Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-16 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
 I have observed this problem a couple of times, although only after
 reflashing the OS. The machine would hang after displaying the frame of
 the boot animation with just one dot.

So far, if I've been running a machine, and it has hung -- and if it
doesn't want to reboot -- I will do the EC reset thing (unplug the AC,
take out the battery for a couple of minutes).

If an EC reset might be required also after reflashing the OS, then the
person doing the reflashing ought to be warned somehow (Release notes?
Wiki?).  My reason for mentioning the hang I saw was that I had not been
expecting a reflash to require an EC reset to make the os boot work.

 Please, take note of how you triggered it and
 how exactly you managed to solve it.

I triggered it by doing a 'copy-nand u:\os140py.img', then powering off,
pulling the USB stick, and powering on (while pressing the 'check' game
button).  [I already was using q2e42e from before doing the reflash.]

I never solved it - I repeated the power-up (I think twice) - and
finally the boot worked.  [Never did any explicit EC reset.]

mikus

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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Fox
yioryos wrote:
  
  --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:
  
   
   If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message No signature
   for our key list
  
  My XO-1 has security disabled and boots fine.  With the
  exception of the first boot that something on olpc.fth blocks
  it (with no OFW messages) and never goes to console.

what changed between the first and second boots that might have
made the second successful after the first failed?

paul

  
  Regarding the freeze at the camera-check boot point, I had it with os129py 
  (not 
  with os140py yet) but I considered it a consequence of my broken camera. 
  Maybe 
  not then.   
  
  

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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:

 From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC List 
 fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:12 AM
 yioryos wrote:
   
   --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com
 wrote:
   

If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message
 No signature
for our key list
   
   My XO-1 has security disabled and boots fine. 
 With the
   exception of the first boot that something on
 olpc.fth blocks
   it (with no OFW messages) and never goes to console.
 
 what changed between the first and second boots that might
 have
 made the second successful after the first failed?

See http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/028172.html above
:-)

To repeat, I loaded the olpc.fth from my SDcard instead the internal NAND.
It looked like that:

\ Boot script
 root=/dev/mtdblock0 rootfstype=jffs2 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 
fbcon=font:SUN12x22 selinux=0 to boot-file 
 nand:\boot\vmlinuz to boot-device 
 nand:\boot\initrd.img to ramdisk 
setup-smbios 
unfreeze 
dcon-unfreeze 
visible  
boot

Set up os140py. Removed the SDcard and rebooted. 

 
 paul
 
   
   Regarding the freeze at the camera-check boot point,
 I had it with os129py (not 
   with os140py yet) but I considered it a consequence
 of my broken camera. Maybe 
   not then.   
   
   
 
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Fox
yioryos wrote:
  
  
  --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
  
   From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
   Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
   To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
   Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC List 
  fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
   Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:12 AM
   yioryos wrote:
 
 --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com
   wrote:
 
  
  If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message
   No signature
  for our key list
 
 My XO-1 has security disabled and boots fine. 
   With the
 exception of the first boot that something on
   olpc.fth blocks
 it (with no OFW messages) and never goes to console.
   
   what changed between the first and second boots that might
   have
   made the second successful after the first failed?
  
  See http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/028172.html above
  :-)
  
  To repeat, I loaded the olpc.fth from my SDcard instead the internal NAND.
  It looked like that:
  
  \ Boot script
   root=/dev/mtdblock0 rootfstype=jffs2 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 
  fbcon=font:SUN12x22 selinux=0 to boot-file 
   nand:\boot\vmlinuz to boot-device 
   nand:\boot\initrd.img to ramdisk 
  setup-smbios 
  unfreeze 
  dcon-unfreeze 
  visible  
  boot
  
  Set up os140py. Removed the SDcard and rebooted. 

so one possibility is that os140py isn't successfully enabling
smbios, or not recognizing the results correctly.

what firmware is installed on our XO-1?

and -- question for bernie -- does os140py include a new firmware?

paul
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On 15 April 2010 09:48, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote:
 what changed between the first and second boots that might
 have
 made the second successful after the first failed?

 See http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/028172.html above

This sounds like http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9100
Your workaround is interesting.

For me, this bug isn't specific to first boot, it's a
from-time-to-time type thing.

Daniel
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On 15 April 2010 10:01, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
 so one possibility is that os140py isn't successfully enabling
 smbios, or not recognizing the results correctly.

(assuming this bug is indeed an instance of #9100...)
SMBIOS should not be required for not-crashing during early boot.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:

 From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC List 
 fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 9:01 AM
 yioryos wrote:
   
   
   --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
 wrote:
   
From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build
 140py released
To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org,
 Fedora OLPC List 
   fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:12 AM
yioryos wrote:
      
      --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mikus Grinbergs
 mi...@bga.com
wrote:
      
       
       If not present, OFW (q2e42e)
 gave the message
No signature
       for our key list
      
      My XO-1 has security disabled and
 boots fine. 
With the
      exception of the first boot that
 something on
olpc.fth blocks
      it (with no OFW messages) and never
 goes to console.

what changed between the first and second boots
 that might
have
made the second successful after the first
 failed?
   
   See http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/028172.html
 above
   :-)
   
   To repeat, I loaded the olpc.fth from my SDcard
 instead the internal NAND.
   It looked like that:
   
   \ Boot script
root=/dev/mtdblock0 rootfstype=jffs2
 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0 
   fbcon=font:SUN12x22 selinux=0 to boot-file 
nand:\boot\vmlinuz to boot-device 
nand:\boot\initrd.img to ramdisk 
   setup-smbios 
   unfreeze 
   dcon-unfreeze 
   visible  
   boot
   
   Set up os140py. Removed the SDcard and rebooted. 
 
 so one possibility is that os140py isn't successfully
 enabling
 smbios, or not recognizing the results correctly.

