Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Deepak Muddha dee...@laptop.org.au wrote: Hi all All the bugs, enhancements were recorded in the system. It is good to record the bugs, even better to also record the diagnoses and fixes that followed in the thread, see references inter alia. On 13 October 2012 13:22, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2428 Problem identified and fixed, new activity release needed. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036142.html Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2461 L10n complete, new Activity release needed http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036115.html Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2462 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036143.html Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2463 Screencast encoding was very slow. No translation. Saves to journal. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2469 Is ScreenCast the same as ClassRoomBoadcast? If so, note that ClassRoomBroacast is fully translated, must need a new release. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/mi/honey/classroombroadcast.po?view_mode=translate Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2464 Sorry this reply only went t oTabitha, I've since forwarded to list http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036189.html cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
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Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 08/10/12 18:33, Deepak Muddha wrote: Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. Can you explain in a detail for the above defect please. Start Edit. Type something. Observe that nothing appears on the screen. Click on the white main editing area. Type something. Observe that what you typed appears on the screen. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
Issues/tickets raised for all the mentioned bugs/enhancements. On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2414#change-30101 Google docs complains browser is out of date. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2415 Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart it. This only happened once. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2409 Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2410 On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2411 Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be removed if it can’t be fixed. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2412 Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2413 XO-1.5 Ivy maze works ruler works speak works paint works memorize works crazy touchpad/pointer? write __**_ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/olpc-auhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au Thanks Regards -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au* ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC New Zealand] [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 8 October 2012 16:56, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that. That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere. Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I suspect the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then auto installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might run deep into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532 This is one of our greatest sources of technical support troubles. People install incompatible bundles, sometimes over an existing working one. If the activity is protected (which we do for our core set), it can't be removed or downgraded easily. IMHO the system should tell the user if the bundle they're installing is not compatible with the OS/Sugar version they have installed. Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 6 October 2012 10:17, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart it. This only happened once. Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668. On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day. Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be removed if it can’t be fixed. Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. Can you explain in a detail for the above defect please. XO-1.5 Ivy maze works ruler works speak works paint works memorize works crazy touchpad/pointer? write __**_ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/**listinfo/olpc-auhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au* ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On 6 October 2012 13:27, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks for testing. On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! noted Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar. Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that. That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere. Well it is if you use browse to view activities.sugarlabs.org, but I suspect the activity was downloaded to a usbkey on a different machine then auto installed by launching it from the usbkey. Think the real fix might run deep into sugar's inner workings, some discussion at http://sugardextrose.org/issues/1532 Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
Thanks for testing. On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! noted Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar. Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart it. This only happened once. Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668. Think we have this resolved with au45(1.75)/au245(1.5) or greater. The updated activity is available for installation via My Settings - Software Updater when you have internet available. On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day. Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be removed if it can’t be fixed. Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. XO-1.5 Ivy maze works ruler works speak works paint works memorize works crazy touchpad/pointer? write Thanks for the report, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks for testing. On 5 October 2012 23:47, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 29 September 2012 Who: John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom Testing build 44 11.3.1-au XO-1.75: Browse 192.3!! Rocking like it’s January 2010! Based on Firefox 3.6.23, 5 security releases made since! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6#cite_note-41 Crashes if you visit large image, previously reported as olpc #11569 Google docs complains browser is out of date. Can create google docs unlike latest Browse Can open links in new tabs unlike latest Browse It’s quite slow, get slow script warning on wikipedia! noted Somehow we managed to download a new webkit browse.xo and install it on one laptop. This version of browse didn’t work at all. We got this version by downloading on an x86 laptop from a page with a big list of versions (sorry, we don’t know exactly where). Shouldn’t the XO refuse to install something that won’t actually work with it? The new webkit based browse.xo is sugar 0.96 or greater, presently there is no way to stop users from shooting themselves in the foot by installing a bundle that is not supported on their version of sugar. Hmm. I thought activities.sugarlabs.org was a bit smarter than that. That said, the bundle could have come from elsewhere. -walter Record locked up when I recorded video on Hoiho. Force quit worked, but camera light stays on and record just has a grey preview when you restart it. This only happened once. Record doesn’t work on high quality see olpc #11668. Think we have this resolved with au45(1.75)/au245(1.5) or greater. The updated activity is available for installation via My Settings - Software Updater when you have internet available. On Moa usb drives don’t show up on the frame or get auto mounted. The drive shows up in /var/log/messages and /proc/partitions. After a reboot this worked ok. I think we saw this back in the day. Distance doesn’t work at all, see olpc #11596. This activity should be removed if it can’t be fixed. Edit starts with the focus somewhere invisible, you have to click on the canvas before it does anything. XO-1.5 Ivy maze works ruler works speak works paint works memorize works crazy touchpad/pointer? write Thanks for the report, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] long-press touch actions in Sugar
Sridhar wrote: It appears that long-press is becoming part of the Sugar user experience on touchscreens: In my opinion the XO product is notably limited in that its front panel buttons will only register a 'press'. The opportunities for use of the XO in e-book configuration would be greatly enhanced if those front panel buttons were able to register 'long press' as well as 'press'. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] Registering an XO for the second time
On 27 August 2012 20:14, vanessa ramos da cruz v.ramosdac...@gmail.com wrote: Halo Martin, I am Vanessa; I am working in Angola with this project. I am new on the project so I have a little concern. I had a server with XS 0.6, I registered on it some XO’s just for tests. Now I have a new machine on witch I installed the XS 0.7. I would like to register the XO‘s on this new Machine. How ca I register the few XO’s I already registered before? I don’t have the old Machine with the XS 0.6 installation any more… Can you please help me? Hi Vanessa, You're better off asking these questions on the server-devel list: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel Regards, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: On 19/08/12 00:29, Walter Bender wrote: Tom: Any chance you guys could drop the latest Measure bits [1] onto an 860 machine to see if some of these issues are resolved? I tested measure 42 on build 860 on XO-1 and it seems to work well, except that if you switch to resistance or voltage sensors, you can't change back to the microphone sensor or swap between the resistance and voltage sensors. Thanks. I will investigate. The tuner is fun. Any NZ instruments I should add? -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 07:35 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Tabitha, Tom Today we tested XO-1s build 860 Sugar 0.84.31 with a bunch of customizations for NZ teacher training and XO-1.5s on 12.1.0 build 20. Tux, XO-1, build 860 + customisations: snip Measure: starts ok - there is a single channel active, but refresh is such that one sees two overlapping waves - this could be confusing. Gain and time controls appear to work ok. V(t) and FFT seem to be ok. Capture every 30 sec seems ok - trigger does not seem to work. Tab that displays the trace is named ‘sound’ - which is kind of true when it is capturing from a microphone, but it is really voltage and distinguishing this might be important if one is to bring a signal in from a different source through the microphone input. Hmm. Could you please tell me what version of Measure is running on build 860? thanks. -walter That should be version 31, based on: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 07:35 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Tabitha, Tom Today we tested XO-1s build 860 Sugar 0.84.31 with a bunch of customizations for NZ teacher training and XO-1.5s on 12.1.0 build 20. Tux, XO-1, build 860 + customisations: snip Measure: starts ok - there is a single channel active, but refresh is such that one sees two overlapping waves - this could be confusing. Gain and time controls appear to work ok. V(t) and FFT seem to be ok. Capture every 30 sec seems ok - trigger does not seem to work. Tab that displays the trace is named ‘sound’ - which is kind of true when it is capturing from a microphone, but it is really voltage and distinguishing this might be important if one is to bring a signal in from a different source through the microphone input. Hmm. Could you please tell me what version of Measure is running on build 860? thanks. -walter That should be version 31, based on: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 Ouch. I am up to version 42. Not sure it makes sense to try to debug such an old version. Thx. Tom: Any chance you guys could drop the latest Measure bits [1] onto an 860 machine to see if some of these issues are resolved? -walter [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4197/addon-4197-latest.xo?src=addondetail Jerry -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC testing summary Auckland 18 August 2012
On 19/08/12 00:29, Walter Bender wrote: Tom: Any chance you guys could drop the latest Measure bits [1] onto an 860 machine to see if some of these issues are resolved? I tested measure 42 on build 860 on XO-1 and it seems to work well, except that if you switch to resistance or voltage sensors, you can't change back to the microphone sensor or swap between the resistance and voltage sensors. The tuner is fun. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark. IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively saying we want an Apple. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display
On 28 July 2012 13:51, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark. IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively saying we want an Apple. Just to be clear, my question was not based on any external request. It was just an instance of curiosity from yours truly :) Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Retina display
Don't go there. It is hard to talk about the resolution of the PixelQi display. In BW mode, it is 1200 x 900.In color mode, it is something closer to 690 x 520, but the human visual system has much less color resolution anyway so it appears sharper. MLJ did a great job of matching the display to the HVS. Cheers, wad On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 28 July 2012 13:51, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:45:04PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: IANAL, but the term Retina in reference to computers and mobile devices is an Apple trademark, so any such use (referring to anything but an Apple device) would be violating their rights to that mark. IANAL too (although I Am Known As Legalist fits me) ... and any bid specification from a purchaser that uses the trademark would be effectively saying we want an Apple. Just to be clear, my question was not based on any external request. It was just an instance of curiosity from yours truly :) Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012
