Re: [Dhis2-users] Conversion factors and their implications

2015-08-27 Thread Abyot Gizaw
Hi Seid,

Selam's formula is correct - it works.

5965 / 60 is 99.42  not 9942 %

To convert it to percentage probably you have to divide it by a denominator
and then multiply it by 100. In this case the way the indicator is
conceptualized, the fact that from a start something is subtracted from
100, the final result (99.42) is already percentage.

If this value doesn't make sens, then we have to devise another expression.
Otherwise, the formula is Selam gave you is correct (at least
mathematically).

And yes, in DHIS2 we can put any mathematical expression and handle complex
things. We don't have to limit ourselves with the simple
numerator/denominator expression.

---
Thank you,
Abyot.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Selam Abyot,

 I think the formula you wrote is not correct. I replaced the formula with
 numerators and denominators and see what happens.

 Numerator == a   (Doses used)
 Denominator == b(Doses opened)

 ((100 * b) - a)/b

 Let's assume a (doses given)  = 35 and b (doses opened) = 60

 ((100 * 60) - 35) / 60

 (6000 - 35) / 60

 5965 / 60

 You get a figure of  9942%


 Please check again before defining them.

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:59 AM, selam selam_mo...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi Seid,

 This is the summary of our discussions regarding the conversion factors
 and other issues
 1) Regarding the conversion factor, we take the first option you
 suggested.

- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for
each facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)


 2) For the two level indicators of vaccine wastage rate, we use the
 expression  ((100*Dose opened)-Dose given)/Dose opened
 3) The indicators should be revised. most of the denominators are defined
 because of lack population data and estimates
 4) Seid please  contact those who are working with Phem (IDSR) regarding
 how often they collect data. If weekly, is that including Pagume. We should
 also ask if they are using the International or Ethiopian calendar when the
 weekly data collection. Because as IDSR is an international program, there
 is a possibility that they are using the International Calendar to compare
 data across countries
 5) Seid please contact Solomon from gate foundation and respond to the
 emails of Dykki
 6) Write your technical problems directly to the mailing list

 Keep on the hard work Seido.

 Best regards,
 Selamawit M. Mekonnen
 Tlf:+4741374246




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 *From:* Abyot Gizaw aby...@gmail.com
 *To:* Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com; DHIS 2 Users list 
 dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
 *Cc:* Selamawit Molla selam_mo...@yahoo.com; Sundeep Sahay 
 sundeep.sa...@yahoo.com; Jørn Braa jornb...@gmail.com; John Lewis 
 johnlewis.h...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015, 9:21
 *Subject:* Re: Conversion factors and their implications

 Dear all,

 Please see the forwarded mail if you can help Seid. He is asking how to
 provinces can apply conversion factors on national level data.

 Seid can provide more details if necessary.

 ---
 Thank you,
 Abyot.



 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think you are better positioned to comment on this on what approach we
 should use. In the file attached, you can see that there are 49 different
 conversion factors to come up with approximations of different data
 elements like expected pregnancies and infant population.

 If these factors were the same for all regions, we could have added them
 as constants and used them to define the denominators for the indicators.
 However, as you can see each region has different conversion factors and
 there's a big difference among them which makes defining indicators very
 difficult.

 I see two options here:


- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for
each facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)
- Defining different indicators for different regions using different
constants as conversion factors (which I think may complicate things)

 In my view the first option is the best option for us because once we
 capture the total population, it is easier to generate data for the other
 data elements using these conversion factors. Of course, as I stated in my
 mail yesterday, there are two sets of population data used in the structure
 (MoH uses the official data from Central Statistical Authority
 dis-aggregated by Wereda while the regions use data collected from the
 ground. The data the regions use may be the most accurate but we have to
 accomodate both options I think because the two parties use their own
 population data to come up with the population figures, effectively having
 two different population data (administrative population and facility
 catchment population)

 If we are using 

Re: [Dhis2-users] Trouble with XML meta-data import through UI

2015-08-27 Thread Shurajit Dutta
Hi everyone, I think you are all right about the XML file. I downloaded
another option set from the demo instance (apps.dhis2.org/demo) API and
imported it successfully through the UI with no problems. I will have the
check the file more thoroughly.

Sorry for the trouble.

Nick

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Shurajit Dutta shurajitdu...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 It is the ICD-10 XML file on dhis2.org (attached). I am using the demo
 server (apps.dhis2.org/demo), which is 2.20.

