Re: [SailfishDevel] 回复：Devel Digest, Vol 72, Issue 15

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 19:39 +0800, 不瘦十斤不改名字 wrote:
> 
> 能回复我一下吗

For pete's sake learn to quote the stuff you need and not the whole
digest!

Also, try and post in English.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Locale Settings Incorrect?

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 2 May 2018 07:10:58 +
Martin Kampas  wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> Your host machine environment is not transferred to the emulator.
> Curently there is no UI to set the locale in emulator currently. It
> is a planned feature. Meanwhile you can hack it by setting the LANG
> variable e.g. in /var/lib/environment/nemo/locale.conf.
> 
> BR,
> Martin

Thanks. Sorted.

I'll have to try and remember that when the next update is rolled out.

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[SailfishDevel] Locale Settings Incorrect?

[Chris Walker]

I've checked the settings on my host machine and it reports
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.UTF-8" as I might reasonably expect. I am in
the UK after all. So why, when I ask for the locale in QML in the
Emulator does it report en_us?

Is there a setting somewhere in VBox that sets this? I've looked but
can't find anything.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish X does not pair with HFT/HSP systems (Former: [Reminder] Sailfish OS, Open source community collaboration meeting on November 15th 2017 at 09:00 UTC)

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 22:14:27 +0100
deloptes  wrote:

> Chris Walker wrote:
> 
> > Have you specified any connection settings for the car? On my Jolla
> > 1, I used to have mine specified as car kit and calls to the phone
> > would work and it would stay connected. Despite specifying 'Car
> > Kit' on my X, it connects but drops the connection after a couple
> > of minutes.
> > 
> > Hopefully there will be a permanent fix soon from the Sailors for
> > these and other problems.  
> 
> Hi,
> What do you mean by specify "Car Kit"? Where?

Settings -> Bluetooth -> Paired Devices -> press down on the device
you're interested in -> show device settings.

> Please explain what you both see on your devices and perhaps what
> audio systems you have in your cars.

I've specified both Car Kit and Multimedia at various times to
overcome the timeout (see above). The audio system in my car (2011
Citroen C5) is a Philips system.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish X does not pair with HFT/HSP systems (Former: [Reminder] Sailfish OS, Open source community collaboration meeting on November 15th 2017 at 09:00 UTC)

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:20:01 +
Adam Pigg  wrote:

> I think that config file is for android bluedroid, not for bluez, so
> wouldnt help.
> 
> I have some other issues
> 
> It seems _sometimes_ calls work to my car, sometimes not ...there is
> just no audio ... could that be the issue of not connecting to the
> correct profile?

Have you specified any connection settings for the car? On my Jolla 1,
I used to have mine specified as car kit and calls to the phone would
work and it would stay connected. Despite specifying 'Car Kit' on my X,
it connects but drops the connection after a couple of minutes.

Hopefully there will be a permanent fix soon from the Sailors for these
and other problems.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Change of positioning in QML

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:12:15 +0200
Christophe Chapuis  wrote:

> I don't know the Silica APIs well, but I think you may want to use the
> Theme.pixelRatio here, to have a device-independant width for you
> image.
> 
> More here:
> https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/sailfish-application-scalability.html/

Many thanks for that. I've updated the code and the page now looks
normal again. I've also updated the cover graphic in the same way and
that looks fine as well.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Change of positioning in QML

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 14:11:47 +0200
Christophe Chapuis  wrote:

> You have "width: beerglass.width * 2" which is a width in pixel. But
> Xperia has probably higher DPI, so the width isn't sufficient now.
> You'll have to specify more precisely which width you want here, or
> just let QML Label do the job for you.

OK. Thanks for that.

I'll have to take a look at the coding on the cover page too then as
that icon is quite small. Or is the preferred method to have a scalable
SVG file there? I notice that in a new project there is this line :-
SAILFISHAPP_ICONS = 86x86 108x108 128x128 256x256

Is the project expecting an icon for each of those sizes or if I
produce an icon for 86x86 and 256x256, will the intermediary sizes be
auto generated when the app runs, assuming that a device needs those
intermediary sizes?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Change of positioning in QML

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:06:29 +0200
"J. Pablo"  wrote:

> Hello Chris,
> 
> I didn't build your app or anything, but the code looks just great.
> Could you provide some link with an screenshot? What are the elements
> you are seeing moved? That could also help to sort this out.

Link to a couple of screenshots as requested. I think the problem will
be obvious :-)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/juczqr1u7qhq39a/20171015104517.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s0aor9wz2cvyq6n/20171015105506.png?dl=0

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[SailfishDevel] Change of positioning in QML

[Chris Walker]

I have now added one of my own apps to my new Xperia and I've noticed
that the positioning of the items on a QML page has changed. Some of
them are being overwritten.

Is this down to some change within the latest OS on Xperia (my original
Jolla phone is running 2.1.2.3) or my coding?

The code is here -
https://github.com/tonercloud/beertent/blob/master/qml/pages/BeerListPage.qml

I could attach a couple of screenshots and will do so if asked but
thought it wise not to clutter up people's inboxes.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] CLI update

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:51:09 +0300
"E.S. Rosenberg"  wrote:

> Anyone?

Does this help?
https://together.jolla.com/question/150635/sailfish-update-to-v-20414-failed-resolved/

> 2017-04-12 0:10 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg <
> es.rosenberg+sailfishos@gmail.com>:  
> 
> > Can I somehow run the update process from CLI?
> > Currently my Jolla (1) is running 2.1.0.9 and every time I try to
> > update through the GUI I get "Could not determine the size of the
> > update".
> >
> > Non-standard things about my phone:
> > - Using 32G SD card formatted with btrfs mounted for android and
> > sdcard.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eli
> >  



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Re: [SailfishDevel] App doenst launch in intex aqua fish

[Chris Walker]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:03:41 + (UTC)
joao morgado  wrote:

> Hi sailors
> My intex aqua fish arrived  few days a go, so it's coding time :)
> I activated the developer mode, installed latest Sailfish sdk,
> sucessfully connected the device by wifi / ssh and deployed a
> template QtCreator Sailfish OS Qtquick application. The template app
> runs fine on the emulator, but on the intex it faills at launch
> without any error, I only get an "Application finished with exit code
> 0." in qtcreator output window. I didnt change any code yet, so its
> not a bug related with code. When tapping the app icon on the device,
> the app tries to load during a few seconds, but then it fails. I also
> experienced some computer crashs during build. I'm runing a core i7
> laptop with nvidia 840m, with latest mint cinamon 64bits. So I stuck
> at the very begginig, any suggestions on what to do ?

As you can SSH into the device, can you not start the application from
the command line and see what the app returns by way of failure mode?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Connect to 2 databases

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:40:50 +0200
Matthias Fehring  wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2016, 14:40:16 CEST schrieb Chris Walker:
> > Can anybody point me in the direction of some C++ code to connect to
> > two SQL databases please?  
> 
> Does it have to be pure C++ code? If not and if it can be the Qt way,
> read on. :)
> 
> > I want to have one set as read-only and the other as read-write.
> > 
> > Whatever I'm doing is wrong as I always end up with a default
> > connection.  
> 
> Have a look at QSqlDatabase and it's addDatabase() method. [1]

Thank you Matthias for the examples. I'll take a look.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Connect to 2 databases

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 23:34:18 +0300
"E.S. Rosenberg"  wrote:

> Assuming you need SQLite since you are developing for SailfishOS the
> first result here seems to be what you are looking for:
> https://www.google.nl/search?q=c%2B%2B+sqlite
> 
> Instead of creating one SQLite object you create 2 or more, one for
> each database though if you are opening a lot of databases you
> might want to consider if they shouldn't all be different tables in
> the same database.

I can't add the tables to the first database as I want to use that 'as
is' and hence read only.

> Of course you could also be more forthcoming about what exact db
> you're trying to connect to and what you tried so that we don't do
> double work for you, I believe as a community we need to be helpful
> etc. but as a member looking for help I also need to do my due
> diligence, without that expect short basic answers or none...

As a beer drinker, I am a member of CAMRA - http://www.camra.org.uk/

They have an app for iOS and Android and while I do have the Android
app on my phone I think it's awful. So I'm trying to write an app to
use the CAMRA database which happens to be a sqlite file. CAMRA update
the app and data annually and I want to be able to simply overwrite the
existing database with the new one each year but retain my own database
for noting things like which beers I've drunk.

I've checked with the company that wrote the app for CAMRA and they say
that they try to maintain the same database structure and numbering
each year but it falls to CAMRA to maintain the numbering as they
supply the data to the app company. I'm assuming (perhaps naively) that
it will remain constant.

I might also have another app for noting which pubs I've visited as
CAMRA list pub data in the same sqlite database.

> The general idea should be along these lines:
> 
> sqlite3 *db1, *db2;
> sqlite_open(path1, &db1);
> sqlite_open(path2, &db2);
> 
> Regards,
> Eli

Thanks very much. That gives me something to work with.

I apologise if my first reply was a bit terse. That wasn't my intention.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Connect to 2 databases

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 00:19:02 +0300
"E.S. Rosenberg"  wrote:

> 2 different connection objects?
> 
> 2016-09-08 16:40 GMT+03:00 Chris Walker <
> cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk>:
> 
> > Can anybody point me in the direction of some C++ code to connect to
> > two SQL databases please?

I'd like to point out the wording of my question? I said ".. point me in
the direction of some code". So can anybody help with that please?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] CalDAV/CardDAV Contributor Meeting

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 01:55:46 +
Chris Adams  wrote:

> If you cannot make it, don't worry, I will attach minutes from the
> meeting to the wiki page :-)

Can you also publish here a link to the updates following meetings?
That way, even those of us who don't/can't attend meetings will still
be aware of progress.
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[SailfishDevel] Connect to 2 databases

[Chris Walker]

Can anybody point me in the direction of some C++ code to connect to
two SQL databases please?

I want to have one set as read-only and the other as read-write.