On 3 June 2012 17:23, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Do not adjust your clocks! This is last weeks report more than a week late. This week's report will be less tardy (hopefully) and will have include the power logs from last week. Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom We tried using the nandblaster to update our XO-1.75s and discovered that it is not suited to our use case as it’s just too slow. We only have a modest number of laptops to update, and we have a reasonably noisy wifi environment. 2 laptops managed to do the update after two full cycles through the image and the rest we did with USB sticks. Perhaps if we had requested more redundancy for error correction, but even if it had completed successfully on the first pass, it would still be slower than flashing from USB, including copying the file onto the USB. If we were doing more laptops or we weren’t actively sitting waiting for them to finish then it would be really useful. olpc-au build 225 11.3.1-au on XO-1.5 Rosella: Paint: OK. Record: Picture ok, movie on low res ok. Movie on high res - after a while it is jumpy with frozen images. Audio seems ok. Memorise: Single player numbers ok . Created game, saved it and played it ok. Measure First start with a lot of noise. Ok on second start. Clicking about does not seem to make it crash like the last time. Robot. asked ‘who makes the babies’ and it returns “/random name/ colon” Why is it saying colon? otherwise seems fine I think the colon indicates a punctuation mark ( : ).For example if the random name was john, then it pronounces as John:. Do you have any other information regarding this? Physics Seems fine hand grab works fine. No surprises there. Olli The sleep function does not seem to work when the activity is running. Ivy: Maze works Speak and robot works Browse - crashed when trying to view the whitehouse.gov website to sign the petition “Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research.” Memorize - played one sounds game but it was too quiet to hear if the guitar or drum was playing. Paint - works, can use the tools and add an image from Journal, the grayscale button has extremely different functionality to the rainbow button so I think they shouldn’t be placed together Firefox - the screen looks a bit odd with all the different sizes of fonts, clicked a few links on the front page and they seemed to work (could see lists of books, chemistry and biology page, images list). From the world culture images list pages there are back buttons that don’t work (they say file not found). Music plays from the media section. Maps take a while to load. on closing the firefox window it shows a firefox failed to start screen with a stop button Moon - works Clock - works Tamtam mini - works Stopwatch - works Measure - starts, can adjust settings Implode - works Arithmetic - works Numbers - works GCompris Clickgame - works 12.1.0 os11 on XO-1.75 On Kiwi, write works, including formatting and inserting images from record. On Kotare, started write, created a table and entered a few characters. Then shared within the neighbourhood and write stopped accepting data from the keyboard, cut and past and drag and drop still work, other applications still work with the keyboard, search box in write does not. Had whio freeze after inserting a USB drive after stopping tcpdump As reported last time and the time before, our yum problems persist. It seems the first invocation works but subsequent invocations do not. rpmdropbox.laptop.org is reporting what appears to be an incorrect content-type: $ echo GET /f17/repodata/primary.xml.gz HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.4.3 Host: rpmdropbox.laptop.org Accept: */* | nc rpmdropbox.laptop.org 80 |head -n 12 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 00:58:23 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.6 proxy_html/3.0.0 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/1.3 Python/2.5.2 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:30:07 GMT ETag: 1ac806b-25d5-4c0c692df2dc0 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 9685 Content-Type: application/xml Content-Encoding: x-gzip ... Putting the same file on my own server yields an application/x-gzip content type and no content encoding. It’s not clear whether or how this is related to the problems we see with yum, perhaps there is a transparent proxy which is sometimes re-serving the decompressed content? ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 12:47:19PM +0530, Deepak Muddha wrote: On 3 June 2012 17:23, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Robot. asked ?who makes the babies? and it returns ?/random name/ colon? Why is it saying colon? otherwise seems fine I think the colon indicates a punctuation mark ( : ).For example if the random name was john, then it pronounces as John:. Do you have any other information regarding this? I have other information. I can easily reproduce the symptom using Speak-38 on 12.1.0 os12 on XO-1.75. I agree that colon probably indicates punctuation, but the punctuation should not be pronounced using the word colon. It should be a brief pause. But as it is on the end of an utterance, it need not be pronounced at all. I suggest you raise this specific case with Sugar Labs bug tracker or the Speak maintainer. Perhaps the response to WHO MAKES THE BABIES? should be the same as the response to HOW DO YOU MAKE BABIES? or WHERE DO BABIES COME FROM? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012
On 3 June 2012 17:23, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Do not adjust your clocks! This is last weeks report more than a week late. This week's report will be less tardy (hopefully) and will have include the power logs from last week. Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom We tried using the nandblaster to update our XO-1.75s and discovered that it is not suited to our use case as it’s just too slow. We only have a modest number of laptops to update, and we have a reasonably noisy wifi environment. 2 laptops managed to do the update after two full cycles through the image and the rest we did with USB sticks. Perhaps if we had requested more redundancy for error correction, but even if it had completed successfully on the first pass, it would still be slower than flashing from USB, including copying the file onto the USB. If we were doing more laptops or we weren’t actively sitting waiting for them to finish then it would be really useful. olpc-au build 225 11.3.1-au on XO-1.5 Rosella: Paint: OK. Record: Picture ok, movie on low res ok. Movie on high res - after a while it is jumpy with frozen images. Audio seems ok. Memorise: Single player numbers ok . Created game, saved it and played it ok. Measure First start with a lot of noise. Ok on second start. Clicking about does not seem to make it crash like the last time. Robot. asked ‘who makes the babies’ and it returns “/random name/ colon” Why is it saying colon? otherwise seems fine Physics Seems fine hand grab works fine. No surprises there. Olli The sleep function does not seem to work when the activity is running. Ivy: Maze works Speak and robot works Browse - crashed when trying to view the whitehouse.gov website to sign the petition “Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research.” https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1306 Memorize - played one sounds game but it was too quiet to hear if the guitar or drum was playing. Paint - works, can use the tools and add an image from Journal, the grayscale button has extremely different functionality to the rainbow button so I think they shouldn’t be placed together https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1307 Firefox - the screen looks a bit odd with all the different sizes of fonts, clicked a few links on the front page and they seemed to work (could see lists of books, chemistry and biology page, images list). From the world culture images list pages there are back buttons that don’t work (they say file not found). https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1308 Music plays from the media section. Maps take a while to load. on closing the firefox window it shows a firefox failed to start screen with a stop button https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1309 Moon - works Clock - works Tamtam mini - works Stopwatch - works Measure - starts, can adjust settings Implode - works Arithmetic - works Numbers - works GCompris Clickgame - works 12.1.0 os11 on XO-1.75 On Kiwi, write works, including formatting and inserting images from record. On Kotare, started write, created a table and entered a few characters. Then shared within the neighbourhood and write stopped accepting data from the keyboard, cut and past and drag and drop still work, other applications still work with the keyboard, search box in write does not. Had whio freeze after inserting a USB drive after stopping tcpdump As reported last time and the time before, our yum problems persist. It seems the first invocation works but subsequent invocations do not. rpmdropbox.laptop.org is reporting what appears to be an incorrect content-type: $ echo GET /f17/repodata/primary.xml.gz HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.4.3 Host: rpmdropbox.laptop.org Accept: */* | nc rpmdropbox.laptop.org 80 |head -n 12 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 00:58:23 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.6 proxy_html/3.0.0 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/1.3 Python/2.5.2 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:30:07 GMT ETag: 1ac806b-25d5-4c0c692df2dc0 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 9685 Content-Type: application/xml Content-Encoding: x-gzip ... Putting the same file on my own server yields an application/x-gzip content type and no content encoding. It’s not clear whether or how this is related to the problems we see with yum, perhaps there is a transparent proxy which is sometimes re-serving the decompressed content? ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012
On 3 June 2012 17:23, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Do not adjust your clocks! This is last weeks report more than a week late. This week's report will be less tardy (hopefully) and will have include the power logs from last week. Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom We tried using the nandblaster to update our XO-1.75s and discovered that it is not suited to our use case as it’s just too slow. We only have a modest number of laptops to update, and we have a reasonably noisy wifi environment. 2 laptops managed to do the update after two full cycles through the image and the rest we did with USB sticks. Perhaps if we had requested more redundancy for error correction, but even if it had completed successfully on the first pass, it would still be slower than flashing from USB, including copying the file onto the USB. If we were doing more laptops or we weren’t actively sitting waiting for them to finish then it would be really useful. olpc-au build 225 11.3.1-au on XO-1.5 Rosella: Paint: OK. Record: Picture ok, movie on low res ok. Movie on high res - after a while it is jumpy with frozen images. Audio seems ok http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1316 . Memorise: Single player numbers ok . Created game, saved it and played it ok. Measure First start with a lot of noise. Ok on second start. Clicking about does not seem to make it crash like the last time. Robot. asked ‘who makes the babies’ and it returns “/random name/ colon” Why is it saying colon? otherwise seems fine http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1318 Physics Seems fine hand grab works fine. No surprises there. Olli The sleep function does not seem to work when the activity is running. http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/1317 Ivy: Maze works Speak and robot works Browse - crashed when trying to view the whitehouse.gov website to sign the petition “Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research.” Memorize - played one sounds game but it was too quiet to hear if the guitar or drum was playing. Paint - works, can use the tools and add an image from Journal, the grayscale button has extremely different functionality to the rainbow button so I think they shouldn’t be placed together Firefox - the screen looks a bit odd with all the different sizes of fonts, clicked a few links on the front page and they seemed to work (could see lists of books, chemistry and biology page, images list). From the world culture images list pages there are back buttons that don’t work (they say file not found). Music plays from the media section. Maps take a while to load. on closing the firefox window it shows a firefox failed to start screen with a stop button Moon - works Clock - works Tamtam mini - works Stopwatch - works Measure - starts, can adjust settings Implode - works Arithmetic - works Numbers - works GCompris Clickgame - works 12.1.0 os11 on XO-1.75 On Kiwi, write works, including formatting and inserting images from record. On Kotare, started write, created a table and entered a few characters. Then shared within the neighbourhood and write stopped accepting data from the keyboard, cut and past and drag and drop still work, other applications still work with the keyboard, search box in write does not. Had whio freeze after inserting a USB drive after stopping tcpdump As reported last time and the time before, our yum problems persist. It seems the first invocation works but subsequent invocations do not. rpmdropbox.laptop.org is reporting what appears to be an incorrect content-type: $ echo GET /f17/repodata/primary.xml.gz HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.4.3 Host: rpmdropbox.laptop.org Accept: */* | nc rpmdropbox.laptop.org 80 |head -n 12 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 00:58:23 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.6 proxy_html/3.0.0 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/1.3 Python/2.5.2 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:30:07 GMT ETag: 1ac806b-25d5-4c0c692df2dc0 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 9685 Content-Type: application/xml Content-Encoding: x-gzip ... Putting the same file on my own server yields an application/x-gzip content type and no content encoding. It’s not clear whether or how this is related to the problems we see with yum, perhaps there is a transparent proxy which is sometimes re-serving the decompressed content? ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au* ___ Devel mailing list
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012
