Re: [OLPC library] OLPC-health

2008-02-04 Thread Seth Woodworth
>
> I haven't used InDesign, but in my many years using FrameMaker I
> considered it fairly beta the whole time. Basic design errors, memory
> leaks, missing functions, display bugs,...
>


Yes, Adobe's previous product PageMaker/FrameMaker was very beta as well.  I
have a pretty soft spot in my heart for it's fellow users :)


>
> We may need to send a few volunteers to clean up Scribus, then. Has
> anybody on the devel list looked at what needs to be done for Scribus?
> They could start exploring here.
> http://bugs.scribus.net/roadmap_page.php
>
> Maybe we should start a Wiki page for Free Software projects that are
> needed for laptop work, even if they won't go on the laptops.


That's not a bad idea.  We have only X number of programmers coming into the
project, if we can't get them to work on one of our projects *directly*
perhaps they could work on related projects?  I'm trying to make the wiki a
little more usable for people looking for jobs, and I'll keep this in mind.


> We need a project page for each activity, each document set, and much
> of the basic hardware and software development, and we need to prod
> people to sign up there. Then we have to create pages to index it all,
> or at least make sure that category markers are applied consistently.
>
>
This is what I've done for the [[Health]] projects, and I'm working on
expanding into other projects as well.  (we ought to talk about VistA soon
btw)

I am concerned with how we are using signup lists on the wiki however.  No
one ever seems to *do* anything with them.  I haven't really seen anyone go
back into a /People list and contact the new recruits.  It makes much more
sense for them to hit the mailing lists or contact someone directly.  I
think that every page/project needs to have a volunteer coordinator.  Just
someone who can farm work out to more people, and has a basic to middling
understanding of the components of the project and can connect people to
those who know more.

That in fact should be it's own thread come to think of it.
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Re: [OLPC library] OLPC-health

2008-02-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Feb 3, 2008 9:51 PM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've looked at Scribus.  And it's very beta still. It has some potential to
> be great software eventually, but it is nowhere near InDesign.

I haven't used InDesign, but in my many years using FrameMaker I
considered it fairly beta the whole time. Basic design errors, memory
leaks, missing functions, display bugs,...

> And it can't
> read the source files at all.  I will likely be using Scribus for the
> printed XO manual later on this month, so I hope it isn't as bad as it
> seems. :S

We may need to send a few volunteers to clean up Scribus, then. Has
anybody on the devel list looked at what needs to be done for Scribus?
They could start exploring here.
http://bugs.scribus.net/roadmap_page.php

Maybe we should start a Wiki page for Free Software projects that are
needed for laptop work, even if they won't go on the laptops.

> > It'd be really nice if we had a way to dish out work like that. Doing
> > a single chapter is a manageable chunk of work, and the result is
> > visible right away. I think it's fun to do, except for the part where
> > it takes 100 hours to do the whole book if you have to do it alone.
> >
> > If we can setup a team of people working on jobs like this, it'll be
> > more fun and diverse for everyone.
> >
>
> I've been working on restructuring the [[Health]] pages on the wiki and I'm
> working my way into restructuring the participate and volunteering pages in
> general.  If we really want people to get involved, we need to better
> document what you're doing, what the work flow would be, what skills are
> required, and get the word out there.
>
> Volunteer coordination is hard, but worth it. :)

We need a project page for each activity, each document set, and much
of the basic hardware and software development, and we need to prod
people to sign up there. Then we have to create pages to index it all,
or at least make sure that category markers are applied consistently.

> Seth
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > - Pascal.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [OLPC library] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!- MATLAB for OLPC?

2008-01-28 Thread Cleve Moler
I am passing this on to Bob Bemis, who wrote the microarray demo on
MATLAB Central.  (I doubt that MATLAB runs in the OLPC, but I'm not
sure.)
  -- Cleve

-Original Message-
From: drew einhorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:22 AM
To: Brown, Henry, DoIT
Cc: Arjun Sarwal; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; devel@lists.laptop.org;
Eul-Shik Hong; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cleve Moler
Subject: Re: [OLPC library] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!- MATLAB for OLPC?

The person to ask about this is "Cleve Moler"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
the original author of MATLAB.