 Nick

 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Carlos Nyembwe nyem...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Shurajit Dutta,
 Can you share you XML file for helping to found the mistake

 Thanks


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Shurajit Dutta shurajitdu...@gmail.com
  wrote:

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[Dhis2-users] Trouble with XML meta-data import through UI

2015-08-27 Thread Shurajit Dutta
Hi everyone,

I seem to be unable to import XML meta-data through the import-export app.

I tried a couple times now with the ICD-10 option set available on dhis2.org
through the demo. There was no response in the chrome console and no reply
within DHIS2 either. Usually there is some message indicating whats been
completed.

I tried it on my localhost as well and checked the log:

[image: Inline image 1]

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Trouble with XML meta-data import through UI

2015-08-27 Thread Jason Pickering
Hi. It would help to know what you are trying to import? Can you share the
file?

Looks like an XML formatting error to me.

Regards,
Jason


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wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I seem to be unable to import XML meta-data through the import-export app.

 I tried a couple times now with the ICD-10 option set available on
 dhis2.org through the demo. There was no response in the chrome console
 and no reply within DHIS2 either. Usually there is some message indicating
 whats been completed.

 I tried it on my localhost as well and checked the log:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Any help is appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Trouble with XML meta-data import through UI

2015-08-27 Thread Carlos Nyembwe
Hi Shurajit Dutta,
Can you share you XML file for helping to found the mistake

Thanks


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Re: [Dhis2-users] Trouble with XML meta-data import through UI

2015-08-27 Thread Halvdan Grelland
Also, please provide the stacktrace from the actual log files (where they
are depends on your servlet container). It should contain the root cause of
the error. It's also helpful to know which version of DHIS2 you're using.

2015-08-27 11:57 GMT+02:00 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com:

 Hi. It would help to know what you are trying to import? Can you share the
 file?

 Looks like an XML formatting error to me.

 Regards,
 Jason


 On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Shurajit Dutta shurajitdu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I seem to be unable to import XML meta-data through the import-export app.

 I tried a couple times now with the ICD-10 option set available on
 dhis2.org through the demo. There was no response in the chrome console
 and no reply within DHIS2 either. Usually there is some message indicating
 whats been completed.

 I tried it on my localhost as well and checked the log:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Any help is appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Dhis2-users] data mart deprecation - 2.21

2015-08-27 Thread Hannan Khan
In Bangladesh we are not using Data Mart; instead we are using paralytics.
So no problem from our end.

Regards

Hannan Khan
HISP Bangladesh


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 we are thinking of removing the data mart functionality in DHIS 2. This
 refers to the ability to populate the aggregateddatavalue and
 aggregatedindicatorvalue tables with pre-aggregated data.

 The data mart is no longer in use by DHIS 2. There might be third-party
 report tools out there that connects directly to the data mart tables.

 We recommend that you connect reporting tools to the analytics web api
 https://www.dhis2.org/doc/snapshot/en/developer/html/ch01s26.html for
 the sake of  performance, accessibility and security. If you need to
 connect with JDBC it is possible to create a SQL view to combine all
 analytics partitions and perform aggregation using group by statements.

 If we do not hear strong objections within a week we will remove data mart
 for version 2.21.


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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] data mart deprecation - 2.21

2015-08-27 Thread Edward Ari Bichetero
That seems a little extreme, but whatever works. Desperate times call for 
desperate measures.
- Edward -
 


 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:53 AM, Calle Hedberg 
calle.hedb...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 

 Paralytics??
On 27 August 2015 at 09:35, Hannan Khan hann...@gmail.com wrote:

In Bangladesh we are not using Data Mart; instead we are using paralytics. So 
no problem from our end.
Regards
Hannan KhanHISP Bangladesh


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi,
we are thinking of removing the data mart functionality in DHIS 2. This refers 
to the ability to populate the aggregateddatavalue and 
aggregatedindicatorvalue tables with pre-aggregated data. 
The data mart is no longer in use by DHIS 2. There might be third-party report 
tools out there that connects directly to the data mart tables. 
We recommend that you connect reporting tools to the analytics web api for the 
sake of  performance, accessibility and security. If you need to connect with 
JDBC it is possible to create a SQL view to combine all analytics partitions 
and perform aggregation using group by statements.
If we do not hear strong objections within a week we will remove data mart for 
version 2.21.

regards,
Lars
 

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Conversion factors and their implications

2015-08-27 Thread Seid Hussein
Hi Selam Abyot,

I think the formula you wrote is not correct. I replaced the formula with
numerators and denominators and see what happens.

