Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
I am expecting to take a brief holiday out in the sea. Many bays with
anchorage also have bars and restaurants with open wifi. I prefer to enjoy
breakfast on board... and get my interweb fix from afar.

Is there any directional wlan antenna kit or setup that is practical with
an XO?

Maybe something that has the same antenna plugs as the XO antenna? I can
cut the green bumper.

Or a usb-wlan device that is both supported by our standard builds and easy
to hook up to a directional antenna?

Or something else entirely?

I will need to mount it on something that swivels easily, as the boat
changes position with wind and currents when anchored.

cheers,

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Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Chris Leonard
No idea how you would hook it up. but there is the famous Pringles can recipe

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/

You might find something of interest on war-driving sites like:

http://www.wardriving.com/antenna.php

cjl



On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am expecting to take a brief holiday out in the sea. Many bays with
 anchorage also have bars and restaurants with open wifi. I prefer to enjoy
 breakfast on board... and get my interweb fix from afar.

 Is there any directional wlan antenna kit or setup that is practical with an
 XO?

 Maybe something that has the same antenna plugs as the XO antenna? I can cut
 the green bumper.

 Or a usb-wlan device that is both supported by our standard builds and easy
 to hook up to a directional antenna?

 Or something else entirely?

 I will need to mount it on something that swivels easily, as the boat
 changes position with wind and currents when anchored.

 cheers,

 m


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Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote:
 No idea how you would hook it up. but there is the famous Pringles can recipe
 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-antenna-out-of-a-pringles-can-nb/

Yep, that's why I'm asking, that old trick.

I'm hoping someone packaged it neatly so that I can easily carry it on
a few planes, then use it on a sailboat, while devoting most of my
attention to a 2.5 year-old sailor-in-training.

Browsing through that wardriving link of yours isn't really steering
me in the right direction. I don't have the urge to prove I'm the king
of DIY, and it doesn't have to be the absolute best directional
antenna. It's just fine to have one thing in my life be relatively
easy. :-)

cheers,



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Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread James Cameron
You can achieve a significant gain by making the antenna higher,
especially if you need to get past anything in the fresnel zone, such
as the masts of other boats or restaurant windows.  By moving the
antenna higher, you will also reduce the fresnel effect of the nearby
water between you and the access point.

A 5M USB cable with a WiFi device at the far end may work much better
than a directional antenna.  The USB active antenna prototypes are
okay for this.

You might also consider two XOs connected by ethernet cable.  One on a
mast, one down below.

You can get pigtails to convert from the connectors in the XO to a
connector for an antenna.  Watch for static discharge.  I suggest a
yagi style, not to high a gain, otherwise it would be too sensitive to
changes in heading of the boat when anchored.

(I'm an ex-sailor ... there's no large bodies of water out here).

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Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 You can achieve a significant gain by making the antenna higher,
 especially if you need to get past anything in the fresnel zone, such
 as the masts of other boats or restaurant windows.

OK. I'll try to get an ext usb wlan with a long cable, and I'll hoist
it as high as possible, as far from masts and stays as possible.
Gonzalo was suggesting sticking the wlan device in a wokfi, but I
won't be able to aim it.

 You might also consider two XOs connected by ethernet cable.  One on a
 mast, one down below.

Heh. XO on the bosun's chair.

 (I'm an ex-sailor ... there's no large bodies of water out here).

Come join us! Large catamaran, BVI. What could possibly go wrong? ;-)

cheers,



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Re: Offtopic: directional antenna for XO-1.75?

2012-05-23 Thread scott
Personally, I would vote for a Ubiquiti Nanostation or similar 
PoE based client over USB based ones.


On Wed, 23 May 2012, Martin Langhoff wrote:


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:10 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

You can achieve a significant gain by making the antenna higher,
especially if you need to get past anything in the fresnel zone, such
as the masts of other boats or restaurant windows.


OK. I'll try to get an ext usb wlan with a long cable, and I'll hoist
it as high as possible, as far from masts and stays as possible.
Gonzalo was suggesting sticking the wlan device in a wokfi, but I
won't be able to aim it.


You might also consider two XOs connected by ethernet cable.  One on a
mast, one down below.


Heh. XO on the bosun's chair.


(I'm an ex-sailor ... there's no large bodies of water out here).


Come join us! Large catamaran, BVI. What could possibly go wrong? ;-)

cheers,



m
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