[SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS, OSS community collab meeting, 12/dec 2019 at 09:00 UTC

[James Noori]

Hi all,

Welcome to the last IRC meeting of this year. Next one will have to be 
held in Jan 2020 as it would otherwise clash with the Christmas holidays.


Date: 12/12/2019
Time: 09:00 UTC
Duration: Approximately 50-60 minutes
Chair: abranson
Location: #mer-meeting on freenode IRC
http://webchat.freenode.net/

Topics:

- Intro (5 min)
- Introduce (some more) packaging conventions (10 min)
- Bad audio quality on Xperia X and Jolla phone (10 min)
- General discussion (20 min)
- Next meeting time & date (5 min)

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More details on the topics can be found here:
https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/

Please familiarise yourself with them before the meeting, as well
as the common Meetbot commandshttps://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot(it's
used for meeting management and logging)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
James
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Slilica.Clipboard

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16.17 Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> But since KWin is moving
> to Wayland, maybe they have found a way to circumvent that restriction,
> else one of my favorite utility apps Klipper would seize working?

But I had my hopes up too early: https://phabricator.kde.org/T4449

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Slilica.Clipboard

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 14.34 Pekka Vuorela wrote:
> > So basically the only way to monitor the clipboard is to poll it
> > regularly?
> 
> Wayland offers clipboard content only to active windows / apps, so not
> sure how feasible your intention is.

You're probably right. Even polling doesn't help. But since KWin is moving 
to Wayland, maybe they have found a way to circumvent that restriction, else 
one of my favorite utility apps Klipper would seize working?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] settings through Settings > Apps > application

[E.S. Rosenberg]

OK Thanks.
My jaw kind of hit the pavement when I read this because we are quite some
years in and it would make sense that if we are promoting a certain UX it
should apply to all applications.
I guess that is is why "setting inside your app" is not in the "common
pitfalls section".

Op wo 11 dec. 2019 om 15:25 schreef Thomas Tanghus :

> On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13.42 E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> > The question is as the title, if I want to add settings the "official"
> > SFOS way how do I do it?
> > I didn't see any examples of this in the sfos/silica documentation.
> > Thanks,
>
> Currently it's not allowed in Harbour, don't know if it'll ever be, but
> some
> apps have apparently done it e.g Depecher:
> https://github.com/blacksailer/depecher
>
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> Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
>
> Thomas Tanghus
>
> A: Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish SDK 2.4 has been released to all users

[Jarkko Lehtoranta]

Hello,



Today (Dec 11th) at 14:00 UTC we published an update to the Early Access Build 
Targets. These now match the Sailfish OS release 3.2.1.19 (Nuuksio).



More details can be found under "Update #1" headline at 
https://together.jolla.com/question/218412.

If you have any questions, feel free to either send an email to this mailing 
list: devel at lists.sailfishos.org, write it up 
in http://together.jolla.com and tag your issue 
with ‘sdk’ or send an e-mail to developer-care at jolla.com.

Happy hacking,
Jolla SDK Team

On 2 Dec 2019, at 16:16, Martin Kampas 
mailto:martin.kam...@jolla.com>> wrote:

Hello,

Today (Dec 2nd) at 14:00 UTC the Sailfish SDK 2.4 was released to all users. 
Please, check out the release notes from 
https://together.jolla.com/question/218412/.

The installers for this SDK release are now available at 
https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Application_SDK#Latest_SDK_Release. If you have an 
older release of the SDK installed, you should see an update notification in 
the Sailfish IDE.



If you have any questions, feel free to either send an email to this mailing 
list: devel at lists.sailfishos.org, write it up 
in http://together.jolla.com and tag your issue 
with ‘sdk’ or send an e-mail to developer-care at jolla.com.