Numerator == a   (Doses used)
Denominator == b(Doses opened)

((100 * b) - a)/b

Let's assume a (doses given)  = 35 and b (doses opened) = 60

((100 * 60) - 35) / 60

(6000 - 35) / 60

5965 / 60

You get a figure of  9942%


Please check again before defining them.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:59 AM, selam selam_mo...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi Seid,

 This is the summary of our discussions regarding the conversion factors
 and other issues
 1) Regarding the conversion factor, we take the first option you suggested.

- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for each
facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)


 2) For the two level indicators of vaccine wastage rate, we use the
 expression  ((100*Dose opened)-Dose given)/Dose opened
 3) The indicators should be revised. most of the denominators are defined
 because of lack population data and estimates
 4) Seid please  contact those who are working with Phem (IDSR) regarding
 how often they collect data. If weekly, is that including Pagume. We should
 also ask if they are using the International or Ethiopian calendar when the
 weekly data collection. Because as IDSR is an international program, there
 is a possibility that they are using the International Calendar to compare
 data across countries
 5) Seid please contact Solomon from gate foundation and respond to the
 emails of Dykki
 6) Write your technical problems directly to the mailing list

 Keep on the hard work Seido.

 Best regards,
 Selamawit M. Mekonnen
 Tlf:+4741374246




 --
 *From:* Abyot Gizaw aby...@gmail.com
 *To:* Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com; DHIS 2 Users list 
 dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
 *Cc:* Selamawit Molla selam_mo...@yahoo.com; Sundeep Sahay 
 sundeep.sa...@yahoo.com; Jørn Braa jornb...@gmail.com; John Lewis 
 johnlewis.h...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015, 9:21
 *Subject:* Re: Conversion factors and their implications

 Dear all,

 Please see the forwarded mail if you can help Seid. He is asking how to
 provinces can apply conversion factors on national level data.

 Seid can provide more details if necessary.

 ---
 Thank you,
 Abyot.



 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think you are better positioned to comment on this on what approach we
 should use. In the file attached, you can see that there are 49 different
 conversion factors to come up with approximations of different data
 elements like expected pregnancies and infant population.

 If these factors were the same for all regions, we could have added them
 as constants and used them to define the denominators for the indicators.
 However, as you can see each region has different conversion factors and
 there's a big difference among them which makes defining indicators very
 difficult.

 I see two options here:


- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for each
facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)
- Defining different indicators for different regions using different
constants as conversion factors (which I think may complicate things)

 In my view the first option is the best option for us because once we
 capture the total population, it is easier to generate data for the other
 data elements using these conversion factors. Of course, as I stated in my
 mail yesterday, there are two sets of population data used in the structure
 (MoH uses the official data from Central Statistical Authority
 dis-aggregated by Wereda while the regions use data collected from the
 ground. The data the regions use may be the most accurate but we have to
 accomodate both options I think because the two parties use their own
 population data to come up with the population figures, effectively having
 two different population data (administrative population and facility
 catchment population)

 If we are using two sets of population data, we may have to define the
 same for all the 49 other data elements with the factors as well.

 Would you please deliberate over it and suggest? Once we have a concrete
 plan, we can discuss with ME people here on how to proceed.

 Regards,


 Seid,





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Re: [Dhis2-users] Conversion factors and their implications

2015-08-27 Thread Seid Hussein
I tried to think over it, but I don't think the current Indicator
implementation does not accommodate this requirement.

Wastage rate is of course a strange indicator (they could have created an
indicator called usage rate). But somewhere somebody may come up with
another strange indicator like Infant survival rate which may be calculated
as:

1000 - (Number of 1 dead / Number of live births)

Please check again because my calculations could not show me a viable path.
If your formula works, it will work for all the 'strange' indicators as
well.


Seid

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:28 PM, selam selam_mo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks Seid for checking it out. I will correct it in the evening.


 Best regards,
 Selamawit M. Mekonnen
 Tlf:+4741374246




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 *To:* selam selam_mo...@yahoo.com
 *Cc:* Abyot Gizaw aby...@gmail.com; DHIS 2 Users list 
 dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net; Sundeep Sahay sundeep.sa...@yahoo.com;
 Jørn Braa jornb...@gmail.com; John Lewis johnlewis.h...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, 27 August 2015, 13:25

 *Subject:* Re: Conversion factors and their implications

 Hi Selam Abyot,

 I think the formula you wrote is not correct. I replaced the formula with
 numerators and denominators and see what happens.