On 3 June 2012 17:23, Tom Parker t...@carrott.org wrote: Do not adjust your clocks! This is last weeks report more than a week late. This week's report will be less tardy (hopefully) and will have include the power logs from last week. Testing Summary, Auckland - 26 May 2012 Who: Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha, Tom We tried using the nandblaster to update our XO-1.75s and discovered that it is not suited to our use case as it’s just too slow. We only have a modest number of laptops to update, and we have a reasonably noisy wifi environment. 2 laptops managed to do the update after two full cycles through the image and the rest we did with USB sticks. Perhaps if we had requested more redundancy for error correction, but even if it had completed successfully on the first pass, it would still be slower than flashing from USB, including copying the file onto the USB. If we were doing more laptops or we weren’t actively sitting waiting for them to finish then it would be really useful. olpc-au build 225 11.3.1-au on XO-1.5 Rosella: Paint: OK. Record: Picture ok, movie on low res ok. Movie on high res - after a while it is jumpy with frozen images. Audio seems ok. Can you give me a little bit more information for the above issue?For example screenshots, log files etc. Memorise: Single player numbers ok . Created game, saved it and played it ok. Measure First start with a lot of noise. Ok on second start. Clicking about does not seem to make it crash like the last time. Robot. asked ‘who makes the babies’ and it returns “/random name/ colon” Why is it saying colon? otherwise seems fine Physics Seems fine hand grab works fine. No surprises there. Olli The sleep function does not seem to work when the activity is running. Ivy: Maze works Speak and robot works Browse - crashed when trying to view the whitehouse.gov website to sign the petition “Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research.” Memorize - played one sounds game but it was too quiet to hear if the guitar or drum was playing. Paint - works, can use the tools and add an image from Journal, the grayscale button has extremely different functionality to the rainbow button so I think they shouldn’t be placed together Firefox - the screen looks a bit odd with all the different sizes of fonts, clicked a few links on the front page and they seemed to work (could see lists of books, chemistry and biology page, images list). From the world culture images list pages there are back buttons that don’t work (they say file not found). Music plays from the media section. Maps take a while to load. on closing the firefox window it shows a firefox failed to start screen with a stop button Moon - works Clock - works Tamtam mini - works Stopwatch - works Measure - starts, can adjust settings Implode - works Arithmetic - works Numbers - works GCompris Clickgame - works 12.1.0 os11 on XO-1.75 On Kiwi, write works, including formatting and inserting images from record. On Kotare, started write, created a table and entered a few characters. Then shared within the neighbourhood and write stopped accepting data from the keyboard, cut and past and drag and drop still work, other applications still work with the keyboard, search box in write does not. Had whio freeze after inserting a USB drive after stopping tcpdump As reported last time and the time before, our yum problems persist. It seems the first invocation works but subsequent invocations do not. rpmdropbox.laptop.org is reporting what appears to be an incorrect content-type: $ echo GET /f17/repodata/primary.xml.gz HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: urlgrabber/3.9.1 yum/3.4.3 Host: rpmdropbox.laptop.org Accept: */* | nc rpmdropbox.laptop.org 80 |head -n 12 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 00:58:23 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.6 proxy_html/3.0.0 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/1.3 Python/2.5.2 mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Thu, 24 May 2012 11:30:07 GMT ETag: 1ac806b-25d5-4c0c692df2dc0 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 9685 Content-Type: application/xml Content-Encoding: x-gzip ... Putting the same file on my own server yields an application/x-gzip content type and no content encoding. It’s not clear whether or how this is related to the problems we see with yum, perhaps there is a transparent proxy which is sometimes re-serving the decompressed content? ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- *___ * *Deepak Muddha Software Test Engineer * * One Laptop per Child Australia* * M: 91 8897367762 E: dee...@laptop.org.au W: **www.laptop.org.au* http://www.laptop.org.au/* dee...@laptop.org.au* ___ Devel mailing list Devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] latest test image for testing
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 22:43 +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Thanks to you and the rest of the team for your hard work on this. On 28 February 2012 21:22, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: -- auto shutdown after five minutes I don't think this is a good idea - it can be very disruptive. Suspend is much better as it saves a lot of power and still provides quick recovery. That will not be the final setting, the XO does suspend, but didn't think testers wishing to evaluate powerd wait 5 mins to see if the shutdown is graceful. I have an eye towards Peter's test case with his activity installation script, the screen should dim/blank but the process should continue without having to hit a key to have the script continue. This will be returned to default for production. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] latest test image for testing
On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 13:27 -0500, Chris Leonard wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Jerry Vonau je...@laptop.org.au wrote: Hi All: I have the latest dextrose based builds ready for your evaluation from here. Jerrry, Just out of curiousity are you using (or including en_GB). Not sure whose spelling conventions you Aussies follow, but I would guess en_GB over en_US. I patched sugar's rpm to include en_GB when building and that works, for the most part Australia and Canada go with the en_GB spelling conventions. When I patched en_AU to be included the rpm the build failed. What would it take to get en_AU in sugar proper? Copy en_GB over to en_AU? FYI, there is now a PO file for the diff between glu94 and dx3 sugar.po versions. You would want to merge glu94 and the diff file to get a complete dx3 version of sugar.po. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/dextrose/ Good to know. Thanks, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
The XO-1.5 does not overheat if used properly. The XO-1.5 has higher CPU performance than an XO-1, and also generates more heat than an XO-1. The heat is transfered through a heat spreader to the upper casing. The total heat generated is limited by the battery capacity. If the temperature exceeds a set point, the processor is stopped, and further heat generation is significantly reduced. This is under control of the hardware, not the software. However, it is easy for incorrect impressions about the design to spread, based on ad-hoc analysis and reporting. For example, because of an episode of damage that happened when a stack of laptops was left on and their lid sensors interacted, and because of the use of early prototypes with an incomplete heat spreader, no doubt a myth has developed that the thermal design of the laptop is bad. However, the software has been enhanced to fix the lid sensor interaction, and the heat spreaders of early prototypes can be tested and fixed. Moreover, our tests in ovens showed that the thermal design can be trusted. What's the context of your questions? Please give more detail. I've tested; if the lid is closed after the shutdown option is selected in Sugar, the lid close suspend is avoided, the screen shows the shutdown UL warnings, and within the normal time for a shutdown (i.e. depending on the speed of the internal microSD), it turns off the power. In addition, opening the lid does not cancel the shutdown, nor does opening and closing the lid rapidly. These tests were with build 883, OLPC OS 11.3.0 on XO-1.5. You should test with your own builds, especially if you make any alterations to the powerd configuration or the kernel. You can verify from power logs whether the users have properly shutdown their laptops. Please ensure this logging works well, as it will give you good data. Obtain the logs whenever there is a report of laptop thermal issues. Require that the logging is implemented as part of any remedial action. There is certainly possibility for damage if the laptop is placed in an insulated bag or stacked with other laptops without being shutdown. There is also possibility of damage to other items in an insulated bag. Physically shutting the lid ... alone ... may increase the temperature of the laptop, but not to a great extent, and only if the software does not shutdown. The increase is from the reduced cooling available; the front face is insulated by the keyboard, and the back face is no longer vertical. As a result of not being vertical, the airflow is reduced, which reduces the transfer of heat to the air. I don't think a powered-on XO gets very hot at all if the lid is shut. It merely grows slightly warmer. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 09:04:40PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: What happens if the XO's lid is closed after the shutdown option is selected in Sugar? Is there a chance that the XO does not shut down - e.g. suspends or gets stuck in some limbo state? Is there a possibility for them to get damaged? I'd think that a powered-on XO would get very hot if the lid was shut. Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 ?? ? Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
Hi Sridhar, My guess is that it would shut down OR go into suspend. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 08:04, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: What happens if the XO's lid is closed after the shutdown option is selected in Sugar? Is there a chance that the XO does not shut down - e.g. suspends or gets stuck in some limbo state? Is there a possibility for them to get damaged? I'd think that a powered-on XO would get very hot if the lid was shut. Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Engineering Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- Anish ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
On 14 February 2012 22:09, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: For example, because of an episode of damage that happened when a stack of laptops was left on and their lid sensors interacted, and because of the use of early prototypes with an incomplete heat spreader, no doubt a myth has developed that the thermal design of the laptop is bad. Not a myth, just a concern and a need on my part to understand the implementation better. You can verify from power logs whether the users have properly shutdown their laptops. Please ensure this logging works well, as it will give you good data. Obtain the logs whenever there is a report of laptop thermal issues. Require that the logging is implemented as part of any remedial action. Agreed. We are working on a means to more easily collect this information from the field. I don't think a powered-on XO gets very hot at all if the lid is shut. It merely grows slightly warmer. What about if it's also charging in an XOP rack? Thanks, Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: What about if it's also charging in an XOP rack? Tell people your actual adventure, all details. The time of the OLPC team is valuable; we try to help you, but we have a lot of other things on our table. Help us help you. cheers, m martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
sridhar wrote: On 14 February 2012 22:09, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: For example, because of an episode of damage that happened when a stack of laptops was left on and their lid sensors interacted, and because of the use of early prototypes with an incomplete heat spreader, no doubt a myth has developed that the thermal design of the laptop is bad. Not a myth, just a concern and a need on my part to understand the implementation better. You can verify from power logs whether the users have properly shutdown their laptops. Please ensure this logging works well, as it will give you good data. Obtain the logs whenever there is a report of laptop thermal issues. Require that the logging is implemented as part of any remedial action. Agreed. We are working on a means to more easily collect this information from the field. I don't think a powered-on XO gets very hot at all if the lid is shut. It merely grows slightly warmer. What about if it's also charging in an XOP rack? in that case i think this part of james' reply is the pertinent part: There is certainly possibility for damage if the laptop is ... stacked with other laptops without being shutdown. a powered-on laptop with a closed lid might get warm. but it's not an issue unless there are a stack (or a rack) of such laptops. that's why we've gone to some effort to ensure the system stays off when the lid switch is triggered (even though that's a very convenient feature -- i can tell you it hurt to disable it.) as for closing the lid after commencing shutdown? once powerd commences the shutdown sequence, it won't return to its main loop before exiting or being killed, so there's little chance of it causing a suspend due to the closed lid. if the shutdown process got hung somewhere, i suppose it's possible that powerd might be respawned (i'll check on that), and run far enough to cause a suspend -- but i'm skeptical. (at that point the system was already in trouble, so arguably suspending would be better than not, anyway.) paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] lid close while shutting down
On 15 February 2012 02:30, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: What about if it's also charging in an XOP rack? Tell people your actual adventure, all details. The time of the OLPC team is valuable; we try to help you, but we have a lot of other things on our table. Help us help you. I'm dealing directly with OLPCA on this. You'll see the messages :) Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] limits on ad-hoc connections
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: No, that's not how ad-hoc works. I'll simplify and translate for you. Your explanation is correct but doesn't exactly match the buggy behaviour of our wireless hardware/firmware. As far as I can tell, the ad-hoc nodes in our setup make no attempt to synchronize clocks/beacons, nor do they stop transmitting their own beacons in the presence of another node transmitting beacons too. I guess this is why our ad-hoc networks perform slower and less reliably than the XO-1 mesh, which at least had synchronization. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] limits on ad-hoc connections
On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:16:53PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Ad-hoc connections only scale to a limited number of participants before problems begin to occur. What are the problems you observe? It may be that the problems you observe are not due to the ad-hoc network, but due to something else as well. What would be the maximum number of participants that an ad-hoc network can reliably handle? There's no maximum that I know of. A well placed set of laptops that can hear each other, with no outside noise, can operate an ad-hoc network to a quite large size. One node will be the beacon. Once you place traffic on the network, things will slow down. Once the slow down is enough, certain applications may fail. Can we impose a hard limit on the number of clients to prevent too many XOs connecting to a single ad-hoc session? No, there is no control for that as far as I know. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] limits on ad-hoc connections
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 03:11:42PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Hmm I am thinking that my understanding of the ad-hoc implementation might be incorrect. I was under the assumption that one XO acts as the ad-hoc host, and the others connect to it. That made me wonder whether that host could limit how many clients connect to it. No, that's not how ad-hoc works. I'll simplify and translate for you. In an 802.11 wireless ad-hoc network, each node has the duty and right to be the beacon, especially if there is no other beacon heard. The beacon is used for timing the transmissions, so that they occur in empty time. Transmissions that occur simultaneously would interfere with each other, and the receivers would be more likely to miss them. Always, the first node to begin an ad-hoc network begins by being the beacon. If a node cannot hear a beacon, then after a very short while it will try to become the beacon. In effect, they compete for the job, in a psuedo-random fashion. This is implemented in the wireless device firmware, not in the host, not in the CPU, not in the kernel, not in the user-space networking tools. If a cluster of XOs that have formed an ad-hoc network, are slowly spread out physically, then eventually the responsibility for beacon should tend to be in the centre of the cluster. If a cluster of XOs is split in two, and the two groups slowly moved apart from each other, then eventually two beacons will be active and there will be two networks. References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timing_Synchronization_Function_%28TSF%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beacon_frame http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_indication_map (ad-hoc is IBSS) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] limits on ad-hoc connections