On Jan 28, 2008 8:34 AM, Brown, Henry, DoIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
>
> OLPC + MATLAB - Tricorder for developing world
>
> Could Matlab create Greene Chip DNA microarray software to run on
OLPC?
> http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html
>
http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId
=2573
> http://laptop.org/
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080121100909.htm
>
> If the MATLAB software could run on OLPC it could be used to monitor
disease
> in the field.
> I worked with AIDS patients and child nutrition programs while in the
Peace
> Corps.
> We saw kids die every week from RSV and dehydration caused by
diarrhea.
> We did not know what antibiotic to give.
> OLPC could use MATLAB software to integrate DNA array results to
diagnosis.
> An expert system similar to Mycin could then be used to diagnose
disease in
> the field via the web.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin
>
>
>
> Henry Brown
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cell 795-3680
> office 505 827-2509
>
>  
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arjun Sarwal
> Sent: Fri 1/25/2008 4:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; devel@lists.laptop.org
> Subject: 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> There has been a lot of interest from various groups to
develop/explore
> medical applications around the XO laptop. While a number of
people/groups
> have already undertaken efforts in a number of areas, there are also
many
> more people interested in volunteering and helping out.
>
> While people have put in great efforts into many projects, our efforts
would
> be much more effective once we get a little organized amongst
ourselves so
> that we can co-ordinate on our projects, avoid duplication of efforts,
and
> discuss with people with field experience to comment and feedback on
our
> efforts.
>
>
> The reach of our efforts and projects is promising and the potential
to
> impact kids and communities around the world is huge --  all this is
> possible due to the scale and reach of XO deployments.
>
>
>
> One can broadly break down efforts into the following three areas -
>
>
> (1) "Content"
> Creating a Library/repository of information that would be shipped on
the XO
> laptop as part of the default software on it. This would be a ready
> reference for preliminary diagnosis of diseases and a reference for
> symptoms. This would also include general information on an array of
topics
> such as hygiene, nutrition, balanced diets, etc.
>
> (2) "Hardware"
> Developing and using hardware peripherals that connect to the XO
laptop.
> These include, but are not limited to the build-in camera (with the
> possibility of add-on optical elements; an EKG; and a pulse oxymeter.
>
> (3) "Software"
> Developing software that asks the user a series of questions and helps
in a
> preliminary diagnosis. Links to useful websites and online portals.
>
>
> David Greisen, Seth Woodworth, Pascal Scheffers, Benjamin Schwartz are
some
> of the people that have been working on "Content"
>
> Ian Daniher, Rafael Ortiz, IMSA OLPC chapter participants (Scott
Swanson,
> Kevin, April Hope) are some of the people working on "Hardware"
>
> Please add onto this list and let everyone know what you've been
working
> upon.
>
>
>
> David Greisen and Mika Matsuzaki are co-ordinating efforts on the
"content"
> related projects.
> Ian Daniher and Kevin(IMSA) are co-ordinating efforts on "hardware"
projects
> We still need volunteers to co-ordinate efforts on the "software"
projects
>
>
> Apart from that, we need to setup an advisory board comprising of
Doctors,
> field workers, medical professionals etc. to guide the efforts in all
three
> areas.
>
>
>
> How you can start participating in the "OLPC Health" efforts --
>
> (1) Send an email to library mailing list[1] with a short introduction
of
> yourself.
>
> If you'd like to head/undertake projects, please put up project
proposals

Re: [OLPC library] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!- MATLAB for OLPC?

2008-01-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 08:34 -0700, Brown, Henry, DoIT wrote:

> Could Matlab create Greene Chip DNA microarray software to run on
> OLPC? 
> http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html
> http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId=2573
> http://laptop.org/
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080121100909.htm
>  
> If the MATLAB software could run on OLPC it could be used to monitor
> disease in the field.
> I worked with AIDS patients and child nutrition programs while in the
> Peace Corps.
> We saw kids die every week from RSV and dehydration caused by
> diarrhea.
> We did not know what antibiotic to give.
> OLPC could use MATLAB software to integrate DNA array results to
> diagnosis.
> An expert system similar to Mycin could then be used to diagnose
> disease in the field via the web.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin

Creating new software to read and analyze DNA microarrays is not hard.
MATLAB is not required.  If you can make the case for microarray
analysis, appropriate software can be created easily enough.

However, reading a microarray typically requires a high-resolution
digital fluorescence microscope, which is very expensive.  Therefore,
any clinic that can make use of this technology is likely to be able to
afford more appropriate dedicated computing hardware than the XO.

--Ben Schwartz


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Re: [OLPC library] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!- MATLAB for OLPC?

