Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Clément Aubin]

Hello,

+1 for both ;

Thanks,
Clément

On 02/01/2018 12:14 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
> +1
> 
> Thanks,
> Caty
> 
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> 
>> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
>> +1
>>
>> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Vincent Massol]

> On 1 Feb 2018, at 12:09, Guillaume Delhumeau  
> wrote:
> 
> 2018-02-01 11:28 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol :
> 
>> Hi Guillaume/all,
>> 
>>> On 1 Feb 2018, at 11:20, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>>> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
>>> +1
>> 
>> Could you explain what you mean by “enable all notifications”?
>> 
> 
> I meant having the "Watched Entities" (
> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Notifications%20Application/#HWatchedEntities)
> enabled, which mean having the toggles in the alert menu in the same place
> that we had them for Watchlist. Disabling Watchlist without this is a
> non-sense actually.

Ok, cool.

> 
>> 
>> Does this mean that any user by default will receive all events happening
>> on the wiki?
>> 
> 
> That's an other idea. Interesting that you don't like it

Not sure why you said this?

> 
> 
>> 
>> If so, I don’t think I agree. All other system I know only send you
>> notifications/emails for stuff you interact with.
>> 
>> This could make sense only for an admin IMO (not even sure there) but not
>> for all users.
>> 
>> BTW did you port the autowatch feature to notifications?
>> 
> 
> Yes but it seems I have not written the documentation for that yet.
> 
> 
>> 
>> What would make sense to me would be:
>> 1) When enabling an app, also enable email by default
>> 2) to auto send notifications & emails for pages that you’ve created or
>> made changes to (including commenting on). And ofc add ability for the user
>> to change that setting in his/her profile

We need to talk about this, possibly even for 9.11.x. As is mentioned in the 
Roadmap this is something to discuss and Ludovic also has ideas on this topic. 
He’d like to have notifications sent by mail by default for the “social” 
aspect. Thus we need to discuss this idea and decide what we could send by 
default and have the use disable that if he doesn’t want it.

So +1 for both VOTE1 and VOTE2.

Thanks
-Vincent

>> 
>>> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>>> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
>>> +1
>> 
>> So right now I’m -0 on both VOTE1 and VOTE2 till I understand better what
>> it means.
>> 
>> I’m +1 to disable the watchlist by default though for both branches.
>> 
> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
>>> Thanks,

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)]

+1

Thanks,
Caty

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:

> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
> +1
>
> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
> +1
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Guillaume Delhumeau]

2018-02-01 11:28 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol :

> Hi Guillaume/all,
>
> > On 1 Feb 2018, at 11:20, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> > features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
> > +1
>
> Could you explain what you mean by “enable all notifications”?
>

I meant having the "Watched Entities" (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Notifications%20Application/#HWatchedEntities)
enabled, which mean having the toggles in the alert menu in the same place
that we had them for Watchlist. Disabling Watchlist without this is a
non-sense actually.


>
> Does this mean that any user by default will receive all events happening
> on the wiki?
>

That's an other idea. Interesting that you don't like it


>
> If so, I don’t think I agree. All other system I know only send you
> notifications/emails for stuff you interact with.
>
> This could make sense only for an admin IMO (not even sure there) but not
> for all users.
>
> BTW did you port the autowatch feature to notifications?
>

Yes but it seems I have not written the documentation for that yet.


>
> What would make sense to me would be:
> 1) When enabling an app, also enable email by default
> 2) to auto send notifications & emails for pages that you’ve created or
> made changes to (including commenting on). And ofc add ability for the user
> to change that setting in his/her profile
>
> > VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> > features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
> > +1
>
> So right now I’m -0 on both VOTE1 and VOTE2 till I understand better what
> it means.
>
> I’m +1 to disable the watchlist by default though for both branches.
>

> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > Committer on the XWiki.org project
>
>


-- 
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Vincent Massol]

Hi Guillaume/all,

> On 1 Feb 2018, at 11:20, Guillaume Delhumeau  
> wrote:
> 
> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
> +1

Could you explain what you mean by “enable all notifications”?

Does this mean that any user by default will receive all events happening on 
the wiki?

If so, I don’t think I agree. All other system I know only send you 
notifications/emails for stuff you interact with.

This could make sense only for an admin IMO (not even sure there) but not for 
all users.

BTW did you port the autowatch feature to notifications?

What would make sense to me would be:
1) When enabling an app, also enable email by default
2) to auto send notifications & emails for pages that you’ve created or made 
changes to (including commenting on). And ofc add ability for the user to 
change that setting in his/her profile

> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
> +1

So right now I’m -0 on both VOTE1 and VOTE2 till I understand better what it 
means.

I’m +1 to disable the watchlist by default though for both branches.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Thomas Mortagne]

+1 to both

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
 wrote:
> +1 for both.
>
> Thanks,
> Marius
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>
>> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
>> +1
>>
>> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
>> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>



-- 
Thomas Mortagne

Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Marius Dumitru Florea]

+1 for both.

Thanks,
Marius

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:

> VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
> +1
>
> VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
> features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
> +1
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>

[xwiki-devs] [VOTE] Disable the Watchlist by default

[Guillaume Delhumeau]

VOTE 1: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
features on XWiki 10.1 RC 1
+1

VOTE 2: Disable the Watchlist by default and enable all Notifications
features on XWiki 9.12.3 so the LTS has good options enabled by default
+1

Thanks,

-- 
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project

[xwiki-devs] [XWiki Day] BFD#164

[Alex Cotiugă]

Hello devs,

This Thursday is BFD#164:
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/XWikiDays#HBugfixingdays

Our current status is:
* -100 bugs over 365 days (1 year)
* -74 bugs over 500 days (between 1 and 2 years)
* -269 bugs over 1600 days (4.3 years)
* -689 bugs since the beginning of XWiki

See https://jira.xwiki.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10352


Here's the BFD#164 dashboard to follow the progress during the day:
https://jira.xwiki.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13948

Happy Bug Fixing Day,
Alex