Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-24 Thread Zvi Devir
The main problem with B2 is memory, not CPU speed. You can speed up your 
B2 machine by using the swap as the missing memory:
* Plug a USB2 storage device
* mkswap the device (mkswap /dev/sda1)
* Activate the swap (swapon /dev/sda1)
Technically, you can update fstab for automatic swap. Practically it's 
more complicated, and failed to automate the swap this way.

Cheers,
   Zvi

Jim Gettys wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:42 -0500, Stephen Bannasch wrote:
 We'ved ordered 2 of the G1G1 XOs for development at Concord
 Consortium but since they haven't arrived yet I installed Update.1
 690 on one of our B2-7 XOs.

 The install completed and the system works but it is extremely slow
 -- many minutes to start applications or switch contexts (presumably
 because it only has 128MB of ram).

 Questions:

 * Is there anything we can do to speed up the B2-7 XO?
 No, we do not plan to support the B2's further. Every day, more MP
 systems get built than the sum of developer prototypes; it just doesn't
 make sense. Some things will eventually help B2's but we can't afford
 the testing time, so I expect things will stop working.

 I'm suprised you were able to install 690 on a B2 in the first place.
 * Are there any older services or configurations which need to be
 deleted or modified?
 * Is it possible to add more RAM?
 No.
 I did receive the G1G1 XO I ordered personally and both Eliza (9-yr
 old daughter) and I are very impressed. I'm looking forward to
 digging into the system.
 Glad you like it.
 - Jim


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Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-07 Thread Jim Gettys

On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:42 -0500, Stephen Bannasch wrote:
 We'ved ordered 2 of the G1G1 XOs for development at Concord 
 Consortium but since they haven't arrived yet I installed Update.1 
 690 on one of our B2-7 XOs.
 
 The install completed and the system works but it is extremely slow 
 -- many minutes to start applications or switch contexts (presumably 
 because it only has 128MB of ram).
 
 Questions:
 
 * Is there anything we can do to speed up the B2-7 XO?

No, we do not plan to support the B2's further.  Every day, more MP
systems get built than the sum of developer prototypes; it just doesn't
make sense.  Some things will eventually help B2's but we can't afford
the testing time, so I expect things will stop working.

I'm suprised you were able to install 690 on a B2 in the first place.

 * Are there any older services or configurations which need to be 
 deleted or modified?
 * Is it possible to add more RAM?

No.

 
 I did receive the G1G1 XO I ordered personally and both Eliza (9-yr 
 old daughter) and I are very impressed. I'm looking forward to 
 digging into the system.

Glad you like it.
   - Jim

 
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One Laptop Per Child


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Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-06 Thread Stephen Bannasch
We'ved ordered 2 of the G1G1 XOs for development at Concord 
Consortium but since they haven't arrived yet I installed Update.1 
690 on one of our B2-7 XOs.

The install completed and the system works but it is extremely slow 
-- many minutes to start applications or switch contexts (presumably 
because it only has 128MB of ram).

Questions:

* Is there anything we can do to speed up the B2-7 XO?
* Are there any older services or configurations which need to be 
deleted or modified?
* Is it possible to add more RAM?

I did receive the G1G1 XO I ordered personally and both Eliza (9-yr 
old daughter) and I are very impressed. I'm looking forward to 
digging into the system.

-- 
- Stephen Bannasch
   Concord Consortium, http://www.concord.org
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Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-06 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Stephen,

Your B2 will not run recent builds properly. It is suggested that you use
the image bellow:
http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/build406.16/http://dev.laptop.org/%7Equozl/build406.16/

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On Feb 6, 2008 1:42 PM, Stephen Bannasch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 We'ved ordered 2 of the G1G1 XOs for development at Concord
 Consortium but since they haven't arrived yet I installed Update.1
 690 on one of our B2-7 XOs.

 The install completed and the system works but it is extremely slow
 -- many minutes to start applications or switch contexts (presumably
 because it only has 128MB of ram).

 Questions:

 * Is there anything we can do to speed up the B2-7 XO?
 * Are there any older services or configurations which need to be
 deleted or modified?
 * Is it possible to add more RAM?

 I did receive the G1G1 XO I ordered personally and both Eliza (9-yr
 old daughter) and I are very impressed. I'm looking forward to
 digging into the system.

 --
 - Stephen Bannasch
   Concord Consortium, http://www.concord.org
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Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-06 Thread Stephen Bannasch

At 4:49 PM -0200 2/6/08, Ricardo Carrano wrote:

Stephen,

Your B2 will not run recent builds properly. It is suggested that 
you use the image bellow:

http://dev.laptop.org/%7Equozl/build406.16/http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/build406.16/

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Thanks for the info Ricardo.

Actually it's quite impressive how much does work. Many apps 
(Measure, Terminal, Piper, Calculator, Analyze, Memory, etc.) start, 
function, and stop -- slowly but without obvious error.


Record gets to a certain point and hang with a green screen of death.

EToys starts for a while and then just quietly goes away.

Browse operates but then gets quite sluggish.

I was just able to use Browse to find Implode. I downloaded it and 
ran it from Browse -- after quite a while both Browse and Implode 
were no longer active but I can then start and run Implode from Sugar.


Here's what the boot directory on the USB Flash stick I was using to 
update the B2-7 XO looks like now:


[/Volumes/OLPC1]$ ls -l boot
total 609040
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen  17239 Oct 23 13:05 olpc.fth
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen  21069 Jan  2 16:19 os656.crc
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen  306839552 Jan  2 16:19 os656.img
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen1048576 Feb  2 16:39 q2d12.rom
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen1559984 Oct 23 13:01 usbupgos.img
-rwxrwxrwx   1 stephen  stephen2333277 Oct 23 13:01 usbupgrd.img

With regard to build406.16. Can I just replace os656.crc and 
os656.img in the boot dir on my USB flash stick with os406.icrc and 
os406.img and startup with it?


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Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Stephen Bannasch wrote:
 With regard to build406.16. Can I just replace os656.crc and os656.img 
 in the boot dir on my USB flash stick with os406.icrc and os406.img 
 and startup with it?

 Will build406.16 work with q2d12?


Q2D12 is compatible with all OS builds that have come out in recent memory.

To downgrade to a lower numbered OS, you can type this command:

ok  copy-nand u:\os406.img

(or copy-nand u:\boot\os406.img if you have put the file in the boot 
subdirectory)

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