Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-13 Thread Eduardo Silva
Hi Guys,

here's our cute XO playing a video in fullscreen mode thanks to mplayer :)

http://dev.laptop.org/~rverdejo/video_samples/MPlayerFullSize01_mpeg41000_mp2128_622x520.avi

cheers!

Reynaldo Verdejo and Eduardo Silva.

On Dec 12, 2007 4:17 AM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 C. Scott Ananian wrote:
  We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
  the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
  it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
  codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
  is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
  movie (I suggest
  http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
  http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
  rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!
 
 

 It looks like there are a couple of Ogg Theora versions of the
 Elephant's Dream at http://files.akl.lt/video/Elephants%20Dream/.
 Encoded in Stereo at 512x288 (52MB) and 1024x576 (161MB). What rate/size
 would be appropriate for the XO?

 Sameer

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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-13 Thread Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves
That's a proprietary format.  Couldn't you have used Theora like the
OP suggested?

On 12/13/07, Eduardo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 here's our cute XO playing a video in fullscreen mode thanks to mplayer :)

 http://dev.laptop.org/~rverdejo/video_samples/MPlayerFullSize01_mpeg41000_mp2128_622x520.avi

 cheers!

 Reynaldo Verdejo and Eduardo Silva.

 On Dec 12, 2007 4:17 AM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  C. Scott Ananian wrote:
   We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
   the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
   it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
   codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
   is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
   movie (I suggest
   http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
   http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
   rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!
  
  
 
  It looks like there are a couple of Ogg Theora versions of the
  Elephant's Dream at http://files.akl.lt/video/Elephants%20Dream/.
  Encoded in Stereo at 512x288 (52MB) and 1024x576 (161MB). What rate/size
  would be appropriate for the XO?
 
  Sameer
 
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  http://verma.sfsu.edu/
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Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
movie (I suggest
http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!

It may be that we need to find a higher-performance (but still free)
codec or some such to make this really look good.  Help here could be
useful, too.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Erik Blankinship
On 12/11/07, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
 the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
 it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
 codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
 is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
 movie (I suggest
 http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
 http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
 rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!

 It may be that we need to find a higher-performance (but still free)
 codec or some such to make this really look good.  Help here could be
 useful, too.


To handle most any digital video format, Quicktime would be easiest to get
started.

   - Encode your existing files into DV (using Quicktime pro).
   - Use gstreamer to encode into ogg files:

gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=grover.dv ! dvdemux ! dvdec !
ffmpegcolorspace ! theoraenc ! oggmux ! filesink location= grover.ogg

Of course you will want to alter settings to change the file size, rate,
etc.  You would make these changes in the gstreamer pipeline or in quicktime
as a pre-processing step.
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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Walter Bender
The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is
quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop.

-walter

On Dec 11, 2007 6:07 PM, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 12/11/07, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
  the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
  it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
  codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
  is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
  movie (I suggest
  http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
  http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
  rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!
 
  It may be that we need to find a higher-performance (but still free)
  codec or some such to make this really look good.  Help here could be
  useful, too.

 To handle most any digital video format, Quicktime would be easiest to get
 started.

 Encode your existing files into DV (using Quicktime pro).
 Use gstreamer to encode into ogg files:
 gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=grover.dv ! dvdemux ! dvdec !
 ffmpegcolorspace ! theoraenc ! oggmux ! filesink location= grover.ogg

 Of course you will want to alter settings to change the file size, rate,
 etc.  You would make these changes in the gstreamer pipeline or in quicktime
 as a pre-processing step.




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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 11, 2007 6:52 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is
 quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop.

Is there a URL that that can be downloaded from?  Does Erik's
transcoding mechanism work to get it out of RV format?  Can we still
play it smoothly when it has been transcoded to an unencumbered
format?
 --scott

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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Peter Krenesky
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 On Dec 11, 2007 6:52 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is
 quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop.
 

 Is there a URL that that can be downloaded from?  Does Erik's
 transcoding mechanism work to get it out of RV format?  Can we still
 play it smoothly when it has been transcoded to an unencumbered
 format?
  --scott

   
http://staff.osuosl.org/~peter/myfiles/helix/SesameFull.rv

or for a shorter video:
http://staff.osuosl.org/~peter/myfiles/helix/SesameStreet_21.rv
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Fwd: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Seth Woodworth
(Doh! Sent from the wrong email)

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From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Dec 11, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Help wanted: video demo!
To: C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED], devel Development 
devel@lists.laptop.org


I believe that SJ got the rights for us to use Anima Mundi, Koyaanisqatsi
and the rest of the -qatsi movies on the XO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_Mundi_%28film%29


Very visually stunning.  And shot in the Real World as opposed to digitally
animated, it would provide a very powerful demonstration, either alongside
Elephant Dream or instead of.

I have Koyaanisqatsi / Powaqqatsi ordered from amazon, and I was planning on
getting Anima Mundi via NetFlix to encode them all in Ogg-Theora.

Wast there a specific purpose for this video?  If so what kind of time frame
is this video needed in?  If just for general demonstration, I'll still try
to get this done by christmas.  I'll have an xo this week so I can see how
high of a framerate / quality the XO can handle without slowdown.

Seth




On Dec 11, 2007 4:00 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 11, 2007 6:52 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is
  quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop.

 Is there a URL that that can be downloaded from?  Does Erik's
 transcoding mechanism work to get it out of RV format?  Can we still
 play it smoothly when it has been transcoded to an unencumbered
 format?
  --scott

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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Erik Blankinship
 Does Erik's
 transcoding mechanism work to get it out of RV format?


I don't believe there is a real component for a gstreamer pipeline.

You would want to use the highest quality originals anyway.
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Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread Sameer Verma
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of
 the XO.  Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so
 it's not a great demo for video playback.  We bundle the Ogg Theora
 codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step
 is for someone to invest some time in transcoding an appropriate demo
 movie (I suggest
 http://www.elephantsdream.org/ -- some ogg transcoding linked from
 http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Elephants_Dream ) to an appropriate bit
 rate / size for the XO.  Make it look good!

   

It looks like there are a couple of Ogg Theora versions of the
Elephant's Dream at http://files.akl.lt/video/Elephants%20Dream/.
Encoded in Stereo at 512x288 (52MB) and 1024x576 (161MB). What rate/size
would be appropriate for the XO?

Sameer

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