Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 04:13 -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not The PO file for TamTam has been completed (except for the newly added summary). See: http://translate.sugarlabs.org/mi/honey/TamTamSuite.po?item=345view_mode=translate and following strings for the sound categories. What is needed to fix this is a new release of TamTam with the completed MO file. The translations you are seeing were probably committed before the TamTam release you are testing, but the PO file was not completed at that time, although it has been since. Alternately, you might be able to backfill Maori translations that are newer than the latest Activity release by using the self-installing langpack http://translate.sugarlabs.org/langpacks/0.94/mi_lang_pack_v2.sh Not sure how this would work on an OLPC-AU build though. Seems to install fine though OOB. Jerry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. There is no e-speak voice or language file specific for Maori. I think Barry Vercoe will be looking into addressing that. http://espeak.sourceforge.net/languages.html http://espeak.sourceforge.net/voices.html Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. Same issue as talking clock, both use e-speak voice engine. One alternative used by some people is to try all different available voice options to find one that sounds approximately like it should (based on similar language phoneme structure). This is a poor alternative to having a language specific voice, but might work in the interim. cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Deepak Muddha dee...@laptop.org.au wrote: Hi all All the bugs, enhancements were recorded in the system. It is good to record the bugs, even better to also record the diagnoses and fixes that followed in the thread, see references inter alia. On 13 October 2012 13:22, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2428 Problem identified and fixed, new activity release needed. http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036142.html Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2461 L10n complete, new Activity release needed http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036115.html Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2462 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036143.html Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2463 Screencast encoding was very slow. No translation. Saves to journal. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2469 Is ScreenCast the same as ClassRoomBoadcast? If so, note that ClassRoomBroacast is fully translated, must need a new release. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/mi/honey/classroombroadcast.po?view_mode=translate Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2464 Sorry this reply only went t oTabitha, I've since forwarded to list http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-October/036189.html cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
Hi all All the bugs, enhancements were recorded in the system. On 13 October 2012 13:22, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Rosella: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C09 with first language Maori and second language English (Great Britain) Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2428 Firefox froze when you press the stop button https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2460 Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2461 Record photos and videos worked fine Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2462 Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2463 Screencast encoding was very slow. Can you tell us approximately how much time it was taking for a video to encode in all three formats(low, medium,high) https://sugardextrose.org/issues/1285 No translation. Saves to journal. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2469 Attempting to play from the journal launches jukebox but the video doesn't play https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2470 Physics works Numbers works Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2464 Ivy: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C07 in English Maze, Memorize, Speak, Moon, Clock, Physics, Arithmetic, Implode, Tam Tam Mini all worked Turtle Machine: Three people (including a neuroscientist and a primary school teacher and a teacher of teachers) all got stuck at level 9 and couldn't get past it. Our school teacher suggests that once you complete a shape you should get told the name but we're not sure what to do when the shapes don't really have names. We also think there should be some sort of hint or help facility. It would also be good to skip a level if you get stuck on it but maybe this is cheating. You don't actually have to do very much for the first levels because all you have to do is click on the number and it auto-advances to the correct value (it jumps values, 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,12,30) and choose one angle less than what is already selected. Perhaps these should be type-in boxes where you have to choose the right angle? Eventually (7 hours later on revisiting the activity) we found there was a library of shapes created that we could reuse. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2465 Both One Education builds ask for the users age when you first start the laptop but you cannot enter an age with the keyboard, you have to use the clickers or the arrow keys. This was an expected behaviour. https://sugardextrose.org/issues/1592 XO-1.75 running One Education OS 1.2 (build au48) Moon, Implode, Memorize, Numbers, Slider Puzzle, Dimensions, Clock all work Jigsaw was unusably slow when dragging pieces https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2466 Screencast stops recording after one second and doesn't save anything in the journal (but it says it does) https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2468 The vmeta drivers won't load on this XO as they are for a different architecture. Is there any other way to get hardware accelerated video playback working? https://sugardextrose.org/issues/2467 XO-4 running 13.1.0 for XO-1.4 (build 5), firmware Q7B01 Startup sound has a raspy quality, pressing reasonably hard on the right hand speaker grille seems to make it much better. This laptop didn't shut down properly (perhaps because the shutdown screen isn't always correctly understood) and stayed on in the bag. It doesn't seem to have suffered from this. Touchscreen has an offset which makes using it quite difficult. Is there any further protection for the screen planned? It doesn't feel as robust to impact as any tablet I've used, and the matt finish looks like it might collect scratches. There is a slight misalignment between the game key holes and the game keys. This doesn't seem to stop them working. The front panel finish is glossy with faint tool marks, while the finish on the rest of the laptop is textured. The rotate button doesn't do anything Write works Get Books works but doesn't show icon as being coloured after you use it Read works Wikipedia didn't load any pages, it looked like it started to progress but it didn't Maze works Browse works but clicking in the dark areas of the scroll bar causes the screen to scroll to that absolute position rather than one screenful up or down. Thanks testers
Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Rosella: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C09 with first language Maori and second language English (Great Britain) Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case Firefox froze when you press the stop button Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not Record photos and videos worked fine Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. Screencast encoding was very slow. No translation. Saves to journal. Attempting to play from the journal launches jukebox but the video doesn't play Physics works Numbers works Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. Ivy: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C07 in English Maze, Memorize, Speak, Moon, Clock, Physics, Arithmetic, Implode, Tam Tam Mini all worked Turtle Machine: Three people (including a neuroscientist and a primary school teacher and a teacher of teachers) all got stuck at level 9 and couldn't get past it. Our school teacher suggests that once you complete a shape you should get told the name but we're not sure what to do when the shapes don't really have names. We also think there should be some sort of hint or help facility. It would also be good to skip a level if you get stuck on it but maybe this is cheating. You don't actually have to do very much for the first levels because all you have to do is click on the number and it auto-advances to the correct value (it jumps values, 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,12,30) and choose one angle less than what is already selected. Perhaps these should be type-in boxes where you have to choose the right angle? Eventually (7 hours later on revisiting the activity) we found there was a library of shapes created that we could reuse. Both One Education builds ask for the users age when you first start the laptop but you cannot enter an age with the keyboard, you have to use the clickers or the arrow keys. XO-1.75 running One Education OS 1.2 (build au48) Moon, Implode, Memorize, Numbers, Slider Puzzle, Dimensions, Clock all work Jigsaw was unusably slow when dragging pieces Screencast stops recording after one second and doesn't save anything in the journal (but it says it does) The vmeta drivers won't load on this XO as they are for a different architecture. Is there any other way to get hardware accelerated video playback working? XO-4 running 13.1.0 for XO-1.4 (build 5), firmware Q7B01 Startup sound has a raspy quality, pressing reasonably hard on the right hand speaker grille seems to make it much better. This laptop didn't shut down properly (perhaps because the shutdown screen isn't always correctly understood) and stayed on in the bag. It doesn't seem to have suffered from this. Touchscreen has an offset which makes using it quite difficult. Is there any further protection for the screen planned? It doesn't feel as robust to impact as any tablet I've used, and the matt finish looks like it might collect scratches. There is a slight misalignment between the game key holes and the game keys. This doesn't seem to stop them working. The front panel finish is glossy with faint tool marks, while the finish on the rest of the laptop is textured. The rotate button doesn't do anything Write works Get Books works but doesn't show icon as being coloured after you use it Read works Wikipedia didn't load any pages, it looked like it started to progress but it didn't Maze works Browse works but clicking in the dark areas of the scroll bar causes the screen to scroll to that absolute position rather than one screenful up or down. Thanks testers powerlogs.tar.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data tv.alterna.Clock-1.log.bz2.bz Description: Binary data com.garycmartin.Moon-1.log.bz2.bz Description: Binary data ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not The PO file for TamTam has been completed (except for the newly added summary). See: http://translate.sugarlabs.org/mi/honey/TamTamSuite.po?item=345view_mode=translate and following strings for the sound categories. What is needed to fix this is a new release of TamTam with the completed MO file. The translations you are seeing were probably committed before the TamTam release you are testing, but the PO file was not completed at that time, although it has been since. Alternately, you might be able to backfill Maori translations that are newer than the latest Activity release by using the self-installing langpack http://translate.sugarlabs.org/langpacks/0.94/mi_lang_pack_v2.sh Not sure how this would work on an OLPC-AU build though. cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
Dear Welly testers, I could not find a list of activity versions present in the build you are testing. Version number is a critical piece of information for tracking back to check on whether L10n issues are due to an incomplete PO file at the time of version release or some other cause. Can you tell me which version of clock and TamTamMini was tested? cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
+1 for maintainers is very important to know what activity versions are you testing. Gonzalo On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Welly testers, I could not find a list of activity versions present in the build you are testing. Version number is a critical piece of information for tracking back to check on whether L10n issues are due to an incomplete PO file at the time of version release or some other cause. Can you tell me which version of clock and TamTamMini was tested? cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On 14/10/12 06:49, Chris Leonard wrote: I could not find a list of activity versions present in the build you are testing. Version number is a critical piece of information for tracking back to check on whether L10n issues are due to an incomplete PO file at the time of version release or some other cause. Indeed. We normally quote the build identifier and if we update activities then explain that too. However in this case, I see that One Education OS 1.2 (build au248) doesn't show up in google, and I can't find any release notes. Indeed http://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/general/activity?show_issues=1show_news=1show_wiki_edits=1 is completly empty. Can you tell me which version of clock and TamTamMini was tested? Clock 9 and TamTamMini 63.1 and Moon 13. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