2008-01-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
AFAIK Matlab is not open source. You can use octave 
http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ or scilab http://www.scilab.org/ to 
get the job done.

Best,
Simon


drew einhorn wrote:
> The person to ask about this is "Cleve Moler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> the original author of MATLAB.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2008 8:34 AM, Brown, Henry, DoIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> OLPC + MATLAB - Tricorder for developing world
>>
>> Could Matlab create Greene Chip DNA microarray software to run on OLPC?
>> http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html
>> http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId=2573
>> http://laptop.org/
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080121100909.htm
>>
>> If the MATLAB software could run on OLPC it could be used to monitor disease
>> in the field.
>> I worked with AIDS patients and child nutrition programs while in the Peace
>> Corps.
>> We saw kids die every week from RSV and dehydration caused by diarrhea.
>> We did not know what antibiotic to give.
>> OLPC could use MATLAB software to integrate DNA array results to diagnosis.
>> An expert system similar to Mycin could then be used to diagnose disease in
>> the field via the web.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin
>>
>>
>>
>> Henry Brown
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> cell 795-3680
>> office 505 827-2509
>>
>>  
>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arjun Sarwal
>> Sent: Fri 1/25/2008 4:23 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; devel@lists.laptop.org
>> Subject: 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> There has been a lot of interest from various groups to develop/explore
>> medical applications around the XO laptop. While a number of people/groups
>> have already undertaken efforts in a number of areas, there are also many
>> more people interested in volunteering and helping out.
>>
>> While people have put in great efforts into many projects, our efforts would
>> be much more effective once we get a little organized amongst ourselves so
>> that we can co-ordinate on our projects, avoid duplication of efforts, and
>> discuss with people with field experience to comment and feedback on our
>> efforts.
>>
>>
>> The reach of our efforts and projects is promising and the potential to
>> impact kids and communities around the world is huge --  all this is
>> possible due to the scale and reach of XO deployments.
>>
>>
>>
>> One can broadly break down efforts into the following three areas -
>>
>>
>> (1) "Content"
>> Creating a Library/repository of information that would be shipped on the XO
>> laptop as part of the default software on it. This would be a ready
>> reference for preliminary diagnosis of diseases and a reference for
>> symptoms. This would also include general information on an array of topics
>> such as hygiene, nutrition, balanced diets, etc.
>>
>> (2) "Hardware"
>> Developing and using hardware peripherals that connect to the XO laptop.
>> These include, but are not limited to the build-in camera (with the
>> possibility of add-on optical elements; an EKG; and a pulse oxymeter.
>>
>> (3) "Software"
>> Developing software that asks the user a series of questions and helps in a
>> preliminary diagnosis. Links to useful websites and online portals.
>>
>>
>> David Greisen, Seth Woodworth, Pascal Scheffers, Benjamin Schwartz are some
>> of the people that have been working on "Content"
>>
>> Ian Daniher, Rafael Ortiz, IMSA OLPC chapter participants (Scott Swanson,
>> Kevin, April Hope) are some of the people working on "Hardware"
>>
>> Please add onto this list and let everyone know what you've been working
>> upon.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Greisen and Mika Matsuzaki are co-ordinating efforts on the "content"
>> related projects.
>> Ian Daniher and Kevin(IMSA) are co-ordinating efforts on "hardware" projects
>> We still need volunteers to co-ordinate efforts on the "software" projects
>>
>>
>> Apart from that, we need to setup an advisory board comprising of Doctors,
>> field workers, medical professionals etc. to guide the efforts in all three
>> areas.
>>
>>
>>
>> How you can start participating in the "OLPC Health" efforts --
>>
>> (1) Send an email to library mailing list[1] with a short introduction of
>> yourself.
>>
>> If you'd like to head/undertake projects, please put up project proposals
>> and let all know that you're looking for participants/volunteers/developers
>>
>> If you'd like to volunteer in projects, please mention your area of
>> experience and/or what areas you'd be interested to volunteer in.
>>
>> (2) Categorize the list of volunteers on the wiki page
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Health and add your name into the appropriate
>> category. Please create other categories if content, hardware, software
>> don't seem to represent the efforts very well.
>>
>> (3) Help the "OLPC Health" team connect with field workers, MDs , Doctors,
>> Physicians towards the formation of an advisory group
>>
>> (4)  There is a conference call that w

Re: [OLPC library] 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!- MATLAB for OLPC?

