Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-04 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
In this case jolla should create some community wiki, or at least 
merproject wiki can be used for this.


04.06.2015 21:24, François K. пишет:

Hi !

Thanks for your efforts. This is really great, especially for beginners (like 
me !).

I have another suggestion : would it be possible to open the documentation to 
community ?
I think a few people here could easily provide some good how-tos and explanations about 
different subjects. Someone at Jolla would just have to review it before 
publishing it.

For example, right now, Lucien (aka SfietKonstantin) is giving some great explanations on 
IRC about How to consume data from the Internet. That's something a lot of 
people might be interested in.

Cheers,



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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-04 Thread David Greaves
Yep - feel free to use the Mer wiki - it is available for all 
communities based on Mer.


David

On 04/06/15 17:41, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote:

In this case jolla should create some community wiki, or at least
merproject wiki can be used for this.

04.06.2015 21:24, François K. пишет:

Hi !

Thanks for your efforts. This is really great, especially for
beginners (like me !).

I have another suggestion : would it be possible to open the
documentation to community ?
I think a few people here could easily provide some good how-tos and
explanations about different subjects. Someone at Jolla would just
have to review it before publishing it.

For example, right now, Lucien (aka SfietKonstantin) is giving some
great explanations on IRC about How to consume data from the
Internet. That's something a lot of people might be interested in.

Cheers,



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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-04 Thread François
I was more thinking about a centralized place. IMHO, having 2 places to check 
adds confusion, especially when you are new in the community.

I was thinking about a git repo with .md files. People who would want to 
contribute would just have to send a PR. If accepted, Jolla would just have 
to hook it to the website.

I have nothing against mer wiki, obviously :)

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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Riccardo Ferrazzo
You can add some documentation on how to ship an executable that links to 
shared libraries that are not part of the system. Also you can write something 
about how to create a “daemon” that runs in background.

 Il giorno 03/giu/2015, alle ore 12:15, Jussi Pakkanen 
 jussi.pakka...@jolla.com ha scritto:
 
 Hello all
 
 We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on 
 Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation. The 
 first one of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just been put on 
 the web site:
 
 https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/
 
 We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt 
 Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.
 
 If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
I suggest you to read official QMAKE documentation, and not asking Jolla 
devs to write it. Daemons are not allowed for Harbour at the moment, so 
very unlikely such article will appear in sailfishos docs.


03.06.2015 15:50, Riccardo Ferrazzo пишет:

You can add some documentation on how to ship an executable that links to 
shared libraries that are not part of the system. Also you can write something 
about how to create a “daemon” that runs in background.


Il giorno 03/giu/2015, alle ore 12:15, Jussi Pakkanen 
jussi.pakka...@jolla.com ha scritto:

Hello all

We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on Sailfish 
OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation. The first one 
of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just been put on the web 
site:

https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt 
Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.

If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.

Thanks

--
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SDK Lead developer
Jolla
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
IMHO it's not Sailfish-specific articles, and it should not be put in 
docs, but can be linked to official ones. qt.io have good documentation 
about built-in QTCreator debugger. Also as it linux you can debug app 
with gdb in terminal locally or remotely.


03.06.2015 15:23, Александр Крылков пишет:
Hi! It will be very helpful if you do documentation on how to debug 
applications for Sailfish OS properly. For example, I have some 
SIGSEGV signal in some parts of my application, but it hard to debug 
this types of problems.


On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jussi Pakkanen 
jussi.pakka...@jolla.com mailto:jussi.pakka...@jolla.com wrote:


Hello all

We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience
on Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new
documentation. The first one of these deals with combining Qml
with C++ and has just been put on the web site:

https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development
without Qt Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how
to do SDL apps.

If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.

Thanks

-- 
Jussi Pakkanen

SDK Lead developer
Jolla
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[SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Jussi Pakkanen

Hello all

We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on 
Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation. 
The first one of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just 
been put on the web site:


https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt 
Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.


If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.

Thanks

--
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SDK Lead developer
Jolla
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Александр Крылков
Hi! It will be very helpful if you do documentation on how to debug
applications for Sailfish OS properly. For example, I have some SIGSEGV
signal in some parts of my application, but it hard to debug this types of
problems.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jussi Pakkanen jussi.pakka...@jolla.com
wrote:

 Hello all

 We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on
 Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation.
 The first one of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just been
 put on the web site:

 https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

 We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt
 Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.

 If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.

 Thanks

 --
 Jussi Pakkanen
 SDK Lead developer
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Michael Fuchs



Am 03.06.2015 um 12:15 schrieb Jussi Pakkanen:

We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt
Creator for those of you who prefer other tools


Thanks a lot. Looking forward to this one.

greetz, Michael.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Luciano Montanaro
I personally use a mix of QtCreator and vim/commandline for
developing. Project setup in Qtcerator is convenient, as well as
deploying to the target, but I often fall back to my command line
habit.
What would help to have is a ferw more project templates, e.g.
for SDL projects, or for different build systems, for service accounts
or sharing plugins.