I'm not sure. It should not work in subsequent boots also then. No?
Looks like that needs something that is provided by the OS/initrd (/ofw?) but 
is generated after the first successful run.

 
 what firmware is installed on our XO-1?

as said (:-) q2e42d

 
 and -- question for bernie -- does os140py include a new
 firmware?

Did not offer to upgrade the FW at any point (initial or later boots) though it 
was plugged for that exact reason.

 
 paul
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org
 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org, OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, 
 Fedora OLPC List fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 9:06 AM
 On 15 April 2010 09:48, Yioryos
 Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  what changed between the first and second boots
 that might
  have
  made the second successful after the first
 failed?
 
  See http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/028172.html
 above
 
 This sounds like http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9100
 Your workaround is interesting.
 
 For me, this bug isn't specific to first boot, it's a
 from-time-to-time type thing.

os140py only has half a dozen reboots so far but the problem did not reappear.
Also it _might_ be different than #9100 since pressing the power button turns 
the XO off almost immediately. When in kernel land I have the feeling it takes 
a bit longer (from my mess-ups with different distros, kernels and initrds :-).


 
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 17:08 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 Was unable to boot XO-1 with build140py installed on jffs2, unless
 develop.sig was present.
 
 If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message No signature for our key
 list

I think Stephen Parrish is preparing to release an F11-XO1 image signed
with OLPC's private key.

If deployments ask for it, I can provide instructions for creating OS
images similar to ours, but signed with their private keys.

-- 
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 17:54 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 I usually bring the system up with messages being displayed (NOT in
 pretty-boot).  Several times now, the system has paused/hung at about
 the time it should be running through /etc/rc.d/rc0.d (or suchlike).
 [Note:  the camera LED is on.]  After SEVERAL MINUTES nothing more has
 happened - so I just reboot.  [I can not bring up a text console, so I
 can't take a dump.]  The hang is random - so the next boot usually works.
 
 As far as I am concerned, if the machines in the field also encounter
 this hang -- it is a blocker to the release of build 140py.

I have observed this problem a couple of times, although only after
reflashing the OS. The machine would hang after displaying the frame of
the boot animation with just one dot.

In my case, a simple reboot would not cure the problem. Pulling the
battery did the job. Therefore, I suspect it may be caused by upgrading
the EC code, which wouldn't be a big concern since we have found an easy
workaround.

Let me know if you see it again on laptops that are already running the
latest open firmware code. Please, take note of how you triggered it and
how exactly you managed to solve it.

-- 
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 \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/

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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-15 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Thu, 4/15/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:

 From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
 Cc: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com, OLPC Devel 
 devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC List fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:33 PM
 On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 09:01 -0400,
 Paul Fox wrote:
  and -- question for bernie -- does os140py include a
 new firmware?
 
 Yes, it includes q2e42d. It works on all our laptops, and
 smbios is
 enabled.
 
 Yioryos, did you have AC plugged in when you flashed your
 laptop?

Yes.


 
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-14 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis


--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:

 From: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 Subject: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org
 Cc: IAEP i...@lists.sugarlabs.org, Fedora OLPC List 
 fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
 This is a custom OS image for the
 XO-1 released by the Paraguay Educa
 technology team:
 
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.crc
  http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/f11-xo1-py/os140py.img.fs.zip
 
 
Downloaded and installed twice but failed to boot. Stopped at loading 
olpcrd.img... every time
However, booting with a simple olpc.fth in an SDcard, booted fine and after 
setting up the os (user/icon/network) subsequent reboots with the NAND olpc.fth 
worked fine. 
This is on an XO-1, CL1, with q2e42d.

A very fast run through the activities revealed 2 issues.
Record activity spits a Cannot find cached 0sugar launch implementation 
error. I guess something was left out in the build.

Ruler activity, is out of scale (~half of the proper). I guess the XO screen 
resolution was not considered appropriately?




  
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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Was unable to boot XO-1 with build140py installed on jffs2, unless
develop.sig was present.

If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message No signature for our key
list

mikus


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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-14 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I usually bring the system up with messages being displayed (NOT in
pretty-boot).  Several times now, the system has paused/hung at about
the time it should be running through /etc/rc.d/rc0.d (or suchlike).
[Note:  the camera LED is on.]  After SEVERAL MINUTES nothing more has
happened - so I just reboot.  [I can not bring up a text console, so I
can't take a dump.]  The hang is random - so the next boot usually works.

As far as I am concerned, if the machines in the field also encounter
this hang -- it is a blocker to the release of build 140py.

mikus



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Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released

2010-04-14 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote:

 From: Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com
 Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
 To: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, Fedora OLPC List 
 fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:08 PM
 Was unable to boot XO-1 with
 build140py installed on jffs2, unless
 develop.sig was present.
 
 If not present, OFW (q2e42e) gave the message No signature
 for our key
 list

My XO-1 has security disabled and boots fine. With the exception of the first 
boot that something on olpc.fth blocks it (with no OFW messages) and never goes 
to console.

Regarding the freeze at the camera-check boot point, I had it with os129py (not 
with os140py yet) but I considered it a consequence of my broken camera. Maybe 
not then.   


 
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