Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Indicator totals count is incorrect

[Calle Hedberg]

Nayeem

I agree with your approach for those examples, although using the data
element aggregation type might not cater for all types of indicators (ref
for instance where numerator and denominator have different aggregation
types, or where one of them are some type of group membership count, or
indicators where you only want a result if the numerator or denominator is
above a threshold, or where one of them is offset in time). With the DHIS
increasingly used for e.g. survey data, sample data, case-based tracker
data etc etc, we need a more versatile indicator processing where all forms
of aggregation are either blocked (if clearly not correct/relevant) or else
yield correct results.

The issues have been on the agenda for a long time now, and I hope it will
be finally resolved in 2.31. What's needed is to ensure e.g. the SL demo
instance have examples of all types of indicators (and the underlying
data), then to verify that any relevant aggregation yields correct values.

Regards
Calle

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 16:50, Nayeem Al Mifthah  wrote:

> Hi Calle
> Hope you doing well.
>
> You are correct in a sense of different analytics type may required for
> indicator aggregation :-)
>
> There are better and easy way to calculate. If you minutely look at my
> earlier mail, probably you identify that, I have written to perform
> aggregation according to aggregation type of the particular data element,
> which might be sum, average, average (sum in organisation unit hierarchy
> etc.). After that the indicator calculation should done.
>
> Probably my earlier mail have difficulties to understand due to only one
> example. Let me give another example as well-
>
> Probably there is a data element for number of doctors posted in an health
> facility with aggregation type average (sum in organisation unit hierarchy)
> and another data element for number of patient visited with aggregation
> type sum.
>
> Now you might have the below data table-
>
> Hospital A, January, Doctor posted- 6
> Hospital A, February, Doctor posted- 4
> Hospital A, March, Doctor posted- 6
>
> Hospital A, January, Patient visited- 3000
> Hospital A, February, Patient visited- 4000
> Hospital A, March, Patient visited- 6000
>
> Hospital B, January, Doctor posted- 40
> Hospital B, February, Doctor posted- 50
> Hospital B, March, Doctor posted- 80
>
> Hospital B, January, Patient visited- 4
> Hospital B, February, Patient visited- 3
> Hospital B, March, Patient visited- 4
>
> ___
> If you want to calculate average number of patient seen by one doctor, you
> can find-
> Hospital A in January- 500
> Hospital A in February- 1000
> Hospital A in March- 1000
>
> Now if you want to make the same indicator for first quarter there is no
> way to calculate from 500, 1000, and 1000. There average is 833 which is
> not actually expected result, even the sum 2500 is not also expected value.
>
> The best way is to make sum of patient as per the aggregation type of the
> data element which gives (3000+4000+6000)= 13000 and make average number of
> doctor posted for the period (6+4+6)/3= 5.33. Now if we done the
> calculation for the indicator we found 13000/5.33= 2439 patient has been
> seen averagely by one doctor in first quarter.
> ___
>
> Again, if you want to calculate the same indicator for-
> Hospital A in January- 500
> Hospital B in January- 1000
>
> Now, if you want to calculate for Hospital A and B together, there is no
> way to find desired value from 500 and 1000. The average is 750 and sum is
> 1500 which are not expected.
>
> The desired output should be (Patient visited hospital A in January, 3000
> + Patient visited hospital B in January, 4) / (Doctor posted in
> Hospital A, 6 + Doctor posted in hospital B, 40).
> Result 43000/46 = 934 patient per doctor.
> ___
>
> The same way of calculation is also applicable for indicators which build
> in combination of organization unit, program indicators and others.
>
> Sorry for the long mail, but hope it clarifies. :-)
>
> Regards-
> *Nayeem Al Mifthah*
> *Health Information Systems Specialist*
> Support to the National HMIS
> MIS, Directorate General of Health Services
> Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, Bangladesh
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>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:22 AM Calle Hedberg 
> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> This has been repeated ad nauseam - as you say, most health indicators
>> should in general be calculated as sum(numerator)/sum(denominator), whether
>> it's aggregated in the time or in the geographic dimension. That is because
>> most aggregated data elements used to calculate indicators are counts of
>> many discrete events.
>>
>> Yes, we need some alternative processing for
>> - "number only" indicators (aka 

Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

[Bob Jolliffe]

Hi Randy

I am not sure who is responsible for maintaining that portal demo, but
perhaps one of the reasons it has fallen into disrepair is that this is
really not a good example to follow.  If you look at the page source you
will notice that the credentials to access the objects (admin:district) in
this case are in plain view.  You couldn't really do it like this for a for
a production server.  There have been cases where people have slavishly
followed this example and created serious vulnerabilities in some very
large dhis2 implementations.

