89-0d kernel: input: OLPC ebook switch as /devices/virtual/input/input4 Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: starting olpc-kbdshim-udev version 29 Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd 4: found touchscreen (zForce touchscreen) /dev/input/event8 (18:00:00) Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd 6: found keyboard (AT Translated Set 2 keyboard) /dev/input/event5 (11:01:01) Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd 7: found touchpad (FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad) /dev/input/event9 (11:02:0f) Jan 24 01:14:49 xo-1e-89-0d olpc-kbdshim-udev[484]: olpc-kbdshim-udev: fd 8: found ebook switch Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 release candidate 4 (build 24) released
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 10:19 -0500, Paul Fox wrote: jerry wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 21:31 +, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, We're pleased to announce the next release candidate of our new 13.1.0 software release. snip Please review the Known problems section of the release notes. Some documented issues are carried over from previous releases, but others are new and are things that we will aim to fix in the few weeks before release. IMPORTANT: New XO-4 firmware Q7B11 breaks automatic upgrade for touchscreen firmware versions before 0.0.0.10 on C1 models. After reflashing to Q7B11 from an earlier version, you must (just this once) manually upgrade with ok update-nn-flash Otherwise the touchscreen will not work. I have questions with this, should everybody be doing this procedure to all updates from a release prior to 23 to a release 24 or later that would install Q7B11 or later? from 23 or prior to 24 or later, then yes, you should do the manual update. the only exception is if you have a B1 with a clear lightguide, and you care a lot about precise linearity of touchscreen response. in that case, you should stick with firmware 0.0.0.4. and remember, if you make a mistake, you can always go back to 0.0.0.4 by downloading it and doing a manual reflash. ie: image 13.1.0-21 is installed then you flash/olpc-update to 13.1.0-26 should you be doing this? Does this apply to all B1,C1,C2 models and what versions should be installed with Q7B11 for these models? from a machine with Q7B11: kernel: zforce: found zForce firmware 0.0.0.4 kernel: zforce: running in multitouch mode What should syslog be recording for the zforce driver for the B1,C1,C2? Just trying to clear up what needs to be done going forward. B1 machines with clear lightguides should probably be left alone, as noted above. This might sound like a dumb question but do all B1s have clear lightguides? If not, how can one tell them apart? all other machines should (currently) have 0.0.0.10. and, once they have 0.0.0.10, C1 and C2 machines will automatically upgrade in the future. i think B1 machines will continue needing manual upgrades. Think this information might need to be part of the release notes. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: Any ideas, please? :) Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is installed? Did you create the *online* group? Jerry On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been trying to get buddies visible in the neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble). Following are the two cases :: i) Client :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7) In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; and receive the members changed signals (as per the attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log). Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :) ii) Client :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; but DO NOT receive the members changed signals (as per the attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log). Hence, buddies are not able to see each other. Some additional notes :: == a) Both servers are running with the same ejabberd.cfg file, as attached. b) On CentOS, following are effective, before starting ejabberd :: setenforce 0 service iptables stop service ip6tables stop On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting ejabberd :: setenforce 0 iptables -F iptables -X iptables -t nat -F iptables -t nat -X iptables -t mangle -F iptables -t mangle -X ip6tables -F ip6tables -X ip6tables -t mangle -F ip6tables -t mangle -X c) Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm (Thanks again Jerry). More importantly, the issue of https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via the persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake). The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl dump db.txt (as seen on both CentOS and Debian). However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case (see FAIL-shell.log), but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see PASS-shell.log). # d) Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream log is seen in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the members-changed signal is seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case. For brevity, I am also pasting the Send XML Stream message (which happens to be the same on both the servers) :: == =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 === D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML on stream = message from='5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org' to='5ccefd7c37c12600296e0505ad3be79c0476e...@schoolserver.mazaq.org/sugar' type='headline'event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'items node='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'item id='54E6D08D69C42'properties xmlns='http://laptop.org/xmpp/buddy-properties'property
Re: Difference in behaviour of telepathy-gabble, when ejabberd is used with CentOS and Debian-6