Whatever I'm doing is wrong as I always end up with a default
connection.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SSH on OSX

[Chris Walker]

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:00:52 +0100
Krisztian Olah  wrote:

> Hello guys,
>I just got a new macbook and I am not familiar with OSX, could
> anyone please point me to an up to date guide on how to set up usb
> networking on OSX, I'm using El Capitan. I did try to search, but
> came up short. Thanks in advance

This blog post is a bit old by now but it might help -
http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/connecting-to-jolla-via-ssh-over-usb.html
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:39:41 +0200
Harald Schmitt  wrote:

> >> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
> >>  
> >>> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC
> >>> instead of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html  
> >> It isn't consistent at all!
> >>
> >> The email to me was timed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> >> James Noori  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm mightily pissed off about this.

> I recommend you link to timeanddate.com it is a nice tool.
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160614T13&p1=101

I think you're all missing the point. Yes I screwed up by mis-reading
the time BUT, I got an email at 12 o'clock UK time saying that the
devices were now available when plainly they weren't. They had all been
sold by then. So I claim the email mis-represented the state of the
store. Hence why I was pissed off.

I can't change things now but it sure leaves a bad taste.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
Claudio Campeggi  wrote:

> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> 
> 
> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> 
> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html

It isn't consistent at all!

The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
> 
> We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
> 
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
> 
> JOIN NOW 
> 
>  

Sold out by 12:10?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Maps and Goodbye (for now)

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 12:52:57 +
Mike Gabriel  wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> On  Mi 23 Dez 2015 16:51:04 CET, David van rijn wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sadly, i broke my phone, and i don't have money for a new one. So i
> > will not be developing for a while. This does make me sad, but I
[snip]
> > David
> 
> Do I get you right that your only blocker for continuing with  
> development for SailfishOS is not having a phone at hand anymore?
> 
> If that is so, please get in touch with Jolla and order a new phone.
> I will sponsor that.

There are more important things than money in my life so I'll chip in
some euros too.

> Please also send me a list of Jolla projects you have been working
> on in the past and let me know what your plans for other
> Jolla-related development projects are.
> 
> light+love
> Mike (Debian Developer and Jolla fan)

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Re: [SailfishDevel] planning for next SailfishOS community meeting 5.11

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:33:54 +0300
Carol Chen  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We haven't had new topic proposals since the last meeting, plus due
> to some internal schedule considerations, we will have the next
> meeting on 2015-11-05 @ 14:30 UTC (note the upcoming summertime/DST
> changes which may affect your local time of the meeting)

I'll bet there will be fireworks!

Sorry. Couldn't resist ;-)

That may well mean nothing to those that aren't of UK origin but
perhaps this will help - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night
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Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK version 1.1.9 is released

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 11:57:03 +
Martin Kampas  wrote:

> Hello again,
> 
> Today (September 24th) at 11:00 UTC we have published new installers
> and repositories of the Sailfish OS SDK. This SDK release is called
> the 1509 and it matches the Jolla Release 1.1.9.

[snip]

> - For more information, please see the SDK Beta-Qt5 known issues list 
> at:
> https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/sdk-beta-qt5-known-issues/.

I checked the known-issues list and this one wasn't there.

One issue I've discovered is that when looking at the Components app in
the Emulator, and following the selection to Dialogs -> Time Selection,
I no longer have a round clock but a purple square one. Is this
intentional or an infelicity? (64-bit Mageia linux and VBox v5).

I have to say that I'm not in favour of the removal of the smooth glide
such as when deleting something. I much prefer the glide to the 1
second jumps now apparent. I'd like to know the thinking behind that
one.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] sdk

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 22:58:06 +0200
Daniele  wrote:

> Hi, 
> emulator doesn’t start with Beta Qt5 Sailfish OS SDK 1507. I use  Mac
> Os X 10.10.5. I tried to create a new project but run button is
> disabled I tried with:
> VirtualBox-4.3.28-100309-OSX
> VirtualBox-4.1.40-101594-OSX  
> VirtualBox-5.0.2-102096-OSX
> VirtualBox-4.3.30-101610-OSX
> 
> I downgrade to SailfishOSSDK-Beta-1506-Qt5 with VirtualBox-4.3.28 and
> all is OK

On August 29th, Martin Grimme wrote :-
-

This happens when you launch Qt Creator from the dock, and not from
terminal. In this case, /usr/local/bin is not in the PATH, and the
VBoxManage binary cannot be found.
To fix it, create a symlink as root in /usr/bin that points to
/usr/local/bin/VBoxManage.

# cd /usr/bin
# sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/VBoxManage

Apparently the VirtualBox tools have moved to /usr/local/bin recently.


Hope this helps some people who are experiencing the same problem,
Martin


Does that help?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 07:23:37 -0400
Bob Summerwill  wrote:

> Well said, Chris!
> 
> Like everybody else British of a certain age, I cut my teeth on a BBC
> Model B.  A close friend of mine got the very expensive Archimedes (
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Archimedes) which was the first
> ever ARM computer, but that was always well out of reach financially
> for me. It is amazing how from that niche British educational market,
> the ARM design now dominates the world, and has given the mighty
> Intel a complete beating.

I too had a BBC Micro, an Archimedes, a Risc PC and even an Iyonix for
a short while.

The big thing about Acorn is that they designed both the hardware and
the software, much like Apple and of course, partly like Jolla. That's
the reason I support them.

Intel even built an ARM CPU for the Risc PC. It was a 200MHz device,
called a StrongARM and superceded the ARM3 device my machine had in it,
itself an upgrade from the 33MHz ARM3 device which in turn had been an
upgrade from the ARM2 it originally shipped with. But Intel gave up the
design. The ARM design has improved considerably since.

Much like you've suggested the Youtube video, I would suggest RPCEmu ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How do you evaluate the recent events of jolla

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 00:28:06 +0200
Peter  wrote:

> I do not see the benefit of Sailfish without the Jolla Phone. I
> rather buy the Fair Phone next then this Indian vendor thingy.
> I am still waiting that Jolla offers something in their shop for the 
> other half.
> Sounds stupid, but I want to support Jolla. And I buy at a Jolla
> shop. Not somewhere else ...
> 
> But now I think the Phone is dead. Sad but true. So maybe I start 
> spending my money at the third party store.
> Wasted opportunities. Why do Companies always try to make their 
> desicions without their buyers they already have.
> 
> So in the end. I agree with you Ville Määttä. This seperation Idea is
> a dumb Idea, from my point of view.
> Limitation of possibilities. Maybe the Indian Company requested the 
> seperation?

I think you're both overlooking history.

In the past there was a British computer company called Acorn. They
made the BBC Micro in the 80's. They also started Acorn Risc Machines.
They spun it off as a separate company as they realised the company
would be more profitable if it were a separate entity. They also
changed the name to Advanced Risc Machines. That company today is ARM,
is profitable and is a multi-billion dollar company while Acorn is no
more.

The reason they changed the name is that they knew that more companies
would buy their software designs if it weren't tied to a hardware
company.

So while the phone hardware side *may* die - I hope it doesn't - I see
a strong future for the software side.

As for targeting the BRICS countries, that seems a sensible choice. Why
battle against Android in their own backyard? Americans seem keener on
something that was invented there.
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[SailfishDevel] More SDK Warnings

[Chris Walker]

In one of the recent SDK updates I noticed that I started to see
warnings like these :-

[W] DeclarativeImageProvider::DeclarativeImageProvider:89 - No pixel
ratio defined. Check your device configuration!
[W] DeclarativeImageProvider::DeclarativeImageProvider:94 - Defaulting
to pixel ratio 1.0
[W] DeclarativeWindow::DeclarativeWindow:82 - No default allowed
orientations defined. Check your device configuration!
[W] Silica::ThemePrivate::ThemePrivate:211 - No pixel ratio defined.
Check your device configuration!
[W] Silica::ThemePrivate::ThemePrivate:216 - Defaulting to pixel ratio
1.0 

I'm assuming that things like pixel ratio will disappear with Sailfish
2.0 for the tablet but in the meantime, is there a way to add some code
so that these warnings are not generated?

I had in mind something along the lines of the qml that Coderus
provided a few months ago.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] compile error

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:38:35 +0200
Rudi Timmermans  wrote:

> Ok thanks!
> 
> Can you explane me what the settings are when i add a Jolla Phone
> please ? Thanks! ---

Enable Developer mode on the phone and nake a note of the IP address if
you want to use wifi.

Go to Qt Creator and under Devices, Add one. I called mine 'Jolla
Phone'.

Enter the device IP and with a user of nemo, try connecting using the
Developer Password you set earlier when you enabled Developer Mode on
the phone.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] compile error

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:08:28 +0200
Rudi Timmermans  wrote:

> Hi Jussi,
> 
> I try to send screenshot again. But i have attach it now.

Rudi,

Can I suggest you take a look at the screenshot you sent. Look at the
error message at the top. You're trying to send the wrong architecture
to the device. Could it be that your settings are screwed for *both*
architectures?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] What's the correct way to do this?

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:53:22 +
Krisztian Olah  wrote:

> It looks like the object carDetails does not exist in the scope
> you're trying to access it. What scope is your carDetails object in?
> If you could briefly describe in which file each relevant
> function/object  reside, would be helpful. 

I've just pushed the code to github. So would that be better than me
trying to explain it?

It's here :-
https://github.com/tonercloud/fuelpad
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[SailfishDevel] What's the correct way to do this?

[Chris Walker]

Perhaps somebody can either help me with this one or point me to some
docs that tell me the correct way to do it.

I want to pass several bits of information to another qml page. I've
looked at the various pages and they only tell me how to pass variables
not how to set them up in the first place which is where I'm struggling.

My qml (at the end of a label) looks like this :-
onClicked: console.log("Clicked " + mark + " " + model + " " + register)
   // + { passcarDetails(model);

The console shows that the three pieces of information are being
selected and part of my function looks like this :-
function passcarDetails(carDetails)
{
console.log("about to push to CarRecordPage, for car - id: " +
 carDetails.id + ", register: " +
 carDetails.register)

It's failing at that point as the console says :-
passcarDetails:40 - about to push to CarRecordPage, for car - id:
undefined, register: undefined

So where am I going wrong, and more importantly, what can I do about it?

Any help appreciated.
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[SailfishDevel] Passing parameters back?