2008-01-28 Thread drew einhorn
The person to ask about this is "Cleve Moler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
the original author of MATLAB.

On Jan 28, 2008 8:34 AM, Brown, Henry, DoIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> OLPC + MATLAB - Tricorder for developing world
>
> Could Matlab create Greene Chip DNA microarray software to run on OLPC?
> http://www.mailman.hs.columbia.edu/news/Lipkin_GreeneChip.html
> http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/loadFile.do?objectId=2573
> http://laptop.org/
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080121100909.htm
>
> If the MATLAB software could run on OLPC it could be used to monitor disease
> in the field.
> I worked with AIDS patients and child nutrition programs while in the Peace
> Corps.
> We saw kids die every week from RSV and dehydration caused by diarrhea.
> We did not know what antibiotic to give.
> OLPC could use MATLAB software to integrate DNA array results to diagnosis.
> An expert system similar to Mycin could then be used to diagnose disease in
> the field via the web.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycin
>
>
>
> Henry Brown
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cell 795-3680
> office 505 827-2509
>
>  
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Arjun Sarwal
> Sent: Fri 1/25/2008 4:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; devel@lists.laptop.org
> Subject: 'OLPC-Health' takes off !!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> There has been a lot of interest from various groups to develop/explore
> medical applications around the XO laptop. While a number of people/groups
> have already undertaken efforts in a number of areas, there are also many
> more people interested in volunteering and helping out.
>
> While people have put in great efforts into many projects, our efforts would
> be much more effective once we get a little organized amongst ourselves so
> that we can co-ordinate on our projects, avoid duplication of efforts, and
> discuss with people with field experience to comment and feedback on our
> efforts.
>
>
> The reach of our efforts and projects is promising and the potential to
> impact kids and communities around the world is huge --  all this is
> possible due to the scale and reach of XO deployments.
>
>
>
> One can broadly break down efforts into the following three areas -
>
>
> (1) "Content"
> Creating a Library/repository of information that would be shipped on the XO
> laptop as part of the default software on it. This would be a ready
> reference for preliminary diagnosis of diseases and a reference for
> symptoms. This would also include general information on an array of topics
> such as hygiene, nutrition, balanced diets, etc.
>
> (2) "Hardware"
> Developing and using hardware peripherals that connect to the XO laptop.
> These include, but are not limited to the build-in camera (with the
> possibility of add-on optical elements; an EKG; and a pulse oxymeter.
>
> (3) "Software"
> Developing software that asks the user a series of questions and helps in a
> preliminary diagnosis. Links to useful websites and online portals.
>
>
> David Greisen, Seth Woodworth, Pascal Scheffers, Benjamin Schwartz are some
> of the people that have been working on "Content"
>
> Ian Daniher, Rafael Ortiz, IMSA OLPC chapter participants (Scott Swanson,
> Kevin, April Hope) are some of the people working on "Hardware"
>
> Please add onto this list and let everyone know what you've been working
> upon.
>
>
>
> David Greisen and Mika Matsuzaki are co-ordinating efforts on the "content"
> related projects.
> Ian Daniher and Kevin(IMSA) are co-ordinating efforts on "hardware" projects
> We still need volunteers to co-ordinate efforts on the "software" projects
>
>
> Apart from that, we need to setup an advisory board comprising of Doctors,
> field workers, medical professionals etc. to guide the efforts in all three
> areas.
>
>
>
> How you can start participating in the "OLPC Health" efforts --
>
> (1) Send an email to library mailing list[1] with a short introduction of
> yourself.
>
> If you'd like to head/undertake projects, please put up project proposals
> and let all know that you're looking for participants/volunteers/developers
>
> If you'd like to volunteer in projects, please mention your area of
> experience and/or what areas you'd be interested to volunteer in.
>
> (2) Categorize the list of volunteers on the wiki page
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Health and add your name into the appropriate
> category. Please create other categories if content, hardware, software
> don't seem to represent the efforts very well.
>
> (3) Help the "OLPC Health" team connect with field workers, MDs , Doctors,
> Physicians towards the formation of an advisory group
>
> (4)  There is a conference call that we have on the 10th of February. Please
> propose agenda items!
> For people in Boston/Cambridge area -- please help  me organize the
> call/meeting !
>
>
>
> That was a long email! Thank you for your patience in reading through it.
>
> best,
> Arjun Sarwal
>
> ps - please avoid ccing the devel mailing list