Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[szopin]

Shhh, no, snapping that random insta pic on n900 (and possibly neo900) still 
takes longer than detaching kb part, poor design, better 5 year old phone, and 
not sliding, so bad, and can use bt and charge my kb with watch AND phone. Some 
people, ehh

On Thu Apr 9 20:38:52 2015 GMT+0200, Roberto Colistete Jr. wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  About the The Other Half Keyboard (TOHKBD) v2 for Jolla smartphone, 
> there are 48 remaining to last buyers :
> http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1466065&postcount=1095
> "dirkvl is online now dirkvl Yesterday , 05:36
> Currently 48 TOHKBDs left in the shop."
> 
>  There are many color choices :
> http://funkyotherhalf.com/tohkbdconfigurator/
> and keypad layouts :
> http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  Roberto
> 
> On 09-04-2015 04:52, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> > The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if 
> > it will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
> >
> > (But right now you can still pre-order here: 
> > http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
> >  
> > )
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eli
> 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Roberto Colistete Jr.]

Hi,

About the The Other Half Keyboard (TOHKBD) v2 for Jolla smartphone, 
there are 48 remaining to last buyers :

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1466065&postcount=1095
"dirkvl is online now dirkvl Yesterday , 05:36
Currently 48 TOHKBDs left in the shop."

There are many color choices :
http://funkyotherhalf.com/tohkbdconfigurator/
and keypad layouts :
http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090

Regards,

Roberto

On 09-04-2015 04:52, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if 
it will be available to people who didn't pre-order...


(But right now you can still pre-order here: 
http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090 
)


Regards,
Eli


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[schifano]

Indeed, it seems a good starting point. The main problem to this project
is to have a compatible Android kernel running on Maemo. But it seems
there is a big memory consumption, which will not be a problem with the
Neo900. And it seems that with a more modern kernel it will be easier,
kernel which will be brought by Maemo 5 on Neo900. But after having a
running Android chroot, there will be a big code writing for doing the
glue between the chroot and Maemo 
It seems a be a better idea to investigate about ARC Chromium extension
but it requires a more modern OS than Maemo 5.

> Schifano: and what about Android apps on N900? There was a project, now
> dead, aiming to bring them to N900 via chroot (driven by lexik) but went
> not far from the theoretical stage. There are some clues though about the
> needed kernel modules and some posts about the partial progress. It's a
> good point to start.
>
> I'm sure you would find a couple of people to help if you ask explicitly.
> If you want some more details, let me know. Maybe you'll be the one who'll
> bring us the Android apps?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Ex mea Nokia N900 missum
> Marcin
>
> On Thu Apr   9 00:27:38 2015 Schifano Alexandre
>  wrote:
>> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
>> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
>> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
>> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
>> Galaxy Golden.
>> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
>> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
>>
>> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
>> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
>> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
>> environment
>> > which implies an Android kernel.
>> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I
>> wanted
>> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone
>> > with a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
>> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
>> >
>> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
>> >
>> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
>> > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
>> > manager. It
>> > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
>> > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
>> > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
>> > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
>> > someone will
>> > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
>> > non-Jolla devices.
>> >
>> > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
>> >
>> > As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
>> > version) with
>> > the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
>> > am able
>> > to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
>> > be able
>> > to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android
>> > kernel
>> > and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
>> > possibility to
>> > install Android apps ?
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> >
>> > On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
>> > interrested
>> > by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
>> > DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
>> > mono-core)
>> > and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
>> > Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
>> > Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[schifano]

In this case it's not a smartphone with a physical keyboard but something
like any other Android smartphones with an external keyboard.
If I liked TOHKBD, I could also have bought this :
http://www.mobilezap.com.au/45647-galaxy-s5-magnetic-bluetooth-qwerty-keyboard-case-black.htm
with a Galaxy S5.