 Numerator == a   (Doses used)
 Denominator == b(Doses opened)

 ((100 * b) - a)/b

 Let's assume a (doses given)  = 35 and b (doses opened) = 60

 ((100 * 60) - 35) / 60

 (6000 - 35) / 60

 5965 / 60

 You get a figure of  9942%


 Please check again before defining them.



 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:59 AM, selam selam_mo...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi Seid,

 This is the summary of our discussions regarding the conversion factors
 and other issues
 1) Regarding the conversion factor, we take the first option you suggested.

- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for each
facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)


 2) For the two level indicators of vaccine wastage rate, we use the
 expression  ((100*Dose opened)-Dose given)/Dose opened
 3) The indicators should be revised. most of the denominators are defined
 because of lack population data and estimates
 4) Seid please  contact those who are working with Phem (IDSR) regarding
 how often they collect data. If weekly, is that including Pagume. We should
 also ask if they are using the International or Ethiopian calendar when the
 weekly data collection. Because as IDSR is an international program, there
 is a possibility that they are using the International Calendar to compare
 data across countries
 5) Seid please contact Solomon from gate foundation and respond to the
 emails of Dykki
 6) Write your technical problems directly to the mailing list

 Keep on the hard work Seido.

 Best regards,
 Selamawit M. Mekonnen
 Tlf:+4741374246




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 *To:* Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com; DHIS 2 Users list 
 dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
 *Cc:* Selamawit Molla selam_mo...@yahoo.com; Sundeep Sahay 
 sundeep.sa...@yahoo.com; Jørn Braa jornb...@gmail.com; John Lewis 
 johnlewis.h...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 August 2015, 9:21
 *Subject:* Re: Conversion factors and their implications

 Dear all,

 Please see the forwarded mail if you can help Seid. He is asking how to
 provinces can apply conversion factors on national level data.

 Seid can provide more details if necessary.

 ---
 Thank you,
 Abyot.



 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Seid Hussein seid.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think you are better positioned to comment on this on what approach we
 should use. In the file attached, you can see that there are 49 different
 conversion factors to come up with approximations of different data
 elements like expected pregnancies and infant population.

 If these factors were the same for all regions, we could have added them
 as constants and used them to define the denominators for the indicators.
 However, as you can see each region has different conversion factors and
 there's a big difference among them which makes defining indicators very
 difficult.

 I see two options here:


- Capturing the population and calculating each data elements for each
facility by multiplying it with its respective region's factor (hence
coming up with at least 49 data elements)
- Defining different indicators for different regions using different
constants as conversion factors (which I think may complicate things)

 In my view the first option is the best option for us because once we
 capture the total population, it is easier to generate data for the other
 data elements using these conversion factors. Of course, as I stated in my
 mail yesterday, there are two sets of population data used in the structure
 (MoH uses the official data from Central Statistical Authority
 

Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] data mart deprecation - 2.21

2015-08-27 Thread Calle Hedberg
Paralytics??

On 27 August 2015 at 09:35, Hannan Khan hann...@gmail.com wrote:

 In Bangladesh we are not using Data Mart; instead we are using paralytics.
 So no problem from our end.

 Regards

 Hannan Khan
 HISP Bangladesh


 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 we are thinking of removing the data mart functionality in DHIS 2. This
 refers to the ability to populate the aggregateddatavalue and
 aggregatedindicatorvalue tables with pre-aggregated data.

 The data mart is no longer in use by DHIS 2. There might be third-party
 report tools out there that connects directly to the data mart tables.

 We recommend that you connect reporting tools to the analytics web api
 https://www.dhis2.org/doc/snapshot/en/developer/html/ch01s26.html for
 the sake of  performance, accessibility and security. If you need to
 connect with JDBC it is possible to create a SQL view to combine all
 analytics partitions and perform aggregation using group by statements.

 If we do not hear strong objections within a week we will remove data
 mart for version 2.21.


 regards,

 Lars




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Re: [Dhis2-users] Option value code

2015-08-27 Thread Nami Ghadri
Sorry 

 

Forgot to mention that I am using 2.19 version

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Abyot Gizaw [mailto:aby...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:00 PM
To: Nami Ghadri
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Option value code

 

Hello Nami,

 

That should be a bug, will check and fix.

 

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Thank you,

Abyot.

 

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_gha...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello dears,

 

I made a program and tracker data element 

 

For the data element I set the option set and of course for the option set 
there is options

 

After data entry and in the program report under value field it shows the 
option code instead of option name

 

Any guidance I would be thankful

 

Please photo 

 

Regards,

 

 




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