[Chris Walker]

Hopefully somebody can help me with this problem.

In my app, I'm using this approach to set up and use various models :-
https://wiki.qt.io/How_to_Use_a_QSqlQueryModel_in_QML

I have a list of breweries in the first page and when one is selected,
I pass a parameter to the second page like this :-
onClicked:
pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("BreweryDetailsPage.qml"), { model:
locid });

But I want my sql statement to only pick out the details for 'locid'
and therefore I need to pass that back to the main cpp file which is
set like this :-
view->rootContext()->setContextProperty("breweryInfomodel",
breweryInfomodel);

Note that I have yet to add the code to pass in the locid argument!

Is such a thing possible (my main reason for doing it this way is that I
would like to keep all the relevant code in the same place) or is the
only way to filter the full list of 'locid's in the
BreweryDetailsPage.qml ?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] How to change Virtual box's screen orientation

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 19:08:42 +0800
itviewer  wrote:

> Hi，
> I have tried build nemo for VirtualBox，and now it can start into
> glacier ui. In the kickstart file（.ks）,the bootloader option is ：
> bootloader --timeout=20 --append="vga=0x343
> vt.global_cursor_default=0" --location=mbr so，the screen mode is
> 800*600*32.
> 
> I tried to set vga=ask，then boot it，but all options for select
> do not include 600*800（width*height mode？） I don't familiar with
> Virtual box and Linux kernel，the question is how to change the
> screen orientation,rotate 90 degrees to 600*800？ Thanks every friend.

Under ~//SailfishOS/emulator/SailfishOS Emulator/ there is an
XML file SailfishOS Emulator.vbox.

The resolution for the Emulator is shown there as :-


But there is a comment at the top of the file which says :-
** DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE.
** If you make changes to this file while any VirtualBox related
application ** is running, your changes will be overwritten later,
without taking effect. ** Use VBoxManage or the VirtualBox Manager GUI
to make changes.

So have you tried VBoxManage to check/change the resolution?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Update previous page

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:16:53 +0500
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> No, you wrong. In your link read " Connecting Signals to Methods and 
> Signals".
> 
> 17.03.2015 19:11, Florian Desneux пишет:
> > Great news: I succeed it :) Thanks Andrey!
> >
> > Side note: dialog.readPropertyChanged should be 
> > dialog.*_on_*ReadPropertyChanged (see 
> > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-syntax-signals.html) for people who
> > want to achieve this in the future.

Can I make a request? How about one of you clever people writing a full
tutorial online to which people like me that don't fully grasp things
like models and signals can ask questions?

For example, I want to write a beer app (I have one which works but
isn't comprehensive enough) which takes a supplied database (it comes
from a UK organisation called CAMRA) and have my own database record
things like 'Yes, I've drunk that beer' and in a separate app (the
CAMRA app which runs on Android but is hideous, records all those things
within one app) record the pub in which I drank that beer.

The problems for me are 1) I need to attach models to lots of the
tables in the CAMRA database file and I struggle with models, and 2) I
cannot make the app connect to two databases. In doing item 1, I would
also want the app to update a previous page, much as Florian does.

Of course if that same clever person were to offer to write the whole
thing for me I wouldn't say no :-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] App won't start

[Chris Walker]

On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 23:33:06 +0200
Peter Pykäläinen  wrote:

> Well that did it, thank you.
> 
> 
> // Peter Pykäläinen
> 
> On 14 March 2015 at 22:55, Peter Pykäläinen
>  wrote:
> 
> > How do I do that?
> > Could you please send me the command?

If somebody in the future searches this thread because they have a
similar problem, it might have been helpful if the lipstick command had
appeared here too.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] trouble with SailfishOS SDK on Linux

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 19:16:19 +
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I have Installed the binary package from the offical side. 
> (http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/installers/1502/SailfishOSSDK-Beta-1502-Qt5-linux-64-offline.run)
> In addition I have installed virtualbox and loaded the kernel
> modules via the distribution (Arch Linux) tool chain.
> 
> when I start virtualbox I get the message:
> 
>   VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain:
> dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed:
> libQtCore.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory

I see that you're running a 64bit OS (you downloaded a 64 bit
installer of the SDK). So am I and on my machine /usr/lib/virtualbox is
empty so have you by any chance installed the 32 bit version of
VirtualBox?

> If I start the SDK I get error messages that files are missing:
> 
> /home/XXX/SailfishOS/lib/qtcreator/plugins/MerProject/libMer.so: by 
> libxslt.so.1
> 
> /home/legine/SailfishOS/lib/qtcreator/plugins/QtProject/libHelp.so
> 
> I would expect that those files get delivered by the installer. Any 
> insight what might had happend?
> The Installer did say installation was a success ;)
> 
> Anyone else having these problems?

Nope. Both of the shared object files are installed here.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Unknown Component

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:45:55 +0100
Luca Donaggio  wrote:

> Yeah, Coderus did an amazing job with the missing qmltypes, but
> question from Chris is still valid: since it's an annoyance (I'm not
> daring to call it a bug :) ) which has always been there since the
> begininnig and a solution has already been provided (by Coderus) it
> shouldn't be so hard to fix it!
> 
> Maybe it will come with the next SDK release (the one with update11
> targets) ?

Sadly it didn't.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Unknown Component

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:24:31 +0500
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> And you have CoverAction in your 
> SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/lib/qt5/qml/Sailfish/Silica/plugins.qmltypes,
>  

Yes I do.

> restarted qtc after doint copying,

Yes I did.

> you selected arm kit

No because I want this to be available when using the emulator

> and highlight with autocompletion still not working?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Unknown Component

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:18:38 +0500
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> This is impossible :)
> https://github.com/CODeRUS/better-sailfishos-qmltypes/blob/Sdk1412/Sailfish/Silica/plugins.qmltypes#L103

I'm happy to believe the evidence of my own eyes which clearly show two
red lines.

I didn't extract the data from within the
better-sailfish-qmltypes-Sdk1412 folder at first but even having done
so, it didn't make any difference.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Unknown Component

[Chris Walker]

On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 14:21:29 +
Michael Neufing  wrote:

> Installation of missing QML types should resolve the problem.
> Coderus provided them on GitHub:  
> https://github.com/CODeRUS/better-sailfishos-qmltypes
> 
> Additionally it also provides code completion for other missing
> types like the Theme-type.
> 
> Installation instructions are available in the readme.

I have now copied those files to the appropriate location but
'CoverAction' and 'CoverActionList' are still shown underlined in red
here.
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[SailfishDevel] Unknown Component

[Chris Walker]

If I run the 'Run checks' command from the Tools->QML/JS option in
Creator, I get the error message 'error: Unknown component. (M300).

This is for the error against CoverActionList in Cover Page and
similarly for CoverAction.

While I realise that this isn't a huge problem, it can be
distracting when scanning code for errors. This has been there since the
year dot. Any chance of fixing it?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Error starting VM

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:16:53 +0100
k...@foder.dk wrote:

> > This application failed to start because it could not find or load
> > the Qt platform plugin "xcb".
> 
> I had this problem too, I think I had to disable something on the SDK
> in VirtualBox, I'm not sure but I think it was VT-x/AMD-V under
> system / acceleration.

Thanks.

I've unticked that in the Emulator and that now runs.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Error starting VM

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:42:25 +
Cathal Garvey  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'd like to get started playing with SFOS SDK with a view to getting
> a phone and developing for Glacier and Sailfish. I wanted to play a
> bit with the VM that comes with the SDK, but am getting bugs..
> 
> So, I clicked the start-emulator button in the QTCreator SDK, and I
> get the following startup messages, then it freezes and goes no
> further (as in, black screen with white monospace font saying the
> below):
> 
> [0.00] tsc: Fast TSC calibration failed
> systemd-fsck[62]: system: clean, 23245/262144 files, 244244/1048575
> blocks [   12.297269] piix4_smbus :00:07.0: SMBus base address 
> uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr
> 
> I could just try what's suggested and add the force_addr boot option 
> (where?) but isn't this supposed to just work?
> 
> I'm using virtualbox 4.3.22 as installed from virtualbox.org "generic 
> linux 64 bit" on Linux Mint Debian Edition 64 bit; loosely Debian
> Jesse but about a year out of date (thanks Linux Mint..).
> 
> Any help in getting this booting to a home screen appreciated, would 
> love to play with this and see about developing some simple demo apps.

I'm getting the same error although both the emulator and build machine
are shown to be running by the icons at the bottom left of Creator.

If I persevere, then I get this error from Creator in 'Application
Output' :-

QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment.
This application failed to start because it could not find or load the
Qt platform plugin "xcb".

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, minimal, wayland-egl, wayland.

Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
bash: line 1:   774 Aborted DISPLAY=:0.0
QT_NO_JOURNALD_LOG=1 /opt/sdk/harbour-beertent/usr/bin/harbour-beertent
Application finished with exit code 134.


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[SailfishDevel] Where is this folder?

[Chris Walker]

Hello,

I'm getting an error in the Compile Output window of Creator. It says
this :-
/home/mersdk/share/Sailfish_Git_Projects/CDW_Versions/harbour-beerguide/qml/pages/
Removed_from_BreweryListPage.qml:34:1: error: Unexpected token `}'
}

But there is no /home/mersdk either on the host machine or in the
emulator or build machine.

Moreover, line 34 of BreweryListPage.qml is a comment and all the
brackets in the qml file appear to be matched. So where is this file
that holds this wretched error?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 10:26:43 +
Chris Walker  wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:53:28 +
> Chris Walker  wrote:
> 
> [snip> 
> > So rather than me tinkering and *possibly* managing to fix this
> > thing, what is the *correct* way to do it?
> 
> As I need to press on, and in the absence of any replies, I've set
> this :-
> VBoxManage guestproperty set "SailfishOS Emulator"
> "/VirtualBox/GuestAdd/VBoxService/--timesync-interval" 50
> 
> I tried with a value of 10 but that produced an error in the emulator
> to say the value was too low and that 50 was the minimum.
> 
> I can now compile again.

