Re: [riot-devel] WDT questions
Hi, very simple: A watchdog timer does not at all fit into the context of a tickless-system. We want to sleep as long as possible, so waking up just to please the WDT is very counter productive... A WDT interface we could actually introduce, I guess just nobody did it so far... Cheers, Hauke On 29.04.2015 14:43, Baptiste Clenet wrote: Hi, I've got two questions concerning WDT: - Why do we disable it on the samr21 at launch time? - Why doesn't RIOT provide a wdt.h in drivers/include/periph? Cheers, -- /Clenet Baptiste / / / ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [riot-devel] WDT questions
It has to do with the difficulty of providing a reliable way of poking the watchdog in an event driven, tickless, system such as RIOT. Maybe it is time to start discussing a watchdog api? In order to get any traction within industry applications I believe it will be necessary to at least provide an api for applications to use the watchdog. Best regards, Joakim Gebart Eistec AB www.eistec.se On Apr 29, 2015 2:43 PM, Baptiste Clenet bapcle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've got two questions concerning WDT: - Why do we disable it on the samr21 at launch time? - Why doesn't RIOT provide a wdt.h in drivers/include/periph? Cheers, -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[riot-devel] WDT questions
Hi, I've got two questions concerning WDT: - Why do we disable it on the samr21 at launch time? - Why doesn't RIOT provide a wdt.h in drivers/include/periph? Cheers, -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[riot-devel] NTSF: FIB status and future plans
Hi all, unfortunately I cannot attend the NTSF meeting tomorrow :( So I hacked some words on the current status and the future palns of the FIB on a wiki page [1]. Best regards, Martin [1] https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/NSTF:-FIB-Status-and-future-plans ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [riot-devel] WDT questions
Thanks for your explanations. I understand why it is counter productive. But how RIOT will make sure that the board is not stuck in a deadlock? This is mandatory for industrial context. Cheers, 2015-04-29 15:07 GMT+02:00 Joakim Gebart joakim.geb...@eistec.se: It has to do with the difficulty of providing a reliable way of poking the watchdog in an event driven, tickless, system such as RIOT. Maybe it is time to start discussing a watchdog api? In order to get any traction within industry applications I believe it will be necessary to at least provide an api for applications to use the watchdog. Best regards, Joakim Gebart Eistec AB www.eistec.se On Apr 29, 2015 2:43 PM, Baptiste Clenet bapcle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've got two questions concerning WDT: - Why do we disable it on the samr21 at launch time? - Why doesn't RIOT provide a wdt.h in drivers/include/periph? Cheers, -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [riot-devel] WDT questions
An idea: Create a multi-channel software watchdog that in turn pokes the hardware watchdog when all parameters are met. We could configure different timeouts for different channels and each critical process can have its own channel(s) which they update independently. Some risks of this approach is that it will be possible for software errors to make the software watchdog misbehave and poke the hardware watchdog and keep the system running when it should be reset. Best regards, Joakim Thanks for your explanations. I understand why it is counter productive. But how RIOT will make sure that the board is not stuck in a deadlock? This is mandatory for industrial context. Cheers, 2015-04-29 15:07 GMT+02:00 Joakim Gebart joakim.geb...@eistec.se: It has to do with the difficulty of providing a reliable way of poking the watchdog in an event driven, tickless, system such as RIOT. Maybe it is time to start discussing a watchdog api? In order to get any traction within industry applications I believe it will be necessary to at least provide an api for applications to use the watchdog. Best regards, Joakim Gebart Eistec AB www.eistec.se On Apr 29, 2015 2:43 PM, Baptiste Clenet bapcle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've got two questions concerning WDT: - Why do we disable it on the samr21 at launch time? - Why doesn't RIOT provide a wdt.h in drivers/include/periph? Cheers, -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- *Clenet Baptiste* ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ devel mailing list devel@riot-os.org https://lists.riot-os.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