I am not sure what would be the best approach if you did want to do this.
I suspect the correct thing to do would be to make use of special location
blocks in the web proxy server to expose particular items (charts, maps,
etc) without authentication.  That of course could be a little trickier to
setup and maybe explains why it  hasn't been done yet in the demo.

Regards
Bob



On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 17:50, Wilson, Randy  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> Thanks for clarifying. This is exactly the portal demo I was referring to.
> We would like to embed such objects in the MOH public website here in
> Rwanda.
> Randy
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, 15:00 Sarah Searle,  wrote:
>
>> I think Randy is referring to the demo of DHIS 2 objects embedded in an
>> external website, referred to and linked to as a "portal":
>> https://play.dhis2.org/portal/
>>
>> I also have noticed that this no longer functions, and that embedding
>> analytic objects externally seems generally less supported lately, although
>> it continues to appear in the documentation. Perhaps these features will be
>> enhanced as Analytics continues to be overhauled in future versions.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:51 AM Seth Okeyo  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Randy,
>>>
>>> For demo you can use:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://play.dhis2.org/2.29/dhis-web-dashboard/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> username: admin
>>>
>>> password: district
>>>
>>>
>>> it works. if not then clear your cookies on the browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Seth Okeyo*| Data Management Officer
>>>
>>> Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative – Africa Regional Office
>>>
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>>> - 00505| Nairobi | Kenya
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>>> dndi_seth.okeyo
>>>
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>>> rwil...@msh.org>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:23:27 PM
>>> *To:* dhis2-users
>>> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It seems the demo portal on DHIS2.org is not working - no data appears.
>>> Has this been abandoned?  If not you should probably check the API settings
>>> and probably update the graphic with the new 2.30 graphic objects.
>>>
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Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

[Wilson, Randy]

Hi Sarah,
Thanks for clarifying. This is exactly the portal demo I was referring to.
We would like to embed such objects in the MOH public website here in
Rwanda.
Randy

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, 15:00 Sarah Searle,  wrote:

> I think Randy is referring to the demo of DHIS 2 objects embedded in an
> external website, referred to and linked to as a "portal":
> https://play.dhis2.org/portal/
>
> I also have noticed that this no longer functions, and that embedding
> analytic objects externally seems generally less supported lately, although
> it continues to appear in the documentation. Perhaps these features will be
> enhanced as Analytics continues to be overhauled in future versions.
>
> Best,
> Sarah
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:51 AM Seth Okeyo  wrote:
>
>> Dear Randy,
>>
>> For demo you can use:
>>
>>
>> https://play.dhis2.org/2.29/dhis-web-dashboard/index.html
>>
>>
>> username: admin
>>
>> password: district
>>
>>
>> it works. if not then clear your cookies on the browser.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *Seth Okeyo*| Data Management Officer
>>
>> Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative – Africa Regional Office
>>
>> Tetezi Towers, 3rd Floor, George Padmore Road, Kilimani|  P.O. Box 21936
>> - 00505| Nairobi | Kenya
>>
>> T: +254 020 3995000 | M: +254 727 389 149| sok...@dndi.org | skype:
>> dndi_seth.okeyo
>>
>> *Best Science for the Most Neglected* | www.dndi.org
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Dhis2-users > dndi@lists.launchpad.net> on behalf of Wilson, Randy > >
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:23:27 PM
>> *To:* dhis2-users
>> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It seems the demo portal on DHIS2.org is not working - no data appears.
>> Has this been abandoned?  If not you should probably check the API settings
>> and probably update the graphic with the new 2.30 graphic objects.
>>
>> --
>> *Randy Wilson*
>> *Team Leader: **Knowledge Management, Data Use and Research*
>> Rwanda Health System Strengthening Activity
>> Management Sciences for Health
>> Rwanda-Kigali
>> Direct: +250 788308835
>> E-mail: rwil...@msh.org
>> Skype: wilsonrandy_us
>> 
>> Stronger health systems. Greater health impact.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

[Sarah Searle]

I think Randy is referring to the demo of DHIS 2 objects embedded in an
external website, referred to and linked to as a "portal":
https://play.dhis2.org/portal/

I also have noticed that this no longer functions, and that embedding
analytic objects externally seems generally less supported lately, although
it continues to appear in the documentation. Perhaps these features will be
enhanced as Analytics continues to be overhauled in future versions.