To expand on James' excellent notes... On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:59 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: The beacon is used for timing the transmissions, so that they occur in And that is _all_ it can do. It just broadcasts a beacon, like a metronome for a band recording in a studio. This is implemented in the wireless device firmware, not in the host, not in the CPU, not in the kernel, not in the user-space networking tools. In other words, in practice we can't patch it to be smarter. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Unable to Browse the Internet from XO
On 27 January 2012 12:45, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Good Day All, I am currently using the 1.5 XO at a couple of schools. I am able to connect to the school server and hence access moodle instance on the server itself. However i am unable to browse the internet from the XO. OK you have dhcp/dns working between the XO's and the XS, how is eth1 receiving it's ip address? What is missing in the stock XS-0.6 config is external name resolution. You need alter the named-xs.conf.in file as per: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php?title=XS_Techniques_and_Configurationaction=editsection=24and add your isp's dns server as forwarders to that file. Jerry I have connected the ETH1 to the ISP switch and still no success. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Brian Hall ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] csound sources for XO-1.75
Hi Sridhar, On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Are there any sources for csound for the XO-1.75? While we can find the source for csound in i386i-F14 at: http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f14-i686/tree/SRPMS There appears to be no source for ARM available in: http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/tree/SRPMS http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel-updates-11.3.0/tree/SRPMS http://mock.laptop.org/cgit/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel-updates-11.3.1/tree/SRPMS http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f14-arm/ http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f14-xo1.75/ Is csound yet to be ported to ARM? All the source for Fedora 14 ARM is the same as x86 F14. The srpm package for csound on ARM is the same as the package for mainline. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
RE: [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File
Hi Jerry, Thanks for your assistance. Its now up. As you said the issue was the udp in the proto line. Regards, Brian From: Jerry Vonau [mailto:je...@laptop.org.au] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:49 PM To: HALL,Brian C Cc: Jerry Vonau; craig.pe...@gmail.com; OLPC Australia list; Sridhar Dhanapalan; Kevin Gordon; OLPC Devel; Sameer Verma (sv3...@gmail.com); XS Devel Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File Hi Brian: First thing is you have a typo in the .conf file correct the proto line, is should be udp. For further setup information have a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config Jerry On 21 November 2011 08:20, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jmmailto:brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Good Morning All, In installing openvpn I didn't see a client.conf file. I want my XS to connect to a vpn server. In essence the XS will be the vpn client. I have my vpn keys and in trying to create the client.conf file I received some errors. The issue is that when I created my client.conf file then restarted the openvpn service, it did not start. Iam able to stop it but not start. I had previously gotten a site to look at regarding openvpn configuration however the site is now down. See the below client.conf file I created using a couple web sites. client dev tun proto upd user nobody group nogroup ca /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt key /etc/openvpn/keys/*.key remote IP_ADDRESS 1194 resolv-retry infinite nobind mute-replay-warnings ___ Not sure where I went wrong. Iam assuming that I missed a couple lines..Not sure where. Regards, Brian ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.orgmailto:olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File
Hi Jerry, Thanks for your assistance. Its now up. As you said the issue was the udp in the proto line. Regards, Brian From: Jerry Vonau [mailto:je...@laptop.org.au] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:49 PM To: HALL,Brian C Cc: Jerry Vonau; craig.pe...@gmail.com; OLPC Australia list; Sridhar Dhanapalan; Kevin Gordon; OLPC Devel; Sameer Verma (sv3...@gmail.com); XS Devel Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File Hi Brian: First thing is you have a typo in the .conf file correct the proto line, is should be udp. For further setup information have a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config Jerry On 21 November 2011 08:20, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jmmailto:brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Good Morning All, In installing openvpn I didn't see a client.conf file. I want my XS to connect to a vpn server. In essence the XS will be the vpn client. I have my vpn keys and in trying to create the client.conf file I received some errors. The issue is that when I created my client.conf file then restarted the openvpn service, it did not start. Iam able to stop it but not start. I had previously gotten a site to look at regarding openvpn configuration however the site is now down. See the below client.conf file I created using a couple web sites. client dev tun proto upd user nobody group nogroup ca /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt key /etc/openvpn/keys/*.key remote IP_ADDRESS 1194 resolv-retry infinite nobind mute-replay-warnings ___ Not sure where I went wrong. Iam assuming that I missed a couple lines..Not sure where. Regards, Brian ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.orgmailto:olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4030 - Release Date: 11/21/11 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] VPN Client.conf File
Hi Brian: First thing is you have a typo in the .conf file correct the proto line, is should be udp. For further setup information have a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#config Jerry On 21 November 2011 08:20, HALL,Brian C brian.hal...@uwimona.edu.jm wrote: Good Morning All, In installing openvpn I didn’t see a client.conf file. I want my XS to connect to a vpn server. In essence the XS will be the vpn client. I have my vpn keys and in trying to create the client.conf file I received some errors. The issue is that when I created my client.conf file then restarted the openvpn service, it did not start. Iam able to stop it but not start. I had previously gotten a site to look at regarding openvpn configuration however the site is now down. See the below client.conf file I created using a couple web sites. client dev tun proto upd user nobody group nogroup ca /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/*.crt key /etc/openvpn/keys/*.key remote IP_ADDRESS 1194 resolv-retry infinite nobind mute-replay-warnings ___ Not sure where I went wrong. Iam assuming that I missed a couple lines..Not sure where. Regards, Brian ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] Host AP on XO-1.75 and XO-3
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Just wondering whether the XO-1.75 and XO-3 will be capable of hosting a wireless network. I'm asking because we are interested in using an XO as a lightweight XS server. The XO 1.75 uses the exact same wifi module as the 1.5 so the functionality is the same, and so you'll be able to on the 1.75, there's still discussion on the OS for the 3.0 but then I'm not sure how usable a tablet would be as a server anyway. If I could be so bold as to posit to the community: I'm not sure whether the request as stated, and answer as given, is actually the case, in an out-of-the box, especially if you have a mixed XO environment. If by acting as an AP, you mean appearing on the neighbourhood view as an AP, and not a peer, and then providing a shared internet connection, in my experience, that really isn't provided by a vanilla install of the XO software, even on the 1.5. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Server_Kit for more information on the software that will be running on the school/classroom server. The Sugar Server Kit modularized the existing OLPC-XS and provides a community level 'tool kit' for creating a school or classroom level servers. The Sugar Server Kit Provide a split between the community level project (Sugar Server Kit) and any number of downstream solutions based on the community project. This should stimulate the downstream community to contribute to this upstream community project, facilitating reuse of its experience in all other downstreams; Treat the community project as a collection of useful tools, created and supported by community contributors, that might be composed into a final deployment solution on purpose, i.e., Sugar Server Kit is not an OS or a final solution, but rather a bunch of tools that might be launched on any major GNU/Linux distribution at the deployment level. And because some of these tools might be implemented in several ways, it should make the acceptance process of new features by upstream more flexible; The whole system should be as reliable as possible. Thus, the community project will provide a decent testing environment (several levels of automatic and human driven tests at the top level), which might be used not only for Sugar Server Kit itself, but for deployment solutions as well. david Once all the XO buddies (XO 1 and 1.5) atttach to a 'real' AP, all machines on that AP can see each other, and get out to the Internet through the AP's running as a router. In the other case, in a mixed XO1 and XO1.5 environment where everyone attaches to a single XO 1.5 on the ad-hoc network, without some custom routing entries, I can't see it providing a shared internet connection. Not to say it cant be done, but I haven't found it to work that way out of the box. So, I guess it depends on what you mean by 'using an XO as a lightweight XS server', and whether you will install your own O/S and a subset of the existing XS code on the 1.75, pretty much like you would have too to on the1.5 to get it to act like a real AP and router and server. Putting a wireless router an AP in the middle with a default route to another XO on a separate subnet running some XS server code that in turn connects out maybe the USB ethernet port to the WAN might work. Without some real router protocols active, hairpinning issues will also arise if you try to just hook back to the same subnet. So bottom line (unless I'm way out of the loop in ancient history - which sometimes happens) , is that from what Peter is saying, if you already have an acceptable infrastucture which is currently working on an XO 1.5, then there is no reason for it not to work on a 1.75. However it would be my prediction that if you were hoping to have a vanilla XO 1.75 now run as a WAP, that may still not be as simple as you want. Cheers KG Peter ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1.75 relative performance
I'm not aware of any comprehensive performance assessments. Have you got an XO-1.75 yet? Performance is a design goal of OLPC, but it isn't first in the list. The full list is: 1. Safe -- no children should be harmed 2. Stylish and Usable -- something children want to own 3. Lowest Power -- low power means longer run-time 4. Lowest Cost -- a lower cost means more children can have one 5. Robust and Maintainable -- children drop things 6. Performance (speed) If we find we are sacrificing, say, Lowest Power for Performance reasons, we would be obliged to think again. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1.75 relative performance
On 11/01/2011 08:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: the online benchmarks will probably be Android-based, and won't tell you anything about battery life and power consumption, where OLPC has put its focus and made great improvements.) I suppose Its probably time to start throwing out some worst case battery life numbers. We have built enough revs of the 1.75 now that the works case numbers aren't going to change. My battery logs show that the minimum useful Wh we get out of our battery is 18Wh. Fully loaded I've yet to see the XO-1.75 draw more than 5W [1]. So 18Wh/5W is 3.6h. I feel safe in saying that regardless of what you do on the 1.75 you are going to get 3.5 hours of battery life. Period. Thats a lot better than the worst case values of 1.5 which was difficult to pin down. Since suspend/resume is still undergoing heavy development I don't have any good estimates yet for user based workloads but early indicators look promising. In the coming weeks I'll get some good numbers. An interesting data point is that the 1.75 is the first laptop of the XO series that has ran 100% from a solar panel for an extended period. During my solar testing I often swap in different batteries. The 1.75 can consistently survive battery removal under moderate solar conditions when connected to the OLPC 10W solar panel. [1] Excluding connecting an external USB device drawing full power which would be an extra 5W. -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Host AP on XO-1.75 and XO-3