I should also have said that despite the fact that I can now compile
again, the message about clock skew and the time of the makefile is
still there. But now I can at least progress without the compilation
stopping at the point of transfer.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:53:28 +
Chris Walker  wrote:

[snip> 
> So rather than me tinkering and *possibly* managing to fix this thing,
> what is the *correct* way to do it?

As I need to press on, and in the absence of any replies, I've set
this :-
VBoxManage guestproperty set "SailfishOS Emulator"
"/VirtualBox/GuestAdd/VBoxService/--timesync-interval" 50

I tried with a value of 10 but that produced an error in the emulator
to say the value was too low and that 50 was the minimum.

I can now compile again.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:22:39 +0100
David Greaves  wrote:

> On 14/04/14 14:49, Chris Walker wrote:
[snip]
> > Physician heal thyself!
> > 
> > I installed the ntp client and it now picks up network time. I'm
> > assuming therefore that there is some time 'slip' between the host
> > machine and VBox.
> 
> This works but is suboptimal.
> 
> Make sure
>   /usr/bin/VBoxService -f
> is running in the guest; it manages time sync.
> 
> Also https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html
> 
> Finally check your host is running the correct services and has all
> the right modules built.
> 
> David

I've just done the latest SDK update and this problem has resurfaced.

David suggested that I check the service is running in the guest.
Having just installed them, surely they should be running by default,
shouldn't they?

Note that I haven't reinstalled the ntp client on the guest machines,
they're still as installed.

If I run the VBoxService command I get this error which explains the
cause of the problem :-
 /usr/bin/VBoxService -f
VBoxService 4.2.12_OSE r84980 (verbosity: 0) linux.x86 (Dec 10 2014
20:45:30) release log 00:00:00.000146 main Log opened
2015-01-06T16:49:56.390798000Z 00:00:00.000299 main OS Product:
Linux 00:00:00.000350 main OS Release: 3.6.11-10.1.7.jolla
00:00:00.000391 main OS Version: #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 19:12:11
UTC 2014 00:00:00.000421 main OS Service Pack: #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed
Dec 10 19:12:11 UTC 2014 00:00:00.000450 main
Executable: /usr/bin/VBoxService 00:00:00.000452 main Process ID:
984 00:00:00.000452 main Package type: LINUX_32BITS_GENERIC (OSE)
00:00:00.003991 main 4.2.12_OSE r84980 started. Verbose level = 0
00:00:00.004647 main Service 'memballoon' was disabled because of
missing functionality 00:00:00.005169 timesync Error:
VBoxServiceTimeSyncSet: RTTimeSet(1 420 562 998 673 016 000 ns) failed:
VERR_ACCESS_DENIED 00:00:10.005461 timesync Error:
VBoxServiceTimeSyncSet: RTTimeSet(1 420 563 008 668 012 000 ns) failed:
VERR_ACCESS_DENIED 00:00:20.005630 timesync Error:
VBoxServiceTimeSyncSet: RTTimeSet(1 420 563 018 663 012 000 ns) failed:
VERR_ACCESS_DENIED

At the time I captured this error, Qt Creator wasn't running, only the
emulator and build machine.

So rather than me tinkering and *possibly* managing to fix this thing,
what is the *correct* way to do it?
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[SailfishDevel] Import paths

[Chris Walker]

In this document -
https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp/blob/master/docs/documentation.mdown
it says 'ToDo: Describe where to install private QML imports, how to
import them in QML code, how libsailfishapp sets the import path and
the naming requirements for Harbour QA.'

Is there any such documentation or can anybody here point me to some
docs describing the import? I'm struggling to make an import path work.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:38:52 +0100
Chris Walker  wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:14:34 +0200 (CEST)
> sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote:
> 
> > Hello, looking a bit at your code, you are using a pagestack.push,
> > meaning that you effectively adds another page to your pagestack.
> > 
> > For adding a new beer, I think that the best would be using a Dialog
> > component.
> 
> Ok. I'll take a look at how I might do that.

I've finally tried adding a Dialog component but it's not working i.e.
it's not opening a new page but the worst bit is that Creator is not
telling me what's wrong i.e. it isn't reporting any errors.

Here are (what I think) the relevant parts of the code :-

Page {
id: brewerylistpage
...
PullDownMenu {
MenuItem {
text: qsTr("About");
onClicked: {
pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("About.qml"))
}
}
MenuItem {
text: "Add Brewery"
onClicked:

Qt.createComponent("AddBreweryPage.qml").createObject(brewerylistpage,
{});

The AddBreweryPage has already been defined and works but leads to page
navigation problems as discussed above.

In an effort to resolve my problem, I've been looking at this page -
http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/26455 but it hasn't helped me
fix it.

So where have I gone wrong?

For reference, I haven't uploaded any of this modified code to git.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Key Public Key Deployment - Connection Refused

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:26:46 +0200
Andreas Heil  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I try to deploy an application to a Jolla device. 
> 
> I followed the steps given in
> https://sailfishos.org/develop-firstapp-article.html. 
> 
> Developer mode on the phone is active, a password is set.  I tried
> both, the wireless IP as well as the USB connection (even connecting
> while using  the developer mode in the settings). The device can be
> pinged, however, hitting the "Test Connection" button on the "Key
> Public Key Deployment" dialog in Qt creator tells me "connection
> refused". SSH connection from a shell is refused as well.
> 
> Any hints which direction to go? Changing settings on the device or
> is this simply not yet available in the SDK? 

I used this yesterday so yes, it does work. But, it didn't work this
time around having previously worked.

To make it work this time, I first attacked my router so that the Jolla
device is always given the same WLAN IP address. I then deleted the
previous device in Qt Creator. I created a new one using the fixed IP
address as defined in the router tables. Note that when creating a new
device, Creator creates a new folder. I'm using linux rather than Mac
OS but I'm guessing the principles are the same. In any event, Creator
tells you where the new folder will be created.

For reference, mine
is /home/chris/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Phone_Wifi/
where the device is called Sailfish_Phone_Wifi.

At that point, you can test the connection. If it fails then, you need
to check the SSH connection on the phone. That's System -> Developer
Mode. Is the IP address correct? Are both Developer mode and Remote
connections options enabled? Set the password there - you can use the
previously used password - and try again.

HTH.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Versions

[Chris Walker]

On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:58:16 +0200
Bob Jelica  wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> If you have this in your .yaml:
> 
> Version: 1.0.0
> 
> QMakeOptions:
> - VERSION='%{version}-%{release}'
> 
> Then you can do this in your .pro file:
> DEFINES += APP_VERSION=\\\"$$VERSION\\\"
> 
> That gives you the option to do this in your main.cpp:
> QScopedPointer view(SailfishApp::createView());
> view->rootContext()->setContextProperty("APP_VERSION", APP_VERSION);
> 
> 
> And BOOM! now you can use APP_VERSION wherever in your QML
> (AboutPage.qml for example)
> 
> :)

Ah. I used to do something similar in my N900 version of the app except
that I used to specify the version in the .pro file. I've never tried
to incorporate it into the Sailfish version. I'll give your version
another go now.

Thanks for that and thanks too to Andrey Kozhevnikov for his ideas.
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[SailfishDevel] Versions

[Chris Walker]

Is there any way to have my 'About' page pick up the Version and
Release information from the yaml file?

At the moment, I'm hard coding the versioninfo in the About page but
I'd like it to be updated automagically in the future.

I looked around but couldn't see this information anywhere so I'm
guessing that this question hasn't been asked/answered before but if it
has, please feel free to point me in the right direction.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:45:08 +0100
Krisztian Olah  wrote:

> First off, you should place each class to its own heeader and source
> file to reduce future compile time. When you change only one class
>  you won't have to recompile everything thus it's easier to find the
> classes.
> 
> You should use one of the Qt Sql Model classes:
> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/sql-model.html
> 
> something like:
> 
> logic <---> qml
> logic <---> databaseManager
> databaseManager <---> databaseModel
> view <---> databaseModel
> 
> logic has a member function/slot to return a pointer to the model that
> qml displays in a view.
> 
> logic also has a function/slot that takes the required data from qml
> that is needed to add  a new entry in the database. This function
> invokes a member function of databaseManager that does the real work,
> hence only databaseManager touches the database the view will
> interact with the model to which it has a pointer from logic which in
> turn asks  for the pointer from databaseManager. When a new entry is
> added databaseManager updates its model that emits the needed signals
> that informs any connected views about the changes.

What you describe is exactly what I would like to achieve with the next
version of the program but one which uses 2 databases, one provided
by an organisation called CAMRA - www.camra.org.uk and my own to record
any visits to pubs and the beers I drink there.

But that's some way away as I my programming ability needs to improve
considerably before I can do such things! When you get to my age, these
things don't come easily. Certainly they don't for me.

Perhaps I should leave things as they are on this program and
concentrate on the new one!
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:14:34 +0200 (CEST)
sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote:

> Hello, looking a bit at your code, you are using a pagestack.push,
> meaning that you effectively adds another page to your pagestack.
> 
> For adding a new beer, I think that the best would be using a Dialog
> component.

Ok. I'll take a look at how I might do that.

Many thanks for looking.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:45:28 +0600
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> you do not need to reload page, so there wouldn't any navigation 
> problems at all :)

I'm afraid you have me thoroughly confused now.

Can you do me a favour and take a look at my code and let me know where
I'm going wrong and what I should be doing?

It's here - https://github.com/tonercloud/beertent/tree/master/beertent

The only change I've made since I uploaded that is to add #include
 to beertent.cpp

Ta.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:45:46 +
fasza2mob...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> Why don't you just update your model when the data changes? The
> view(s) should update automatically. 

Ok, but how does that solve the page navigation problem?
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[SailfishDevel] Pagestack problems

[Chris Walker]

I'm struggling with pagestack and need some help.

My initial page loads a database and I have an option to pull down to
add a new item. At the bottom of the 'AddItem' page, I have a check and
if all additions are correct, it steps on to the initial page again.
But it isn't! I have two dots at the top of the top of the screen
indicating that it's a copy of the first page.

