Re: [Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)

2021-05-21 Thread Jason H

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne 
mailto:kai.koe...@qt.io]> wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Development 
> > mailto:development-boun...@qt-project.org]>
> >  On Behalf Of Jason H
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26
> > To: giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com[mailto:giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com]
> > Cc: development@qt-project.org[mailto:development@qt-project.org]
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC
> >
> > * Before you laugh, and say that is crazy, consider that the online Qt Docs 
> > search results now have ads: 
> > https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera[https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera]
> >  shows 4 ads for me.  And I don't know of any other toolkit who serves 
> > their documentation with ads. Take for example mozdev:
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera[https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera]
> >  shows 0 ads. React, 0 ads. I figure it's only a matter of time until the 
> > actual documentation pages have ads too. (There may be good reasons for 
> > ads, but it's still not a good look.)
>
> It's true that the embedded search on doc.qt.io[http://doc.qt.io] sometimes 
> shows ads. But it's not the result of evil TQtC making heaps of money with 
> ads. It's just a side-effect of using google for embedded search, and has 
> been like that since years (if not decades)  ... We have actually recently 
> started to look into it (again), see 
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723[https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723]
>  if you want to get updates.

The browser extension is cool, thank you.

And yes, I broke my own rule to not attribute to malice/greed what can be 
explained by stupidity/laziness. I hadn't planned to mention it but given the 
nature of the Freenode split over user data privacy, I figured that the eyesore 
concern was secondary to the ad tracking/privacy concerns, and that may be of 
interest to those interested in switching from Freenode.


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[Development] Avoiding ads and/or Google for doc searches (was: Changes to Freenode's IRC)

2021-05-21 Thread Sze Howe Koh
On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 01:40, Kai Köhne  wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Development  On Behalf Of
Jason H
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2021 17:26
> > To: giuseppe.dang...@kdab.com
> > Cc: development@qt-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [Development] Changes to Freenode's IRC
> >
> > * Before you laugh, and say that is crazy, consider that the online Qt
Docs search results now have ads:
https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/search-results.html?q=camera shows 4 ads for me.
And I don't know of any other toolkit who serves their documentation with
ads. Take for example mozdev:
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/search?q=camera shows 0 ads. React,
0 ads. I figure it's only a matter of time until the actual documentation
pages have ads too. (There may be good reasons for ads, but it's still not
a good look.)
>
> It's true that the embedded search on doc.qt.io sometimes shows ads. But
it's not the result of evil TQtC making heaps of money with ads. It's just
a side-effect of using google for embedded search, and has been like that
since years (if not decades)  ... We have actually recently started to look
into it (again), see https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTWEBSITE-723 if you
want to get updates.

For those who want to avoid ads and/or the Google search engine, consider
the Qt Doc Search browser extension.

Features:
* Initiate searches from any browser tab; no need to navigate to doc.qt.io
first
* Search a specific version of Qt or a specific tool (Qt Creator, Qt Design
Studio, GammaRay, etc.)
* Choose your search engine (default: DuckDuckGo)

User links:
* (Chrome/Edge)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/qt-doc-search/gfigdpnkjnilcielpnmfmdnnbloabjoh
* (Firefox)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/qt-documentation-search/

Other links:
* (Original forum post)
https://forum.qt.io/topic/35616/web-browser-extension-for-improved-doc-searches
* (Source code, public domain) https://github.com/JKSH/qt-doc-search/


Regards,
Sze-Howe
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