Happy hacking,
Jolla SDK Team
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Slilica.Clipboard

[Pekka Vuorela]

On Wed, 2019-12-11 at 12:53 +0100, Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21.54 Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> > I was playing a bit with the Clipboard module, just to see how it
> > works,
> > 
> > So: How can it be that it's triggered by Sailfish Connect and not
> > any
> > other apps?
> 
> Answering myself: The onTextChanged is only triggered when the app is
> in the 
> foreground, which in itself makes it impossible on a phone. Sailfish
> Connect 
> listens for network packages and injects into the clipboard, but the
> event 
> is only triggered when the app is in the foreground.
> 
> So basically the only way to monitor the clipboard is to poll it
> regularly?

Wayland offers clipboard content only to active windows / apps, so not
sure how feasible your intention is.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] settings through Settings > Apps > application

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 13.42 E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> The question is as the title, if I want to add settings the "official"
> SFOS way how do I do it?
> I didn't see any examples of this in the sfos/silica documentation.
> Thanks,

Currently it's not allowed in Harbour, don't know if it'll ever be, but some 
apps have apparently done it e.g Depecher: 
https://github.com/blacksailer/depecher

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Re: [SailfishDevel] settings through Settings > Apps > application

[Pekka Vuorela]

On Wed, 2019-12-11 at 14:42 +0200, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> Hi all,
> The question is as the title, if I want to add settings the
> "official" SFOS way how do I do it?
> I didn't see any examples of this in the sfos/silica documentation.

Sorry, but officially you cannot at the moment.

Unofficially there's /usr/share/jolla-settings/entries/ dir including
.json files for defining the settings hierachy, pointing to some qml
file to use for each entry. 

Not public / harbour allowed because it would allow too much
permissions for third party apps, and we haven't gotten around to
implement more secure alternatives, e.g. more restricted declarative
page file format or process isolation for different qml pages.


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[SailfishDevel] settings through Settings > Apps > application

[E.S. Rosenberg]

Hi all,
The question is as the title, if I want to add settings the "official" SFOS
way how do I do it?
I didn't see any examples of this in the sfos/silica documentation.
Thanks,
Eli
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Slilica.Clipboard

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 12.53 Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> My idea was to make an app like the Plasma Klipper app

And apparently I'm not the only one:
https://together.jolla.com/question/50637/clipboard-paste-ring/

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Slilica.Clipboard

[Thomas Tanghus]

On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 21.54 Thomas Tanghus wrote:
> I was playing a bit with the Clipboard module, just to see how it works,
> 
> So: How can it be that it's triggered by Sailfish Connect and not any
> other apps?

Answering myself: The onTextChanged is only triggered when the app is in the 
foreground, which in itself makes it impossible on a phone. Sailfish Connect 
listens for network packages and injects into the clipboard, but the event 
is only triggered when the app is in the foreground.

So basically the only way to monitor the clipboard is to poll it regularly?

I'm guessing this is old news for most; I just haven't tried to use it 
before now :)

My idea was to make an app like the Plasma Klipper app, which I use all the 
time:
https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kde-workspace/klipper/index.html

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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to make a theme related icon

[Lukáš Karas]

Same approach, different code... I am using solution from Kimmo for doing 
that:

https://together.jolla.com/question/44325/iconbutton-how-to-use-own-icons-with-highlight/

Dne úterý 10. prosince 2019 18:24:40 CET Slava Monich napsal(a):
> I use this image provider in my Jolla store apps to colorize grayscale
> svgs according to the theme:
> 
> https://github.com/monich/harbour-lib/blob/master/src/HarbourImageProvider.c
> pp
> 
> Sample usage:
> 
> https://github.com/monich/harbour-matkakortti/blob/master/qml/MainPage.qml#L
> 11
> 
> and registration:
> 
> https://github.com/monich/harbour-matkakortti/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L117
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Slava
> 
> > On light theme, icons is like image.png
> > 
> > On sailfish3 theme, icons is like image.png
> > 
> > What's the magic? I made an icon, it's not work on light theme as expect.

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