Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Krisztian Olah]

Hi Dirk,
  If it's a rebranded aqua fish, which I believe it is, it won't have the other 
half feature. I didn't see any mention of nfc, even though that was the 
specific feature I was looking for. 
Any one in the know please correct me if I'm wrong. Without nfc it isn't enough 
improvement over my Jolla to consider it.
Just my 2 pence.
Kris

On Thu May 26 14:12:19 2016 GMT+0100, Dirk Thierbach wrote:
> Jolla Community wrote:
> > As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for
> > *you*, the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device
> > Program, you will get access to special content and R sessions, event
> > invitations, and the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community
> > edition /*Jolla C*/.
> 
> So that's a Snapdragon 212 phone, a SoC which looks very similar to the
> Snapdragon 400 used in the old Jolla. Though the second SIM slot is nice
> to have.
> 
> Now the interesting question is if the design, uh, oversights of the
> old Jolla phone have been fixed? That is,
> 
> * is the FM radio actually usable (internal antenna connected)?
> * can the USB used in OTG mode?
> * is the NFC sensor available for general usage, instead of being
>   reserved to identify the other half?
> 
> From the image on https://jolla.com/jollac, it looks like the concept
> of the other half has been kept.
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Schturman (gmail.com)]

I just pressed checkout and choose the same address that saved from purchasing 
of Jolla 1. It gave me option to complete purchase via paypal..

Emil

On Thu May 26 16:13:13 2016 GMT+0300, sailfishm...@denden.pw wrote:
> The shop UI sucks a bit, to be able to choose your correct country, you firat 
> had to select correct country from the bottom of the page wih gray text.. 
> Saying something like "Country: European Union Language: English ..."
> And then click "save".
> 
> I managed to get correct address with my old shop account before I found out 
> how to do it.
> 
> -Asser
> 
> ju...@swagman.org kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:55:32 2016 GMT+0300:
> > Vincent Berset kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:49:18 2016 GMT+0300:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > The announcement says “Jolla C device can be shipped to EU countries, 
> > > Norway and
> > > Switzerland” but I can’t select Switzerland as shipping country.
> > > 
> > 
> > Well, there was no option for Finland either! :(
> > What I did is I just ignored it, and set my country as "France" and added 
> > sender information that my country is FINLAND in reality...
> > 
> >- juice - 
> > 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Oleksii Serdiuk]

The reason is Android drivers / adaptation version.

Jolla has Android API level 16 (4.1.2), but BLE was introduced in API 
level 18 (4.3+).


Jolla Tablet should have API level 19 (4.4+), so if someone has one they 
could check BLE support in Android.


Aqua Fish came out after the tablet, so I'd expect at least API level 
19, thus BLE support in Android.


On 26.05.2016 14:44, juice wrote:

Oleksii Serdiuk kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:41:

I think that the question might have been BTLE support in Android. On
Jolla Phone it doesn't work due to old Android version.

From the specs it looks like a "rebranded" Aqua Fish, so I expect BTLE
support in Android to be present.



OK, that never crossed my mind since I could not care less about Android
support :)

But indeed if it is that, what makes you think that the Android support
in the Intex phone would be different version than what's on the Jolla SBJ?
I'd imagine both have exactly the same Dalvik version since the OS
version is same too...

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[sailfishmail]

The shop UI sucks a bit, to be able to choose your correct country, you firat 
had to select correct country from the bottom of the page wih gray text.. 
Saying something like "Country: European Union Language: English ..."
And then click "save".

I managed to get correct address with my old shop account before I found out 
how to do it.

-Asser

ju...@swagman.org kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:55:32 2016 GMT+0300:
> Vincent Berset kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:49:18 2016 GMT+0300:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > The announcement says “Jolla C device can be shipped to EU countries, 
> > Norway and
> > Switzerland” but I can’t select Switzerland as shipping country.
> > 
> 
> Well, there was no option for Finland either! :(
> What I did is I just ignored it, and set my country as "France" and added 
> sender information that my country is FINLAND in reality...
> 
>- juice - 
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Dirk Thierbach]

Jolla Community wrote:
> As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for
> *you*, the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device
> Program, you will get access to special content and R sessions, event
> invitations, and the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community
> edition /*Jolla C*/.

So that's a Snapdragon 212 phone, a SoC which looks very similar to the
Snapdragon 400 used in the old Jolla. Though the second SIM slot is nice
to have.