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 12:41 -0600, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:44 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: Any ideas, please? :) Ok, how about a couple of questions. What version of erlang is installed? Did you create the *online* group? Jerry If I'm reading [1] correctly the underling erlang version is R15, this might be related to a bug that I filed in Fedora [2]. Jerry 1. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ejabberd 2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840039 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been trying to get buddies visible in the neighborhood-view, when XOs are communicating via ejabberd-server (via telepathy-gabble). Following are the two cases :: i) Client :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) Server :: ejabberd on CentOS (XS-0.7) In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; and receive the members changed signals (as per the attached PASS_telepathy_gabble.log). Of course, the buddies are able to see each other too :) ii) Client :: Sugar (Fedora-18 based) Server :: ejabberd on Debian-6 In this case, I am able to register the users on the server; but DO NOT receive the members changed signals (as per the attached FAIL_telepathy_gabble.log). Hence, buddies are not able to see each other. Some additional notes :: == a) Both servers are running with the same ejabberd.cfg file, as attached. b) On CentOS, following are effective, before starting ejabberd :: setenforce 0 service iptables stop service ip6tables stop On Debian-6, following are effective, before starting ejabberd :: setenforce 0 iptables -F iptables -X iptables -t nat -F iptables -t nat -X iptables -t mangle -F iptables -t mangle -X ip6tables -F ip6tables -X ip6tables -t mangle -F ip6tables -t mangle -X c) Both servers are running the same ejabberd codebase (the patched version of 2.1.10), containing all the patches in http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm (Thanks again Jerry). More importantly, the issue of https://support.process-one.net/browse/EJAB-1533 is fixed via the persist-all-pubsub.patch (Thanks Daniel Drake). The buddy-properties are persisted, as seen via ejabberdctl dump db.txt (as seen on both CentOS and Debian). However, very surprisingly, the __get_members_ready_cb still receives NOTHING in the failure-debian case (see FAIL-shell.log), but receives the buddy-properties in pass-CentOScase (see PASS-shell.log). # d) Most importantly, on both the servers, the Send XML Stream log is seen in /var/log/ejabberd/ejabberd.log; however, the members-changed signal is seen only in the CentOS-ejabberd case, but not in Debian-6-ejabberd case. For brevity, I am also pasting the Send XML Stream message (which happens to be the same on both the servers) :: == =INFO REPORT 2013-01-17 23:46:45 === D(0.360.0:ejabberd_c2s:1561) : Send XML
Re: Location for source-rpm of ejabberd, being used in XS-0.7
On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 18:54 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: Hi all. I am wanting to share the sugar-activities, via gabble protocol. As a first step, I installed http://dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC-School-Server-0.7-i386.iso on a VirtualBox, and did the xs-setup example.org step. (As the second step, I chose manual networking, to configure the virtual-image as per my network. After the networking was set, I could use the Chat activity between two XOs fine :) :) Now, I wish to have this sharing done, with only ejabberd running (in other words, without installing all the other components that come along packaged with the XS). The ejabberd version (as shown by rpm -qa | grep ejabberd) is ejabberd-2.1.10.el6.olpc1.i686 Regarding this, I wanted to know the source of the ejabberd rpm being used :: (i) Is it the vanilla Fedora rpm that is being used? (ii) Or some OLPC-specific patches come along (which would mean there must be a corresponding OLPC src-rpm for the same :) ) It's patched, have a look in: http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Location for source-rpm of ejabberd, being used in XS-0.7
On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 22:13 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 18:54 +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: Hi all. I am wanting to share the sugar-activities, via gabble protocol. As a first step, I installed http://dev.laptop.org/xs/OLPC-School-Server-0.7-i386.iso on a VirtualBox, and did the xs-setup example.org step. (As the second step, I chose manual networking, to configure the virtual-image as per my network. After the networking was set, I could use the Chat activity between two XOs fine :) :) Now, I wish to have this sharing done, with only ejabberd running (in other words, without installing all the other components that come along packaged with the XS). The ejabberd version (as shown by rpm -qa | grep ejabberd) is ejabberd-2.1.10.el6.olpc1.i686 Regarding this, I wanted to know the source of the ejabberd rpm being used :: (i) Is it the vanilla Fedora rpm that is being used? (ii) Or some OLPC-specific patches come along (which would mean there must be a corresponding OLPC src-rpm for the same :) ) It's patched, have a look in: http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ Thanks Jerry; as usual you were on the spot :) I could build and install the rpm on Fedora :) Just one more question: === I still see that there are some differences (mainly related to the served domain names, and allowed clients that could register fields) between the XS-0.7's ejabberd.cfg, and the one I just installed on Fedora. Although I know the steps to change these settings to make ejabberd work, but I still wonder whether the ejabberd-installed-after-building-http://dev.laptop.org/xs/repos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/ejabberd-2.1.10-1.el6.olpc1.src.rpm should be the same as ejabberd-found-on-XS-0.7-just-after-the-XS-has-been-installed (i.e., the XS-ejabberd's snapshot just before xs-setup example.org is run). Anyways, thanks a ton !!! Don't think I understated the question, hit me up on IRC or Skype if you want to discuss this further. Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
