Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:12:26AM -0800, Andrew P. Lentvorski, Jr. wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: We have lost developers who might have been valuable to us by not giving them CVS access. I'm afraid to say that from the outside it appears that if David had been able to swallow his pride a little more, things might have turned out a little different. Actually, this points to a more structural failure in the tools. People seem to be afraid to bestow CVS access due to it being so all or nothing. It's really not, you know. Aside from the fact you can do permissions, there's also the KDE module, with a flexible checkin script to allow/deny/whatever commits, based on an arbitrary ruleset. -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org - http://www.kde.org - http://www.freedesktop.org What's next? People turning up on my doorstep, observing that the lack of doorbell is likely to confuse people and hence removing my front door? -- David Woodhouse on usability efforts, Advogato pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Monday 27 October 2003 03:43 am, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: The fact remains that there are developers out there who without CVS access, who those who don't know the facts think could be making an even bigger contribution if they did have access. Nice post, but I couldn't parse the last sentence -- can you clarify? Are you saying that there are some not readily apparent facts (obligations, whatever) that make CVS access a mixed blessing. I didn't phrase that quite the way I wanted to -- I know it's a mixed blessing because of the typical obligations like not breaking the tree, and in the case of a cross-platform project like X, not breaking it for any platform, but are there some less obvious obligations that made you decide that you really didn't want CVS access? Can you share those with us? Randy Kramer ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific area. There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a considerable amount of time. Indeed, you're doing most of the bugzilla work alone; it's a pity there aren't more people helping with that. Perhaps, but Egbert and the others contributing do such a good job, that if everyone at XFree86.org actively used bugzilla, there would be zero open bugs to fix! ;o) Where's the challenge in that? ;o) If everyone used bugzilla, we'd have to go out of our ways to find new bugs to report just to keep everyone busy. ;o) On a much more serious note though, I'm very happy that bugzilla has worked as well as it has, and I'd like to thank everyone both at XFree86.org, and in the community for all the contributions people have made, both reporting bugs, supplying patches, helping track down various issues, and committing fixes to CVS, etc., etc. Good work to everyone who has contributed! -- Mike A. Harris ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:53, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Michel Dnzer wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:13, Egbert Eich wrote: Marc Aurele La France writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific area. There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a considerable amount of time. Indeed, you're doing most of the bugzilla work alone; it's a pity there aren't more people helping with that. Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as everybody else. I agree that you should be able to commit Cygwin stuff yourself (but I can't do anything about it), I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do much good there though. -- Earthling Michel Dnzer \ Debian (powerpc), XFree86 and DRI developer Software libre enthusiast \ http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. -Peter ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have a chance to get an idea of where time goes. the patches _are_ applied, right? Thanks for your amazing support Thomas. You don't know anything about me, so you can keep your blanket statements about where you time goes to yourself. By the way, how often do you have to go to the doctor's office? How often do you have to get prescriptions refiled? How often do you have to change the tubing for a medical device that is attached to you? Huh? Didn't think so. So, please take this as kindly as possible when I say: Go fuck yourself. The funny thing here is that I am volunteering to take care of my own patches and I am personally insulted that my offer is being ignored. Nobody is going to take you seriously if all you can do is be rude and insulting. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way, I don't appreciate it. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. On the contrary. Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all. Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. On the contrary. Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all. Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it. I've tried to stay out of this ... From my (impartial; I'm not taking sides) reading, he was saying, if you want me here, it's on my terms, which includes CVS. No CVS, no me. He was (AFAICT) placing conditions on his continued participation in a volunteer activity, not making demands of other volunteers. -- Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org - http://www.kde.org - http://www.freedesktop.org What's next? People turning up on my doorstep, observing that the lack of doorbell is likely to confuse people and hence removing my front door? -- David Woodhouse on usability efforts, Advogato pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Craig, Craig Groeschel wrote: I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do much good there though. Great. Shoot the messenger. (btw, No one is ranting or threatening. Just being lucid and assertive. IMHO.) Thanks for your support. I have tried, and failed on occasion, to maintain my composure. I have noticed a lot of drama and negativity on this list too. I don't have experience with other free software projects so I don't know whether this is the case everywhere. [snip] I guess what I am saying is I think XFree86 has a tremendous opportunity here. And I for one will be watching to see the outcome. I send my best wishes to all parties. Thanks again for your support. Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as everybody else. No, this is about my submitting Cygwin-specific bugs that can't actually be assigned to me for committing them, even though I am the expert on Cygwin/XFree86. This thread started to point out the hypocrisy of the situation and to see what the official response to this was. When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. As a volunteer myself, I don't have to take this type of attitude from you or from anyone else. And I won't. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
