Re: F14-build size
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: There is some discussion about the usability of F14 builds in relation to their size [1] F14 builds are _really big_ for the 1GB XO-1 NAND leaving very little space for the user. If a few videos or wiki is installed or even try olpc-update you may run out of space. I was wondering if unused locales could be removed (a la localepurge) at first boot or after language selection, modifying also accordingly `%_install_langs'. This should save considerable space and make F14 builds more usable for the 1 million XO-1s out there. Of course deployments could make heir own builds and modify them accordingly, but I'm sure that many places may not have this luxury. I understand that we are in a feature freeze, but this could certainly be considered a bug, and a major one. Otherwise I think it certainly merits some consideration for 11.2.1 Its a known issue that is being worked upon, IMO its more likely to hit 11.3.0. Its partially a dependency bloat which needs to be worked upon upstream. Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F14-build size
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:50:03AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: [1] http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4965.msg33320#msg33320 This poster kimtoufectis somehow conflates build size with swap space, but the important points are covered; that there is little disk space for installing new activities or downloading files. These points can't be fixed by adding swap space, and so the remainder of the argument relating to swap space as a complex solution can be dismissed. One argument isn't described there, and that is that olpc-update fails. This is covered in the 10.1.3 release notes in the Update section. I can't find a bug in the 11.2.0 series that looks for a way to trim the builds. Removing unwanted activities is the fastest way to free up space. The available space is shown when you right-click on the journal. I agree that the build is too big on the XO-1, leaving insufficient free space on disk. I don't agree that swap space is required. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F14-build size
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Subject: Re: F14-build size To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 4:13 AM On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:50:03AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: [1] http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4965.msg33320#msg33320 This poster kimtoufectis somehow conflates build size with swap space, but the important points are covered; that there is little disk space for installing new activities or downloading files. These points can't be fixed by adding swap space, and so the remainder of the argument relating to swap space as a complex solution can be dismissed. One argument isn't described there, and that is that olpc-update fails. This is covered in the 10.1.3 release notes in the Update section. I can't find a bug in the 11.2.0 series that looks for a way to trim the builds. Removing unwanted activities is the fastest way to free up space. The available space is shown when you right-click on the journal. I agree that the build is too big on the XO-1, leaving insufficient free space on disk. I don't agree that swap space is required. If you kept reading you'd have seen that these were my points too ;) http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=4965.msg33323#msg33323 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F14-build size
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: You say that stripping firmware, dri and locale saves 50% of the disk space. Have you measured this or is this guesswork? It seems unlikely to me that these items would constitute ~350mb of compressed space, but I won't argue against real numbers ;) No. I said will increase the *available* space by almost 50%. eg from ~120MB today to ~170MB which I believe to be accurate. Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F14-build size
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: You say that stripping firmware, dri and locale saves 50% ... No. I said will increase the *available* space by almost 50%. eg from ~120MB today to ~170MB which I believe to be accurate. Interesting. Exactly what find / filter criteria are you using? How much is locales vs the rest? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: F14-build size
--- On Wed, 5/25/11, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: F14-build size To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org, OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 9:34 AM On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: You say that stripping firmware, dri and locale saves 50% ... No. I said will increase the *available* space by almost 50%. eg from ~120MB today to ~170MB which I believe to be accurate. Interesting. Exactly what find / filter criteria are you using? How much is locales vs the rest? m I know that `df' is not the most accurate but here are the numbers from os18. FilesystemType 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/ubi0_0 ext3878M 766M 112M 88% / tmpfstmpfs114M0M 114M 0% /dev/shm /tmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /tmp vartmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /var/tmp varlog tmpfs 20M1M 20M 1% /var/log /dev/mtdblock2 jffs2 24M 11M 14M 46% /bootpart without extra locales FilesystemType 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/ubi0_0 ext3878M 740M 138M 85% / tmpfstmpfs114M0M 114M 0% /dev/shm /tmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /tmp vartmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /var/tmp varlog tmpfs 20M1M 20M 1% /var/log /dev/mtdblock2 jffs2 24M 11M 14M 46% /bootpart without extra locales and firmware FilesystemType 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/ubi0_0 ext3878M 728M 151M 83% / tmpfstmpfs114M0M 114M 0% /dev/shm /tmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /tmp vartmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /var/tmp varlog tmpfs 20M1M 20M 1% /var/log /dev/mtdblock2 jffs2 24M 11M 14M 46% /bootpart without extra locales and firmware and dri FilesystemType 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/ubi0_0 ext3878M 710M 168M 81% / tmpfstmpfs114M0M 114M 0% /dev/shm /tmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /tmp vartmp tmpfs 50M1M 50M 1% /var/tmp varlog tmpfs 20M1M 20M 1% /var/log /dev/mtdblock2 jffs2 24M 11M 14M 46% /bootpart ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
