Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Le samedi 23 février 2008 à 08:13 -0500, Walter Bender a écrit : Read sharing is a critical feature. Please do test it. Would be good to consider to include my fix for #6540 then. It's waiting review and merge from a Read developer. G. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
On Sunday 24 February 2008, Giannis Galanis wrote: Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. So we need a new read package and a new telepathy-salut. Giannis can you please make sure we have a trac bug filled requesting these. Who do i need to talk to to get the Read build done? Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
I'll have an updated Read package ready in a few hours. Cheers, Reinier Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008, Giannis Galanis wrote: Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. So we need a new read package and a new telepathy-salut. Giannis can you please make sure we have a trac bug filled requesting these. Who do i need to talk to to get the Read build done? Dennis ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
On Feb 25, 2008, at 17:42 , Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008, Giannis Galanis wrote: Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. So we need a new read package and a new telepathy-salut. Giannis can you please make sure we have a trac bug filled requesting these. Who do i need to talk to to get the Read build done? If Etoys sharing is to be tested, then you need to update the etoys rpm (was approved for update.1, trac #6548). - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Hi, On second thought I think a new Read build is not required for this. However, there is a newer version available in joyride that's not in update-1, I'm making a ticket for that. Guillaume: your patches are on master and will be included soon. Cheers, Reinier Reinier Heeres wrote: I'll have an updated Read package ready in a few hours. Cheers, Reinier Dennis Gilmore wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008, Giannis Galanis wrote: Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. So we need a new read package and a new telepathy-salut. Giannis can you please make sure we have a trac bug filled requesting these. Who do i need to talk to to get the Read build done? Dennis ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. Also, how about using B4s? Is there any effect in the performance except suspend/resume? I remember Ricardo saying there were hardware changes related to 4470. Ricardo, can you confirm this? If we decide on the build by tonight, I can have all the XOs updated and ready by tomorrow. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed that Read sharing is the highest priority application. My concern is if there are a lot of other things in joyride, then it will take us a long time to get a release out based on joyride. If we pull the fix for Read back into update.1, (and other things that we find next week), then we won't waste time on testing or finding bugs in joyride. Does anyone have a good feel for the differences between today's Update.1and joyride 1721 -- or can someone list the diffs so we can make a decision? Kim On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read sharing is a critical feature. Please do test it. -walter On 2/23/08, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. As I said in reply to Chris's mail, the salut fix is for Read in #6483. If you are going to test sharing PDFs in Read, please use Joyride-1721 otherwise there is a high chance it won't work at all under any conditions. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Thanks Yani. I think we need to start with Update.1 and add the required fix(es) to that until we can get the next build together. Who can help with that? Ricardo, if you think there is anything else different with B4s in regards to network performance, please tell us. I'm not aware of anything in hardware. Dennis, Can you be prepared to quickly pull some builds together early next week? Thanks, Kim On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Giannis Galanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim, You can see the diffs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html http://dev.laptop.org/%7Erwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html You will see that there are plenty of new stuff in joyride than just a telepathy-salut update. One thing we can do is use 693 and install the specific package, or make a new Update.1 build that includes it. But we should test it individually before putting it in the update.1 build. One thing we can do is have half the XOs with 1721 in one channel, and the other half with 693 in another channel. Also, how about using B4s? Is there any effect in the performance except suspend/resume? I remember Ricardo saying there were hardware changes related to 4470. Ricardo, can you confirm this? If we decide on the build by tonight, I can have all the XOs updated and ready by tomorrow. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed that Read sharing is the highest priority application. My concern is if there are a lot of other things in joyride, then it will take us a long time to get a release out based on joyride. If we pull the fix for Read back into update.1, (and other things that we find next week), then we won't waste time on testing or finding bugs in joyride. Does anyone have a good feel for the differences between today's Update.1 and joyride 1721 -- or can someone list the diffs so we can make a decision? Kim On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read sharing is a critical feature. Please do test it. -walter On 2/23/08, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. As I said in reply to Chris's mail, the salut fix is for Read in #6483. If you are going to test sharing PDFs in Read, please use Joyride-1721 otherwise there is a high chance it won't work at all under any conditions. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Ricardo, if you think there is anything else different with B4s in regards to network performance, please tell us. I'm not aware of anything in hardware. They don't suspend. So if MP's have networking trouble that happens when a laptop suspends, the trouble won't happen on a B4. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
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Right. But the suspend and resume problems we've seen with the mesh and sharing can be recreated on a relatively small number of laptops (10). So we will either fix the problems, or turn off suspend in order to test for scaling issues above 50. We have 50 MPs for next weeks testing. So we should be ok. Kim On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo, if you think there is anything else different with B4s in regards to network performance, please tell us. I'm not aware of anything in hardware. They don't suspend. So if MP's have networking trouble that happens when a laptop suspends, the trouble won't happen on a B4. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Kim, The suspend/resume problems will show even with 2 XOs. This cannot be fixed at the moment. As Michalis mentioned in another email, testing S/R and mesh scalability will just break the test. We have to test them invidually. On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. But the suspend and resume problems we've seen with the mesh and sharing can be recreated on a relatively small number of laptops (10). So we will either fix the problems, or turn off suspend in order to test for scaling issues above 50. We have 50 MPs for next weeks testing. So we should be ok. Kim On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo, if you think there is anything else different with B4s in regards to network performance, please tell us. I'm not aware of anything in hardware. They don't suspend. So if MP's have networking trouble that happens when a laptop suspends, the trouble won't happen on a B4. John ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. As I said in reply to Chris's mail, the salut fix is for Read in #6483. If you are going to test sharing PDFs in Read, please use Joyride-1721 otherwise there is a high chance it won't work at all under any conditions. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
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Read sharing is a critical feature. Please do test it. -walter On 2/23/08, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. As I said in reply to Chris's mail, the salut fix is for Read in #6483. If you are going to test sharing PDFs in Read, please use Joyride-1721 otherwise there is a high chance it won't work at all under any conditions. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Preparing the XOs for next week's test
Agreed that Read sharing is the highest priority application. My concern is if there are a lot of other things in joyride, then it will take us a long time to get a release out based on joyride. If we pull the fix for Read back into update.1, (and other things that we find next week), then we won't waste time on testing or finding bugs in joyride. Does anyone have a good feel for the differences between today's Update.1and joyride 1721 -- or can someone list the diffs so we can make a decision? Kim On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read sharing is a critical feature. Please do test it. -walter On 2/23/08, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giannis Galanis wrote: 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. As I said in reply to Chris's mail, the salut fix is for Read in #6483. If you are going to test sharing PDFs in Read, please use Joyride-1721 otherwise there is a high chance it won't work at all under any conditions. Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Walter Bender One Laptop per Child http://laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Preparing the XOs for next week's test
A couple of stuff for the next week's test. 1. We have about 45 XOs in the conference room, and we can make it up to 80 by collecting other XOs in the office. Do you think this is enough? 2. I will try to update all of them with the build we will agree to initially test with. This would be 693/D13? There is a new version of telepathy-salut in 1721, which apparently only fixes smth related to stream tube flush(which i dont know what it is). I dont believe it important to our test. Other than that Update.1 i think should be ok. 3. I can also disable suspend/resume in all of them in case we decide we dont wanna have it enabled. It will save alot of time by doing it on monday. If there is anything you think might be useful to prepare in advance, let me know! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
