Re: [Dhis2-devs] Interesting blog post about the cost of DHIS 2
Interesting, and we should work on the wording on our website. However, I read his point as nothing is really free, except magpi. In his comparison with DHIS2 though, he's comparing apples and oranges. He also fails to mention that you have to pay per reported form, and for extra functionality. Not that he doesn't have a point about DHIS2, but he's comparison is quite unfair. https://datadyne.zendesk.com/entries/21093588-Cost-of-Magpi-formerly-EpiSurveyor- Johan On 31.05.2013 09:54, Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote: Hi, Here is an interesting blog post on the cost of DHIS 2, and Free and Open Source Software in general: http://www.datadyne.org/2013/05/global-dev-where-free-means-expensive/ Not sure where he got the idea that a national, or any, HIS implementation can be free from, but I guess he has a point that it is important to be clear on what part is free. We can definitely be better at providing guidance on the implementation costing, although I don't think we have been trying to hide the fact that training thousands of users can be expensive. The freedom aspect of free software is of course not mentioned in his blog at all Ola -- -- Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) HISP Department of Informatics University of Oslo Mobile: +47 48069736 Home address: Eftasåsen 68, 0687 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-devs] DHIS 2 featured project on launchpad
cool, out of nearly 29 000 projects! On 22.08.2012 14:41, Lars Helge Øverland wrote: https://launchpad.net/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-devs] flexible start-of-week?
Jason, yes, I think it is a blueprint to define periods through the user interface. In this particular case, we work around it by using standard ISO-weeks to approximate the caribbean sunday-saturday 4-weekly reporting. But the monday-sunday is not so standard as it appears. A lot of middle eastern countries have saturday as first day of the week, and a lot of countries in the Americas have sunday (like the caribbean). Then there are also other rules for numbering weeks. Luckily, months and years are a bit more standardized. Has anyone else encountered this requirement? Johan On 27.04.2012 06:35, Jason Pickering wrote: Hi Johan, I think this would be something the developers would need to do, although it is not too difficult to implement. Source is available here \dhis-2\dhis-api\src\main\java\org\hisp\dhis\period And by the four weeks period, you mean something which starts on a Sunday, not on a Monday? It sounds like this is really a bigger blueprint, namely the ability to dynamically define period types somehow through the user interface. Regards, Jason On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Johan Sæbøjoha...@ifi.uio.no wrote: And how would I go about to create these custom periods? While at it, I would actually like to create four-week periods, starting with a sunday. Right now four-weekly reporting can be done by selecting week 1, 5, 9 etc when using weekly intervals, but it would be better with four-weeks 1-4, 5-8 etc. Regards, Johan On 16.04.2012 17:05, Jason Pickering wrote: AFAIK, in DHIS2, weeks are ISO weeks, meaning they start on the first Monday of the year which contains a Thursday. I am sure Bob can provide much more info on the ISO8601 standard. It would seem you would need a custom period in this case, similar to what has been done with the Fiscal years. Regards, Jason On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Johan Sæbøjoha...@ifi.uio.nowrote: Hello, I can't find any place to indicate which day a week starts, is this possible somewhere? For reporting purposes, Sunday is the first day of the week in the caribbean. Johan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-devs] what do you guys think of a duplicate function
On 26.04.2012 12:21, Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote: I have mentioned this to the developers from time to time and not given up yet... Both object cloning and batch edits are one my wish list for a more admin-friendly DHIS 2. Yes, that would be great! I'm just now defining DEs from a very regular pattern: disease name lab-confirmed, catcombo age+gender disease name suspected, default catcombo disease name epi-linked, default catcombo etc.., with 40-50 diseases Would be great to just clone earlier ones, and change the disease names. More complex though, but with even greater savings, would be some kind of pattern definition (batch edits is perhaps the same). I'm crossing my fingers for this one! Johan -- Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) HISP Department of Informatics University of Oslo Mobile: +47 48069736 Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Vetlandsvn.+95B,+0685+Oslo,+Norway On 26 April 2012 12:08, Ime Asangansi asanga...@yahoo.com mailto:asanga...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Roshan, Yes, looks like Ola's blueprint has been there since 2009 so its probably not that important. Its really easy doing from the back-end though, good to know for those moving from 1.4 Ime --- On *Thu, 4/26/12, Roshan Hewapathirana /roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com mailto:roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Roshan Hewapathirana roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com mailto:roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] what do you guys think of a duplicate function To: Ime Asangansi asanga...@yahoo.com mailto:asanga...@yahoo.com Cc: dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net mailto:dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 10:37 AM Hi Ime, I think it is a useful function (even though it might not be used frequently). Ola has submitted this blue print on Data Elements, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/data-element-cloning I was wondering whether it is worth submitting a similar blue print for Indicators too. For Indicators, 'Replicate' function is there in DHIS1.4, which basically allow you to create an Indicator by different names, with more or less similar numerators, denominators and Indicator types. Roshan On 25 April 2012 22:24, Ime Asangansi asanga...@yahoo.com http://mc/compose?to=asanga...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Just a thought about making creating data elements, indicators, categories, etc faster. Would it be cool to have a new 'create xxx' form that is auto-filled when we hit duplicate on an existing element/orgunit/category etc Just for convenience, especially when one wants to create a hundred things with just a small difference btw. (As a fall back I'm having to do it with csv and loading up at the backend, cos its just faster to make so many from a sheet than from the interface) Just a quick thot... Ime ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net http://mc/compose?to=dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net mailto:dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-devs] flexible start-of-week?