If I look here -
https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-pagestack.html
I'm still confused! My call to reload the first page is
pageStack.replace(Qt.resolvedUrl("InitialPage.qml")) so what should it
be so that my InitialPage is at the stage it would be when the program
starts? I'm asking that because I want the database reloaded although
I do have this call in that page -

onStatusChanged: {
if (status === PageStatus.Activating) {
fillblistModel();

Any help appreciated.
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[SailfishDevel] Why this error now?

[Chris Walker]

I'm trying to deploy my app to my phone and on the emulator it works -
in debug mode. But as soon as I switch to release mode, it keels over.

Here's the cpp code where it fails :-

#ifdef QT_QML_DEBUG
#include 
#endif

#include 
#include 

#include 
#include "DatabaseManager.h"

Q_DECL_EXPORT int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
QScopedPointer app(SailfishApp::application(argc,
argv)); QScopedPointer view(SailfishApp::createView());

DatabaseManager* db = new DatabaseManager();
db->open();

view->rootContext()->setContextProperty("db", db);

view->setSource(SailfishApp::pathTo("qml/beertent.qml"));

view->show();

return app->exec();
}

The error is invalid use of incomplete type 'struct QQmlContext'

I can easily fix it by adding #include  and it all then
works as expected but my query is this. Why does it work in debug mode
with no errors but fails in release mode?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Recent update improvements?

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:06:56 +0300
Juha Kallioinen  wrote:

> On 23.06.2014 18:52, Chris Walker wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:51:17 +0300
> > Juha Kallioinen  wrote:
> >
> >> On 23.06.2014 16:38, Chris Walker wrote:
> >>> What was the reason for 'improving' the Emulator? By improvement,
> >>> I mean that there is now only one option and that is to shut it
> >>> down rather than saving the state? I consider that to be a right
> >>> PITA.
> >>>
> >> The reason was to prevent accidental state savings.
> >>
> >> You can still save its state by opening the VirtualBox manager
> >> window and selecting the menu option (Close/Save state) for the
> >> running Emulator. It's a bit more difficult to choose and that
> >> should make it a more deliberate action.
> > Just to be clear on this, you are referring to the option to save a
> > single state with Ctrl-V rather than a permanent change to re-enable
> > the option to save the state.
> 
> I think so... how do these differ in operation? I think they do
> exactly the same thing?
> 
> If you want to re-enable the three options in the shut down dialog,
> you can do this (including the quotes) on your host command line when
> the Emulator is not running:
> 
> $ VBoxManage setextradata "SailfishOS Emulator"
> "GUI/RestrictedCloseActions"
> 
> But I will keep shipping the Emulator with just the one option
> enabled also in the future releases.

That's fine. I understand the reasons for that. But I like to be able
to have my system run as I like it, so I appreciate the hint about
changing it back to 'as was'.

Now, another question. When did the ability to jump to the top or bottom
of a list happen? I have only just noticed it so I'm assuming it
happened with the latest update. In case you're not clear what I mean,
it's when I scroll a long list, some icons appear enabling me to jump
to the top or bottom of the list. Perhaps it was this question -
[SailfishDevel] Scroll Indicator - from February 14 2014 that prompted
it ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Recent update improvements?

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:51:17 +0300
Juha Kallioinen  wrote:

> On 23.06.2014 16:38, Chris Walker wrote:
> > What was the reason for 'improving' the Emulator? By improvement, I
> > mean that there is now only one option and that is to shut it down
> > rather than saving the state? I consider that to be a right PITA.
> >
> 
> The reason was to prevent accidental state savings.
> 
> You can still save its state by opening the VirtualBox manager window 
> and selecting the menu option (Close/Save state) for the running 
> Emulator. It's a bit more difficult to choose and that should make it
> a more deliberate action.

Just to be clear on this, you are referring to the option to save a
single state with Ctrl-V rather than a permanent change to re-enable
the option to save the state.
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[SailfishDevel] Recent update improvements?

[Chris Walker]

What was the reason for 'improving' the Emulator? By improvement, I
mean that there is now only one option and that is to shut it down
rather than saving the state? I consider that to be a right PITA.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Deploy QSQLite database

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:37:41 +
Lukas Vogel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks all for your answers. Andreys solution works, it complained
> first for the simulator,
> but seems to work now (after it ran successfully on device).
> 
> I now changed the path
> to /usr/share/harbour-qtimetable/data/stations.db
> 
> I have quite a big read-only part (list of train-stations) but I want
> to store things like favorites and stuff.
> Would you suggest creating 2 separate db, or copying the whole db at
> first start-up to the write-able location?

I'm interested in this one too as I have a large database which is used
'as is' but I want to store my own settings for it. I'm thinking along
the lines of a separate SQL file and not touching the 'supplied'
database.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:04:34 +0300
Juha Kallioinen  wrote:

> On 19.06.2014 15:49, Chris Walker wrote:
> >
> > I bit the bullet and did an uninstall and a full reinstall having
> > deleted the SailfishAlpha folder in my home folder directory
> > structure.
> >
> > I'm now seeing lots of these errors in a Konsole window however :-
> >
> > kfilemodule(15749) KDesktopFile::isAuthorizedDesktopFile: Access to
> > '
> > "/home/chris/Sailfish_Git_Projects/GBG_Beertent/GBG_Beertent.desktop"
> > ' denied, not owned by root, executable flag not set.
> >
> > I didn't see them before the reinstallation.
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> looks like some component in KDE is looking at your project's desktop 
> file and is trying to evaluate them (or something). I don't know if
> this is a big issue, although the extra warnings can be confusing.

As I'm not seeing them in any Qt Creator windows, I am not too
concerned about them. When copying over a database file, I've seeing
these messages too :-
Soft assert
at 
/home/builder/src/sailfish-qtcreator/src/libs/ssh/sshconnectionmanager.cpp:150

Again, I'm not concerned, more puzzled as to why they're suddenly
appearing.

> Those messages do not originate from the SDK code.
> 
> Out of interest, what is your linux distro and KDE version?

The distro is Mageia 4 - 64 bit and KDE is 4.11
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:22:20 +0300
Juha Kallioinen  wrote:

> On 13.06.2014 21:16, Chris Walker wrote:
> >
> > Is this relevant to my problem above? I don't see how, but you never
> > know!
> >
> > error: unpacking of archive failed on
> > file /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-build: cpio: rename failed -
> > Is a directory
> >
> > This was from an attempted update after the above failure.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is relevant to your original problem, but that 
> error looks like one that might come if you update the MerSDK with 
> zypper dup instead of letting the SDK updater update/replace all of
> the components. If this is the case, I suggest that you either let
> the updater do its job or do a complete reinstall of the SDK.

I bit the bullet and did an uninstall and a full reinstall having
deleted the SailfishAlpha folder in my home folder directory structure.

I'm now seeing lots of these errors in a Konsole window however :-

kfilemodule(15749) KDesktopFile::isAuthorizedDesktopFile: Access to '
"/home/chris/Sailfish_Git_Projects/GBG_Beertent/GBG_Beertent.desktop" '
denied, not owned by root, executable flag not set.

I didn't see them before the reinstallation.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:22:20 +0300
Juha Kallioinen  wrote:

> On 13.06.2014 21:16, Chris Walker wrote:
> >
> > Is this relevant to my problem above? I don't see how, but you never
> > know!
> >
> > error: unpacking of archive failed on
> > file /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-build: cpio: rename failed -
> > Is a directory
> >
> > This was from an attempted update after the above failure.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is relevant to your original problem, but that 
> error looks like one that might come if you update the MerSDK with 
> zypper dup instead of letting the SDK updater update/replace all of
> the components. If this is the case, I suggest that you either let
> the updater do its job or do a complete reinstall of the SDK.

As far as I can recall, I have never updated any of the components
individually, only through the Creator update mechanism.

As I pointed out above, the error manifests itself when trying to run
an update through Creator.

I can't say I like the idea of a complete reinstall of the SDK to fix a
problem. That looks like a Microsoft way of fixing things!

Are there no flags representing an update state? I could amend one to
force a more major update to resolve the issue instead of the complete
reinstall.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:32:44 +0100
Chris Walker  wrote:

> I've had an app in development for ages and I've always been able to
> have an image on the cover page. I've started another app today -
> created from the template (New File or Project ...) - and using the
> same code for the cover page, Creator is complaining that it can't
> find the image.

Just in case anybody is tempted to ask, there is a line in the .pro
file specifying where to find the image.

> Here's the first bit of code for the cover page. What am I doing
> wrong / need to check to make this work again?
> 
> import QtQuick 2.0
> import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
> 
> CoverBackground {
> id: coverpage
> anchors.centerIn: parent
> 
> Image {
> id: logo
> source: "images/fuelpad.png"
> anchors.centerIn: parent
> }
> 
> For info, the images folder is inside the qml folder so the folder
> structure is Fuelpad > qml > cover alongside images, pages and the
> Fuelpad.qml file.
> 
> I've searched the mail list since August of last year and nobody seems
> to have suffered from this problem.
> 
> Any help appreciated.

Is this relevant to my problem above? I don't see how, but you never
know!

error: unpacking of archive failed on
file /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-build: cpio: rename failed - Is a
directory

This was from an attempted update after the above failure.
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[SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

[Chris Walker]

I've had an app in development for ages and I've always been able to
have an image on the cover page. I've started another app today -
created from the template (New File or Project ...) - and using the
same code for the cover page, Creator is complaining that it can't find
the image.

Here's the first bit of code for the cover page. What am I doing
wrong / need to check to make this work again?

import QtQuick 2.0
import Sailfish.Silica 1.0

CoverBackground {
id: coverpage
anchors.centerIn: parent

Image {
id: logo
source: "images/fuelpad.png"
anchors.centerIn: parent
}

For info, the images folder is inside the qml folder so the folder
structure is Fuelpad > qml > cover alongside images, pages and the
Fuelpad.qml file.

I've searched the mail list since August of last year and nobody seems
to have suffered from this problem.

Any help appreciated.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] ususcribe

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 27 May 2014 21:55:17 +0200
Benoît HERVIER  wrote:

> 
> 

The clue is in the words!

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:09:10 +0200
Mikael Hermansson  wrote:

[snip 1]
> And please do not reply this message on the mailinglist because I
> will not be available answer since I from know on unsubscribe to the
> forum until this discussions stops!
[massive snip]

Technical question!

