Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-06 Thread Aaron Sowry
Hi Sebastian,

Nice! Great instructions btw - I can verify that after compiling and
installing the more recent kernel for Raspbian I am successfully
sniffing packets again. Thanks a lot for your help.

Regards,
Aaron

2016-06-07 0:26 GMT+12:00 smlng :
> Hi Aaron,
> Hi Alex,
>
> first I can confirm that with latest default Raspbian and Kernel 4.4.* I saw 
> nothing with wireshark, though the interface was up and running, no error in 
> dmesg or anything.
>
> However, I just compiled a Kernel v4.7.y following my guide in [1], and it 
> works! I sniffed traffic between another RasPi (1 B+) and some RIOT nodes and 
> was also able to ping the other RasPi.
>
> @Aaron: Could you test/verify this using the newer Kernel, thanks!
>
> Best
>   Sebastian
>
> [1]: 
> https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#4-new-linux-kernels-for-the-pi
>
>> Am 03.06.2016 um 12:01 schrieb Alexander Aring :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:30:16PM +1200, Aaron Sowry wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yeah I tried a few different speeds with no luck - according to the
>>> docs the default is now 3 MHz anyway. If I could at least get garbled
>>> packets *consistently* this would be a step in the right direction,
>>> but the fact that it's sporadic makes debugging things rather
>>> difficult...
>>>
>>
>> there was one guy @#linux-wpan channel which had similar issues on
>> RPi2 or RPi3? and he fixed it by using the mainline kernel _NOT_ rpi
>> kernel.
>>
>> I never used myself the rpi kernel for RPi2 so I can't say if this is
>> broken or not.
>>
>> Maybe you have the chance to build a recent mainline kernel from
>> kernel.org. I don't know the RPi3 support, fast googling result into
>> [0], which seems to be available at "git://git.kraxel.org/linux
>> bcm2837".
>>
>> - Alex
>>
>> [0] 
>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rpi-kernel/2016-June/003916.html
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-06 Thread smlng
Hi Aaron,
Hi Alex,

first I can confirm that with latest default Raspbian and Kernel 4.4.* I saw 
nothing with wireshark, though the interface was up and running, no error in 
dmesg or anything.

However, I just compiled a Kernel v4.7.y following my guide in [1], and it 
works! I sniffed traffic between another RasPi (1 B+) and some RIOT nodes and 
was also able to ping the other RasPi.

@Aaron: Could you test/verify this using the newer Kernel, thanks!

Best
  Sebastian

[1]: 
https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#4-new-linux-kernels-for-the-pi

> Am 03.06.2016 um 12:01 schrieb Alexander Aring :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:30:16PM +1200, Aaron Sowry wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yeah I tried a few different speeds with no luck - according to the
>> docs the default is now 3 MHz anyway. If I could at least get garbled
>> packets *consistently* this would be a step in the right direction,
>> but the fact that it's sporadic makes debugging things rather
>> difficult...
>> 
> 
> there was one guy @#linux-wpan channel which had similar issues on
> RPi2 or RPi3? and he fixed it by using the mainline kernel _NOT_ rpi
> kernel.
> 
> I never used myself the rpi kernel for RPi2 so I can't say if this is
> broken or not.
> 
> Maybe you have the chance to build a recent mainline kernel from
> kernel.org. I don't know the RPi3 support, fast googling result into
> [0], which seems to be available at "git://git.kraxel.org/linux
> bcm2837".
> 
> - Alex
> 
> [0] 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rpi-kernel/2016-June/003916.html
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread Alexander Aring
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:30:16PM +1200, Aaron Sowry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah I tried a few different speeds with no luck - according to the
> docs the default is now 3 MHz anyway. If I could at least get garbled
> packets *consistently* this would be a step in the right direction,
> but the fact that it's sporadic makes debugging things rather
> difficult...
> 

there was one guy @#linux-wpan channel which had similar issues on
RPi2 or RPi3? and he fixed it by using the mainline kernel _NOT_ rpi
kernel.

I never used myself the rpi kernel for RPi2 so I can't say if this is
broken or not.

Maybe you have the chance to build a recent mainline kernel from
kernel.org. I don't know the RPi3 support, fast googling result into
[0], which seems to be available at "git://git.kraxel.org/linux
bcm2837".