> You realize the keyboard doesn't need to be attached while it's in your
> pocket? Only while you're typing and while you type its' not covering the
> lens
>
> 2015-04-09 11:27 GMT+03:00 :
>
>> I'm aware of this product, but I don't like how it is done.
>> The main issue of this keyboard is that it masks the camera. So I can't
>> take quickly a picture, I have to remove in first the keyboard. With
>> this
>> TOHKBD, we can't have an other one : it's either a keyboard or something
>> else. So this smartphone is just like all the others with a physical
>> keyboard, but less interesting because of the camera issue. And finally,
>> I'm not convinced by the magnets. I rather prefer a true slider
>> keyboard.
>>
>> The main interest of this design could have been the possibility to
>> slide
>> out only the directional pad with the smartphone in portrait mode, for
>> allowing users to control there smartphone with it (in case they have
>> gloves for example).
>>
>> So for the moment, for me, the Jolla phone with TOHKBD is not
>> interesting.
>>
>> > The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if
>> it
>> > will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
>> >
>> > (But right now you can still pre-order here:
>> >
>> http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
>> > )
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Eli
>> >
>> > 2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre
>> > >:
>> >
>> >> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
>> >> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones
>> which
>> >> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
>> >> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
>> >> Galaxy Golden.
>> >> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be
>> the
>> >> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
>> >>
>> >> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
>> >> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
>> >> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
>> >> environment
>> >> > which implies an Android kernel.
>> >> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because
>> I
>> >> wanted
>> >> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android
>> >> phone
>> >> with
>> >> > a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with
>> the
>> >> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not
>> equivalent.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
>> >> > > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
>> >> > manager. It
>> >> > > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using
>> >> libhybris.
>> >> > > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace
>> >> Jolla
>> >> > > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
>> >> > > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
>> >> > someone will
>> >> > > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing
>> >> aliendalvik
>> >> for
>> >> > > non-Jolla devices.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>> >> > >> Hi,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
>> >> > version) with
>> >> > >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So
>> if I
>> >> > am able
>> >> > >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I
>> will
>> >> > be able
>> >> > >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an
>> >> Android
>> >> > kernel
>> >> > >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
>> >> > possibility to
>> >> > >> install Android apps ?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Best regards
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
>> >> > >>> Hi,
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
>> >> > interrested
>> >> > >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900,
>> with
>> >> a
>> >> TI
>> >> > >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A
>> instructions,
>> >> > mono-core)
>> >> > >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do
>> you
>> >> think
>> >> > >>> Sailfish will be able t

Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[David Greaves]

Or you could buy, you know, a Jolla phone *today* and

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla

because there's no point in Jolla being as open as possible and then users not 
supporting the community that develops awesome things like that ^^^


David


On 08/04/15 23:27, Schifano Alexandre wrote:

It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
Galaxy Golden.
But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)

On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:

Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>> wrote:

 Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android environment
 which implies an Android kernel.
 I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I wanted
 to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone with
 a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
 possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.

 Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.

 On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
 > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
 manager. It
 > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
 > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
 > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
 > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
 someone will
 > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
 > non-Jolla devices.
 >
 > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
 >>
 >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
 version) with
 >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
 am able
 >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
 be able
 >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android
 kernel
 >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
 possibility to
 >> install Android apps ?
 >>
 >> Best regards
 >>
 >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
 interrested
 >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
 >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
 mono-core)
 >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
 >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
 >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
 >>>
 >>> Best regards,
 >>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Tadeusz Sośnierz]

On 09.04.2015 11:03, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:

You realize the keyboard doesn't need to be attached while it's in your
pocket? Only while you're typing and while you type its' not covering
the lens


When I think of a phone with a hardware keyboard, it's something that's 
attached to my phone, not something that I carry almost separately and 
may lose or forget. Some people don't consider it a reasonable 
compromise, and would rather have a hole in hwkbd, or have it shorter 
than a phone itself. To each their own.


boost::regards,
tadzik


2015-04-09 11:27 GMT+03:00 mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>:

I'm aware of this product, but I don't like how it is done.
The main issue of this keyboard is that it masks the camera. So I can't
take quickly a picture, I have to remove in first the keyboard. With
this
TOHKBD, we can't have an other one : it's either a keyboard or something
else. So this smartphone is just like all the others with a physical
keyboard, but less interesting because of the camera issue. And finally,
I'm not convinced by the magnets. I rather prefer a true slider
keyboard.

