Re: -rpath not used under Linux

2004-01-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Martin MOKREJŠ wrote:
  I believe -Wl,-rpath,$(SHLIBDIRPATH) should be used on Linux and possibly
all Unix platforms.
It should be restricted to just those platforms using the GNU ld or similar
flags.  For Solaris, for instance, it should be -R $(SHLIBDIRPATH) instead.
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Re: -rpath not used under Linux

2004-01-07 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 08:00:27PM +0100, Mario Klebsch wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Am Mittwoch, 07.01.04 um 14:00 Uhr schrieb Martin MOKREJŠ:
>>   I believe -Wl,-rpath,$(SHLIBDIRPATH) should be used on Linux and 
>> possibly
>> all Unix platforms.
>
>Me too, in fact, I am convinced, this should be done. But this probably 
>is a religious issue.

It is done on most platforms that support this type of thing.

The Linux settings (in lnxLib.rules) are:

#  if LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion >= 26
#   ifdef UseInstalled
#if LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion < 27
# define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,-rpath-link,$(USRLIBDIRPATH)
#endif
#   else
#define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,-rpath-link,$(BUILDLIBDIR)  <===
#   endif
#  else
#   define ExtraLoadFlags -Wl,-rpath,$(USRLIBDIRPATH)
#  endif

LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion is somewhat mis-named.  For binutils versions x.y.z,

  LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion = x * 10 + yx < 2 || (x == 2 && y <= 9)
  LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion = x * 100 + y   otherwise

I don't know why ExtraLoadFlags is set this way.  The setting I've marked
with "<===" is what gets used on any modern Linux.  If it is a religious
issue, it's not an XFree86 religious issue, but probably a Linux one
:-).  Or maybe it is just an oversight.

What I am most curious about is why the original reporter is seeing a
problem and most others apparently do not.  I never have, providing I
re-run ldconfig after installing new libraries (and I never use
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which I agree is not a solution).

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Re: xfree86/etc installed files

2004-01-07 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 03:24:37AM +1100, Tyler Retzlaff wrote:
>In xfree86/etc sun.termcap and sun.terminfo files are installed for
>non SunArchitecture.  What purpose do these serve if any?  Or are they
>relics that have been carried along ~forever?

Most people probably don't need them these days.  It requires manual
intervention to make use of them anyway.  They are terminal descriptions
for the OpenWindows terminal apps.

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC2 xf86cfg Solaris build failure

2004-01-07 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 10:32:38AM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> The inclusion of Xos.h in xf86cfg/config.h causes a conflict with the
>> inclusion of strings.h on Solaris 2.5.1 x86:
>
>> making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg...
>> rm -f accessx.o
>> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -DNO_ASM -Wall -Wpointer-arith  -ansi
>> -pedantic   -I../common -I../scanpci -I../loader
>> -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support
>> -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/include
>> -I../../../../../exports/include/X11
>> -I../../../../../lib/font/include  -I../../../../..
>> -I../../../../../exports/include   -Dsun -Di386 -DSVR4 -D__EXTENSIONS__
>> -D__i386 -DXF86CONFIG=\"XF86Config\" -DUSE_MODULES
>> -DPROJECT_ROOT=\"/usr/X11R6\"-DXF86CONFIGDIR
>> =\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11\"accessx.c
>> In file included from config.h:42,
>>  from accessx.c:32:
>> /usr/include/strings.h:27: parse error before `('
>> /usr/include/strings.h:28: parse error before `('
>> *** Error code 1
>> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `accessx.o'
>> Current working directory
>> /proj3/ere/work/lindsayh/XFree86/RC2/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg
>
>> Is the following patch the correct solution, or should the conditional
>> inclusion of strings.h be moved into Xos.h as well (I notice there was one
>> added for SCO325)?
>
>> *** programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.h.orig   Fri Dec 19 14:48:40
>> 2003
>> --- programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.hWed Jan  7 09:48:01
>> 2004
>> ***
>> *** 38,46 
>>   #include 
>>   #include 
>>   #include 
>> - #if defined(sun) && defined(SVR4)
>> - #include 
>> - #endif
>>
>>   #include 
>>
>> --- 38,43 
>
>I agree changing Xos.h is probably the better fix, but it might break
>something elsewhere.  For 4.4, I think it's sufficient to simply #undef
>index & rindex before the #include  here.

