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Hello!...
I just got 2 know about the X-Oand its activities, and i'm rily interested in creating an activity that will help these young kids to get more creative and innovativeI just wanna ask..where do i start from?...learn python or what?...i'm a bit conversant with php, java, C++ and visual basicany ideas? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Hello!...
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, sonubi seun checkmii4r...@yahoo.com wrote: I just got 2 know about the X-Oand its activities, and i'm rily interested in creating an activity that will help these young kids to get more creative and innovativeI just wanna ask..where do i start from?...learn python or what?...i'm a bit conversant with php, java, C++ and visual basicany ideas? There are many ways to get started and we have a new manual, http://en.flossmanuals.net/ActivitiesGuideSugar/Introduction, that details much of what you need to write your first activity. Jump in. -walter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Beyond Hello World
All, As threatened, I have created a Wiki page called Beyond Hello World where I put what I know about writing Sugar Activities. It isn't much, but there is information on that page I had an awful time figuring out, so maybe it will be of use to someone. I am sure that at least some of the things I wrote are not as correct as they could be. My feeling is if these things are true they're worth knowing, and if not hopefully somebody will correct them before too many get led astray. The URL is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Beyond_Hello_World I link to this page from only one place: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers If the consensus is that the page is of some use, I or others can link to it from more places. Thanks, James Simmons Edward Cherlin wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 9:12 AM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward, I browsed through the links on your Programming For Children pages and came across the Activity Tutorial (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial). Like the other tutorials I've seen it quits just as things are getting interesting. Just so. It gave me an idea for a new page, which I'd like to call Beyond Hello World which would be on writing an Activity that actually does something useful. I would cover such topics as how Sugar activities deal with files, how to use meta data with Sugar activities, how to create a standalone Python app that can easily be Sugarized, debugging tips, etc. I would use code snippets from my own Activities for sample code. I would link to it from the Sugar page. Excellent. Just what I was hoping for. Hello, World can be chapter 1, and your contribution chapter 2. Then we shall see what you inspire others to contribute. We also need more information on Sugarizing non-Python apps. I need to finish my own Activities before I write this, but I think it would be a way to put my hard won knowledge in the Wiki without messing up anything that's already there. Also, anything I get wrong could be corrected by others. You don't need to worry about messing up pages. It all stays there in the history and is easy to bring back. But it is also no problem if you add a section of your own to a page without disturbing what is there. James Simmons Edward Cherlin wrote: I started a document on the Wiki, Programming for Children (activities), and another, Programming with Children (tutorials). Your input would be most welcome. See the OLPC Publications page for more suggestions and invitations. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Beyond Hello World
Eduardo, This sounds fine to me. Your document has an Activity bundle section with a Hello Kids app which doesn't do anything with the Journal. *Every* tutorial I've seen stops at that point. My page is an attempt to fill in the missing information so a developer could learn how to write an application that works with the Journal. That information, though trivial, was *very* hard for me to find. The only document that explained it was the Pydoc for Sugar Activity, which was damned hard to find, especially since I didn't know I was looking for it. I'm leery of editing a age that someone else has worked on. I don't want to wreck anything. On the other hand, I don't much care what happens to my own page, as long as the information in it is preserved somehow or other. Link to it, copy and paste from it, whatever. I have some reservations about the Hacking Sugar page. First, the name could be improved. To me, Hacking implies making something do things it was not designed to do. Use your XO laptop to control your garage door opener and the like. It implies going outside the rules and doing stuff that voids the warranty. The general public has its own ideas about what hacking is, which are even worse. I know that one of the goals is getting children to make their own Activities, so you need a title that won't scare their teachers. I would suggest something like Making Your Own Activities. Second, you are mixing links to content with actual content. In my experience with Wikis there is a finite size you can make a page, and you want pages that are a good size to print out. If I was doing your page it would be all links with short abstracts, like most of it is already. I'd move the Activity bundle example to its own page. My page could be chapter 2, as Edward Cherlin suggested. My EtextReader Activity, when it is hosted, could be the sample for that chapter. James Simmons Eduardo Silva wrote: Hi, Some months ago, I was working in a document called: Hacking Sugar, which can be a place to push information about how to develop for the sugar environment. Simon (SJ) was agree and he was working and trying to merge different existent resources in the wiki into hacking sugar. Maybe would be good to continue this job and avoid to make separate efforts to this need. The URL is: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hacking_Sugar Hope it helps... best. Eduardo Silva http://edsiper.linuxchile.cl 2008/2/20 James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All, As threatened, I have created a Wiki page called Beyond Hello World where I put what I know about writing Sugar Activities. It isn't much, but there is information on that page I had an awful time figuring out, so maybe it will be of use to someone. I am sure that at least some of the things I wrote are not as correct as they could be. My feeling is if these things are true they're worth knowing, and if not hopefully somebody will correct them before too many get led astray. The URL is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Beyond_Hello_World I link to this page from only one place: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers If the