Re: [Development] API Change Review for 6.2

2021-07-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 6 July 2021 08:29:04 PDT Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 05/07/2021 12:54, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
> > We have gotten review of the modules with larger number of changes
> > progressing well, but a few modules are still without comments.
> > 
> > With the Alpha out and Beta 1 soon ready to be released it is time to
> > complete the API review so that we have the agreement upon what to do
> > before release of Qt 6.2.0.
> 
> Given the API review isn't finished, may I ask what are the criteria for
> moving a release from Alpha to Beta to RC to full release?
> 
> It used to be that
> 
> Alpha = review the API;
> Beta = review the implemetation;

tl;dr: there's a one-step delay.

Alpha releases are *published* so we can get feedback on the API. And while 
beta releases are *published* to get feedback on the implementation, that does 
not mean we can't get feedback on the API. We can still fix the API all the 
way up to the final release.

The alpha release (singular) used to be "once feature complete", but we've 
been making multiple releases because, despite feature freeze, some things 
simply don't work properly at the feature freeze time. So we keep making them 
until one release does. Once we conclude the release is working sufficiently 
to get feedback on the implementation as well as API, we call it "beta".

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Re: [Development] API Change Review for 6.2

2021-07-06 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Development

Hello,

On 05/07/2021 12:54, Tuukka Turunen wrote:
We have gotten review of the modules with larger number of changes 
progressing well, but a few modules are still without comments.


With the Alpha out and Beta 1 soon ready to be released it is time to 
complete the API review so that we have the agreement upon what to do 
before release of Qt 6.2.0.




Given the API review isn't finished, may I ask what are the criteria for 
moving a release from Alpha to Beta to RC to full release?


It used to be that

Alpha = review the API;
Beta = review the implemetation;

but evidently it's not that, and I missed the memo.


Thanks,
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[Development] Qt 6.2 Beta1 released

2021-07-06 Thread Jukka Jokiniva
Hi all,

We have released Qt 6.2 Beta1 today, please check the blog post at 
https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.2-beta-released
Big thanks to everyone involved!

br,
Jukka Jokiniva
Release Manager


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Re: [Development] Mirror IRC channels on KDE's Matrix Instance

2021-07-06 Thread Cristián Maureira-Fredes

Hello,

Since nobody refused to this decision,
will contact the folks at KDE
to start the process of mirroring
the IRC channels into KDE's Matrix instance.

Thanks everyone!

Cheers

On 6/28/21 12:51 PM, Cristián Maureira-Fredes wrote:

Hello everyone,

Context
---

After the "Improve the contributor experience" session at the past Qt
Contributors Summit, many ideas came out related to an overall
improvement to the contribution experience, mainly focused on new
people joining the Qt Project.

One of the topics was Communication,
from which we (qt project people) discussed together with some KDE folks
and agreed that bringing the Qt and KDE communities closer was a good
idea, mainly based on the good experience KDE has currently on the
platform.

We have a good opportunity to do this via a bridge from our newly
created Libera.chat IRC channels, to KDE's Matrix Instance.

During the QtCS,
we tried this out, and mirrored the #qt-cs IRC channel
to Matrix: https://go.kde.org/matrix/#/#qt-cs:kde.org
and according to the people that participated in the session the
experience was nice, and it might be worth to bridge all the other
#qt-* channels on IRC.

Read more about Matrix: https://matrix.org/
Read more about KDE's Matrix Instance: https://community.kde.org/Matrix


Implications


If you prefer IRC, it's totally fine,
this change would only imply that you will get more people
on IRC to interact with.

If you want to move to Matrix completely, this change will enable
you to stay in touch with folks on the IRC channels.

Permissions work different on Matrix than IRC,
but with the current list of moderators in the #qt- domain
we can easily assign permissions to people on the Matrix
channels accordingly.

Let's keep the discussion of other communication platforms
outside this thread, while they might be valid, it's
out of the scope of this proposal.

Question


I would like to ask the Qt Project if you agree or disagree
with the proposal to mirror all the #qt-* channels from Libera.chat
to KDE's Matrix Instance.

If we don't have unresolved disagreements, I'd say we can
proceed with the mirroring Monday next week, but if there are
concerns, I would prefer to address them first.

Cheers





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