Now the interesting question is if the design, uh, oversights of the
old Jolla phone have been fixed? That is,

* is the FM radio actually usable (internal antenna connected)?
* can the USB used in OTG mode?
* is the NFC sensor available for general usage, instead of being
  reserved to identify the other half?

>From the image on https://jolla.com/jollac, it looks like the concept
of the other half has been kept.

- Dirk
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Andrea Scarpino]

Cool program, thanks!

However it's a pity that it has no OTG support :-(

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jolla Community  wrote:
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>
> As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for you,
> the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device Program, you
> will get access to special content and R sessions, event invitations, and
> the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community edition Jolla C.
>
> Join the program now here.
>
> Read more about the Program in the latest Jolla blog post!
>
> On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
> James Noori
> Community Manager
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Dylan Van Assche]

Bluetooth 4.1 & BTLE is supported by Qualcomm:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/212

But I don't think that QT already has the right library for BTLE (Bluez5 
needed).

Dylan


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Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish 
Community Device Program now!
Local Time: May 26, 2016 2:57 PM
UTC Time: May 26, 2016 12:57 PM
From: mikel...@gmail.com
To: ju...@swagman.org,devel@lists.sailfishos.org

Well, I suppose that depends on what Qualcomm supports on their chip.
The intel tablet also has a more recent version of android.

But it would be interesting to have BTLE support for native programs,
and I think we need a recent Qt library for that.

Luciano


On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM, juice  wrote:
> Oleksii Serdiuk kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:41:
>>
>> I think that the question might have been BTLE support in Android. On
>> Jolla Phone it doesn't work due to old Android version.
>>
>> From the specs it looks like a "rebranded" Aqua Fish, so I expect BTLE
>> support in Android to be present.
>>
>
> OK, that never crossed my mind since I could not care less about Android
> support :)
>
> But indeed if it is that, what makes you think that the Android support in
> the Intex phone would be different version than what's on the Jolla SBJ?
> I'd imagine both have exactly the same Dalvik version since the OS version
> is same too...
>
>
> - juice -
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Oskari Tulonen]

Hi,

I had the same issue with Finland not appearing as an option until I 
chose the country and language as "Suomi" on the bottom of the page. 
After that, Finland was listed as an option. I am not sure whether there 
is a similar trick that works for Switzerland.


Kind regards,
Oskari Tulonen

On 26.5.2016 15:55, ju...@swagman.org wrote:

Vincent Berset kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:49:18 2016 GMT+0300:

Hello,

The announcement says “Jolla C device can be shipped to EU countries, Norway and
Switzerland” but I can’t select Switzerland as shipping country.



Well, there was no option for Finland either! :(
What I did is I just ignored it, and set my country as "France" and added 
sender information that my country is FINLAND in reality...

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Luciano Montanaro]

Well, I suppose that depends on what Qualcomm supports on their chip.
The intel tablet also has a more recent version of android.

But it would be interesting to have BTLE support for native programs,
and I think we need a recent Qt library for that.

Luciano


On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM, juice  wrote:
> Oleksii Serdiuk kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:41:
>>
>> I think that the question might have been BTLE support in Android. On
>> Jolla Phone it doesn't work due to old Android version.
>>
>> From the specs it looks like a "rebranded" Aqua Fish, so I expect BTLE
>> support in Android to be present.
>>
>
> OK, that never crossed my mind since I could not care less about Android
> support :)
>
> But indeed if it is that, what makes you think that the Android support in
> the Intex phone would be different version than what's on the Jolla SBJ?
> I'd imagine both have exactly the same Dalvik version since the OS version
> is same too...
>
>
>   - juice -
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[juice]

Vincent Berset kirjoitti to toukokuuta 26 15:49:18 2016 GMT+0300:
> Hello,
> 
> The announcement says “Jolla C device can be shipped to EU countries, Norway 
> and
> Switzerland” but I can’t select Switzerland as shipping country.
> 

Well, there was no option for Finland either! :(
What I did is I just ignored it, and set my country as "France" and added 
sender information that my country is FINLAND in reality...

   - juice - 

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Vincent Berset]

Hello,

The announcement says “Jolla C device can be shipped to EU countries, Norway and
Switzerland” but I can’t select Switzerland as shipping country.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[juice]

Oleksii Serdiuk kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:41:

I think that the question might have been BTLE support in Android. On
Jolla Phone it doesn't work due to old Android version.