The main interest of this design could have been the possibility to
slide
out only the directional pad with the smartphone in portrait mode, for
allowing users to control there smartphone with it (in case they have
gloves for example).

So for the moment, for me, the Jolla phone with TOHKBD is not
interesting.

 > The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know
if it
 > will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
 >
 > (But right now you can still pre-order here:
 >

http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
 > )
 >
 > Regards,
 > Eli
 >
 > 2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre
mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>:
 >
 >> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
 >> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old
smartphones which
 >> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
 >> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
 >> Galaxy Golden.
 >> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will
be the
 >> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
 >>
 >> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
 >> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
 >> >
 >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
 >> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>
>>
 >> wrote:
 >> >
 >> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
 >> environment
 >> > which implies an Android kernel.
 >> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this,
because I
 >> wanted
 >> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android
 >> phone
 >> with
 >> > a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device
with the
 >> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not
equivalent.
 >> >
 >> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
 >> >
 >> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
 >> > > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
 >> > manager. It
 >> > > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using
 >> libhybris.
 >> > > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace
 >> Jolla
 >> > > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
 >> > > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
 >> > someone will
 >> > > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing
 >> aliendalvik
 >> for
 >> > > non-Jolla devices.
 >> > >
 >> > > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
 >> > >> Hi,
 >> > >>
 >> > >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
 >> > >>
 >> > >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
 >> > version) with
 >> > >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris.
So if I
 >> > am able
 >> > >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with
Wayland, I will
 >> > be able
 >> > >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an
 >> Android
 >> > kernel
 >> > >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
 >> > possibility to
 >> > >> install Android apps ?
 >> > >>
 >> > >> Best regards
 >> > >>
 >> > >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
 >> > >>> Hi,
 >> > >>>
 >> > >>> I'm very in

Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[E.S. Rosenberg]

You realize the keyboard doesn't need to be attached while it's in your
pocket? Only while you're typing and while you type its' not covering the
lens

2015-04-09 11:27 GMT+03:00 :

> I'm aware of this product, but I don't like how it is done.
> The main issue of this keyboard is that it masks the camera. So I can't
> take quickly a picture, I have to remove in first the keyboard. With this
> TOHKBD, we can't have an other one : it's either a keyboard or something
> else. So this smartphone is just like all the others with a physical
> keyboard, but less interesting because of the camera issue. And finally,
> I'm not convinced by the magnets. I rather prefer a true slider keyboard.
>
> The main interest of this design could have been the possibility to slide
> out only the directional pad with the smartphone in portrait mode, for
> allowing users to control there smartphone with it (in case they have
> gloves for example).
>
> So for the moment, for me, the Jolla phone with TOHKBD is not interesting.
>
> > The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if it
> > will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
> >
> > (But right now you can still pre-order here:
> >
> http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
> > )
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eli
> >
> > 2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre  >:
> >
> >> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
> >> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
> >> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
> >> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
> >> Galaxy Golden.
> >> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
> >> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
> >>
> >> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
> >> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
> >> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
> >> environment
> >> > which implies an Android kernel.
> >> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I
> >> wanted
> >> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android
> >> phone
> >> with
> >> > a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
> >> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
> >> >
> >> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> >> > > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
> >> > manager. It
> >> > > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using
> >> libhybris.
> >> > > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace
> >> Jolla
> >> > > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> >> > > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
> >> > someone will
> >> > > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing
> >> aliendalvik
> >> for
> >> > > non-Jolla devices.
> >> > >
> >> > > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
> >> > >> Hi,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
> >> > >>
> >> > >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
> >> > version) with
> >> > >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
> >> > am able
> >> > >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
> >> > be able
> >> > >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an
> >> Android
> >> > kernel
> >> > >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
> >> > possibility to
> >> > >> install Android apps ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Best regards
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> >> > >>> Hi,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
> >> > interrested
> >> > >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with
> >> a
> >> TI
> >> > >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
> >> > mono-core)
> >> > >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you
> >> think
> >> > >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support
> >> the
> >> > >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> >> > >>>
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> >> > >>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[schifano]