QMake is fine for the simple example projects, and I use it for them,
but CMake is better suited to larger projects, or where you want the
same software base to work on multiple platforms. Or simply, when
trying to port an existing CMake based project.

So tutorials and templates for these would be welcome as well.

Cheers
Luciano

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Michael Fuchs mic...@gmx.at wrote:


 Am 03.06.2015 um 12:15 schrieb Jussi Pakkanen:

 We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt
 Creator for those of you who prefer other tools


 Thanks a lot. Looking forward to this one.

 greetz, Michael.

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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

why? qmake is qmake. or there is some big changes since years?

03.06.2015 21:28, Tone Kastlunger пишет:
Although qmake information is scattered all over the place, and the 
most obscure one can be found only from old qt forums...it would be 
great to have them somewhere all together :)


On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov 
coderusin...@gmail.com mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com wrote:


I suggest you to read official QMAKE documentation, and not asking
Jolla devs to write it. Daemons are not allowed for Harbour at the
moment, so very unlikely such article will appear in sailfishos docs.

03.06.2015 15:50, Riccardo Ferrazzo пишет:

You can add some documentation on how to ship an executable
that links to shared libraries that are not part of the
system. Also you can write something about how to create a
“daemon” that runs in background.

Il giorno 03/giu/2015, alle ore 12:15, Jussi Pakkanen
jussi.pakka...@jolla.com
mailto:jussi.pakka...@jolla.com ha scritto:

Hello all

We have been looking into ways to improve the developer
experience on Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a
bunch of new documentation. The first one of these deals
with combining Qml with C++ and has just been put on the
web site:

https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do
development without Qt Creator for those of you who prefer
other tools and how to do SDL apps.

If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do
let us know.

Thanks

-- 
Jussi Pakkanen

SDK Lead developer
Jolla
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Tone Kastlunger
Although qmake information is scattered all over the place, and the most
obscure one can be found only from old qt forums...it would be great to
have them somewhere all together :)

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I suggest you to read official QMAKE documentation, and not asking Jolla
 devs to write it. Daemons are not allowed for Harbour at the moment, so
 very unlikely such article will appear in sailfishos docs.

 03.06.2015 15:50, Riccardo Ferrazzo пишет:

  You can add some documentation on how to ship an executable that links to
 shared libraries that are not part of the system. Also you can write
 something about how to create a “daemon” that runs in background.

  Il giorno 03/giu/2015, alle ore 12:15, Jussi Pakkanen 
 jussi.pakka...@jolla.com ha scritto:

 Hello all

 We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on
 Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation.
 The first one of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just been
 put on the web site:

 https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/

 We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt
 Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.

 If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.

 Thanks

 --
 Jussi Pakkanen
 SDK Lead developer
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Re: [SailfishDevel] New documentation on sailfishos.org

2015-06-03 Thread Giuliettasw
Big changes? Not that i know of, as said most of the more useful stuff is 
indeed very obscure sometimes. This is the info that should be more easily 
accessible imo

Von meinem iPad gesendet

 Am 03.06.2015 um 19:41 schrieb Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
 
 why? qmake is qmake. or there is some big changes since years?
 
 03.06.2015 21:28, Tone Kastlunger пишет:
 Although qmake information is scattered all over the place, and the most 
 obscure one can be found only from old qt forums...it would be great to have 
 them somewhere all together :)
 
 On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I suggest you to read official QMAKE documentation, and not asking Jolla 
 devs to write it. Daemons are not allowed for Harbour at the moment, so 
 very unlikely such article will appear in sailfishos docs.
 
 03.06.2015 15:50, Riccardo Ferrazzo пишет:
 
 You can add some documentation on how to ship an executable that links to 
 shared libraries that are not part of the system. Also you can write 
 something about how to create a “daemon” that runs in background.
 
 Il giorno 03/giu/2015, alle ore 12:15, Jussi Pakkanen 
 jussi.pakka...@jolla.com ha scritto:
 
 Hello all
 
 We have been looking into ways to improve the developer experience on 
 Sailfish OS. This has lead into developing a bunch of new documentation. 
 The first one of these deals with combining Qml with C++ and has just 
 been put on the web site:
 
 https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/combining-c-with-qml/
 
 We have a few others in the pipeline on how to do development without Qt 
 Creator for those of you who prefer other tools and how to do SDL apps.
 
 If there are other areas you would like tutorials on, do let us know.
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Jussi Pakkanen
 SDK Lead developer
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