How will you know that the discussion has stopped if you're not
subscribed? Answers on a postcard ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Spacing issues

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:14:43 +
Jarko Vihriala  wrote:

> What? It's a QML item. You can instantiate the standard magic as you
> please. For the documentation, have you visited:
> https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-backgrounditem.html
> also the SDK (1404 version) has updated Silica documentation in the
> built-in helps. That should get you somewhere.

Have I visited ? Nope. That didn't show up in my google searches
for positioning and row. You will no doubt notice that 'row' does not
feature in the example shown. You can put that down to a failure by
google in you like ;-)

Thanks to a previous respondent, I do now have a working solution which
I will have another look at today. I'm afraid programming took a back
seat today. A beer festival took pride of place in my Jolla diary. I
need subject material for my app ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:43:24 +0200
Filip Kłębczyk  wrote:

> W dniu 20.05.2014 20:30, Tone Kastlunger pisze:
> > IMHO,
> > and with all respect,
> > personally I am not interested in cutthorat and dagger, but rather
> > interested in development issues.
> 
> Feel free to not read this thread. It's your choice what you read or
> not.

As the first person to respond to this thread, I said I was
disappointed. I am even more disappointed now. I'm afraid you lost
me when you shot yourself in the foot by posting private content on
here. That was a private conversation and should have remained so. It
is not good enough that *you* feel it should be published. Plainly a
number of people, myself included do not feel that this is the right
place for it.

It is also not acceptable for you to say that we can read it or not.

Please let this be the last posting on the subject, but having said
that, I hope things work out for you. If I were closer, I'd grab you
and Thomas P and bang your heads together until you resolved it ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Spacing issues

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 20 May 2014 21:36:00 +0600
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> delegate: BackgroundItem {
>la-la-la
> }

Okay. That's reinstated the list of beers but I'm back to square one in
that the text is overwriting the image.

So it's one step forward and one step back.

Where should I be looking for documentation on this? I've looked at row
stuff online but it lacks the details for how to specify margins,
positioning and the like. Or, the bits *I've* been looking at do ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Spacing issues

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 20 May 2014 20:06:41 +0600
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> BackgroundItem {
> id: delegate
> 
> width: parent.width
> height: Theme.itemSizeSmall
> 
> Row {
> id: row
> x: Theme.paddingLarge
> anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
> spacing: Theme.paddingMedium
> onClicked: {
> //do something
> }
> Image {
> fillMode: Image.PreserveAspectCrop
> source: model.drunk_y_n? "../images/empty_glass.png" : 
> "../images/full_glass.png"

I get an error here - model is not defined ... and ...

> }
> Label {
> anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
> color: parent.highlighted ? Theme.highlightColor : Theme.primaryColor
> text: model.beerName

another error here - model is not defined and yet they worked in my
code. This model stuff baffles me!

So just to be clear on what's going on here, I have this code preceding
the new call to BackgroundItem where I had delegate: BackgroundItem

Does this change anything? As I said, this model stuff baffles me.


SilicaListView {
id: beerlistView
model: beerListModel
anchors.fill: parent
header: PageHeader {
title: brewerydetailspage.breweryDetails.brewery_name
}

// Implement a context menu for editing instead of a drop-down.

// PullDownMenu and PushUpMenu must be declared in
SilicaFlickable, SilicaListView or SilicaGridView PullDownMenu {
MenuItem {
text: "Add a Beer"
// change page name to reflect the choice change above
onClicked:
pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("AddBeerPage.qml")) }
}
PushUpMenu {
MenuItem {
text: qsTr("Go to top")
onClicked: beerlistView.scrollToTop()
}
}

BackgroundItem {
=

> }
> }
> }
> 
> 
> 20.05.2014 20:00, Chris Walker пишет:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a list of items which display fine from a model. But I want
> > to display an image before the text is displayed. The image is of a
> > beer glass and the text items are beer names. But the beer names
> > are overwriting the images. So where am I going wrong please?
> >
> > Here are the relevant bits of the code :-
> >
> > delegate: BackgroundItem {
> >  id: delegate
> >
> >  ListItem {
> >  id: listItem
> >  property bool drunk_y_n: model.drunk_y_n
> >  Image {
> >  width: 40
> >  height: listItem.height - 4
> >
> >  anchors {
> >  left: parent.left
> >  // this margin refers to the image, not
> > the text in the ListElement leftMargin: 4
> >  verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
> >  }
> >  source: drunk_y_n?
> > "../images/empty_glass.png" : "../images/full_glass.png" }
> >  }
> >
> >  Label {
> >  anchors.leftMargin: 45
> >  anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
> >  width: parent.width - Theme.paddingLarge
> >  // x: Theme.paddingLarge
> >  wrapMode: Text.Wrap
> >  // elide: Text.ElideRight
> >  font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSizeMedium
> >  // style: Text.Raised
> >  text: model.beerName
> >  color: delegate.highlighted ? Theme.highlightColor :
> >  Theme.primaryColor }
> >  onClicked: console.log("Clicked " + index)
> >  // amend this to call BeerDetailsPage.qml
> >  }
> >  VerticalScrollDecorator {}
> >
> > I should add that at some point, I will also want to add some text
> > to display the ABV of the beers. I'm considering displaying the
> > beer name, then the ABV and then the image. So should I be thinking
> > of specifying columns for these? If so, how can I specify the
> > widths of the columns such that the beer names will fade (elide?)
> > under the ABV?
> >
> > Any help appreciated.
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[SailfishDevel] Spacing issues

[Chris Walker]

Hello,

I have a list of items which display fine from a model. But I want to
display an image before the text is displayed. The image is of a beer
glass and the text items are beer names. But the beer names are overwriting
the images. So where am I going wrong please?

Here are the relevant bits of the code :-

delegate: BackgroundItem {
id: delegate

ListItem {
id: listItem
property bool drunk_y_n: model.drunk_y_n
Image {
width: 40
height: listItem.height - 4

anchors {
left: parent.left
// this margin refers to the image, not the text in the 
ListElement
leftMargin: 4
verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
}
source: drunk_y_n? "../images/empty_glass.png" :
"../images/full_glass.png" }
}

Label {
anchors.leftMargin: 45
anchors.verticalCenter: parent.verticalCenter
width: parent.width - Theme.paddingLarge
// x: Theme.paddingLarge
wrapMode: Text.Wrap
// elide: Text.ElideRight
font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSizeMedium
// style: Text.Raised
text: model.beerName
color: delegate.highlighted ? Theme.highlightColor :
Theme.primaryColor }
onClicked: console.log("Clicked " + index)
// amend this to call BeerDetailsPage.qml
}
VerticalScrollDecorator {}

I should add that at some point, I will also want to add some text to
display the ABV of the beers. I'm considering displaying the beer name,
then the ABV and then the image. So should I be thinking of specifying
columns for these? If so, how can I specify the widths of the columns
such that the beer names will fade (elide?) under the ABV?

Any help appreciated.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 19 May 2014 11:41:16 +0200
Filip Kłębczyk  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm writing on developers list, because I wanted to express my 
> disappointment ...

I'd like to express my disappointment for a couple of reasons.

One is that this needed to appear here at all and second that there
*appears* to have been no follow up from anybody at Jolla and in
particular, Thomas Perl.

This should have been jumped on by Jolla in an effort to resolve the
squabling. By now we should have a response from them to say that they
are looking into it and we could safely divert our gaze.

I for one don't expect to see any followups except from either
Filip, Thomas P or somebody else at Jolla to say that this has been
resolved amicably. I certainly don't expect to see any tit-for-tap
arguments continuing. This list is not the place for that.
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[SailfishDevel] GPS sensor

[Chris Walker]

Hello,

Is it possible to disable the onboard GPS sensor and use a bluetooth
unit instead?

If I look at the location side of the phone, it doesn't offer that
option whereas the Nokia N900 does. Is it possible to do it via some
code perhaps?

In case you're wondering why I might want to do such a thing, the
answer is heat. The phone seems to run much warmer when using Android
code and I have installed Sygic maps. I had those on the N900 and liked
their operation but that phone also ran very hot and would lose comms
from the inbuilt GPS when it did so. Hence I'd like to avoid the same
problem this time around.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:22:39 +0100
David Greaves  wrote:

> On 14/04/14 14:49, Chris Walker wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:26:58 +0100
> > Chris Walker  wrote:

> > I installed the ntp client and it now picks up network time. I'm
> > assuming therefore that there is some time 'slip' between the host
> > machine and VBox.
> 
> This works but is suboptimal.

Perhaps I need to clarify this. I installed the ntpclient on the host,
and hence why I specified my machine architecture.

> Make sure
>   /usr/bin/VBoxService -f
> is running in the guest; it manages time sync.

It appears to be as it produces several lines of output when I run the
above command. Should I be concerned about this?
Service 'memballoon' was disabled because of missing functionality

> Also https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html
> 
> Finally check your host is running the correct services and has all
> the right modules built.

I think you'd need to specify which are the correct services and also
all the correct modules, and yes I *did* read the above chapter in the
manual. I can confirm that Guest Additions is installed and working for
a couple of Windows virtual machines but I haven't installed it on the
Mer box. Am I meant to?

If it's a stock install though, why would I need to reconfigure
anything? It all worked before and all I've done is re-install the SDK
and load up the existing .pro file from my project.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:26:58 +0100
Chris Walker  wrote:

> Can somebody help me with this one please?
> 
> I've just rebuilt my machine and have reinstalled QtCreator etc. I
> never had this problem before so I'm guessing it's something I've done
> but each time I rebuild my project, I get this error.
> 
> I've googled it and several people suggest that it's because the build
> system is on another machine. I suppose it is here as the build is a
> virtual machine, but as I said, it didn't happen until I rebuilt the
> box (64 bit Mageia 4) and I'm struggling to fix it.
> 
> I can't move on with my project until I solve it so can anybody
> suggest what I could check please?

Physician heal thyself!

I installed the ntp client and it now picks up network time. I'm
assuming therefore that there is some time 'slip' between the host
machine and VBox.