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Just wondering whether the XO-1.75 and XO-3 will be capable of hosting a wireless network. I'm asking because we are interested in using an XO as a lightweight XS server. The XO 1.75 uses the exact same wifi module as the 1.5 so the functionality is the same, and so you'll be able to on the 1.75, there's still discussion on the OS for the 3.0 but then I'm not sure how usable a tablet would be as a server anyway. If I could be so bold as to posit to the community: I'm not sure whether the request as stated, and answer as given, is actually the case, in an out-of-the box, especially if you have a mixed XO environment. If by acting as an AP, you mean appearing on the neighbourhood view as an AP, and not a peer, and then providing a shared internet connection, in my experience, that really isn't provided by a vanilla install of the XO software, even on the 1.5. Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Server_Kit for more information on the software that will be running on the school/classroom server. The Sugar Server Kit modularized the existing OLPC-XS and provides a community level 'tool kit' for creating a school or classroom level servers. The Sugar Server Kit Provide a split between the community level project (Sugar Server Kit) and any number of downstream solutions based on the community project. This should stimulate the downstream community to contribute to this upstream community project, facilitating reuse of its experience in all other downstreams; Treat the community project as a collection of useful tools, created and supported by community contributors, that might be composed into a final deployment solution on purpose, i.e., Sugar Server Kit is not an OS or a final solution, but rather a bunch of tools that might be launched on any major GNU/Linux distribution at the deployment level. And because some of these tools might be implemented in several ways, it should make the acceptance process of new features by upstream more flexible; The whole system should be as reliable as possible. Thus, the community project will provide a decent testing environment (several levels of automatic and human driven tests at the top level), which might be used not only for Sugar Server Kit itself, but for deployment solutions as well. david Once all the XO buddies (XO 1 and 1.5) atttach to a 'real' AP, all machines on that AP can see each other, and get out to the Internet through the AP's running as a router. In the other case, in a mixed XO1 and XO1.5 environment where everyone attaches to a single XO 1.5 on the ad-hoc network, without some custom routing entries, I can't see it providing a shared internet connection. Not to say it cant be done, but I haven't found it to work that way out of the box. So, I guess it depends on what you mean by 'using an XO as a lightweight XS server', and whether you will install your own O/S and a subset of the existing XS code on the 1.75, pretty much like you would have too to on the1.5 to get it to act like a real AP and router and server. Putting a wireless router an AP in the middle with a default route to another XO on a separate subnet running some XS server code that in turn connects out maybe the USB ethernet port to the WAN might work. Without some real router protocols active, hairpinning issues will also arise if you try to just hook back to the same subnet. So bottom line (unless I'm way out of the loop in ancient history - which sometimes happens) , is that from what Peter is saying, if you already have an acceptable infrastucture which is currently working on an XO 1.5, then there is no reason for it not to work on a 1.75. However it would be my prediction that if you were hoping to have a vanilla XO 1.75 now run as a WAP, that may still not be as simple as you want. Cheers KG Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC-AU release candidate RC4 (au868)
Hi all: There is a new image to be tested: http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC4/ The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes Delta updater: http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC4/delta.zip This grew by 30MB to 70MB due to an update to version 10 of biology.xol. I can put together a slimmed down version if there is interest. Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our system) that we need testing are: * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] * Browse activity [#654] * Speak activity, bumped to version 28, with english_rp voice [#718] * Screencast activity, bumped to version 3 [#692] * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] * camorama in GNOME [#558] * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] * Firefox is remembering passwords [801] * Firefox default paper is not A4 [803] * Scratch's udev rules pre-installed, no user intervention needed. * Biology library version 10 Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC4 (au868)
This grew by 30MB to 70MB due to an update to version 10 of biology.xol. I can put together a slimmed down version if there is interest. Why is bigger? biology 10 must have the same size of biology 9. Gonzalo ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC4 (au868)
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 15:41 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: This grew by 30MB to 70MB due to an update to version 10 of biology.xol. I can put together a slimmed down version if there is interest. Why is bigger? biology 10 must have the same size of biology 9. Gonzalo We shipped version 9 with au1 au2, we want to upgrade the XOs in the field to version 10 and have included the library in the zip file to do that. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC4 (au868)
Sorry I misinterpreted your mail. Gonzalo On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 15:41 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: This grew by 30MB to 70MB due to an update to version 10 of biology.xol. I can put together a slimmed down version if there is interest. Why is bigger? biology 10 must have the same size of biology 9. Gonzalo We shipped version 9 with au1 au2, we want to upgrade the XOs in the field to version 10 and have included the library in the zip file to do that. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. Andrew Melbourne testing group meets on the third Saturday of every month http://wiki.laptop.org/go/MelbourneXOClub We are testing au868 tomorrow. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
I'll try this tomorrow night when I come home. thanks, Andrew On 08/07/2011, at 4:57 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: The Melbourne XO Club meets on 16 July, as part of the LUV Beginners' Workshop: http://lists.luv.asn.au/wws/arc/luv-announce/2011-07/msg1.html http://luv.asn.au/2011/07/16 We need to have a release out by 25 July, which is the start of Term 3 in Northern Territory schools. This release won't be directly available for XO-1s (we're phasing those out). You can install our last (and latest stable) release (10.1.3-au2) and run the upgrade routine. Your feedback on this would be very valuable, as this is our intended method of getting our XO-1s onto 10.1.3-au3. Installing 10.1.3-au2[0] can be done by directly writing the image to the XO, or through our XO-AU USB 2[1]. Once your XO is flashed and working, you can run the upgrade routine as already outlined. To repeat: 1. extract the ZIP file[3] to a USB drive 2. plug into the XO 3. turn on Once the upgrade stick verifies that you have a 10.1.3-au release installed, it will upgrade the OS to 10.1.3-au3. Cheers, Sridhar [0] http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au2_release_notes [1] http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/USB/2/xo-au-usb-2-xo1.zip [3] http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip On 8 July 2011 09:25, Andrew van der Stock vande...@gmail.com wrote: Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. thanks, Andrew On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Thanks. Looks neat, well done. Please upstream any useful stuff. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
The Melbourne XO Club meets on 16 July, as part of the LUV Beginners' Workshop: http://lists.luv.asn.au/wws/arc/luv-announce/2011-07/msg1.html http://luv.asn.au/2011/07/16 We need to have a release out by 25 July, which is the start of Term 3 in Northern Territory schools. This release won't be directly available for XO-1s (we're phasing those out). You can install our last (and latest stable) release (10.1.3-au2) and run the upgrade routine. Your feedback on this would be very valuable, as this is our intended method of getting our XO-1s onto 10.1.3-au3. Installing 10.1.3-au2[0] can be done by directly writing the image to the XO, or through our XO-AU USB 2[1]. Once your XO is flashed and working, you can run the upgrade routine as already outlined. To repeat: 1. extract the ZIP file[3] to a USB drive 2. plug into the XO 3. turn on Once the upgrade stick verifies that you have a 10.1.3-au release installed, it will upgrade the OS to 10.1.3-au3. Cheers, Sridhar [0] http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au2_release_notes [1] http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/USB/2/xo-au-usb-2-xo1.zip [3] http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip On 8 July 2011 09:25, Andrew van der Stock vande...@gmail.com wrote: Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. thanks, Andrew On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Thanks. Looks neat, well done. Please upstream any useful stuff. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
Hi all: There is a new image to be tested: http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC3/ The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our system) that we need testing are: * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] * Browse activity [#654] * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718] * Screencast activity [#692] * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] * camorama in GNOME [#558] * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] * Firefox is remembering passwords [801] * Firefox default paper is not A4 [803] Thanks in advance, Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
On 8 July 2011 00:39, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi all: There is a new image to be tested: http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC3/ The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes In addition, we have developed an method for users of 10.1.3-au1 and 10.1.3-au2 to quickly, easily and losslessly upgrade to 10.1.3-au3. The RC (36.1MB) is available at https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/changes/key/delta.zip Instructions are simple: 1. extract the ZIP file to a USB drive 2. plug into the XO 3. turn on If you want the firmware to upgrade, you'll also need the XO plugged into mains power with a full battery. Enjoy, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:54:10AM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/changes/key/delta.zip wget gives me an 8615 byte file. That can't be right. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
On 8 July 2011 08:58, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:54:10AM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/changes/key/delta.zip wget gives me an 8615 byte file. That can't be right. My bad - thanks for telling me. That link points to the revisions page. The file itself is at http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 08:58 +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:54:10AM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/changes/key/delta.zip wget gives me an 8615 byte file. That can't be right. Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Thanks. Looks neat, well done. Please upstream any useful stuff. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. thanks, Andrew On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Thanks. Looks neat, well done. Please upstream any useful stuff. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
Hi Andrew We will be testing au867 http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC3/. If you want to join us virtually, we (Auckland testing) meet Saturdays at 11am (well, 11:30am by the time we set up) NZ time. We are on IRC freenode and could test together communicating on #olpc-au if you like. Kind regards Tabitha Roder Cell +64 21 482229 tabi...@tabitha.net.nz On 8 July 2011 11:25, Andrew van der Stock vande...@gmail.com wrote: Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. thanks, Andrew On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:14 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 06:07:12PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: Need to use what the download url is in redmine, this should be correct: https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au-usb/repository/revisions/delta/raw/key/delta.zip Thanks. Looks neat, well done. Please upstream any useful stuff. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC-AU revised release candidate
Hi all: Please do not use RC1, there was a typo that broke some the customizations in the build. If you downloaded it I'm sorry for wasting your bandwidth, there is a new image on the way soon[1]. There is one additional feature to be tested: * Firefox is remembering passwords [801] Thanks for testing Jerry [1]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC2/ On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:39 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our system) that we need testing are: * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] * Browse activity [#654] * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718] * Screencast activity [#692] * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] * camorama in GNOME [#558] * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] Thanks, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au On 1 July 2011 08:43, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi All: This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload, so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level. The upload is in progress, please be patient. Thanks for testing, Jerry [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1 ___ olpc mailing list o...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC-AU revised release candidate
Sorry we could not test this as it wasn't available in time this morning. Tabitha On Jul 2, 2011 7:53 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi all: Please do not use RC1, there was a typo that broke some the customizations in the build. If you downloaded it I'm sorry for wasting your bandwidth, there is a new image on the way soon[1]. There is one additional feature to be tested: * Firefox is remembering passwords [801] Thanks for testing Jerry [1]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC2/ On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 12:39 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our system) that we need testing are: * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] * Browse activity [#654] * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718] * Screencast activity [#692] * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] * camorama in GNOME [#558] * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] Thanks, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au On 1 July 2011 08:43, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi All: This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload, so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level. The upload is in progress, please be patient. Thanks for testing, Jerry [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1 ___ olpc mailing list o...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC-AU
Hi All: This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload, so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level. The upload is in progress, please be patient. Thanks for testing, Jerry [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC-AU
The release notes, including links to the changes, is online at https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/wiki/1013-au3_release_notes Some things that have changed (with their issues numbers in our system) that we need testing are: * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] * Browse activity [#654] * Speak activity with english_rp voice [#718] * Screencast activity [#692] * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] * camorama in GNOME [#558] * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] Thanks, Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au On 1 July 2011 08:43, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi All: This is to announce that we may have a Release Candidate with the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 featuring sparse file support[1], is now available for testing[2]. This build has q3a65 firmware in the payload, so you might get an upgrade if your firmware is not up to that level. The upload is in progress, please be patient. Thanks for testing, Jerry [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC1 ___ olpc mailing list o...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing sprase file support for 10.1.3