consensus is that the page is of some use, I or others can link to it from more places. Thanks, James Simmons Edward Cherlin wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 9:12 AM, James Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward, I browsed through the links on your Programming For Children pages and came across the Activity Tutorial (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial). Like the other tutorials I've seen it quits just as things are getting interesting. Just so. It gave me an idea for a new page, which I'd like to call Beyond Hello World which would be on writing an Activity that actually does something useful. I would cover such topics as how Sugar activities deal with files, how to use meta data with Sugar activities, how to create a standalone Python app that can easily be Sugarized, debugging tips, etc. I would use code snippets from my own Activities for sample code. I would link to it from the Sugar page. Excellent. Just what I was hoping for. Hello, World can be chapter 1, and your contribution chapter 2. Then we shall see what you inspire others to contribute. We also need more information on Sugarizing non-Python apps. I need to finish my own Activities before I write this, but I think it would be a way to put my hard won knowledge in the Wiki without messing up anything that's already there. Also, anything I get wrong could be corrected by others. You don't need to worry about messing up pages. It all stays there in the history and is easy to bring back. But it is also no problem if you add a section of your own to a page without disturbing what is there. James Simmons Edward Cherlin wrote: I started a document on the Wiki, Programming for Children (activities), and another, Programming with Children (tutorials). Your input would be most welcome. See the OLPC Publications page
Re: Beyond Hello World
How about making hacking sugar a chapter or two in the developers
manual? Eduardo: you can 'transclude' pages on the wiki if you want
to share content across pages (something like {{:Developers Manual}}
inside a page will include all of the text from [[Developers Manual]]
at that point in the text.)
SJ
ps @ eduardo - Samuel, not Simon :-)
On Feb 20, 2008 12:24 PM, Mike C. Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eduardo Silva wrote:
Hi,
Some months ago, I was working in a document called: Hacking Sugar,
which can be a place to push information about how to develop for the
sugar environment. Simon (SJ) was agree and he was working and trying
to merge different existent resources in the wiki into hacking sugar.
Maybe would be good to continue this job and avoid to make separate
efforts to this need. The URL is:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Hacking_Sugar
Thanks for this Eduardo.
Could I maybe suggest integrating new How to Develop content into the
Developer's Manual instead of Hacking Sugar? There seem to be quite a
few sections that duplicate that document but with much less content.
The Developer's Manual is explicitly left without the This Page is
Maintained by the OLPC tags to encourage people to use it as the place
to integrate How to Develop materials.
If you would rather write a separate manual, please feel free to copy
content from the Developer's Manual. There's no reason to duplicate our
efforts, and the Developer's Manual represents a collection of
information from many pages across the wiki.
Take care,
Mike
...
I link to this page from only one place:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers
If the consensus is that the page is of some use, I or others can link to
it from more places.
...
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Re: Beyond Hello World
I have some reservations about the Hacking Sugar page. First, the name could be improved. To me, Hacking implies making something do I chose that name meaning how to hack the sugar environment not just related to create activities, also include how sugar works internally and how a developer can add new components to the UI... it was an idea that was needing more time to be done. Second, you are mixing links to content with actual content. In my experience with Wikis there is a finite size you can make a page, and you want pages that are a good size to print out. If I was doing your page it would be all links with short abstracts, like most of it is already. I'd move the Activity bundle example to its own page. My page could be chapter 2, as Edward Cherlin suggested. My EtextReader Activity, when it is hosted, could be the sample for that chapter. You're right, that can be improved ... As I said in the latest email I don't have time right now to continue contributing with Hacking Sugar, I was just making suggestions... cheers. Ed.- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Beyond Hello World
Hi Samuel :D
How about making hacking sugar a chapter or two in the developers
manual?
that make sense..
Eduardo: you can 'transclude' pages on the wiki if you want
to share content across pages (something like {{:Developers Manual}}
inside a page will include all of the text from [[Developers Manual]]
at that point in the text.)
that would be a good solution, there's some info that can be merged...
cheers.
Ed.-
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Packaging and Hello World Tutorial
I was trying a modification of the Hello World tutorial to package an application with a bunch of additional files (essentially the python acts as a launcher at the moment). In any case, when I follow the hello world tutorial instructions to create the MANIFEST and run setup.py, it complains about not being able to find the base component of the path as it starts to process the MANIFEST list as if its 'cwd' is the wrong directory. When I replace the step which builds the MANIFEST from the find command with a much more simple find command (find ./ MANIFEST), things seem to work, but it really doesn't like sub-directories (particularly empty ones). So - what's the suggested path here? Should I just manually create the package and zip it externally? Is there some easier path to what I'm trying to accomplish? -eric ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Packaging and Hello World Tutorial
On Jan 1, 2008 7:03 PM, Kent Loobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008 15:57:17 you wrote: I was trying a modification of the Hello World tutorial What is the URL to the Hello World tutorial of which you speak? Thanks. Started with: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_Activity_Tutorial and then tried the differences present in: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity but the key seems to be the: find ./ | sed 's,^./,YourActivityName.activity/,g' MANIFEST The inclusion of YourActivityName.activity seems to be the key problem. -eric ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