I now get loads of warnings which again, I haven't seen before such as
these :-
Warning for %files line: "/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps"
please use %{_datadir} to replace the leading path /usr/share

But I *ought* to be able to fix that one ;-)
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[SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

[Chris Walker]

Can somebody help me with this one please?

I've just rebuilt my machine and have reinstalled QtCreator etc. I
never had this problem before so I'm guessing it's something I've done
but each time I rebuild my project, I get this error.

I've googled it and several people suggest that it's because the build
system is on another machine. I suppose it is here as the build is a
virtual machine, but as I said, it didn't happen until I rebuilt the
box (64 bit Mageia 4) and I'm struggling to fix it.

I can't move on with my project until I solve it so can anybody suggest
what I could check please?

Regards
CDW
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [Update] Changelog for SailfishOS update 4 (1.0.4.20)

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:24:14 +0800
itviewer  wrote:

> After updated，the Android application （or aliendalvik ）can't work ,
> Do you have the problem ?

Angry Birds still works here after the update so suggest you look
elsewhere for the problem.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Landscape - was Folder permissions

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:26:28 +0200
Iosif Hamlatzis  wrote:

> Thank you, a big burden has been lifted.
> 
> I can now start debugging the game on the actual device since the
> emulator doesn't support landscape mode.

Is landscape on the emulator going to be implemented soon or is there
a workaround we can employ?
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[SailfishDevel] Scroll Indicator

[Chris Walker]

Simple question,

Is it possible to make the scroll indicator more permanent and wider so
that the user can grab it in order to scroll a long list?

I have a list of items which is around 700 items in length. In due
course I hope to able to put some filtering in place, rather like the
People app, to avoid the long scroll. But in the meantime, I'd like to
be able to offer the user the possibility to grab the slider and drag
it down the list.

So can it be done, and if so, how?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Page Status code

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:19:42 +0100
Thomas Perl  wrote:

> On 2014-02-12 20:36, Chris Walker wrote:
> > In the past (Harmattan code), I would have done this sort of
> > stuff :-
> >
> > onStatusChanged: {
> >  if (status==PageStatus.Activating) {
> >
> > but there is no 'onStatusChanged' option now. So what do I use now?
> >
> > I've looked here -
> > https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-page.html
> > but it doesn't mention that status directly.
> 
> In QML, every property automatically has a on[Property]Changed
> signal, and those signals are not documented, because the language
> itself defines that such signals always exist for each property and
> therefore do not need to be documented explicitly. The documented
> "status" property will - when changed - cause the "onStatusChanged"
> handler to be called.
> 
> From 
> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-syntax-objectattributes.html#property-change-signal-handlers:
> 
> "Signal handlers for property change signal take the syntax form 
> /onChanged/ where // is the name of the property, 
> with the first letter capitalized. For example, although the
> TextInput
> <http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-textinput.html>
> type documentation does not document a textChanged signal, this
> signal is implicitly available through the fact that TextInput
> <http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-textinput.html>
> has a text
> <http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-textinput.html#text-prop>
> property and so it is possible to write an onTextChanged signal
> handler to be called whenever this property changes [...]"
> 
> So the code as written above (onStatusChanged) should in fact work
> as-is.
> 
> HTH :)

I'll add all that to "yet more stuff to learn" :-)

Many thanks.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Page Status code

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 01:39:31 +0600
Andrey Kozhevnikov  wrote:

> it's still there and working. no idea what wrong with your setup

Problem identified as being between the keyboard and the chair ;-)

Despite checking, I failed to spot that I was trying to insert the code
in the wrong place on the page and simply assumed that something had
changed for Sailfish.

Panic over!
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[SailfishDevel] Page Status code

[Chris Walker]

In the past (Harmattan code), I would have done this sort of stuff :-

onStatusChanged: {
if (status==PageStatus.Activating) {

but there is no 'onStatusChanged' option now. So what do I use now?

I've looked here - 
https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-page.html but
it doesn't mention that status directly.

Any help appreciated.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Recording of Carsten Munk's presentation at Fosdem

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:17:49 +0100
winfried.do...@xmsnet.nl wrote:

> The video of Carsten Munk's Fosdem presentation "Technical
> introduction to the deeper parts of SailfishOS" is now online at:
> 
> http://youtu.be/Ed8duAnlwHc

Are the slides available anywhere?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Recommended way to populate a LocalStorageDB from an external source

[Chris Walker]

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:20:33 +0100
christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

> Hi All
> 
[snip]> 
> But I was never happy with that solution, and it now seems to me
> that a Qt Desktop app would be much better suited to configuring /  
> populating the DB. (more screen, better keyboard etc.).



> But exactly how should this work? I see several possibilities, all  
> with pros and cons.
 
> a) The Desktop app creates a LocalStorageDB, and the entire DB is  
> transferred to the Jolla. This means that Landed would have to
> deploy the DB on a file level, then access it via the LocalStorage
> api as normal.



> b) The Desktop app dumps a human readable exchange file (csv, xml,  
> json) which is picked up by Landed, parsed and converted to SQL  
> INSERTS then called via the LocalStorage API

> At the moment I favour option b) as the most likely to work and be  
> accepted, with option d) as the wildcard probably wont't work, but  
> might turn out to be the easy option.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,

One question first. Are you intending to do the swap of files at home?
If so, why not fire up some sort of server on the home machine which,
when you fire up the app on the phone, is accessed by the app which
then proceeds to download the latest version of the database. You just
need to set up a procedure to make sure you're not going to overwrite
the 'father' generation of the database with the 'son' version, or even
worse the 'grandfather' version (that assumes that you have three
versions).

Another option is a dropbox client on the phone - I think one is
already available.

How about a line in the SQL file which has a creation date? That way
you easily run a check from the code on both the desktop app and the
phone to make absolutely certain that the version of the db you're
using is the latest all-singing, all-dancing version.

I personally wouldn't be doing all the export/import stuff. That seems
prone to errors/corruption IMHO.

Just my two pennies worth.

CDW (not Chris to avoid confusion ;-))
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? [SOLVED]

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:37:17 +0200
Valerio Valerio  wrote:

> This seems like a common configuration, I checked the login methods
> and can't see anything special, have you tried following settings for
> stmp:

Following yesterday's update, email now works using settings that didn't
work before.

I should say a public thank you to Valerio for identifying that there
was a software issue in the underlying code which prevented it working
for me and that a fix would be issued in update 3.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Supercession

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:53:19 +
Chris Walker  wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:06:07 +0100
> Lucien XU  wrote:
> 
> > Le mercredi 29 janvier 2014 15:57:27 Chris Walker a écrit :
> > > In trying to update a Qt4 app (written for an N900) to Qt5 I
> > > wanted to find out what I should do in order to update something
> > > like this === code
> > > property QueryDialog deleteDialog
> > > === end code
> > > 
> > > I get an error 'QueryDialog is not a type' and found out that
> > > QDialog does exist in Qt5 but it inherits Widgets and as they're
> > > not used in Sailfish, I wondered how I might go about finding out
> > > what *is* used.
> > > 
> > > Often we have queries here when somebody has tried something and
> > > it hasn't worked, and the learned sailors respond with something
> > > along the lines of 'you need to do this', where 'this' is
> > > something new and peculiar to Sailfish.
> > > 
> > > Is there a definitive list (albeit subject to change) for
> > > supercessions like this?
> > 
> > Hello !
> > 
> > With the snippet that you quoted, I guess that you are trying to use
> > QML to store a component holding for a dialog. If you are holding a
> > component, you can still use 
> > property var deleteDialog
> > 
> > and then implement the dialog in Silica specific component.
> > 
> > However, in general, it is not recommended to mix QWidgets and QML,
> > especially in a Qt 5 QML 2 application, not only in Sailfish, but
> > when you use Qt 5.
> > 
> > BR,
> > Lucien
> 
> Bonjour Lucien,
> 
> Thanks for ideas - saves me a few minutes ;-)
> 
> My main query was for ideas on how to avoid this sort of problem by
> being able to look in any Sailfish docs for ways to do these things
> the Sailfish way - a sort of technical version of a 'style/theme'
> guide I guess.
> 
> If I look at the emulator, it gives some examples so is there a
> codebase somewhere describing not only the things called out there but
> other examples too?

D'oh! I should have looked more closely at the web page I had open
BEFORE I wrote anything -
https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-dialog.html
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Supercession

[Chris Walker]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:06:07 +0100
Lucien XU  wrote:

> Le mercredi 29 janvier 2014 15:57:27 Chris Walker a écrit :
> > In trying to update a Qt4 app (written for an N900) to Qt5 I wanted
> > to find out what I should do in order to update something like this
> > === code
> > property QueryDialog deleteDialog
> > === end code
> > 
> > I get an error 'QueryDialog is not a type' and found out that
> > QDialog does exist in Qt5 but it inherits Widgets and as they're
> > not used in Sailfish, I wondered how I might go about finding out
> > what *is* used.
> > 
> > Often we have queries here when somebody has tried something and it
> > hasn't worked, and the learned sailors respond with something along
> > the lines of 'you need to do this', where 'this' is something new
> > and peculiar to Sailfish.
> > 
> > Is there a definitive list (albeit subject to change) for
> > supercessions like this?
> 
> Hello !
> 
> With the snippet that you quoted, I guess that you are trying to use
> QML to store a component holding for a dialog. If you are holding a
> component, you can still use 
> property var deleteDialog
> 
> and then implement the dialog in Silica specific component.
> 
> However, in general, it is not recommended to mix QWidgets and QML,
> especially in a Qt 5 QML 2 application, not only in Sailfish, but
> when you use Qt 5.
> 
> BR,
> Lucien

Bonjour Lucien,

Thanks for ideas - saves me a few minutes ;-)

My main query was for ideas on how to avoid this sort of problem by
being able to look in any Sailfish docs for ways to do these things the
Sailfish way - a sort of technical version of a 'style/theme' guide I
guess.

If I look at the emulator, it gives some examples so is there a
codebase somewhere describing not only the things called out there but
other examples too?