Could this be due to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10930 ? Sridhar On 24 June 2011 16:43, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks Tony. Logged at https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/773 Sridhar On 12 June 2011 16:19, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Jerry Testing au77 ctrl v will not paste image to Write, no error logged, paste from tool bar works ok but does log a warning got plain filename ... in UT_go_file_open Think I have seen this before in other OS images image in clipboard was sourced from Browse using right mouse copy image Tony Quoting Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: Hi All: This is to announce the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 for testing featuring sparse file support [1], Browse-122, and Musicpainter-9 is available for testing [2]. With this release if you don't upgrade the firmware prior to testing you will receive a harmless warning at the end of fs-update about writing 1 block, this is resolved with q3a65 firmware. This newer firmware is not part of the build as not to trigger an auto firmware update on boot for those who don't want the latest firmware. For those who wish to use the latest firmware this is available from [3] and and the install instructions from [4]. If you want to test this newer firmware but with out going though the above routine, you could inject the OLPC-AU security keys using our olpc.fth script and install OLPC-AU signed firmware. Download and unzip [5] to / on your upgrade media (SD or USB) Download olpc.fth [6] to /boot on your upgrade media and place bootfw.zip from [7] into the same directory. The upgrade will occur when you boot with your media inserted, ensure you have the power adaptor plugged in. If you plan to use the 4 button upgrade or NandBlaster (need keys installed as above), download to your upgrade media from [2] au77.zd and au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip, then rename au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip to fs.zip. The OLPC-AU menu expects the new image to be named fs.zd. Once you transfer au77.zd to your upgrade media, rename it to fs.zd to be able to use option 1 or 2 on the menu. The installation of keys and firmware is optional, you can use option 1 to install your image, just skip unzipping the keys and adding the firmware. The first boot will install the security keys then reboot, second boot will install the newer firmware then reboot, third boot you should have the menu screen. Pressing 1 at the menu screen should start flashing the XO. Pressing 2 will start NandBlaster, this requires fs.zip to be present. Happy testing, Jerry ps, If I missed a list please forward this email. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/sparse/ [3]http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q3a65/ [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a65#fs-update_sparse_.zd_files [5]http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.3/keys/pubkeys.zip [6]https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/repository/revisions/master/raw/xo-release/olpc.fth [7]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/q3a65/bootfw.zip ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing sprase file support for 10.1.3
Sridhar Maybe but I dont think so. The problem was, I think, only for images, not text. Need to go back and check 10930 reads like it would apply to either text or image Tony Could this be due to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10930 ? Sridhar On 24 June 2011 16:43, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks Tony. Logged at https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/773 Sridhar On 12 June 2011 16:19, �fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Jerry Testing au77 ctrl v will not paste image to Write, no error logged, paste from tool bar works ok but does log a warning got plain filename ... in UT_go_file_open Think I have seen this before in other OS images image in clipboard was sourced from Browse using right mouse copy image Tony Quoting Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: Hi All: This is to announce the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 for testing featuring sparse file support [1], Browse-122, and Musicpainter-9 is available for testing [2]. With this release if you don't upgrade the firmware prior to testing you will receive a harmless warning at the end of fs-update about writing 1 block, this is resolved with q3a65 firmware. This newer firmware is not part of the build as not to trigger an auto firmware update on boot for those who don't want the latest firmware. For those who wish to use the latest firmware this is available from [3] and and the install instructions from [4]. If you want to test this newer firmware but with out going though the above routine, you could inject the OLPC-AU security keys using our olpc.fth script and install OLPC-AU signed firmware. Download and unzip [5] to / on your upgrade media (SD or USB) Download olpc.fth [6] to /boot on your upgrade media and place bootfw.zip from [7] into the same directory. The upgrade will occur when you boot with your media inserted, ensure you have the power adaptor plugged in. If you plan to use the 4 button upgrade or NandBlaster (need keys installed as above), download to your upgrade media from [2] au77.zd and au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip, then rename au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip to fs.zip. The OLPC-AU menu expects the new image to be named fs.zd. Once you transfer au77.zd to your upgrade media, rename it to fs.zd to be able to use option 1 or 2 on the menu. The installation of keys and firmware is optional, you can use option 1 to install your image, just skip unzipping the keys and adding the firmware. The first boot will install the security keys then reboot, second boot will install the newer firmware then reboot, third boot you should have the menu screen. Pressing 1 at the menu screen should start flashing the XO. Pressing 2 will start NandBlaster, this requires fs.zip to be present. Happy testing, Jerry ps, If I missed a list please forward this email. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/sparse/ [3]http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q3a65/ [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a65#fs-update_sparse_.zd_files [5]http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.3/keys/pubkeys.zip [6]https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/repository/revisions/master/raw/xo-release/olpc.fth [7]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/q3a65/bootfw.zip ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing sprase file support for 10.1.3
Thanks Tony. Logged at https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/773 Sridhar On 12 June 2011 16:19, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Jerry Testing au77 ctrl v will not paste image to Write, no error logged, paste from tool bar works ok but does log a warning got plain filename ... in UT_go_file_open Think I have seen this before in other OS images image in clipboard was sourced from Browse using right mouse copy image Tony Quoting Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: Hi All: This is to announce the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 for testing featuring sparse file support [1], Browse-122, and Musicpainter-9 is available for testing [2]. With this release if you don't upgrade the firmware prior to testing you will receive a harmless warning at the end of fs-update about writing 1 block, this is resolved with q3a65 firmware. This newer firmware is not part of the build as not to trigger an auto firmware update on boot for those who don't want the latest firmware. For those who wish to use the latest firmware this is available from [3] and and the install instructions from [4]. If you want to test this newer firmware but with out going though the above routine, you could inject the OLPC-AU security keys using our olpc.fth script and install OLPC-AU signed firmware. Download and unzip [5] to / on your upgrade media (SD or USB) Download olpc.fth [6] to /boot on your upgrade media and place bootfw.zip from [7] into the same directory. The upgrade will occur when you boot with your media inserted, ensure you have the power adaptor plugged in. If you plan to use the 4 button upgrade or NandBlaster (need keys installed as above), download to your upgrade media from [2] au77.zd and au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip, then rename au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip to fs.zip. The OLPC-AU menu expects the new image to be named fs.zd. Once you transfer au77.zd to your upgrade media, rename it to fs.zd to be able to use option 1 or 2 on the menu. The installation of keys and firmware is optional, you can use option 1 to install your image, just skip unzipping the keys and adding the firmware. The first boot will install the security keys then reboot, second boot will install the newer firmware then reboot, third boot you should have the menu screen. Pressing 1 at the menu screen should start flashing the XO. Pressing 2 will start NandBlaster, this requires fs.zip to be present. Happy testing, Jerry ps, If I missed a list please forward this email. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/sparse/ [3]http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q3a65/ [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a65#fs-update_sparse_.zd_files [5]http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.3/keys/pubkeys.zip [6]https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/repository/revisions/master/raw/xo-release/olpc.fth [7]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/q3a65/bootfw.zip ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] More 'human' voice synth (TTS)
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.auwrote: I'm wondering if there's anything we can do to make TTS sound more 'human'. We'd like to be able to use the XOs to teach English literacy, but the espeak voices are very robotic. My understanding is that espeak is optimised for low-power devices (great for XOs) and clear (if robotic) speech. Would it be feasible to switch to something else, like festival? You might want to look at speed-dispatcher. It can be configured for multiple backends. Its already packaged in Fedora. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] OLPC Australia XS concerns
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: I think my biggest technical concerns in XS-land are twofold: * we need the XS to behave well on an *existing* network (i.e. single interface), without trying to be a gateway or duplicating core network services (DNS, DHCP, etc.) * while other XS efforts are keen to add features, we want to be as trim as possible We started the XS-AU when it had become clear that XS development had slowed. We could find no alternative that satisfied our needs, and I felt it better to go our own way rather than complaining that the XS didn't meet our particular use case (which seems to be quite different from other deployments). It's been working very well, and it's quite low-maintenance for us. We'll need a good reason to jump ship. We've been working on a prototype XS Lite, which is essentially an XS-AU with everything except ejabberd stripped away. Our deployments are done at the classroom-level; a teacher receives XOs for the children in their class once they have completed the necessary training. We would like to provide a simple server with that allocation of XOs. This means that the server needs to be low-cost and easy to implement (plug-and-play). We are assuming that there is *no* technical expertise available at the school. The server doesn't have to be very capable. Anything that requires registration won't work for us as the turnover of teachers and students is too high. We don't need Moodle or anything similar, since such services are already provided on the state education network. Since it's based on the XS-AU, it can be 'upgraded' to a full XS with some yum commands. Given the modest requirements, I think an XO would be suitable hardware. They are cheap and reliable, and we already have them in stock. As a standalone collaboration server, the XO's WLAN can be the AP. If we need to connect to the school network, we can use a USB2Ethernet adapter. This will also allow the server to leverage the other APs in the school. What's important is that we need to be tolerant of multiple schoolservers on the network, potentially one per class. To be honest I think your actually going about it all wrong. XS is designed to be a do it all server for people that don't want to think. If you only want a jabber server (or certain components) I think you'd be much better off just using CentOS and installing ejabberd. Why start big and remove everything when its easier just to start with a base server and add one thing? You could even create a virtual appliance to plug into any virtual infra that the school might have, boot it off a USB key or what ever. Peter ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] e: Regarding my OLPC XS Wishlist (Abhishek Singh)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:24:45AM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 8 June 2011 04:44, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:30 PM, TONY ANDERSON tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: Meanwhile I have posted my version of the wish list as a wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/School_Server_Wish_List Ntoe that people go to our wiki in search for documentation. That is your _personal_ wishlist. Please move it to a personal page. I really like where this discussion is going and the fact that we have two other XS related efforts in Nepal and Australia. Should we then make this a community wishlist that encompasses several wishes? Perhaps, but it must be clear that this is an opinions page and is not official. So far I have counted at least six school server types: * OLPC XS * XS-AU (Australia) * NEXS (Nepal) * Paraguay Educa server * Plan Ceibal server (Uruguay) * Sugar Server (Activity Central) One but critical change, it is: * Sugar Server project (Sugar Labs) * Dextrose Server, Sugar Server based, product (Activity Central) (I'm composing an announce for Sugar Server launch) I am keen to have some consolidation, to avoid parallel development and splintering of the community. I am open to discussion on how we can achieve this. Sridhar Sridhar Dhanapalan Technical Manager One Laptop per Child Australia M: +61 425 239 701 E: srid...@laptop.org.au A: G.P.O. Box 731 Sydney, NSW 2001 W: www.laptop.org.au ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au -- Aleksey ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC-AU] e: Regarding my OLPC XS Wishlist (Abhishek Singh)