David Dawes wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as everybody else. No, this is about my submitting Cygwin-specific bugs that can't actually be assigned to me for committing them, even though I am the expert on Cygwin/XFree86. This thread started to point out the hypocrisy of the situation and to see what the official response to this was. When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. As a volunteer myself, I don't have to take this type of attitude from you or from anyone else. And I won't. David, I mentioned that failure to commit my patches in a timely manner causes me to have a hard time figuring out which have been committed and which haven't (this was when I was sending patches to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You probably never saw this system from the standpoint of a non-commit developer. The problem here is that you send a patch to the list, it randomly gets committed by someone (you don't know who in advance, so you have to track everyone's committs), then you have to figure out who committed it (if anyone) and if it was done correctly. The system was a mess and did not aid non-commit developers in tracking their patches. Your response to this comment was that I was unorganized and that it cause by my lack of attention to detail. Was that a respectful and non-insulting response to my message? Is this my formal message to piss off? Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
David Dawes wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have a chance to get an idea of where time goes. the patches _are_ applied, right? Thanks for your amazing support Thomas. You don't know anything about me, so you can keep your blanket statements about where you time goes to yourself. By the way, how often do you have to go to the doctor's office? How often do you have to get prescriptions refiled? How often do you have to change the tubing for a medical device that is attached to you? Huh? Didn't think so. So, please take this as kindly as possible when I say: Go fuck yourself. The funny thing here is that I am volunteering to take care of my own patches and I am personally insulted that my offer is being ignored. Nobody is going to take you seriously if all you can do is be rude and insulting. Excuse me, Thomas Dickey stepped *way* out of line here. This is a side conversation, but since he made his insult public, I made my response public. As for the core of this thread, I am trying very hard not to be rude and insulting. Look, everyone knows that you like the development model that you have going here (else, it wouldn't be setup this way). How would you suggest I word a request that you change that development model in such a way that it would not be inflamatory towards you or XFree86? It can't be done. That is part of the problem: Any way that I, or another developer, assertively requests CVS access is met with a flame fest. That is not a sign of a healthy organization that is looking to attract developers. Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way, I don't appreciate it. Thomas Dickey, You sent me the biggest insult I have ever received in my life. How can you not realize that? How can you do anything except apologize for your extremely rude message? Please, never, ever, respond to another word that I write until you correct yourself. Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way, I don't appreciate it. He really was. You weren't. His reply perhaps wasn't, either, but at least there was a reason for that which was discernible to dispassionate bystanders. -Peter ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. On the contrary. Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all. Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it. Marc, I am not implying that anyone owes me anything. XFree86 owes me nothing. I am asking to do *more* not *less* for the XFree86 project. Committing my own Cygwin-specific patches not only saves me time, but it saves all other XFree86 committers time as well. How is that implying that XFree86 owes me something? Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]
Daniel Stone wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. On the contrary. Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all. Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it. I've tried to stay out of this ... From my (impartial; I'm not taking sides) reading, he was saying, if you want me here, it's on my terms, which includes CVS. No CVS, no me. He was (AFAICT) placing conditions on his continued participation in a volunteer activity, not making demands of other volunteers. Daniel, Thank you. It is nice to know that what I am writing can be read as I have intended it to be read. Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have a chance to get an idea of where time goes. the patches _are_ applied, right? -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Michel Dnzer wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:13, Egbert Eich wrote: Marc Aurele La France writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific area. There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a considerable amount of time. Indeed, you're doing most of the bugzilla work alone; it's a pity there aren't more people helping with that. Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do this while other platform maintainers made the luck of the draw and get to commit their patches directly. Here it is: Let me commit my own patches within two months or I am going to let xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin die; I will stop sending updates, I will request that you remove hw/xwin and stop advertising that you support Cygwin. Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Learn something new every day :-). Looks like the subscriber list is publicly viewable (and very small). Where? I see nothing here: http://xfree86.org/lists.html I also get nothing when I try to forge a link to the list: http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/developer/ Is there a different mailing list server for bugs.xfree86.org? http://bugs.xfree86.org/mailman/roster/developer Kindof interesting that XFree86.org has finally switched to bugzilla, and none of the developers get bug report emails sent to them except Michel and Marc... Fortunately, Matthieu, Egbert, Alan and others at least use the web UI and take care of the majority of reports that come in, and do so very well, since the number of open reports is quite small compared to the entire size of the database. In that light, I'd consider bugzilla quite a success so far, even if it doesn't even exist to some developers. ;o) -- Mike A. Harris ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Marc Aurele La France writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific area. There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a considerable amount of time. Egbert. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Harold L Hunt II writes: What happens when I assign patches in the Cygwin Xserver project to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Does an email go out to everyone with CVS commit access? Is there a single person that receives this email? Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits? I realize that a feature freeze is in place now... this is a general questions for normal times so that I know how to assign my bugs to when I want them to get committed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list where interested persons can subscribe to. I don't know how though. It serves as a general 'sink' for everything that cannot be sent to a specific maintainer. If you have a patch that you would like to see committed you can assign it to me. I have to apologize that I was gone last week and in bed with a cold this week so there is a rather big backlog of patches that I was planning to commit but haven't. I will review uncommitted patches and commit them as soon as I feel better. Egbert. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Harold L Hunt II writes: So, who wants to handle a high volume of patches specific to Cygwin after the 4.4.0 branch? Any volunteers? I would appreciate someone that can commit to a 24 to 48 hour turnaround on committing submitted patches that don't touch other platforms. I usually try to do this. However I can only do so when I have high speed internet access. This isn't the case when I'm traveling or home with a cold. Egbert. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
Egbert Eich wrote: Marc Aurele La France writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific area. There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a considerable amount of time. Good point. I am the defacto expert for Cygwin/XFree86, considering that I have been contributing to the project for 3 years now and leading the project for going on 2 years. You might think that I should therefore be able to commit my own patches that were Cygwin-specific, but that is not the case. I do not think that Egbert should have to be burdened with committing Cygwin-specific patches. Can I please finally be given CVS commit access with the understanding that I am a moron and that I will only commit things that are Cygwin-specific, with all other non-Cygwin-specific patches sent via bugs.xfree86.org? At the first sign of my veering off course you could feel free to revoke my access. I think I have already proven that I am dedicated to the XFree86 project and that I am knowledgible enough to know where the line is between patches for my own platform and patches that may break the build on other platforms. Thanks, Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: What happens when I assign patches in the Cygwin Xserver project to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Does an email go out to everyone with CVS commit access? Is there a single person that receives this email? Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits? Dunno where it goes, just that thankfully I don't receive any of it. The way I understand bugzilla is that people have to go to the web interface looking for stuff. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: What happens when I assign patches in the Cygwin Xserver project to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Does an email go out to everyone with CVS commit access? Is there a single person that receives this email? Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits? Dunno where it goes, just that thankfully I don't receive any of it. The way I understand bugzilla is that people have to go to the web interface looking for stuff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:55PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: What happens when I assign patches in the Cygwin Xserver project to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Does an email go out to everyone with CVS commit access? Is there a single person that receives this email? Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits? Dunno where it goes, just that thankfully I don't receive any of it. The way I understand bugzilla is that people have to go to the web interface looking for stuff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. Learn something new every day :-). Looks like the subscriber list is publicly viewable (and very small). David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:55PM -0600, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:34:53PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote: What happens when I assign patches in the Cygwin Xserver project to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Does an email go out to everyone with CVS commit access? Is there a single person that receives this email? Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits? Dunno where it goes, just that thankfully I don't receive any of it. The way I understand bugzilla is that people have to go to the web interface looking for stuff. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I believe, so is Egbert. Learn something new every day :-). Looks like the subscriber list is publicly viewable (and very small). Where? I see nothing here: http://xfree86.org/lists.html I also get nothing when I try to forge a link to the list: http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/developer/ Is there a different mailing list server for bugs.xfree86.org? So, who wants to handle a high volume of patches specific to Cygwin after the 4.4.0 branch? Any volunteers? I would appreciate someone that can commit to a 24 to 48 hour turnaround on committing submitted patches that don't touch other platforms. Thanks, Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Where? I see nothing here: http://xfree86.org/lists.html I also get nothing when I try to forge a link to the list: http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/developer/ Is there a different mailing list server for bugs.xfree86.org? Yes, it is a different server. http://bugs.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/developer/ Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
