Re: [Development] Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 offline package
Hi Cristian, In addition to Kais arguments I want to add that we want to encourage people to experiment with Qt, but we also want Creator to continue to function if those experiments fail. So even if we used the same compiler for the shipped Qt version and Qt Creator we would need to ship an extra copy of Qt exclusively for Creator (and not listed in Creator's configuration). Best Regards, Tobias -- Tobias Hunger, Senior Software Engineer | The Qt Company Digia Germany GmbH, Rudower Chaussee 13, D-12489 Berlin Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Tuula Haataja Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B Email: tobias.hun...@theqtcompany.com | Phone: +49 30 63 92 3255 www.qt.io | Qt Blog: http://blog.qt.digia.com/ | Twitter: @QtbyDigia, @Qtproject | Facebook: www.facebook.com/qt ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 offline package
> -Original Message- > From: development-bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany.com@qt- > project.org [mailto:development- > bounces+kai.koehne=theqtcompany@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of > Cristian Adam > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 11:14 AM > To: development@qt-project.org > Subject: [Development] Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 offline package > > Hi, > > > I've installed Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 (qt-opensource-windows-x86- > mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe) > and I've noticed that the Qt Creator bundled with it was compiled with MSVC > 2010 and had its own version of Qt 5.4 MSVC 2010 DLLs (~100MB) > > > What is the reason for this? The reason is simple: It's much easier to package / test one Windows binary, instead of nine different ones (we right now provide nine different offline installers for Windows). In the online installer case you have to choose one anyway, so we settled also on one build for the offline installers. > Is Mingw-GCC 4.9.1 that bad, that a MSVC 2010 build of Qt Creator was > needed? No it's not. There's a problem though with gdb choking when trying to debug a 32 bit Qt Creator. > qt-opensource-windows-x86-msvc2013_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 694MB > qt-opensource-windows-x86-mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 852MB > > > Mingw-GCC is known to produce bigger binaries, but there is no reason to > bloat the > installer, right? Well, Qt Creator and Qt also do not always synchronize their releases. That is, sometimes the Qt version Qt Creator ships is not the same as the released Qt version. In practice it really shouldn't matter to you with which exact Qt version / compiler Qt Creator is compiled, except if you want to build your own Qt Designer plugins: In this case you have to use a matching setup. Regards Kai ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
Re: [Development] Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 offline package
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Cristian Adam wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 > (qt-opensource-windows-x86-mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe) > and I've noticed that the Qt Creator bundled with it was compiled with > MSVC 2010 and had its > own version of Qt 5.4 MSVC 2010 DLLs (~100MB) > > What is the reason for this? > > Is Mingw-GCC 4.9.1 that bad, that a MSVC 2010 build of Qt Creator was > needed? > > qt-opensource-windows-x86-msvc2013_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 694MB > qt-opensource-windows-x86-mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 852MB > > Mingw-GCC is known to produce bigger binaries, but there is no reason to > bloat the > installer, right? > > Hmm, the same happened with qt-opensource-windows-x86-msvc2013_opengl-5.4.0.exe. I think Qt Creator was build once for Windows and included in all installers. >From my point of view Qt Creator should have been build with the same Qt version that was installed, reusing the Qt shared libraries, minimizing disk space and bandwidth... Cheers, Cristian. ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
[Development] Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 offline package
Hi, I've installed Qt 5.4 Mingw-4.9.1 (qt-opensource-windows-x86-mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe) and I've noticed that the Qt Creator bundled with it was compiled with MSVC 2010 and had its own version of Qt 5.4 MSVC 2010 DLLs (~100MB) What is the reason for this? Is Mingw-GCC 4.9.1 that bad, that a MSVC 2010 build of Qt Creator was needed? qt-opensource-windows-x86-msvc2013_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 694MB qt-opensource-windows-x86-mingw491_opengl-5.4.0.exe - 852MB Mingw-GCC is known to produce bigger binaries, but there is no reason to bloat the installer, right? Cheers, Cristian ___ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development