I'm aware of this product, but I don't like how it is done.
The main issue of this keyboard is that it masks the camera. So I can't
take quickly a picture, I have to remove in first the keyboard. With this
TOHKBD, we can't have an other one : it's either a keyboard or something
else. So this smartphone is just like all the others with a physical
keyboard, but less interesting because of the camera issue. And finally,
I'm not convinced by the magnets. I rather prefer a true slider keyboard.

The main interest of this design could have been the possibility to slide
out only the directional pad with the smartphone in portrait mode, for
allowing users to control there smartphone with it (in case they have
gloves for example).

So for the moment, for me, the Jolla phone with TOHKBD is not interesting.

> The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if it
> will be available to people who didn't pre-order...
>
> (But right now you can still pre-order here:
> http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
> )
>
> Regards,
> Eli
>
> 2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre :
>
>> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
>> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
>> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
>> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
>> Galaxy Golden.
>> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
>> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
>>
>> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
>> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
>> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
>> environment
>> > which implies an Android kernel.
>> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I
>> wanted
>> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android
>> phone
>> with
>> > a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
>> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
>> >
>> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
>> >
>> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
>> > > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
>> > manager. It
>> > > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using
>> libhybris.
>> > > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace
>> Jolla
>> > > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
>> > > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
>> > someone will
>> > > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing
>> aliendalvik
>> for
>> > > non-Jolla devices.
>> > >
>> > > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
>> > >>
>> > >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
>> > version) with
>> > >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
>> > am able
>> > >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
>> > be able
>> > >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an
>> Android
>> > kernel
>> > >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
>> > possibility to
>> > >> install Android apps ?
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards
>> > >>
>> > >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
>> > >>> Hi,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
>> > interrested
>> > >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with
>> a
>> TI
>> > >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
>> > mono-core)
>> > >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you
>> think
>> > >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support
>> the
>> > >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>> Alexandre Schifano
>> > >>> ___
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Marcin Mielniczuk]

Schifano: and what about Android apps on N900? There was a project, now dead, 
aiming to bring them to N900 via chroot (driven by lexik) but went not far from 
the theoretical stage. There are some clues though about the needed kernel 
modules and some posts about the partial progress. It's a good point to start.

I'm sure you would find a couple of people to help if you ask explicitly. If 
you want some more details, let me know. Maybe you'll be the one who'll bring 
us the Android apps?

Regards,

-- 
Ex mea Nokia N900 missum
Marcin

On Thu Apr   9 00:27:38 2015 Schifano Alexandre  
wrote:
> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
> Galaxy Golden.
> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
> 
> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>> wrote:
> > 
> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android environment
> > which implies an Android kernel.
> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I wanted
> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone
> > with a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
> > 
> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
> > 
> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
> > manager. It
> > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
> > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
> > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
> > someone will
> > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
> > non-Jolla devices.
> > 
> > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
> > 
> > As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
> > version) with
> > the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
> > am able
> > to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
> > be able
> > to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android
> > kernel
> > and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
> > possibility to
> > install Android apps ?
> > 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
> > interrested
> > by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> > DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
> > mono-core)
> > and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> > Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> > Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Nicolas CARTRON]

Hi Alexandre,

On 04/09/2015 12:27 AM, Schifano Alexandre wrote:

It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
Galaxy Golden.
But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)

Well, the Jolla community has done it!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla

Shipping in Q2, waiting for mine actually =)

Cheers,

--
Nicolas.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[E.S. Rosenberg]

The TOHKBD promises to be a very good add-on, though I don't know if it
will be available to people who didn't pre-order...