Is  needed here for Solaris?  I didn't find it necessary for
the Solaris builds I've tried.

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Driver for CT69030 for rendering YUV data.

2004-01-07 Thread Karthikeyan Somanathan
Hi,
i'm writing a driver for CT69030 VGA controller to render YUV
data. I'm not sure of the format in which YUV data should be written
onto the framebuffer. And what should be the bits per pixel setting? Can
anybody help me out on this. 

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Re: afb and vesa driver

2004-01-07 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:56:57AM +0900, Bang Jun-Young wrote:
>Hi,
>
>The current vesa driver has hardcoded dependency on afb. As a result,
>removing afb/ from the tree (and support for it as well) causes vesa
>build to fail. The following patch fixes it:

More is needed (Imakefile and vesa.c need changes too).  Can you send the
rest of it?

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afb and vesa driver

2004-01-07 Thread Bang Jun-Young
Hi,

The current vesa driver has hardcoded dependency on afb. As a result,
removing afb/ from the tree (and support for it as well) causes vesa
build to fail. The following patch fixes it:

Index: vesa.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/vesa/vesa.h,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 vesa.h
--- vesa.h  16 Jan 2003 16:09:10 -  1.14
+++ vesa.h  8 Jan 2004 01:49:22 -

Index: vesa.h
===
RCS file: /cvs/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/vesa/vesa.h,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 vesa.h
--- vesa.h  16 Jan 2003 16:09:10 -  1.14
+++ vesa.h  8 Jan 2004 01:49:22 -
@@ -73,7 +73,9 @@
 #include "xf1bpp.h"
 #include "xf4bpp.h"
 #include "fb.h"
+#ifdef USE_AFB
 #include "afb.h"
+#endif
 #include "mfb.h"
 #include "cfb24_32.h"
 
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NebulaSearch.com Encyclopedia article about "Group X"

2004-01-07 Thread Bryan Johnston
  The editors at NebulaSearch.com have added a reference link to your page 
http://www.xfree86.org/ in our encyclopedia article "Group X" which can be found at 
http://www.nebulasearch.com/encyclopedia/article/Group_X.html. We'd be happy if you'd 
like to link back, but understand if you'd prefer not to. 

Best,

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Re: bad scancode for USB keyboard

2004-01-07 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Vojtech Pavlik wrote:
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:27:42AM +0100, Bernardo Innocenti wrote:

I have the same problem with a Logitech cordless desktop.
I can easily change the keycode to generate the right characters when in 
console-mode, but XFree gives that key and the Print Screen key the same 
keycode.
After changing the xmodmap I can get the unmodified character, 
but modifiers doesn't work, it just gives me the same character not 
matter what modifier I use (shift, alt, alt_gr etc.)
I had fixed my console keymap too, but I've not been able to
figure out how to change the X keymap.  I've been looking in
the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/ directory, but perhaps XKB is not
being used for old-style keyboard mapping?
Could you provide detailed instructions?  C coding with missing
backslash and bar keys is quite hard :-)
Of course, I still thing its' a 2.6 kernel bug and it should be
fixed.  Vojtech, do you have an idea why it's happening?
The reason is that this key is not the ordinary backslash-bar key, it's
the so-called 103rd key on some european keyboards. It generates a
different scancode.
Yes, I've found out it's 84 for the key besides/below the enter key.

2.4 used the same keycode for both the scancodes, 2.6 does not, so that
it's possible to differentiate between the keys on keyboards that have
both this one and also the standard backslash-bar.
I see...  So it appears the fix has to be done in the kbd package and in
XFree86.
The default console keymap should be changed like this:

< keycode  84 = Last_Console
> keycode  84 = backslashbar
Andries Brouwer appears to be the current maintainer of kbd, so I've
pulled him into our thread.  This is also being cross-postied to
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In addition, I'm going to open two PRs for these packages in RedHat's
bugzilla to make sure the issue gets properly fixed before it hits the
masses.
fyi, this thread was started here:

 http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0401.0/0485.html

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Re: -rpath not used under Linux

2004-01-07 Thread Mario Klebsch
Hi!

