Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-11 Thread Ixo X oxI
Another thought  how difficult would it be to post a summary of the
differences between the weekly builds ? ... so it's quick to see what has
changed or not between them.

(i.e. similar to the 'new joyride released announcements)

-iXo
p.s. Or shall I just create a TRAC entry on this idea? :)

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 14:59, NoiseEHC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Probably it would help if the linked pages would contain a link to the
 specified build's directory at

 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2263/devel_jffs2/http://xs-dev.laptop.org/%7Ecscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/build2263/devel_jffs2/
 Just my 0.02$

 Michael Stone wrote:
  We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until
  Wednesday, August 13.
 
  Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing
 
  while we still have time to fix issues you might find!
 
  Our specific interest this week continues to be activity compatibility:
 
Does your favorite activity still run on joyride-2263?
 
  Currently known issues are recorded at:
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2263
 
  New issues should be filed in our bug-tracking system (dev.laptop.org)
  according to
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Submitting_bugs
 
  or by notifying us by other means.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Michael
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-09 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until
 Wednesday, August 13.

 Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

 while we still have time to fix issues you might find!

 Our specific interest this week continues to be activity compatibility:

  Does your favorite activity still run on joyride-2263?

 Currently known issues are recorded at:

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2263

 New issues should be filed in our bug-tracking system (dev.laptop.org)
 according to

   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Submitting_bugs

 or by notifying us by other means.

 Thanks!

 Michael


This isn't really a bug but rather a general observation so I'm not quite
sure where to put it...

When you're in the software-update panel of the control-panel then there are
cancel and ok buttons in the upper right corner. However the ok button
seems redundant as they both do exactly the same thing: close the panel and
take you back to the main configuration screen. At least that's the case
when the software is up-to-date. IIRC you also need to press a button inside
the panel for updating when there's new software available which would again
make the ok-button redundant.

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-09 Thread S Page
Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
 When you're in the software-update panel of the control-panel then there 
 are cancel and ok buttons in the upper right corner. However the 
 ok button seems redundant as they both do exactly the same thing: 
 close the panel and take you back to the main configuration screen.

A variant of http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7643 ?

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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread John Gilmore
 On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big Software
 Update window popped, and said do you want to install all these
 activities.
 
 Colour me impressed. Bravo!
 
 Now, who's coded this up? I am keen on devising a way to fetch the
 activities locally (if an XS is present) via http or rsync.

I have an idea -- let's put the same set of activities that it would fetch
(locally or over the Internet) right into the OS flash image.

John
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 07:33, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Langhoff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a better / handier way?

 On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big Software
 Update window popped, and said do you want to install all these
 activities.

 Colour me impressed. Bravo!

 Now, who's coded this up? I am keen on devising a way to fetch the
 activities locally (if an XS is present) via http or rsync.

You must be talking about C.Scott's software updater control panel thingy.

Regards
Morgan
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Walter Bender
 The bottleneck is in the XO hardware that all of the tests run on (and
 the number of tests we choose to do), rather than in hardware that we
 can upgrade.

I wonder if there is some way to parallelize this across multiple XOs?
Not ever XO running every test? Presumably multiple XOs are not the
bottleneck any more.

-walter
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread James Cameron
2263 hung on a B4 and MP several times while I was testing this evening,
the mouse would not move, keyboard did nothing, the display would be
static, and no ping response.

Things that I did that could induce it:

- running a pygame program http://quozl.linux.org.au/k74/ (happened
  twice, out of two tries),

- doing an olpc-update joyride in Terminal, (happened once, out of one
  try),

- clicking to take a picture in Record, (happened once, out of one try),

Things that did not induce it:

- doing an olpc-update joyride-2269 in a virtual console,

I remain puzzled.  I've run out of time and awareness to diagnose
further, but thought I'd post my observations in case anyone else
notices any correlation.  Sorry.  Not enough data yet.