- Alex

[0] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-rpi-kernel/2016-June/003916.html
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread Aaron Sowry
Hi,

Yeah I tried a few different speeds with no luck - according to the
docs the default is now 3 MHz anyway. If I could at least get garbled
packets *consistently* this would be a step in the right direction,
but the fact that it's sporadic makes debugging things rather
difficult...

/Aaron

2016-06-03 21:17 GMT+12:00 smlng :
> Hi Aaron,
>
> you say you receive garbled packets? Sounds like an issue I also had, I fixed 
> it by lowering SPI speed from the default 5 or 6 MHz to 3 MHz, however I 
> thought the latter is now default anyway (@Alex?). I have to look it up, but 
> may you can try some other values like 1 or 2 MHz?
>
> So edit `/boot/config.txt` setting `dtoverlay=at86rf233,speed=100` and 
> reboot.
>
> Cheers,
>   Sebastian
>
>> Am 03.06.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
>>
>> Hi Sebastian, Alexander,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I'm using the latest Raspbian which already
>> has the relevant DTS overlay and kernel features available. Basically
>> all I've done is add/uncomment the following lines in
>> /boot/config.txt, and reboot:
>>
>> dtoverlay=at86rf233
>> dtparam=spi=on
>>
>> I then set up the monitor interface (after compiling wpan-tools) with:
>>
>> sudo iwpan phy phy0 interface add monitor0 type monitor
>> sudo ip link set monitor0 up
>> sudo iwpan phy phy0 set channel 0 
>>
>> This was sufficient on the RPi 2 for running wireshark against
>> monitor0. I am getting some very strange behaviour now where maybe
>> once every 5 or 6 reboots the radio suddenly starts producing garbage
>> data whenever a packet is received, but rebooting results in the radio
>> going silent again. I've tried different SPI speeds, different
>> channels, different at86rf233 chips, even disabled the other two
>> radios (bluetooth and 802.11) to eliminate possible sources of
>> interference, but I'm left scratching my head. I wonder if my Pi is
>> faulty, or if there is some fundamental difference between v2 and
>> v3... it would be interesting to hear how you get on Sebastian!
>>
>> Alex - since I'm doing the channel setting after bringing the monitor0
>> interface up, I shouldn't be affected by that bug right? Note that the
>> automatically-created wpan0 interface never gets brought up.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Aaron
>>
>> 2016-06-03 19:32 GMT+12:00 smlng :
>>> Hey again,
>>>
>>> I forgot the pointer to [1]: 
>>> https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#31-transceiver-specific-device-tree-overlays
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>  Sebastian
>>>
 Am 03.06.2016 um 09:28 schrieb smlng :

 Hey Aaron,

> Am 03.06.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
>
> For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
> which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
> recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
> done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
> I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
> wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
> for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
> work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
> manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
> the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
> another RIOT node).
>
> So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
> anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
> raspbian?

 I personally use the RasPi as a border router and gateway with the
 openlabs transceiver. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to test
 with the new RasPi 3B, yet.

 This would be bad news, if my favorite setup isn't working with Pi3
 anymore. I just ordered a Pi3 myself and will start testing next week,
 I'll report back ASAP.

 I assume you use latest Raspbian-Linux, with standard Kernel 4.4 and
 DTS overlay [1] or a custom (self-compiled) Linux-Kernel based on
 bluetooth-next (btn) branch?

 Best,
 Sebastian

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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread smlng
Hi Aaron,

you say you receive garbled packets? Sounds like an issue I also had, I fixed 
it by lowering SPI speed from the default 5 or 6 MHz to 3 MHz, however I 
thought the latter is now default anyway (@Alex?). I have to look it up, but 
may you can try some other values like 1 or 2 MHz?

So edit `/boot/config.txt` setting `dtoverlay=at86rf233,speed=100` and 
reboot.