On 10 June 2011 00:49, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:24:45AM +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: So far I have counted at least six school server types: * OLPC XS * XS-AU (Australia) * NEXS (Nepal) * Paraguay Educa server * Plan Ceibal server (Uruguay) * Sugar Server (Activity Central) One but critical change, it is: * Sugar Server project (Sugar Labs) * Dextrose Server, Sugar Server based, product (Activity Central) (I'm composing an announce for Sugar Server launch) Okay, now I'm really confused :S That makes seven school server types. I'm not convinced why there should be more than one or two. I'm happy to co-operate with others to make this happen, provided that our deployment needs are met. Looking forward to the announcement. Cheers, Sridhar ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Support for Firefox 3.5 is ending
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Firefox 3.5 is being EOLed by Mozilla[0] and Google is dropping support for it[1]. In 10.1.3 this is default Web browser in GNOME and the backend of the Browse activity, so we should be thinking of what that means for us. The plan for Australia is to have a Fedora 14 build (based on DX12) ready by January. F14 comes with Firefox 3.6, which is the oldest version supported by Mozilla and Google. What would be even better is to have Firefox 4 available. By January, Firefox 3.6 will be quite old and close to EOL. Firefox 4 is a fair bit faster than 3.6, allowing us to squeeze extra performance out of our XOs. There is a yum repository for F14[2]. My understanding (I can't find where I read it) is that Firefox 3.6 will stick around for a while to support older OS releases. Do you have information that's different? I use this on my F14 work machine (albeit in x86_64), and I've had no problem. Browse continues to work in Sugar. Yes. But in this case Browse is still using the old version of XULRunner, Browse doesn't work with Xulrunner 2. Are there any thoughts/plans about including Firefox 4 in the OLPC/DX OS? There are a lot of other impacts that would need to be addressed and its no a small amount of work. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] Support for Firefox 3.5 is ending
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: (hey, is the clock of your computer set correctly? your message appears to be one day old!) On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 20:37 -0400, David Farning wrote: There was some discussion at EduJam. Browse is currently unmaintained, but Simon Schampijer and Gonzalo Odiard expressed interest in working on it. There was the question of missing support for the Python bindings of GtkMozEmbed, but the problem appears to be solved now. What is the solution? Ubuntu Natty ships a new version of python-gtkmozembed, which is based on xulrunner 2.0. Fedora 15 also has xulrunner 2.0, with Python bindings. Fedora 14 is still shipping xulrunner 1.9.2, which is roughly equivalent to the version used by Firefox 3.6. Backporting things from Fedora 15 is going to be a royal pain in the ass, since they have switched everything to Gnome 3. Its not roughly equivalent it is the version being used by FF 3.6. In terms of Firefox 4 in Fedora 14 your correct that it will be a pain, but not really due to gnome 3. FF4 still uses gtk2. The problem is all the gnome deps that use xulrunner that would need porting as well. I personally believe that it would be less work to move Fedora 15! Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] Support for Firefox 3.5 is ending
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 17:42 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 5 June 2011 17:02, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Fedora 14 is still shipping xulrunner 1.9.2, which is roughly equivalent to the version used by Firefox 3.6. Backporting things from Fedora 15 is going to be a royal pain in the ass, since they have switched everything to Gnome 3. Does that mean that with FF4 installed, Browse is still working because it is (equivalently) using FF3.6 as the backend? Would that mean that if we were to upgrade to FF4, we would have a disparity in rendering between GNOME and Sugar? Yes. Since version 3.5 (iirc), Firefox comes with its own forked version of xulrunner. The system-wide copy of xulrunner is distinct from the one bundled with the Firefox package. Same for nspr (the Netscape portable runtime) and nss (the netscape SSL implementation). And if you happen to use Thunderbird, you've even got a third copy of all these libraries in your system. No, xulrunner wasn't forked and the firefox package in Fedora uses the system xulrunner. In the case of the repo with FF4 there's a xulrunner2 package and all the libraries and names of the package when built have been changed. To use it you have to change the way the xulrunner app links to which version/name of the underlying xulrunner. Following the best traditions of Windows applications, Firefox and Thunderbird will store passwords, proxy settings and file associations in two different locations. No idea about windows nor thunderbird but firefox 3.x and 4 will both use the same profile (I was switching between the two for a while when FF4 had issues even restoring the sessions) and use system proxies. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] Support for Firefox 3.5 is ending
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 15:50 +1000, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: (sorry - sending again because I had the wrong address for the olpc devel list) Firefox 3.5 is being EOLed by Mozilla[0] and Google is dropping support for it[1]. In 10.1.3 this is default Web browser in GNOME and the backend of the Browse activity, so we should be thinking of what that means for us. The plan for Australia is to have a Fedora 14 build (based on DX12) ready by January. F14 comes with Firefox 3.6, which is the oldest version supported by Mozilla and Google. What would be even better is to have Firefox 4 available. By January, Firefox 3.6 will be quite old and close to EOL. Firefox 4 is a fair bit faster than 3.6, allowing us to squeeze extra performance out of our XOs. There is a yum repository for F14[2]. I use this on my F14 work machine (albeit in x86_64), and I've had no problem. Browse continues to work in Sugar. Are there any thoughts/plans about including Firefox 4 in the OLPC/DX OS? There was some discussion at EduJam. Browse is currently unmaintained, but Simon Schampijer and Gonzalo Odiard expressed interest in working on it. There was the question of missing support for the Python bindings of GtkMozEmbed, but the problem appears to be solved now. From looking at the Browse problem for Fedora 15 / SoaS 5 it seems that hulahop needs to be ported to the latest xulrunner 2/xulrunner-python and we should be mostly good to go. I have no idea how much work this would be though. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] [Dextrose] Support for Firefox 3.5 is ending
Does that mean that with FF4 installed, Browse is still working because it is (equivalently) using FF3.6 as the backend? Would that mean that if we were to upgrade to FF4, we would have a disparity in rendering between GNOME and Sugar? A note from a sometimes_bleeding_edge user: Ever since FF4 beta was available, I've been running it on all my XOs. It has its own subset of xulrunner functions - so does not conflict with whatever xulrunner package version has been installed in the XO. Browse has not been affected by my upleveling of FF. mikus p.s. Activities such as Karma appear to have packaged-in an entire copy of the then-current xulrunner function. pps. With FF 5 beta now available - that's what I am currently running in all my F11/F14 XOs. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] copy-nand vs update-nand
On 21 March 2011 10:12, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: But if you have placed an .img and .crc file on a USB drive, and then typed: ok update-nand u:\osX.img ... then don't do that. Nobody told you to do that. ;-) If something did, please let us correct it. I was testing with 10.1.3. My experiences seem to match what you are saying, so no worries. Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] copy-nand vs update-nand
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 04:24:03PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 17 March 2011 18:21, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: copy-nand is for unpartitioned jffs2 images. update-nand is for partitioned jffs2 images, or partitioned combined jffs2 and ubifs images. Follow the installation instructions closely for the release you're working with. Mixing the image types and commands can result in unpredictable behaviour, if I recall correctly. The release notes for 10.1.3 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3#Installation do not mention how to do a manual (non-secure) installation. That's because 10.1.3 is signed using OLPC keys. The automatic installation using the four game keys is what works, which is why it is documented that way. You will waste time doing it the manual way. On your installed base laptops, once they have your deployment keys, installation of your signed builds will also work with the four game key method. On an XO-1.5, fs-update works well. On an XO-1, I have found that copy-nand works but update-nand doesn't write anything (and after a few minutes, reboots the XO). Assuming you are mixing image types, yes, that matches my expectations. I'm not sure you'll always get a reboot though. Don't rely on it. It isn't clear from your mail on this thread what you are trying to do, or what didn't work for you. 11.2.0 is different for XO-1, in that unlike 10.1.3 it uses partitioned images. If you have placed an 11.2.0 .onu and .uim file on USB drive, and then typed: ok update-nand u:\os14.onu ... and it doesn't work, then please report this in detail, at dev.laptop.org. But if you have placed an .img and .crc file on a USB drive, and then typed: ok update-nand u:\osX.img ... then don't do that. Nobody told you to do that. ;-) If something did, please let us correct it. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] copy-nand vs update-nand
On 17 March 2011 18:21, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: copy-nand is for unpartitioned jffs2 images. update-nand is for partitioned jffs2 images, or partitioned combined jffs2 and ubifs images. Follow the installation instructions closely for the release you're working with. Mixing the image types and commands can result in unpredictable behaviour, if I recall correctly. The release notes for 10.1.3 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3#Installation do not mention how to do a manual (non-secure) installation. On an XO-1.5, fs-update works well. On an XO-1, I have found that copy-nand works but update-nand doesn't write anything (and after a few minutes, reboots the XO). Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [OLPC-AU] Calculating total power draw of XO
see http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/power/ Tony On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 03:50:30PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: What I can tell you is that our individual power adapters have the following characteristics: * input 100-240V AC 50/60Hz * output 12V DC 2500mA These are maxima and minima specifications, and only give you a limit for how much power can be drawn. Why don't you pop down to Coles or Woolies and get an energy meter; $25 or so unit that plugs into the wall, you plug the appliance into it, and it tells you how many watt hours are consumed. Saw one in Coles the other day. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] copy-nand vs update-nand
copy-nand is for unpartitioned jffs2 images. update-nand is for partitioned jffs2 images, or partitioned combined jffs2 and ubifs images. Follow the installation instructions closely for the release you're working with. Mixing the image types and commands can result in unpredictable behaviour, if I recall correctly. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1 developer key does not work
On 12 March 2011 18:36, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: why am I getting different readings for each method? My guess is that file /home/.devkey.html was copied in from some other system, and shows the serial number and UUID of the copied-from system. All I can say is that this XO has been lying around for a couple of years. I'm not really sure what happened, but at least I know to trust the collection key method over the others. I have another 20+ XO-1s to unlock as well, so that's the best way for me. Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1 developer key does not work
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 02:36 -0500, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: why am I getting different readings for each method? My guess is that file /home/.devkey.html was copied in from some other system, and shows the serial number and UUID of the copied-from system. It would be interesting to investigate how /home/.devkey.html got onto the machine -- ie, what build you used, and how you installed it onto the device -- in order to prevent this problem from recurring. Sounds like one of the side-effects of cloning the machine that had requested a key. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1 developer key does not work
why am I getting different readings for each method? My guess is that file /home/.devkey.html was copied in from some other system, and shows the serial number and UUID of the copied-from system. And there is a mis-match between the bottom cover and the motherboard. Since the boot process does NOT look at the label in the battery compartment, the number there does not affect what happens at boot. I myself would trust the collection key values. mikus p.s. When you get file develop.sig (1260 bytes), take a look at the serial number therein (1st record, 2nd token). It should match the serial number printed out by OFW when you boot with the check-button pressed -- if they don't match, that develop.sig will not be recognized. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1 developer key does not work
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: why am I getting different readings for each method? My guess is that file /home/.devkey.html was copied in from some other system, and shows the serial number and UUID of the copied-from system. It would be interesting to investigate how /home/.devkey.html got onto the machine -- ie, what build you used, and how you installed it onto the device -- in order to prevent this problem from recurring. I myself would trust the collection key values. yup. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 15:22 +1100, James Cameron wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 03:06:10PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: We find this to be a bit hit-and-miss - sometimes the prompt shows and sometimes it doesn't. I normally turn on the XO while either holding down the Esc key or tapping it repeatedly. Is there something more reliable? I am trying to get a remote (non-technical) teacher to do this, so it needs to be easy. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok for my standard answer. I forgot to mention another thing - this is for XO-1.1s (XO-1s with an XO-1.5 style trackpad). We don't use the term XO-1.1, sorry. Please don't introduce it. The expert method (holding down the escape key while turning on the laptop) works fine for me when I test with this type of laptop, on Q2E45. The expert method won't work in some cases though because it conflicts with the data stream between the firmware and the keyboard during the critical discovery phase. I like to hold down the check key when booting, then when prompted to release, hit the escape key. I just do that out of habit now, like to watch the scrolling text of the boot sequence. With Q2E45, a USB keyboard can also be used to obtain the Ok prompt, but it takes an extra moment after the startup sound begins. You might also attempt to boot from USB. If it does not boot an unsigned image, then it is probably secure. You might also check the manufacturing tags using the Terminal activity, but you did ask for simplest, and you didn't say anything initially about your hit-and-miss experience. From a terminal 'ls /ofw/mfg-data' look for 'ww' for unlocked boxes, if missing or 'wp' is present, then it's locked. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