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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread NoiseEHC
2263 works for me.
Something fixed the system crash made by Record I have experienced on 
2230 (so I will not file a ticket for that).
Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the 
application stops starting).

What started with 2263 is that when the system wakes the display acts 
strangely. What I see is similar when there is a noisy (analog) TV 
broadcast and horizontal distortions run trough the display in a 
vertical direction.
If I am in Browse and switch to the Neighborhood view then sometimes the 
XO starts drawing the view and for a frame I can see the Browse then it 
jumps back to drawing. It can be the same thing as the distortion thing 
or dunno. Maybe a DCON bug or X uses wrong panel settings?

My another $0.02 is that it would be a good idea to zip the .toc and 
.usb files together in every build since
1. Can be compressed to 40% and as such faster to download
2. The .zip file could act as a checksum (it is not too easy to checksum 
downloads on a windows machine...)

Michael Stone wrote:
 We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until
 Wednesday, August 13.

 Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

 while we still have time to fix issues you might find!

 Our specific interest this week continues to be activity compatibility: 

   Does your favorite activity still run on joyride-2263?

 Currently known issues are recorded at: 

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2263

 New issues should be filed in our bug-tracking system (dev.laptop.org)
 according to 

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Submitting_bugs

 or by notifying us by other means.

 Thanks!

 Michael
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:59 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
 2263 hung on a B4 and MP several times while I was testing this evening,
 the mouse would not move, keyboard did nothing, the display would be
 static, and no ping response.
 
 Things that I did that could induce it:
 
 - running a pygame program http://quozl.linux.org.au/k74/ (happened
   twice, out of two tries),
 
 - doing an olpc-update joyride in Terminal, (happened once, out of one
   try),
 
 - clicking to take a picture in Record, (happened once, out of one try),

Please file tickets even if you haven't had time to get further info
yet. Thanks for testing!

Daniel


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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 15:45 +0200, NoiseEHC wrote:
 Speak cannot be started (the icon blinks for a long time and then the 
 application stops starting).

Please file a ticket.

 What started with 2263 is that when the system wakes the display acts 
 strangely. What I see is similar when there is a noisy (analog) TV 
 broadcast and horizontal distortions run trough the display in a 
 vertical direction.

I see the same, sounds ticket worthy.

 If I am in Browse and switch to the Neighborhood view then sometimes the 
 XO starts drawing the view and for a frame I can see the Browse then it 
 jumps back to drawing. It can be the same thing as the distortion thing 
 or dunno. Maybe a DCON bug or X uses wrong panel settings?

Probably worth a ticket as well.

Thanks,
Daniel


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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:20:23AM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
 Please file tickets even if you haven't had time to get further info
 yet. Thanks for testing!

No time for that, I already submitted three other tickets already on
unrelated problems, my purpose in posting to the mailing list was to
report quickly without having to ensure the report quality was high.

If I get time, I shall try reproducing the problem and raise a ticket.

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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 02:45:56PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
 We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until
 Wednesday, August 13.

Apologies for the text substitution failure. The correct build is, in
fact, joyride-2263.

Michael
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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

Preparing for a smoketest event I'm organising tomorrow, I am doing
a copy-nand install on 5 XOs I have here, and want to have a
consistent set of activities.

What activities do you want this tested with? For starters, I will
install get the G1G1 activity pack, are those too old? Does it get
regenerated with newer activities?

I did a quick test with xo-get.py to see if it was a handy way of
getting a set of activities installed but it is not, because

 - the base img doesn't have Terminal, and xo-get doesn't like to run on a VT
 - there's no easy cli way to install many activities (xo-get
--force-yes pack-g1g1)

is there a better / handier way?

cheers,



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Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!

2008-08-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a better / handier way?

On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big Software
Update window popped, and said do you want to install all these
activities.

Colour me impressed. Bravo!

Now, who's coded this up? I am keen on devising a way to fetch the
activities locally (if an XS is present) via http or rsync.

cheers,


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