And how would I go about to create these custom periods? While at it, I would actually like to create four-week periods, starting with a sunday. Right now four-weekly reporting can be done by selecting week 1, 5, 9 etc when using weekly intervals, but it would be better with four-weeks 1-4, 5-8 etc. Regards, Johan On 16.04.2012 17:05, Jason Pickering wrote: AFAIK, in DHIS2, weeks are ISO weeks, meaning they start on the first Monday of the year which contains a Thursday. I am sure Bob can provide much more info on the ISO8601 standard. It would seem you would need a custom period in this case, similar to what has been done with the Fiscal years. Regards, Jason On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Johan Sæbøjoha...@ifi.uio.no wrote: Hello, I can't find any place to indicate which day a week starts, is this possible somewhere? For reporting purposes, Sunday is the first day of the week in the caribbean. Johan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dhis2-devs] flexible start-of-week?
Hello, I can't find any place to indicate which day a week starts, is this possible somewhere? For reporting purposes, Sunday is the first day of the week in the caribbean. Johan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dhis2-devs] Report page layout suggestions
Dear all, we had some discussions in Malawi last week about documentation, and found, together with some users, that the Reports page, accessed from the main menu Services, is tricky. Rather than write very complicated documentation, it probably makes sense to change the GUI. Please find attached a first stab at it. Sorry for the format, it was easiest to do it this way during discussions. Wanted to post it here first, to hear what people think of this, if it's needed at all, or some other suggestions, before making it a blue-print. 1) The majority (?) of users will probably be looking for what we call Standard reports and Data set reports, though these are not the obvious ones to select as it is now, even if they are on the top of the page. We thought it would make sense to put them under a more explaining heading, though did not come up with anything better than Data and Indicator reports 2) Under this heading we also put Charts and Maps (or GIS, as long as it is consistent), which is new in this page. If preconfigured map views are available, they should perhaps be so from this page. 3) Heading Pivot Tables or Pivot Tables Reports, both with the in-DHIS one, and links to the Excel ones, if most users are actually thinking of the excel one if they hear pivot table. 4) Heading Data Administration Reports. Not sure if this is the best way, but these reports are more on the meta-level. Data Completeness could be a Data Quality issue, just as the Validation Analysis could be called a report, but I'm not sure it makes sense to move Data Completeness reports to a different page (Data Quality) 5) Heading Documents, containing Archive rather than what is now called Static Reports. The Tally Sheet Generator is not really a report, but for lack of a better place to put it, we put it here. 6) Heading Client Reports (changed from Scheduling), since there will probably be more client/patient based reporting functionalities in the near future. 7) Heading Report Management. At least report grouping belongs here, but not sure about report tables. How much are report tables used as reports alone, compared to how much they are created, used in standard reports, but never used otherwise? If the latter is the most common case, then they probably belong under something like Report Management. 8) Default help screen. Now all options are listed, and explained by a line or two. To emphasise the main end-user uses, we thought of showing the data and indicator reports-options as thumbnails at the top, with only brief text for the other headings. Users of these probably don't need the help that much anyway. Also, the Malawi end-users we talked with understood much better what it was when we said it was a _monthly_ report, so some text with such wording might be useful. Now it's some text with reference to BIRT and Jasper. Johan Report page layout proposal.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