Am Mittwoch, 07.01.04 um 14:00 Uhr schrieb Martin MOKREJŠ:
  I believe -Wl,-rpath,$(SHLIBDIRPATH) should be used on Linux and 
possibly
all Unix platforms.
Me too, in fact, I am convinced, this should be done. But this probably 
is a religious issue.


Running ldconfig did not help on my system but
LD_LIBRARY_PATH did. But, that's not a solution, because 
/etc/init.d/xdm
forks other shellscript and that somehow ignored *exported*
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
LD_LIBRARY_PATH is is drooped of the environment for security reasons, 
whenever an SUID executable is exec()ed. This could be your problem.

  I simply don't see a reason to omit -rpath from linker commandline. 
The
Target installation prefix is known, so what ...

  Second, the documentation should be updated and explain where is one
supposed to put specifiv CFLAGS, LDFLAGS etc. At least, if editing
config/cf/Imake.tmpl is the right way or hack.
What about site.def? It was mentioned in the documentation for ages, 
did anybody remove it?

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC2 xf86cfg Solaris build failure

2004-01-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Marc Aurele La France wrote:
I agree changing Xos.h is probably the better fix, but it might break
something elsewhere.  For 4.4, I think it's sufficient to simply #undef
index & rindex before the #include  here.
The Xos.h we currently ship on Solaris does something very similar:

#if (defined(sun) && defined(SVR4)) /* Solaris */
#undef index
#undef rindex
#undef bcmp
#undef bcopy
#undef bzero
#include 
#ifndef __cplusplus
#ifndef index
#define index strchr
#endif
#ifndef rindex
#define rindex strrchr
#endif
#endif
Redefining the functions as macros is simply a small performance
boost, since the Solaris libc index/rindex functions just call the
strchr/strrchr functions, so we save an extra function call.
Our Xfuncs.h currently just does #include  on Solaris,
which provides both the ANSI & BSD function sets.
Of course, that's all on Solaris 9 and later - I haven't tried on 2.5.1
lately.
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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC2 xf86cfg Solaris build failure

2004-01-07 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Marc Aurele La France wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > The inclusion of Xos.h in xf86cfg/config.h causes a conflict with the
> > inclusion of strings.h on Solaris 2.5.1 x86:

> > making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg...
> > rm -f accessx.o
> > gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -DNO_ASM -Wall -Wpointer-arith  -ansi
> > -pedantic   -I../common -I../scanpci -I../loader
> > -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support
> > -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/include
> > -I../../../../../exports/include/X11
> > -I../../../../../lib/font/include  -I../../../../..
> > -I../../../../../exports/include   -Dsun -Di386 -DSVR4 -D__EXTENSIONS__
> > -D__i386 -DXF86CONFIG=\"XF86Config\" -DUSE_MODULES
> > -DPROJECT_ROOT=\"/usr/X11R6\"-DXF86CONFIGDIR
> > =\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11\"accessx.c
> > In file included from config.h:42,
> >  from accessx.c:32:
> > /usr/include/strings.h:27: parse error before `('
> > /usr/include/strings.h:28: parse error before `('
> > *** Error code 1
> > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `accessx.o'
> > Current working directory
> > /proj3/ere/work/lindsayh/XFree86/RC2/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg

> > Is the following patch the correct solution, or should the conditional
> > inclusion of strings.h be moved into Xos.h as well (I notice there was one
> > added for SCO325)?

> > *** programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.h.orig   Fri Dec 19 14:48:40
> > 2003
> > --- programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.hWed Jan  7 09:48:01
> > 2004
> > ***
> > *** 38,46 
> >   #include 
> >   #include 
> >   #include 
> > - #if defined(sun) && defined(SVR4)
> > - #include 
> > - #endif
> >
> >   #include 
> >
> > --- 38,43 

> I agree changing Xos.h is probably the better fix, but it might break
> something elsewhere.  For 4.4, I think it's sufficient to simply #undef
> index & rindex before the #include  here.

... which, it turns out, is what is currently in CVS.