Talking of style related items and this is a largely a question for
the Sailfish people themselves, is there some sort of definition on how
apps should present covers? If I look at my phone (while not wearing
glasses), I find it hard to discriminate between emails and text
messages. In some of the early pictures of the phone, the apps on the
Home screen were shown with pictures. The only Sailfish app on that
screen that has a cover icon is the People app. But having installed
SMPC, that is a superb example IMHO of how it should be done.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] White screen and no errors

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:14:11 +0100
christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote:

> Hi Marcin
> 
> How did you deploy?
> 
> Have you checked the QtCreator compile output as well as the  
> application output?

Same failure seen here and while it is normally down to a QML error,
there is no helpful error report anywhere in any of the output windows.

As Marcin said, in earlier versions, this type of error was always
reported.
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[SailfishDevel] Supercession

[Chris Walker]

In trying to update a Qt4 app (written for an N900) to Qt5 I wanted to
find out what I should do in order to update something like this
=== code
property QueryDialog deleteDialog
=== end code

I get an error 'QueryDialog is not a type' and found out that QDialog
does exist in Qt5 but it inherits Widgets and as they're not used in
Sailfish, I wondered how I might go about finding out what *is* used.

Often we have queries here when somebody has tried something and it
hasn't worked, and the learned sailors respond with something along the
lines of 'you need to do this', where 'this' is something new and
peculiar to Sailfish.

Is there a definitive list (albeit subject to change) for supercessions
like this?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] (USB) access to sdcard?

[Chris Walker]

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:35:30 +0100
Wim de Vries  wrote:

> Hi,
> Currently the SDCARD is mounted at /run/usr/10/media/sdcard.

I think you mean /run/user/.. as /run/usr doesn't exist and I don't
think you'd want to be writing to /usr even if it did ;-)

> Can I hard-code this into my app, or will it change in future?
> 
> Also, I want my users to be able to put data (aviation maps+more) on
> the SD card via a USB connection.

Can't you (as root) unmount the sdcard from the above location, as user
create a folder /home/nemo/sdcard and then mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 to
there?

How about an entry in fstab to fix that mount permanently?

Run blkid to give you the UUID of the sdcard so that even if it's
swapped out, it will still remount in the same place.

This is what I get when I run that command (I have a 16GB SD card in my
phone which came straight from my N900)
/dev/mmcblk1p1: UUID="B7C1-AD43" TYPE="vfat"

I can't help you with the USB stuff.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:51:27 +0100
Markus Svensson  wrote:

> Ah - tap-and-pan, never tried that particular gesture :)
> 
> But it does work - thanks for pointing it out. 

A definite +1 for that. I looked at an iPhone recently and to be able
to zoom in and rock a finger to move between letters was something I
thought would be good here but this is just as good. Well done Jolla.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

[Chris Walker]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:07:24 +0200
Kalle Vahlman  wrote:

> 2014/1/10 Chris Walker :
> > On the way home from the meeting, I wanted to send a text to my
> > wife. If I thought email was difficult, that was a walk in the park
> > compared to trying to send an SMS. Seriously people, have you tried
> > this thing in the real world? Where's the Reply button? Jeez. You
> > sure are making life tough.
> 
> This intrigues me. What exactly did you find difficult in sending an
> SMS?

I couldn't see how to reply. But, looking at it again this morning, and
taking onboard something said to me yesterday, I now realise that I was
wrong to criticise that aspect of the phone. In fact, if I think back to
other times, it can be quite advantageous to have the design as it is
now.

Perhaps I should explain those things.

First, the explanation given to me last night. The prospective
purchaser described to me the notion of 'breadcrumbs' i.e. the dots at
the top of the screen indicating more options either side. So looking
at those I could see that there was an option to the right. At first
when I was presented with the contacts page for my wife, I thought the
phone had gone wrong as I expected to be offered a 'reply' button rather
than a straight 'Send SMS' option but that leads me on to part two. In
the past, when somebody has sent me a text I have then wanted to call
them rather than reply by SMS. So the current design has saved me from
having to go to the Contacts/People app to find their details.

> From what I see on the device, it should be quite obvious how to do
> that both through the people app or the messaging app, and
> not-so-obvious but guessable (long press) from the call app.

It's not obvious when you're already annoyed as you tend to overlook
the obvious and I'm afraid I far too readily get annoyed with the phone
at the moment because it isn't like my previous phone. You'll have to
put that down to my intolerance, lack of patience or whatever else you
want to call it. I am learning to use it and as I said above, it can
save me time.

But I can't go without complaining about something ;-)

The distinction between the two types of message - sent and received -
is IMHO too great. I'd like that to be tweaked somehow to make the sent
texts slightly nearer the colour of the received texts.

Also, I'd like the sort to be reversed. Following the logic of the
'running apps' page, the latest app to be used appears at the top left
and if I put something into a box, it appears at the top. So I'd like
the sort to be organised so that the latest text is at the top rather
than at the bottom? Rather than impose my wishes on everybody else as
plainly my views are quite at odds to most people, this ought to be a
config option.

Oh, and in future, perhaps I should consider my replies more carefully
in future before shouting about the design ;-)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:37:17 +0200
Valerio Valerio  wrote:

> Hi,

> This seems like a common configuration, I checked the login methods
> and can't see anything special, have you tried following settings for
> stmp:
> 
> username: your smtp username
> passwor: your stmp password
> server: mail.daily.co.uk
> Secure connection: TLS
> port: 587
> Authentication: Encrypted password
> 
> This assuming that you are running 1.2.5(latest update).

I am, or rather the phone is. I'm the Mk 1 human, perhaps even the
0.7 beta ;-)

> Please let me know if you still can't send emails.

I *still* can't send emails. I'm a member of a local linux user group
and as one of the members is interested in buying a jolla (I should be
on commission!), I took mine along. I have to say that he was
impressed. He played around with it for some time but when he left, I
then moved on to one of the experienced guys who tried to set up the
email account. He had my account working on his laptop with the same
settings that wouldn't work on my phone.

Valerio, if you want to email me privately, I'll give you my email
login details and you can play to your hearts content with this until
you can make it work as I can't.

On the way home from the meeting, I wanted to send a text to my wife.
If I thought email was difficult, that was a walk in the park compared
to trying to send an SMS. Seriously people, have you tried this thing
in the real world? Where's the Reply button? Jeez. You sure are making
life tough.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:08:42 +0100
Markus Svensson  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> very cool - thank you for the suggestion.
> 
> I got this in the log:

Which log? I tried amending the .conf file as mentioned earlier by
Reto Zingg (it was something put forward in the together site) but it
all scrolled by too quickly and I couldn't find a log file.

> [29591] jan 09 21:57:42 [Debug] Messaging :  SMTP : connection
> established [29591] jan 09 21:57:42 [Warning] socketError: 13 :
> "Error during SSL handshake: error:140770FC:SSL
> routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol" [29591] jan 09
> 21:57:42 [Debug] SMTP :  Closed connection: "Socket error" 
> 
> when using SSL - but then I switched to TLS and it works!
> 
> So, now I've finally got working email on my Jolla. :)

Lucky you. I've tried various permutations but I am prepared to give it
another go.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:34:14 +
martin.gri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> those who experience their Jolla crashing out of the blue, can you
> please elaborate, to  see if we're in the same boat?
> 
> Did it switch off all of a sudden?
> Because I'm experiencing this repeatedly. I begin to see a pattern in
> my switch offs. Heavy network traffic on forced 2G in the western
> part of Munich (Pasing and Planegg). I haven't experience this
> problem in other areas so far, so I assume it could be ofono-related.
> 
> Do you see common patterns among your crashes, too?

One question I would ask and that is, do you have developer mode
switched on? If I hook my phone up to my PC with dev mode on, if I
should inadvertently unplug the USB lead from the PC, the phone rolls
over. It doesn't do it if I simply click on PC Connection or Charging
when connecting in the first place. It's repeatable.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

[Chris Walker]

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:02:17 +0200
Valerio Valerio  wrote:

> On 09/01/14 16:05, Chris Walker wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:39:49 +
> > Chris Walker  wrote:
> >
> > [mega snip]
> >> I have also just replied to AL13N (al...@rmail.be) closing this
> >> thread so we'll leave it there.
> > Final comment on this. I created another new email account called
> > jolla@the.. and went through the usual rigmarole of setting it up
> > via the GUI. It failed to send. I then asked for help from the email
> > hosting company who told me that no attempt had been made to log
> > into the SMTP server. They suggested various tweaks to the
> > settings, all to no avail although I did receive different errors
> > on the phone.
> 
> What are the smtp settings you used for android mail app ?

I followed these instructions - http://www.daily.co.uk/support?id=1021
which is what I had already followed when trying to setup email on the
native accounts program (daily.co.uk is my hosting company).

What I find a little frustrating is that when trying to setup IMAP for
cdw_pcmail@the.. the phone would send but not receive - hence no inbox
which is where this thread started - but now when I have created
jolla@the... it can receive but not send. But I'm using all the same
settings with the same server names and so on (for those UK readers, I
am reminded of the Morecambe and Wise sketch with Andre Previn!).

Even more frustrating is that K9 uses the same settings and just works.

So doesn't that imply that something on the phone is broken? But what?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:39:49 +
Chris Walker  wrote:

[mega snip]
> I have also just replied to AL13N (al...@rmail.be) closing this
> thread so we'll leave it there.

Final comment on this. I created another new email account called
jolla@the.. and went through the usual rigmarole of setting it up via
the GUI. It failed to send. I then asked for help from the email
hosting company who told me that no attempt had been made to log into
the SMTP server. They suggested various tweaks to the settings, all to
no avail although I did receive different errors on the phone.

Having grown tired of this, I installed K9 mailer under Android.
Including the time taken to download and install it, it was up and
running within 5 minutes.

I'll be visiting a local linux user group this evening as somebody
wants to see a jolla 'in the flesh' before he parts with his money and
buys one. I might canvass their opinions on what's going wrong with the
native email app but to my mind, something on the phone is severely
broken.

As I'm not of the Microsoft Windows persuasion who believe that
re-installing everything will cure all ills, I'm hopeful that one of
their more knowledgeable people will be able to resolve the problem and
I'll be a happy chappy - well, a slightly less grumpy one ;-)
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