Cheers,
  Sebastian

> Am 03.06.2016 um 11:11 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
> 
> Hi Sebastian, Alexander,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I'm using the latest Raspbian which already
> has the relevant DTS overlay and kernel features available. Basically
> all I've done is add/uncomment the following lines in
> /boot/config.txt, and reboot:
> 
> dtoverlay=at86rf233
> dtparam=spi=on
> 
> I then set up the monitor interface (after compiling wpan-tools) with:
> 
> sudo iwpan phy phy0 interface add monitor0 type monitor
> sudo ip link set monitor0 up
> sudo iwpan phy phy0 set channel 0 
> 
> This was sufficient on the RPi 2 for running wireshark against
> monitor0. I am getting some very strange behaviour now where maybe
> once every 5 or 6 reboots the radio suddenly starts producing garbage
> data whenever a packet is received, but rebooting results in the radio
> going silent again. I've tried different SPI speeds, different
> channels, different at86rf233 chips, even disabled the other two
> radios (bluetooth and 802.11) to eliminate possible sources of
> interference, but I'm left scratching my head. I wonder if my Pi is
> faulty, or if there is some fundamental difference between v2 and
> v3... it would be interesting to hear how you get on Sebastian!
> 
> Alex - since I'm doing the channel setting after bringing the monitor0
> interface up, I shouldn't be affected by that bug right? Note that the
> automatically-created wpan0 interface never gets brought up.
> 
> Regards,
> Aaron
> 
> 2016-06-03 19:32 GMT+12:00 smlng :
>> Hey again,
>> 
>> I forgot the pointer to [1]: 
>> https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#31-transceiver-specific-device-tree-overlays
>> 
>> Best,
>>  Sebastian
>> 
>>> Am 03.06.2016 um 09:28 schrieb smlng :
>>> 
>>> Hey Aaron,
>>> 
 Am 03.06.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
 
 For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
 which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
 recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
 done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
 I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
 wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
 for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
 work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
 manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
 the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
 another RIOT node).
 
 So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
 anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
 raspbian?
>>> 
>>> I personally use the RasPi as a border router and gateway with the
>>> openlabs transceiver. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to test
>>> with the new RasPi 3B, yet.
>>> 
>>> This would be bad news, if my favorite setup isn't working with Pi3
>>> anymore. I just ordered a Pi3 myself and will start testing next week,
>>> I'll report back ASAP.
>>> 
>>> I assume you use latest Raspbian-Linux, with standard Kernel 4.4 and
>>> DTS overlay [1] or a custom (self-compiled) Linux-Kernel based on
>>> bluetooth-next (btn) branch?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Sebastian
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread Aaron Sowry
Hi Sebastian, Alexander,

Thanks for the feedback. I'm using the latest Raspbian which already
has the relevant DTS overlay and kernel features available. Basically
all I've done is add/uncomment the following lines in
/boot/config.txt, and reboot:

dtoverlay=at86rf233
dtparam=spi=on

I then set up the monitor interface (after compiling wpan-tools) with:

sudo iwpan phy phy0 interface add monitor0 type monitor
sudo ip link set monitor0 up
sudo iwpan phy phy0 set channel 0 

This was sufficient on the RPi 2 for running wireshark against
monitor0. I am getting some very strange behaviour now where maybe
once every 5 or 6 reboots the radio suddenly starts producing garbage
data whenever a packet is received, but rebooting results in the radio
going silent again. I've tried different SPI speeds, different
channels, different at86rf233 chips, even disabled the other two
radios (bluetooth and 802.11) to eliminate possible sources of
interference, but I'm left scratching my head. I wonder if my Pi is
faulty, or if there is some fundamental difference between v2 and
v3... it would be interesting to hear how you get on Sebastian!

Alex - since I'm doing the channel setting after bringing the monitor0
interface up, I shouldn't be affected by that bug right? Note that the
automatically-created wpan0 interface never gets brought up.

Regards,
Aaron

2016-06-03 19:32 GMT+12:00 smlng :
> Hey again,
>
> I forgot the pointer to [1]: 
> https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#31-transceiver-specific-device-tree-overlays
>
> Best,
>   Sebastian
>
>> Am 03.06.2016 um 09:28 schrieb smlng :
>>
>> Hey Aaron,
>>
>>> Am 03.06.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
>>>
>>> For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
>>> which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
>>> recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
>>> done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
>>> I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
>>> wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
>>> for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
>>> work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
>>> manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
>>> the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
>>> another RIOT node).
>>>
>>> So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
>>> anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
>>> raspbian?
>>
>> I personally use the RasPi as a border router and gateway with the
>> openlabs transceiver. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to test
>> with the new RasPi 3B, yet.
>>
>> This would be bad news, if my favorite setup isn't working with Pi3
>> anymore. I just ordered a Pi3 myself and will start testing next week,
>> I'll report back ASAP.
>>
>> I assume you use latest Raspbian-Linux, with standard Kernel 4.4 and
>> DTS overlay [1] or a custom (self-compiled) Linux-Kernel based on
>> bluetooth-next (btn) branch?
>>
>> Best,
>>  Sebastian
>>
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread Alexander Aring
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:42:47AM +1200, Aaron Sowry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I know this doesn't have anything to do with RIOT in particular, but
> since I know some of you are using the radio in question I thought I'd
> ask here.
> 
> For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
> which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
> recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
> done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
> I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
> wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
> for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
> work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
> manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
> the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
> another RIOT node).
> 

Sounds like issue [0]. This patch was not sent back to stable since we
don't have any stable strategy, sorry.