Hi Tabitha, On 13 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Auckland Testing Summary 13 October 2012 Who: Alana, Fabiana, John, Oliver, Tabitha and Tom Rosella: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C09 with first language Maori and second language English (Great Britain) Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case Thanks for testing and the log files! Looks like the Moon Maori pootle string has a typo in: Surface Visibility:\n%.0f%% (estimated)\n\n ValueError: unsupported format character 'O' (0x4f) at index 16 So that error looks like the translator has typed in a O (capital letter O) instead of a 0 (number zero). Firefox froze when you press the stop button Tam Tam Mini was mostly translated but the category names (percussion, animal etc for the instruments) were not Record photos and videos worked fine Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. Looks like the translator has removed all the strings for the rules for generating the time in text, the error in the log suggest it found no rules. If you enable the toolbar button Display time in full letters, do you see the time printed in Maori (or the default english)? My guess is you'll see noting, or worse will crash. Screencast encoding was very slow. No translation. Saves to journal. Attempting to play from the journal launches jukebox but the video doesn't play Physics works Fab, I'm glad one of mine worked! :) BTW your cogs feature suggestion didn't make it into this release cycle, and we're frozen for new features now :( Maybe I'll get back to it once the XO-4 bug hunting/fixing calms down in a month or so. Regards, --Gary Numbers works Speak has an english accent and doesn't understand the macrons. The robot greeting I'm a robot alice... has been translated but the robot converses in english otherwise. Ivy: XO-1.5 One Education OS 1.2 (build au248), Firmware Q3C07 in English Maze, Memorize, Speak, Moon, Clock, Physics, Arithmetic, Implode, Tam Tam Mini all worked Turtle Machine: Three people (including a neuroscientist and a primary school teacher and a teacher of teachers) all got stuck at level 9 and couldn't get past it. Our school teacher suggests that once you complete a shape you should get told the name but we're not sure what to do when the shapes don't really have names. We also think there should be some sort of hint or help facility. It would also be good to skip a level if you get stuck on it but maybe this is cheating. You don't actually have to do very much for the first levels because all you have to do is click on the number and it auto-advances to the correct value (it jumps values, 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,12,30) and choose one angle less than what is already selected. Perhaps these should be type-in boxes where you have to choose the right angle? Eventually (7 hours later on revisiting the activity) we found there was a library of shapes created that we could reuse. Both One Education builds ask for the users age when you first start the laptop but you cannot enter an age with the keyboard, you have to use the clickers or the arrow keys. XO-1.75 running One Education OS 1.2 (build au48) Moon, Implode, Memorize, Numbers, Slider Puzzle, Dimensions, Clock all work Jigsaw was unusably slow when dragging pieces Screencast stops recording after one second and doesn't save anything in the journal (but it says it does) The vmeta drivers won't load on this XO as they are for a different architecture. Is there any other way to get hardware accelerated video playback working? XO-4 running 13.1.0 for XO-1.4 (build 5), firmware Q7B01 Startup sound has a raspy quality, pressing reasonably hard on the right hand speaker grille seems to make it much better. This laptop didn't shut down properly (perhaps because the shutdown screen isn't always correctly understood) and stayed on in the bag. It doesn't seem to have suffered from this. Touchscreen has an offset which makes using it quite difficult. Is there any further protection for the screen planned? It doesn't feel as robust to impact as any tablet I've used, and the matt finish looks like it might collect scratches. There is a slight misalignment between the game key holes and the game keys. This doesn't seem to stop them working. The front panel finish is glossy with faint tool marks, while the finish on the rest of the laptop is textured. The rotate button doesn't do anything Write works Get Books works but doesn't show icon as being coloured after you use it Read works Wikipedia didn't load any pages, it looked like it started to progress but it didn't Maze works Browse works but clicking in the
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Moon failed to start, but works if you change the language back to English, log file attached for failed to start case Thanks for testing and the log files! Looks like the Moon Maori pootle string has a typo in: Surface Visibility:\n%.0f%% (estimated)\n\n ValueError: unsupported format character 'O' (0x4f) at index 16 So that error looks like the translator has typed in a O (capital letter O) instead of a 0 (number zero). This typo has been corrected and the Maori moon.po re-committed. A new release will be needed to see it. cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing Summary - Auckland 13 October 2012
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Clock does not speak the time but otherwise works. Changing to English fixes the talking clock. Note that the Days of the week were not translated, but everything else was. Log attached. Looks like the translator has removed all the strings for the rules for generating the time in text, the error in the log suggest it found no rules. If you enable the toolbar button Display time in full letters, do you see the time printed in Maori (or the default english)? My guess is you'll see noting, or worse will crash. Gary is right. The rules string is rarely done correctly and Maori is no exception, the current entry is incorrect. I will reach out to the localizers to fix it. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/mi/honey/clock.po?item=17view_mode=translate cjl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