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cvs hangs at "xc/workInProgress/xsm" ...

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Chua
I've been having trouble download XFree86 using cvs. It started happening
few days ago, and always hang at "xc/workInProgress/xsm" ...

...
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/lib
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/lib/Xtst
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs/Xserver
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs/Xserver/Xext
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/xsm



Here're the commands I typed ...

export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
cvs login
cvs checkout modules
cvs checkout xc


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cvs "hang" at xc/workInProgress/xsm

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Chua
I've been having trouble download XFree86 using cvs. It started happening
few days ago, and always hang at "xc/workInProgress/xsm" ...

...
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/lib
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/lib/Xtst
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs/Xserver
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/record/programs/Xserver/Xext
cvs server: Updating xc/workInProgress/xsm



Here're the commands I typed ...

export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
cvs login
cvs checkout modules
cvs checkout xc


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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC2 xf86cfg Solaris build failure

2004-01-07 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The inclusion of Xos.h in xf86cfg/config.h causes a conflict with the
> inclusion of strings.h on Solaris 2.5.1 x86:

> making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg...
> rm -f accessx.o
> gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -DNO_ASM -Wall -Wpointer-arith  -ansi
> -pedantic   -I../common -I../scanpci -I../loader
> -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support
> -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/include
> -I../../../../../exports/include/X11
> -I../../../../../lib/font/include  -I../../../../..
> -I../../../../../exports/include   -Dsun -Di386 -DSVR4 -D__EXTENSIONS__
> -D__i386 -DXF86CONFIG=\"XF86Config\" -DUSE_MODULES
> -DPROJECT_ROOT=\"/usr/X11R6\"-DXF86CONFIGDIR
> =\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11\"accessx.c
> In file included from config.h:42,
>  from accessx.c:32:
> /usr/include/strings.h:27: parse error before `('
> /usr/include/strings.h:28: parse error before `('
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `accessx.o'
> Current working directory
> /proj3/ere/work/lindsayh/XFree86/RC2/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg

> Is the following patch the correct solution, or should the conditional
> inclusion of strings.h be moved into Xos.h as well (I notice there was one
> added for SCO325)?

> *** programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.h.orig   Fri Dec 19 14:48:40
> 2003
> --- programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/xf86cfg/config.hWed Jan  7 09:48:01
> 2004
> ***
> *** 38,46 
>   #include 
>   #include 
>   #include 
> - #if defined(sun) && defined(SVR4)
> - #include 
> - #endif
>
>   #include 
>
> --- 38,43 

I agree changing Xos.h is probably the better fix, but it might break
something elsewhere.  For 4.4, I think it's sufficient to simply #undef
index & rindex before the #include  here.

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xfree86/etc installed files

2004-01-07 Thread Tyler Retzlaff
In xfree86/etc sun.termcap and sun.terminfo files are installed for
non SunArchitecture.  What purpose do these serve if any?  Or are they
relics that have been carried along ~forever?

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Re: Radeon 9600se Doesnt Work

2004-01-07 Thread Alex Deucher
for one thing both those documents refer to xfree86 4.3.0, support for
the newer cards was added to cvs (soon to be xfree86 4.4.0).  It should
be clarified that the first document referes to 2D acceleration.  As I
recall the status pages will be removed in 4.4.0 and the DRI page will
probably be updated when 4.4.0 is released.

For info on 3D support see the DRI pages:
http://dri.sf.net


Alex

--- Martin_MOKREJ© <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Alex Deucher wrote:
> 
> How about updating http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6 ?
> And about adding a section about upcoming 4.4.0?
> Also, this very same page might link to
> http://www.xfree86.org/current/DRI3.html#7 .
> 
> > 3D is only supported on radeon cards up to the 9200.  3D support
> for
> > r300 based cards (9500 and above) is only available from ati's
> binary
> > driver.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > --- toxicfeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I just installed Mandrake 9.2 but was unable to get XFree86 4.3.0
> to
> > > support my Radeon 9600se except in 2d mode. Is 3d supported and
> if
> > > not will it be supported in the next version?
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Mesa3D implementation into XFree86

2004-01-07 Thread Markus G. Fleschutz
Dear Community,

I need to build the Xvfb (X virtual frame buffer) from XFree86 supporting the
GLX extension version 1.3. Unfortunately, only GLX version 1.2 is supported
based on the Mesa3D library version 3.x (the latest stable version of Mesa3D is
5.0.2).