I'm still awaiting feedback from the school (getting information out of remote schools is often hard). I'm trying to ascertain whether their CL1As are developer locked. According to the production info on your SKU (SKU 67) all your CL1As where shipped unlocked. -- Richard A. Smith One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:13:04PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I was out there a year ago to assist in the initial deployment, but at the time I was quite green and so didn't know what to look for. I do remember that we used NANDblaster clone an installation from one of our own CL1 XO-1s to the school's CL1As (turning each on while holding the four game keys). Would that be an indication that they are not locked? Yes. The only NANDblaster function that will work to a secure laptop is nb-secure [1]. nb-clone (which is what you did) requires an non-secure target laptop set. Otherwise the security system would be bypassed. On using the four game keys ... quote This works for both secure and non-secure systems. If the system is secure, the sender must be sending a signed image; otherwise the receiver will stop before writing to it NAND, saying Placement spec bad signature!./quote [2] 1. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1#NANDblasting_a_Signed_NAND_Image_File 2. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1#..._with_Game_Buttons -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
On 11 March 2011 06:02, Richard Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: I'm still awaiting feedback from the school (getting information out of remote schools is often hard). I'm trying to ascertain whether their CL1As are developer locked. According to the production info on your SKU (SKU 67) all your CL1As where shipped unlocked. Thanks everyone. I've just confirmed with the school that they have SKU 67, and that they are not developer locked. *sigh of relief* Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 03:06:10PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: We find this to be a bit hit-and-miss - sometimes the prompt shows and sometimes it doesn't. I normally turn on the XO while either holding down the Esc key or tapping it repeatedly. Is there something more reliable? I am trying to get a remote (non-technical) teacher to do this, so it needs to be easy. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok for my standard answer. I forgot to mention another thing - this is for XO-1.1s (XO-1s with an XO-1.5 style trackpad). We don't use the term XO-1.1, sorry. Please don't introduce it. The expert method (holding down the escape key while turning on the laptop) works fine for me when I test with this type of laptop, on Q2E45. The expert method won't work in some cases though because it conflicts with the data stream between the firmware and the keyboard during the critical discovery phase. With Q2E45, a USB keyboard can also be used to obtain the Ok prompt, but it takes an extra moment after the startup sound begins. You might also attempt to boot from USB. If it does not boot an unsigned image, then it is probably secure. You might also check the manufacturing tags using the Terminal activity, but you did ask for simplest, and you didn't say anything initially about your hit-and-miss experience. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Determining developer lock status
On 10 March 2011 15:22, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 03:06:10PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: I forgot to mention another thing - this is for XO-1.1s (XO-1s with an XO-1.5 style trackpad). We don't use the term XO-1.1, sorry. Please don't introduce it. Noted. I'm still awaiting feedback from the school (getting information out of remote schools is often hard). I'm trying to ascertain whether their CL1As are developer locked. We want to install our own build, along with deployment keys and firmware, via USB through an olpc.fth script. I was out there a year ago to assist in the initial deployment, but at the time I was quite green and so didn't know what to look for. I do remember that we used NANDblaster clone an installation from one of our own CL1 XO-1s to the school's CL1As (turning each on while holding the four game keys). Would that be an indication that they are not locked? Thanks, Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [OLPC-AU] SDIO on external SD slot
James I have a Dodo USB using the Optus network in Australia. I am located in the fringe of Melbourne. If I can help with testing just ask. Tony On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 09:54:07AM -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks Wad, Peter and Martin. We are currently trialling the use of 3G Wifi access points, with government-approved content filtering supplied by the telco. Just to be thorough, I am also investigating what our other options may be. Interesting. For anything larger than ~ 20 users, I definitely recommend an XS. The XS can then be your bridge between 3G and Wifi The data rate and latency of the Australian Telstra Next G 3G service are quite reasonable ... for the regional areas it is a dual-cell HSPA with 14.4 Mbit/s deployed nationwide. Timing radius out to about 120km from a high enough tower operating on 850 MHz band. Modems typically obtain 3 Mbit/s or 7.2 Mbit/s of the available 14.4 Mbit/s. The uplink and peering are excellent, with latencies of the order of 50ms to 100ms even in the outback. Therefore I'd put the threshold for proxy advantage closer to ~ 40 users. The capital city towers are configured differently, something around 42 Mbit/sec. I've heard there is more contention and packet loss in these areas, but haven't measured them personally. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: RE: [OLPC-AU] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
Hello all. I have just gotten around to working with this. I had success starting in Gnome, then connecting to the hidden network. And this kept when I switched back to Sugar. But, when I restarted, the hidden network was still hidden, and I had to do this again. Is there anyway to make this change permanent? I have tried the instructions on the wiki http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#SSID_Network_Name But these instructions do not seem to work. What can I do? Again, we are running the laptops on version 10.1.3. Many thanks. Gerald On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.auwrote: Yes, this is correct. More recent OS builds have Browse and Firefox pick up their settings from the GNOME settings instead of needing to go to about:config. To do this, go to System - Preferences - Network Proxy. Sridhar On 1 February 2011 10:28, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Gerald, I am pretty sure this got to you from Trent but here again just in case and a copy for the list Hi Gerald I had the same issue with the hidden wireless networks here at Education Queensland. I have listed out what needed to be done below. To connect to the hidden wireless network itself I had to switch to the gnome desktop. From there you will be able to connect to a hidden wireless network. You will have to manually input the SSID of your network and the correct credentials. After you have made the connection you will need to do the following to ensure the browser will function with a proxy. Put about:config in the address bar in browse Scrolled to network.proxy.http and input your proxy Went to network:proxy.http_port and input 80 (this may be different on your network. You will need to check) Went to network.proxy.type and input 1 Hope this helps Trent Woods | Project Officer | ICT Delivery Team | Learning Technologies Unit | Information Technologies Branch | Department of Education and Training | Queensland Government | 347 Old Cleveland Road | Coorparoo Qld 4151 T 3421 6680 | E trent.wo...@deta.qld.gov.au | W http://education.qld.gov.au/smartclassrooms/mis/ This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author. If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer. Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and Training. Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and Training disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination. -Original Message- From: olpc-au-boun...@lists.laptop.org [mailto:olpc-au-boun...@lists.laptop.org] On Behalf Of fors...@ozonline.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 9:12 AM To: Dr. Gerald Ardito Cc: olpc...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [OLPC-AU] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings I thought that something like this had come up on olpc...@lists.laptop.org if anyone can help Gerald, please do Tony I am trying to connect XOs in a school which as a wireless network with a hidden SSID. Additionally, the school requires proxy settings to establish internet connections. Can someone help me with this? Thanks. Gerald ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Upgrading firmware with nb-secure
On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 01:35 +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: If I use nb-secure to push out a signed build that includes new firmware, would the new firmware be written to the XO the next time it boots with external power connected? Thanks, Sridhar Only if it has a greater reversion number, if 3A62 is installed unsigned, and there is a signed version of 3A62 in the image, it will not be installed. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] WLAN failure in 20x XO-1.5s [WAS: Re: NANDblaster failing]
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 07:16:18PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Is there a chance that it's related to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO1.5_WLAN_ESD_protection or is that out of the question? I don't know. I expect Martin will know. The serial number range you reported is ISO week 19 of 2010. I don't have the affected serial number range for the XO-1.5 WLAN ESD problem. I do have part of the range identified, but not the full range. That's why you should wait for Martin to respond. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] WLAN failure in 20x XO-1.5s [WAS: Re: NANDblaster failing]
On Feb 15, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Is there a chance that it's related to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO1.5_WLAN_ESD_protection Given the production dates of those laptops, that is almost certainly the problem. Swapping out the WLAN card will fix it. Regards, wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] WLAN failure in 20x XO-1.5s [WAS: Re: NANDblaster failing]
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:37:21PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Possibly related to this, we have at least 20x XO-1.5s that have completely dead WLAN. The OpenFirmware wireless test fails immediately. In what way does the test fail? What version of OpenFirmware was used to test with? The serial numbers are: Make sure you talk to Martin about this. devel@lists.laptop.org tends to be focused on development discussions rather than deployment support. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] WLAN failure in 20x XO-1.5s [WAS: Re: NANDblaster failing]
On 15 February 2011 15:25, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:37:21PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: Possibly related to this, we have at least 20x XO-1.5s that have completely dead WLAN. The OpenFirmware wireless test fails immediately. In what way does the test fail? What version of OpenFirmware was used to test with? Trying with two that I have here, I get the same error: SHDCI: Error: ISR = 8000 ESR = 1 Command Timeout Stopping Selftest failed due to abort The firmware was: Q3A50 A3A36 After upgrading the Q3A50 one to Q3A62, I get slightly different output from the WLAN test: SDHCI: Error: ISR = 8000 ESR = 1 Command Timeout, Command reg: 50a Mode reg: 0 Arg reg: 0 Recent commands (decimal): 0 5 Stopping Selftest failed due to abort The serial numbers are: Make sure you talk to Martin about this. devel@lists.laptop.org tends to be focused on development discussions rather than deployment support. Sure, will do. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] WLAN failure in 20x XO-1.5s [WAS: Re: NANDblaster failing]
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 03:48:24PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: After upgrading the Q3A50 one to Q3A62, I get slightly different output from the WLAN test: SDHCI: Error: ISR = 8000 ESR = 1 Command Timeout, Command reg: 50a Mode reg: 0 Arg reg: 0 Recent commands (decimal): 0 5 Stopping Selftest failed due to abort Thanks. The wireless card did not respond to commands. Normally a card will respond to commands. Speculation as to cause: (a) open circuit, (b) short circuit, (c) damaged card, (d) damaged host. It would require further analysis by Martin. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] magic update usbkey
On 10 February 2011 12:37, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi All: Ever want to have an action occur when you plug your usbkey in on an XO? With a bit of udev magic that is possible. First you need to have a udev .rules file in place to trap the occurrence, I created /etc/udev/rules.d/99-setup.rules that contained, on one line: ACTION==add, KERNEL==sd*, SUBSYSTEM==block, RUN+=/usr/bin/netcfg.sh This will run the second part, /usr/bin/netcfg.sh file when any usbkey is inserted. In my case I'm searching the usbkey for certain files to be sourced. Just wondering if there would be any interest in extending this for something like installing activities and/or rpms, like olpc-configure can do but on demand. A practical example of how this can be used: http://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/346 Sridhar ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] magic update usbkey
You might also construct a bootable USB drive that makes these changes without requiring pre-existing support on the installed operating system image. This lets you redefine the tool without worrying about what is installed. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Power_Log_Collection_Flash_Drive for an example contributed recently by the New Zealand test team. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