(But right now you can still pre-order here:
http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090
)

Regards,
Eli

2015-04-09 1:27 GMT+03:00 Schifano Alexandre :

> It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
> physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
> are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
> You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
> Galaxy Golden.
> But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
> one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)
>
> On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
> > Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
> > mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android
> environment
> > which implies an Android kernel.
> > I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I
> wanted
> > to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone
> with
> > a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
> > possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
> >
> > Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
> >
> > On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> > > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
> > manager. It
> > > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
> > > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
> > > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> > > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
> > someone will
> > > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik
> for
> > > non-Jolla devices.
> > >
> > > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
> > >>
> > >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
> > version) with
> > >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
> > am able
> > >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
> > be able
> > >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android
> > kernel
> > >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
> > possibility to
> > >> install Android apps ?
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
> > interrested
> > >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a
> TI
> > >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
> > mono-core)
> > >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you
> think
> > >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support
> the
> > >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>> Alexandre Schifano
> > >>> ___
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

It depends of what you mean by "good", and what do you expect as
physical keyboard. You can find two or three year-old smartphones which
are fine, with physical keyboard, but no ubber processors and no 4G.
You can also find on the Chinese market smartphones like the Samsung
Galaxy Golden.
But of course the best smartphone with a physical keyboard will be the
one which Jolla will make ;) (if Jolla will do it one day ...)

On 08/04/2015 23:41, Brenda Fernández wrote:
> Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)
> 
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre
> mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android environment
> which implies an Android kernel.
> I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I wanted
> to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone with
> a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
> possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
> 
> Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
> 
> On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows
> manager. It
> > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
> > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
> > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> > You will not have possibility to install android apps until
> someone will
> > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
> > non-Jolla devices.
> >
> > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
> >>
> >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland
> version) with
> >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I
> am able
> >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will
> be able
> >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android
> kernel
> >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the
> possibility to
> >> install Android apps ?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
> interrested
> >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
> mono-core)
> >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Brenda Fernández]

Are there still good Android phones with physical keyboards? ;)

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Schifano Alexandre <
schif...@polytech.unice.fr> wrote:

> Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android environment
> which implies an Android kernel.
> I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I wanted
> to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone with
> a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
> possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.
>
> Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.
>
> On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> > Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows manager. It
> > runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
> > If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
> > repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> > You will not have possibility to install android apps until someone will
> > create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
> > non-Jolla devices.
> >
> > 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
> >>
> >> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland version) with
> >> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I am able
> >> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will be able
> >> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android kernel
> >> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the possibility to
> >> install Android apps ?
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
> >>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> >>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
> >>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> >>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> >>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

Oh, I assumed you install Android app in a chrooted Android environment
which implies an Android kernel.
I confess than I'm a bit disapointed to discover this, because I wanted
to install Sailfish either on the Neo900 or on a good Android phone with
a physical keyboard for having an interresting OS/device with the
possibility to install Android apps when there is not equivalent.

Thank you, now I have a better understanding of how it works.

On 06/04/2015 14:54, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows manager. It
> runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
> If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla
> repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
> You will not have possibility to install android apps until someone will
> create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for
> non-Jolla devices.
> 
> 06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :
>>
>> As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland version) with
>> the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I am able
>> to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will be able
>> to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android kernel
>> and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the possibility to
>> install Android apps ?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
>>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
>>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
>>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
>>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
>>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

Sailfish is Jolla UI over Mer with Wayland Lipstick windows manager. It 
runs on normal Linux kernel. Android adaptations using libhybris.
If you can run Nemo on your device you can just add/replace Jolla 
repositories and "install" sailfish on it.
You will not have possibility to install android apps until someone will 
create open android launcher or Jolla start licensing aliendalvik for 
non-Jolla devices.


06.04.2015 17:48, Schifano Alexandre пишет:

Hi,

Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :

As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland version) with
the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I am able
to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will be able
to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android kernel
and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the possibility to
install Android apps ?

Best regards

On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:

Hi,

I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?