My question is: has anybody implemented the latest Mesa3D library into XFree86,
so the GLX extension version 1.3 in Xvfb is supported? When will the latest
Mesa3D library version be implemented into the official XFree86 version?
 
Thanks for your help and Best Regards,
 
 
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Mesa support in xfree86 versus Mesa3d

2004-01-07 Thread Martin MOKREJŠ
Hi,
 the documentation says:

http://www.xfree86.org/current/DRI4.html#8

  What happens if I install Mesa-5.0.2 over the /usr tree?
It would be worth of the effort documenting the configure flags needed for
Mesa to get same result as when using the xmkmf/Makefile stuff xc/ tree
has. For example, I configured Mesa-5.0.2 and overwrote 4.4.0-RC2
/usr/X11R6 tree as ./configure --prefix=/usr (I hope libGL* installed over
the old ones, but could someone confirm?).


  The documenattion should list Mesa versions included in respective
xfree86 versions. For example, 4.4.0 has mesa-5.0.2, right? ;)
How about xfree86 4.3.0?

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Re: Radeon 9600se Doesnt Work

2004-01-07 Thread Martin MOKREJŠ
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Alex Deucher wrote:

How about updating http://www.xfree86.org/current/Status6.html#6 ?
And about adding a section about upcoming 4.4.0?
Also, this very same page might link to
http://www.xfree86.org/current/DRI3.html#7 .

> 3D is only supported on radeon cards up to the 9200.  3D support for
> r300 based cards (9500 and above) is only available from ati's binary
> driver.
>
> Alex
>
> --- toxicfeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I just installed Mandrake 9.2 but was unable to get XFree86 4.3.0 to
> > support my Radeon 9600se except in 2d mode. Is 3d supported and if
> > not will it be supported in the next version?

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Re: Radeon 9600se Doesnt Work

2004-01-07 Thread Alex Deucher
3D is only supported on radeon cards up to the 9200.  3D support for
r300 based cards (9500 and above) is only available from ati's binary
driver.

Alex

--- toxicfeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I just installed Mandrake 9.2 but was unable to get XFree86 4.3.0 to
> support my Radeon 9600se except in 2d mode. Is 3d supported and if
> not will it be supported in the next version?
> 
> Thanks Dan
> 


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-rpath not used under Linux

2004-01-07 Thread Martin MOKREJŠ
Hi,
  I've reported the following bug:
http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1062

  I believe -Wl,-rpath,$(SHLIBDIRPATH) should be used on Linux and possibly
all Unix platforms. Running ldconfig did not help on my system but
LD_LIBRARY_PATH did. But, that's not a solution, because /etc/init.d/xdm
forks other shellscript and that somehow ignored *exported*
LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

  I simply don't see a reason to omit -rpath from linker commandline. The
Target installation prefix is known, so what ...


  Second, the documentation should be updated and explain where is one
supposed to put specifiv CFLAGS, LDFLAGS etc. At least, if editing
config/cf/Imake.tmpl is the right way or hack.

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Re: Suggested Fixes for the Rendition Driver - Long Message

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan Underwood

On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 11:49:49PM -0500, David Dawes wrote:
> 
> I don't know if the register specs for the rendition chips are
> available anywhere, but you'd probably find them useful and
> informative.

I contacted Rendition about this last year, since I was interested in
developing a DRI driver, and got the equivalent of a "We don't have
them, and it would cost too much to dig them up anyway, so bugger off"
response.

Since SciTech has a Rendition driver, I also contacted them, and got a
similar "This information is NDA, proprietary, blah blah blah" response,
which was rather disappointing.

I tried to pursue the line of reasoning that Rendition's (Micron's) only
objection to releasing the documentation was that they had no copies of
it left, so it seemed that if I extracted a statement from Micron to the
effect of "We no longer care about anything with the Rendition name",
then SciTech would be able to release the documentation to selected
third parties.  It didn't seem like such an idiotic proposal to me for
graphics technology that has been dead for going on 6 years now, but I
guess it was, since I never heard back from either Micron ITG or
SciTech about it.