From the specs it looks like a "rebranded" Aqua Fish, so I expect BTLE
support in Android to be present.



OK, that never crossed my mind since I could not care less about Android 
support :)


But indeed if it is that, what makes you think that the Android support 
in the Intex phone would be different version than what's on the Jolla 
SBJ?
I'd imagine both have exactly the same Dalvik version since the OS 
version is same too...


  - juice -

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Oleksii Serdiuk]

I think that the question might have been BTLE support in Android. On 
Jolla Phone it doesn't work due to old Android version.


From the specs it looks like a "rebranded" Aqua Fish, so I expect BTLE 
support in Android to be present.


On 26.05.2016 14:30, juice wrote:

Michele Tameni kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:08:

Any info about the BTLE support?


I'd be *really* surprised if BTLE did not work since there currently
doesn't exist any BT chipsets without the feature.
It most probably works as easily as with the previous Jolla device.

   - juice -

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[juice]

Michele Tameni kirjoitti 2016-05-26 15:08:

Any info about the BTLE support?


I'd be *really* surprised if BTLE did not work since there currently 
doesn't exist any BT chipsets without the feature.

It most probably works as easily as with the previous Jolla device.

  - juice -

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Re: [SailfishDevel] New Jolla Community Program Launching today - be prepared!

[Stephen Mahood]

Sadly the US is not a shipping location, I am sure it is related to 
FCC, minor bummer as it would be cool to test it out.


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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:24 AM, Dylan Van Assche 
 wrote:

Nice!

On which website will it be available? I don't want to lose time with 
searching after the right URL.



Dylan




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Subject: [SailfishDevel] New Jolla Community Program Launching today 
- be prepared!

Local Time: 26 May 2016 7:02 AM
UTC Time: 26 May 2016 05:02
From: commun...@jolla.com
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org

Dear Jolla community member,

As a recipient of this email you are among the loyal members of the 
Sailfish Community, and have accompanied and supported us along the 
way, a million thanks for that!


Later today at noon Central European Summer time (1pm in Finland, 
11am in the UK) we will announce and open a new Sailfish Community 
Program. It will include a limited edition Sailfish OS community 
device, among other exclusive perks. As this program is open to 
everybody, and we only can take a limited amount of registrants to 
the program, we want to alert you, our closest community members 
about it beforehand.


Contrary to a normal marketing situation, this time we strongly ask 
you not to make much public noise about this before it is launched - 
this could decrease your or your fellow community members' 
possibility of getting in.


So please be alert and quick today and secure your registration!

D-I-T!

On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Devel Digest, Vol 25, Issue 16

[Irvin Choi]

The link is here: http://jolla.com/jollac. Although, I am excited about
what is to come in the future, I would appreciate if someone could
elaborate as of why specific hardware is required to participate on the
improvement program? Instead, what was the reason behind that it could not
be a one-time digital purchase? I like the fact that it addresses few
hardware limitations that current Jolla have, which may make the testing
process smoother, but I am not sure the reason behind the hardware being
limited (not as in community program but limited purchases available), as
it could be another product line for Jolla. If my assumptions are correct,
is JollaC to be organized in a way that after the initial testing, it is to
be released as new product line? As you may be aware, there are limitations
for JollaC as regions outside the shipping areas are not going to be able
to purchase the JollaC. Thus, it is sad for me that I am not going to be
able to participate on the Community Improvement Program and I request if
you could consider my suggestion of digital purchase.

This is just my thought. I would like to clarify that I want best for
Jolla, and this is meant to be constructive.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Luca Donaggio]

Thank you Kimmo, somehow I slipped that sentence :-P
Maybe it's my allergy to everything non SFOS :D

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Kimmo Lindholm 
wrote:

> https://jolla.com/jollac
>
>
>
> “Pure Sailfish OS 2.0 compatible with Android™ apps”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Lähettäjä:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:
> devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] *Puolesta *Luca Donaggio
> *Lähetetty:* 26. toukokuuta 2016 13:59
> *Vastaanottaja:* Sailfish OS Developers 
> *Aihe:* Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish
> Community Device Program now!
>
>
>
> Will this new Jolla C have Android support included? Even if I can rely
> 90% on Sailfosh OS only, there are still a few things I need Android for
> (mainly a bank app). I can't afford a new, developer-only device: to
> justify the expense I need it to become my main, everyday phone too.
>
> Can you please clarify this point?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jolla Community 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Jolla community member,
>
> As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for
> *you*, the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device
> Program, you will get access to special content and R sessions, event
> invitations, and the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community
> edition *Jolla C*.
>
> Join the program now here
> 
> .
>
> Read more about the Program in the latest Jolla blog post!
> 
>
> On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
> James Noori
> Community Manager
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Kimmo Lindholm]

https://jolla.com/jollac

“Pure Sailfish OS 2.0 compatible with Android™ apps”



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Aihe: Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community 
Device Program now!