Best regards,
Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

Hi,

Still about a Neo900 support, I have an other question :

As far as I understand, basically Sailfish is Mer (Wayland version) with
the Jolla UI, and with an Android kernel and libhybris. So if I am able
to have Nemo running rightly on a N(eo)900 with Wayland, I will be able
to run Sailfish apps ? And if I am able to do it with an Android kernel
and libhybris, I will be able to have it working with the possibility to
install Android apps ?

Best regards

On 05/04/2015 08:12, Schifano Alexandre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

Oh I see :(. However I saw an unofficial port of Salfish from Jolla to
the N900, and the Neo900 will be fully compatible with N900 software, so
I hoped Jolla could do an other port for the Neo900.
And since the UI is closed source, how can I do the port by myself ? And
will it run smoothly on a mono-core smartphone ?

On 05/04/2015 15:23, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:
> You should make sailfishos port to your Neo900 yourself or just wait
> until someone will do it for themselves. Jolla not making own
> adaptations to any devices, only giving assistance.
> 
> 05.04.2015 11:12, Schifano Alexandre пишет:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

I think it's fine, the N900 resistive screen seems to be enougth
accurate for gestures. It is mor accurate than other smartphones with
resistive screens.

On 05/04/2015 14:59, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> Though on the one hand I would also love to give my n900 another lease
> on life it seems to me that sailfish and/or meego would not work very
> well on the n900 or the neo900 since the resistive touch screen used
> would make all the gestures as pretty major pain in the backside to
> use (even though I tend to agree with the argument that resistive
> touch has the potential to be better, and for certain use cases is
> definitely better I have yet to see a real product that uses superior
> resistive touch technology - stantum showed impressive prototypes 5-6
> years ago, but I never saw it in a real product).
> 
> Regards,
> Eli
> 
> 2015-04-05 9:18 GMT+03:00 Brenda Fernández  >:
> 
> I'm not very convinced the Neo900 will ever become a reality. :(
> 
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Schifano Alexandre
> mailto:schif...@polytech.unice.fr>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very
> interrested
> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions,
> mono-core)
> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Andrey Kozhevnikov]

You should make sailfishos port to your Neo900 yourself or just wait 
until someone will do it for themselves. Jolla not making own 
adaptations to any devices, only giving assistance.


05.04.2015 11:12, Schifano Alexandre пишет:

Hi,

I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?

Best regards,
Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[E.S. Rosenberg]

Though on the one hand I would also love to give my n900 another lease on
life it seems to me that sailfish and/or meego would not work very well on
the n900 or the neo900 since the resistive touch screen used would make all
the gestures as pretty major pain in the backside to use (even though I
tend to agree with the argument that resistive touch has the potential to
be better, and for certain use cases is definitely better I have yet to see
a real product that uses superior resistive touch technology - stantum
showed impressive prototypes 5-6 years ago, but I never saw it in a real
product).

Regards,
Eli

2015-04-05 9:18 GMT+03:00 Brenda Fernández :

> I'm not very convinced the Neo900 will ever become a reality. :(
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Schifano Alexandre <
> schif...@polytech.unice.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
>> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
>> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
>> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
>> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
>> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alexandre Schifano
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Brenda Fernández]

I'm not very convinced the Neo900 will ever become a reality. :(

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Schifano Alexandre <
schif...@polytech.unice.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
> by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
> DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
> and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
> Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
> Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?
>
> Best regards,
> Alexandre Schifano
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[SailfishDevel] Neo900 support

[Schifano Alexandre]

Hi,

I'm very interrested by Sailfish OS, however I'm also very interrested
by the Neo900. This smartphone is a modified Nokia N900, with a TI
DM3730 1 GHz processor (Cortex-A8 with ARMv7-A instructions, mono-core)
and 1GB of RAM (more here : http://neo900.org/specs). Do you think
Sailfish will be able to run smoothly on it ? Will you support the
Neo900 and allowing users to install your OS on it ?

Best regards,
Alexandre Schifano
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