I wouldn't put too much hope into Rendition documentation ever seeing
the light of day.

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Re: embed the fixed font in the X server binary

2004-01-07 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DD> Of course once this is done, the problem reports will change to "My X
DD> apps can't find the fonts they need," or "Why is everything is using
DD> the same ugly font?"

;-)
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Re: embed the fixed font in the X server binary

2004-01-07 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
TV> To the point: wouldn't it be benecifial to embed the fixed font in the X
TV> server binary itself?

Definitely (and the cursor font too).  The TinyX (KDrive) server
already does that.

Unfortunately, it is not possible to use the KDrive built-in fonts
code in the XFree86 server, as it pulls in quite a lot of stuff which
shouldn't be in the core server (including the fontdir code, the PCF
parser and libz).  I've been planning to do a clean implementation of
built-in fonts for quite some time, but as usual Real Work is keeping
me distracted.

Juliusz

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looking to find more suppliers for novelty (designs) denim, stretch poplin, stretch corduroy

2004-01-07 Thread ca collection
Dear all,

We are fabric wholesaler.
Our market is USA, Mexico and Europe (most of our line we sell to
non-quota country).
We specialize in stretch denim, stretch novelty denim, stretch poplin,
stretch corduroy and stretch….
  
We are looking to find more suppliers for novelty (designs) denim, stretch
poplin, stretch corduroy…

1. Poplin many colors.
2. Corduroy 16W many colors.
3. Denim cotton/spandex 97/3 or 96/4 , cotton/poly/spandex 75/21/4 or
others. (SLUB, crosshatch, and basic)
We buy from Taiwan width 52-54” form others width 56-57” and more we
are very interested in 75”.
4. We buy minimum 40foot container.
5. Please do not ask more details because there are many constructions.
6. We can’t give you target price because we are buying fabric from $1.08
- $1.65 CIF Laredo Texas in bound. (NO NEED QUOTA) we sell it to 
non-quota countries.
7. Send us your catalog (hangers) to select from.
8. When you send us the samples email us the tracking number in the Email
subject, include your email address in the package.
9. These fabrics do not need quota because we sell it to non-quota
countries.
10. We need a price FOB your country.

Fabric examples that we buy:

Denim 10+8x200D+40D 57/58" long ring 10oz
Denim 12+7x300D+40D 57/58" long ring 10oz
DENIM C/T/SP 96X72/10+12+16X150D+40D 2/1 TWILL WIDTH:56" 10oz
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Welcome to Beijing

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel
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Re: Return-activation behaviour

2004-01-07 Thread Marcel . Stegehuis
The Textronics terminals are fairly old but the NCD900 are not that old.
But in an Windows/Exceed configuration everything also works !

It clearly points to an keyboard configuration problem but as the keysims
seem to be fine I would like to know what the function of the keyboard module
is and how it works.

Also I would like to know how I best could test this problem with which tools
?

Regards,

Marcel Stegehuis

>-- Oorspronkelijk bericht --
>From: Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [XFree86] Re: Return-activation behaviour
>Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 07:17:15 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have a test system of a multi monitor (5) Linux RedHat 9.0/Xfree86 4.3
> X-Terminal system. Programs and MWM window manager (version 1.2-4) are
started
> from a DEC VMS machine.
>
> There 
>s unexpected strange behaviour of the activation key:
> After editing in an edit box one can press Enter to select the Ok button
> and normally press Enter again to activate it.
> In our situation the Space must be pressed for the activation of the 
>k button.

How old are the terminals for the "old" situation? I (am not a Motif
expert) seem to recall that originally Motif (1.1?)  would allow this, but
newer Motif (1.2?) changed this.  It was an FAQ several years ago.

>
> In the old situati
>n where there is no Linux X-terminal but five seperate
> X-Terminals (NCD900 or Textronics) everything works fine.
>
> Keysymbols seem to be OK.
>
> Has anyone an idea what is going wrong
>
> or
>
> does anybody know how I should debug the sys
>em to find the problem/solution
> ?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel Stegehuis
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