Anyway the most workaround for this issue is to change the channel/page
when the wpan/monitor on the phy is "up" - then the phy doesn't go into
sleep state.

On RPi1 I never had such issue, but the RPi2/RPi3 seems to be faster and
then such race occur (Setting registers while sleeping - which does not
work on at86rf2xx). :-(

- Alex

[0] 
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/bluetooth/bluetooth-next.git/commit/drivers/net/ieee802154/at86rf230.c?id=60f5f5d3a106dc5385b39348d13b20b15ac9cbf9
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread smlng
Hey again,

I forgot the pointer to [1]: 
https://github.com/RIOT-Makers/wpan-raspbian/wiki/Create-a-generic-Raspbian-image-with-6LoWPAN-support#31-transceiver-specific-device-tree-overlays

Best,
  Sebastian

> Am 03.06.2016 um 09:28 schrieb smlng :
> 
> Hey Aaron,
> 
>> Am 03.06.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
>> 
>> For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
>> which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
>> recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
>> done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
>> I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
>> wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
>> for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
>> work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
>> manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
>> the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
>> another RIOT node).
>> 
>> So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
>> anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
>> raspbian?
> 
> I personally use the RasPi as a border router and gateway with the 
> openlabs transceiver. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to test 
> with the new RasPi 3B, yet. 
> 
> This would be bad news, if my favorite setup isn't working with Pi3 
> anymore. I just ordered a Pi3 myself and will start testing next week,
> I'll report back ASAP. 
> 
> I assume you use latest Raspbian-Linux, with standard Kernel 4.4 and
> DTS overlay [1] or a custom (self-compiled) Linux-Kernel based on 
> bluetooth-next (btn) branch?
> 
> Best,
>  Sebastian
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Re: [riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-03 Thread smlng
Hey Aaron,

> Am 03.06.2016 um 01:42 schrieb Aaron Sowry :
> 
> For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
> which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
> recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
> done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
> I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
> wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
> for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
> work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
> manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
> the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
> another RIOT node).
> 
> So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
> anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
> raspbian?

I personally use the RasPi as a border router and gateway with the 
openlabs transceiver. Unfortunately I haven't had the time to test 
with the new RasPi 3B, yet. 

This would be bad news, if my favorite setup isn't working with Pi3 
anymore. I just ordered a Pi3 myself and will start testing next week,
I'll report back ASAP. 

I assume you use latest Raspbian-Linux, with standard Kernel 4.4 and
DTS overlay [1] or a custom (self-compiled) Linux-Kernel based on 
bluetooth-next (btn) branch?

Best,
  Sebastian

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[riot-devel] Raspberry Pi 3 and packet sniffing

2016-06-02 Thread Aaron Sowry
Hi,

I know this doesn't have anything to do with RIOT in particular, but
since I know some of you are using the radio in question I thought I'd
ask here.

For testing I've been using a RPi 2 with Openlabs' 802.15.4 radio[1],
which was relatively easy to get working with Wireshark. The Pi
recently destroyed my SD card however, including all the config I'd
done to set it up, so I figured I'd start from scratch with an RPi 3.
I can't seem to get it working this time though, and I was just
wondering if anyone else had managed to use the RPi 3 with this radio
for packet sniffing? I can't think of any reason why it shouldn't
work, but although the radio is detected properly and is able to be
manipulated using 'iwpan', it never sees any packets (although I know
the packets are being sent correctly, because I can sniff them with
another RIOT node).

So, before I start blaming the hardware, I thought I'd ask - has
anyone else managed to do this successfully on the RPi 3 with
raspbian?

Cheers,
Aaron

[1] http://openlabs.co/store/Raspberry-Pi-802.15.4-radio
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