Sugar without mono

2010-12-06 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On my Ubuntu 10.10 I am trying to install Sugar Desktop

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar Page says,

  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix

But this will install tomboy/mono also.

This is very bad bad and bad. Please let me know how i can install
sugar without mono.

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Re: Sugar without mono

2010-12-06 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:58:43AM +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
 On my Ubuntu 10.10 I am trying to install Sugar Desktop
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar Page says,
 
   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix
 
 But this will install tomboy/mono also.
 
 This is very bad bad and bad. Please let me know how i can install
 sugar without mono.

This isn't the right mailing list.  There's a Sugar mailing list for
this kind of question, but here is my answer:

tomboy is a depends of ubuntu-sugar-remix but mono is not.

sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix
sudo apt-get remove --purge tomboy mono

This will install the metapackage, then remove the packages you think
you don't need.  As a result, the packages that called those packages in
will also be removed.

ubuntu-sugar-remix is a metapackage with a huge list of dependencies,
see apt-cache show ubuntu-sugar-remix.

If you just want Sugar without all these dependencies, then don't use
ubuntu-sugar-remix, instead use the individual package names.

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Re: Sugar without mono

2010-12-06 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 On my Ubuntu 10.10 I am trying to install Sugar Desktop
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar Page says,

   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix

 But this will install tomboy/mono also.

 This is very bad bad and bad. Please let me know how i can install sugar
 without mono.

The base Sugar source has no dependencies on mono or any mono based
packages so you'll need to report a bug in the ubuntu based bug
tracking system for whoever maintains the sugar packages in ubuntu to
get the problem fixed.

Peter
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Re: Patches for a faster wikibrowse

2010-12-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hi Martin,

This sounds like a great improvement!

BTW, has anyone looked into syncing up to a newer version of the 'mwlib'
library?

mwlib was under active development when I grabbed it for the activity like 2
years ago, so there may have been nice fixes since then.  One of the major
issues it had was not outputting completely valid XHTML, which is why we had
to run the output through a beautifier before passing it to Firefox.  (It
had to be XHTML for Firefox to display the MathML)  That may be costing some
time.

Best,
Wade

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there a 'make a release' script anywhere? I haven't seen one, so
  I'm following

 Ok - for the English wikipedia I had to revert various files as the
 code in wikiserver.git assumes Spanish.

 Please test the bundles at http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/wikipedia_es/
 and http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/wikipedia_en/

 cheers,


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  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
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Re: Sugar without mono

2010-12-06 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:28 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 02:58:43AM +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
  On my Ubuntu 10.10 I am trying to install Sugar Desktop
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar Page says,
 
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix
 
  But this will install tomboy/mono also.
 
  This is very bad bad and bad. Please let me know how i can install
  sugar without mono.

 This isn't the right mailing list.  There's a Sugar mailing list for
 this kind of question, but here is my answer:

 tomboy is a depends of ubuntu-sugar-remix but mono is not.

 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sugar-remix
 sudo apt-get remove --purge tomboy mono

 This will install the metapackage, then remove the packages you think
 you don't need.  As a result, the packages that called those packages in
 will also be removed.

 ubuntu-sugar-remix is a metapackage with a huge list of dependencies,
 see apt-cache show ubuntu-sugar-remix.

 If you just want Sugar without all these dependencies, then don't use
 ubuntu-sugar-remix, instead use the individual package names.

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@James and Peter,

Thanks a lot for your kind info.

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Looking for startup sound recording

2010-12-06 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
I'm looking for a recording of the XO startup sound. It is identified
on this wiki page as Edge1-8k-EQ-Comp-Amp-Short.wav:

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_sound

However, the link to the file is broken, and Web searching isn't helping either.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy in a standard format?

Thanks


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Re: Looking for startup sound recording

2010-12-06 Thread Paul Fox
sridhar wrote:
  I'm looking for a recording of the XO startup sound. It is identified
  on this wiki page as Edge1-8k-EQ-Comp-Amp-Short.wav:
  
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_sound
  
  However, the link to the file is broken, and Web searching isn't
  helping either.
  
  Does anyone know where I can get a copy in a standard format?

i think there are mp3 and wav copies here:
http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/Edge1.mp3
http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/Edge1.wav

but the computer i'm using right now isn't audio-capable, so you'll have
to listen and decide for yourself if it's the right tune.  :-)

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Re: Looking for startup sound recording

2010-12-06 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 03:32:50PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 I'm looking for a recording of the XO startup sound. It is identified
 on this wiki page as Edge1-8k-EQ-Comp-Amp-Short.wav:
 
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_sound
 
 However, the link to the file is broken,

Fixed.

(You'll notice that on a good sound system it is quite different to
playback on an XO ... it takes a bit of equalisation to reproduce the XO
speakers.)

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Re: [Server-devel] deregister laptops

2010-12-06 Thread David Leeming
 G'day David,
 XO-1 software release 10.1.2 is based on Sugar 0.84, which moved to
 using gconf for storing this setting.
 What should work is:
 1.  start Terminal activity,
 2.  type
   sugar-control-panel -c registration
3.  use ctrl-alt-erase to restart Sugar.
If that doesn't work, please let me know, as I'd like to track it.