Will this new Jolla C have Android support included? Even if I can rely 90% on 
Sailfosh OS only, there are still a few things I need Android for (mainly a 
bank app). I can't afford a new, developer-only device: to justify the expense 
I need it to become my main, everyday phone too.
Can you please clarify this point?

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jolla Community 
> wrote:

Dear Jolla community member,

As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for you, 
the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device Program, you will 
get access to special content and R sessions, event invitations, and the new 
Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community edition Jolla C.

Join the program now 
here.

Read more about the Program in the latest Jolla blog 
post!

On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Dylan Van Assche]

Yes, it has Android support (that's what I read under specs)

Dylan


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Local Time: May 26, 2016 12:59 PM
UTC Time: May 26, 2016 10:59 AM
From: donag...@gmail.com
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org



Will this new Jolla C have Android support included? Even if I can rely 90% on 
Sailfosh OS only, there are still a few things I need Android for (mainly a 
bank app). I can't afford a new, developer-only device: to justify the expense 
I need it to become my main, everyday phone too.
Can you please clarify this point?



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Dear Jolla community member,

As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for you, 
the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device Program, you will 
get access to special content and R sessions, event invitations, and the new 
Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community edition Jolla C.

Join the program now 
[here](http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html).

Read more about the Program in the latest [Jolla blog 
post!](https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-community-device-program/)

On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Luca Donaggio]

Will this new Jolla C have Android support included? Even if I can rely 90%
on Sailfosh OS only, there are still a few things I need Android for
(mainly a bank app). I can't afford a new, developer-only device: to
justify the expense I need it to become my main, everyday phone too.

Can you please clarify this point?

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jolla Community 
wrote:

> Dear Jolla community member,
>
> As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for
> *you*, the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device
> Program, you will get access to special content and R sessions, event
> invitations, and the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community
> edition *Jolla C*.
>
> Join the program now here
> 
> .
>
> Read more about the Program in the latest Jolla blog post!
> 
>
> On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
> James Noori
> Community Manager
>
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[SailfishDevel] [Official Announcement] Join the Sailfish Community Device Program now!

[Jolla Community]

Dear Jolla community member,

As a thank you for your loyalty, we've just announced a new program for 
*you*, the Jolla community! By joining the Sailfish Community Device 
Program, you will get access to special content and R sessions, event 
invitations, and the new Sailfish OS smartphone, the limited community 
edition /*Jolla C*/.


Join the program now here 
.


Read more about the Program in the latest Jolla blog post! 



On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
James Noori
Community Manager

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Re: [SailfishDevel] New Jolla Community Program Launching today - be prepared!

[Dylan Van Assche]

Nice!

On which website will it be available? I don't want to lose time with searching 
after the right URL.


Dylan




 Original Message 
Subject: [SailfishDevel] New Jolla Community Program Launching today - be 
prepared!
Local Time: 26 May 2016 7:02 AM
UTC Time: 26 May 2016 05:02
From: commun...@jolla.com
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org

Dear Jolla community member,

As a recipient of this email you are among the loyal members of the Sailfish 
Community, and have accompanied and supported us along the way, a million 
thanks for that!

Later today at noon Central European Summer time (1pm in Finland, 11am in the 
UK) we will announce and open a new Sailfish Community Program. It will include 
a limited edition Sailfish OS community device, among other exclusive perks. As 
this program is open to everybody, and we only can take a limited amount of 
registrants to the program, we want to alert you, our closest community members 
about it beforehand.

Contrary to a normal marketing situation, this time we strongly ask you not to 
make much public noise about this before it is launched - this could decrease 
your or your fellow community members' possibility of getting in.

So please be alert and quick today and secure your registration!

D-I-T!

On behalf of the whole Jolla team,
James Noori
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