Sorry it has taken me a while to get round to testing this. Well it does not
work. In terminal, the command above gives a lot of text feedback, referring
to a configuration server. Not sure what it is trying to do, but what I am
trying to achieve is to get the Register to appear on the XO home page
when you hover over the middle, under Shutdown and My settings; i.e. to
have the Register option available again in the shutdown dropdown menu so
that I can register the XO on another XS.

We have to do this quite often, for instance right now we have 25 teachers
from 3 schools with OLPC projects visiting one school for training. They all
need to access the XS server at that school, using their own laptops.

Hence we need to deregister them. I am not sure if this question is for the
Sugar dev or server dev list, but is certainly server related.

Any help appreciated! We are stuck at the moment. We are otherwise stuck; we
upgrade them XOs to 10.1.2 and now don't have access to the server without a
lot of time consuming work.

(it is a pity as the rm /home/olpc/.sugar/default/config method was well
understood here)






There's an alternate method using the gconftool-2 program that is
somewhat more complex.





gconftool-2 --set --type=string \
/desktop/sugar/backup_url \
''

And finally a brute force method rm -rf .gconf but this destroys other
settings, most of which may not be important.

References:

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10261
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7765
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7764
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6857
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5380

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Re: [Server-devel] deregister laptops

2010-12-06 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 03:19:40PM +1100, David Leeming wrote:
  G'day David,
  XO-1 software release 10.1.2 is based on Sugar 0.84, which moved to
  using gconf for storing this setting.
  What should work is:
  1.  start Terminal activity,
  2.  type
  sugar-control-panel -c registration
 3.  use ctrl-alt-erase to restart Sugar.
 If that doesn't work, please let me know, as I'd like to track it.
 
 Sorry it has taken me a while to get round to testing this. Well it does not
 work. In terminal, the command above gives a lot of text feedback, referring
 to a configuration server.

Good, please provide the text feedback, it is critical for understanding
the problem.  You can capture that with a screenshot, Alt/1, or use the
Linux script command.

 Not sure what it is trying to do, but what I am
 trying to achieve is to get the Register to appear on the XO home page
 when you hover over the middle, under Shutdown and My settings; i.e. to
 have the Register option available again in the shutdown dropdown menu so
 that I can register the XO on another XS.

Yes, that is what I understand you need.

 We have to do this quite often, for instance right now we have 25 teachers
 from 3 schools with OLPC projects visiting one school for training. They all
 need to access the XS server at that school, using their own laptops.

I've no issue with the need for the task.

 Hence we need to deregister them. I am not sure if this question is for the
 Sugar dev or server dev list, but is certainly server related.

It is Sugar related, but I'm happy to answer here.

 Any help appreciated! We are stuck at the moment. We are otherwise stuck; we
 upgrade them XOs to 10.1.2 and now don't have access to the server without a
 lot of time consuming work.
 
 (it is a pity as the rm /home/olpc/.sugar/default/config method was well
 understood here)

This changed in Sugar.

 There's an alternate method using the gconftool-2 program that is
 somewhat more complex.
 
 gconftool-2 --set --type=string \
 /desktop/sugar/backup_url \
 ''
 
 And finally a brute force method rm -rf .gconf but this destroys other
 settings, most of which may not be important.

Did either of these alternate methods work?

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Re: [Server-devel] deregister laptops

2010-12-06 Thread David Leeming
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 03:19:40PM +1100, David Leeming wrote:
  G'day David,
  XO-1 software release 10.1.2 is based on Sugar 0.84, which moved to
  using gconf for storing this setting.
  What should work is:
  1.  start Terminal activity,
  2.  type
  sugar-control-panel -c registration
 3.  use ctrl-alt-erase to restart Sugar.
 If that doesn't work, please let me know, as I'd like to track it.
 
 Sorry it has taken me a while to get round to testing this. Well it does
not
 work. In terminal, the command above gives a lot of text feedback,
referring
 to a configuration server.

 Good, please provide the text feedback, it is critical for understanding
 the problem.  You can capture that with a screenshot, Alt/1, or use the
 Linux script command.


Hi James, thanks for responding so quickly. Actually we can set up accounts
on the XS manually of course. But we need to know how to do this. The text
output is below

sugar-control-panel -c registration

sugar-control-panel: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible
causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have
stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/
for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not
send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.)


 There's an alternate method using the gconftool-2 program that is
 somewhat more complex.
 
 gconftool-2 --set --type=string \
 /desktop/sugar/backup_url \
 ''
 
 And finally a brute force method rm -rf .gconf but this destroys other
 settings, most of which may not be important.

 Did either of these alternate methods work?

- gconftool method gave same output as the first (as above)
- rm -rf .gconf gave no errors but after reboot there is no Register
option present in the home view shutdown menu, only Shutdown and My
Settings. So I guess no.

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