Best,
Sarah


On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:51 AM Seth Okeyo  wrote:

> Dear Randy,
>
> For demo you can use:
>
>
> https://play.dhis2.org/2.29/dhis-web-dashboard/index.html
>
>
> username: admin
>
> password: district
>
>
> it works. if not then clear your cookies on the browser.
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Seth Okeyo*| Data Management Officer
>
> Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative – Africa Regional Office
>
> Tetezi Towers, 3rd Floor, George Padmore Road, Kilimani|  P.O. Box 21936 -
> 00505| Nairobi | Kenya
>
> T: +254 020 3995000 | M: +254 727 389 149| sok...@dndi.org | skype:
> dndi_seth.okeyo
>
> *Best Science for the Most Neglected* | www.dndi.org
>
> --
> *From:* Dhis2-users  dndi@lists.launchpad.net> on behalf of Wilson, Randy 
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:23:27 PM
> *To:* dhis2-users
> *Subject:* [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working
>
> Hi all,
>
> It seems the demo portal on DHIS2.org is not working - no data appears.
> Has this been abandoned?  If not you should probably check the API settings
> and probably update the graphic with the new 2.30 graphic objects.
>
> --
> *Randy Wilson*
> *Team Leader: **Knowledge Management, Data Use and Research*
> Rwanda Health System Strengthening Activity
> Management Sciences for Health
> Rwanda-Kigali
> Direct: +250 788308835
> E-mail: rwil...@msh.org
> Skype: wilsonrandy_us
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

[Seth Okeyo]

Dear Randy,

For demo you can use:


https://play.dhis2.org/2.29/dhis-web-dashboard/index.html


username: admin

password: district


it works. if not then clear your cookies on the browser.


Regards

Seth Okeyo| Data Management Officer
Drugs for Neglected Diseases initiative – Africa Regional Office
Tetezi Towers, 3rd Floor, George Padmore Road, Kilimani|  P.O. Box 21936 - 
00505| Nairobi | Kenya
T: +254 020 3995000 | M: +254 727 389 149| 
sok...@dndi.org | skype: dndi_seth.okeyo
Best Science for the Most Neglected | www.dndi.org


From: Dhis2-users  on 
behalf of Wilson, Randy 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 3:23:27 PM
To: dhis2-users
Subject: [Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

Hi all,

It seems the demo portal on DHIS2.org is not working - no data appears.  Has 
this been abandoned?  If not you should probably check the API settings and 
probably update the graphic with the new 2.30 graphic objects.

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[Dhis2-users] DHIS-2 demo portal not working

[Wilson, Randy]

Hi all,

It seems the demo portal on DHIS2.org is not working - no data appears.
Has this been abandoned?  If not you should probably check the API settings
and probably update the graphic with the new 2.30 graphic objects.

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Rwanda Health System Strengthening Activity
Management Sciences for Health
Rwanda-Kigali
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E-mail: rwil...@msh.org
Skype: wilsonrandy_us

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Unapproved data is visible for users not assigned the "View Unapproved Data" permission

[Rajeswari Gottipati]

Hi DHIS team,

Could you please provide an update for the above reported issue.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Preeti Ajgaonkar 
wrote:

> Hi team,
>
> Recently we have been noticing that users who have not been assigned with
> the "View unapproved data" permission are able to see unapproved data in
> reporting apps i.e. Pivot tables, Data Visualizers and event reports. We
> have been seeing this since DHIS 2.27 onwards. Could you please let us know
> if this could be a bug or if there is any resolution to this?
>
> --
> Thanks
> Preeti Ajgaonkar
>



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Re: [Dhis2-users] Script to identify which war version a backup was on

[Knut Staring]

Would be nice if the different versions could be stored in the database -
perhaps with a timestamp for each time it has been restarted? I guess it is
in the log, but few people store logs along their backups.

Knut

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:46 AM Elmarie Claasen  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Is there any script to use in order to identify which war version a backup
> file was last started up with? And if so from which version is this
> available?
>
>
>
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Metadata audit for user class

[Morten Olav Hansen]

Which version are you on? in older versions of dhis2 it was still using our
struts actions for user edits... which means no metadata imports (using the
new importer)

I think it might be available from 2.30 only

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On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 3:53 PM Martin Van Aken 
wrote:

> Just tested - I don't get anything related to users. The rest is working
> really well, even with basic filter options. Having a better view on users
> would be really useful. Morten could you confirm it should work with User
> (I sort of half remember that Users where sort of a metadata class but a
> quite specific one).
>
> Martin
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:30 AM Morten Olav Hansen 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin
>>
>> Any kind of metadata change should be logged, that said.. I'm not 100%
>> sure if it gives you enough information, I'm working on a bit more flexible
>> approach in 2.31.
>>
>> That said, it should be enough already.. just know that it will log -a
>> lot- (there is no filter functionality)
>>
>> --
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>> Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
>> Team Integration Lead
>> University of Oslo
>> http://www.dhis2.org
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:58 PM Barnabas Akumba 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>>
>>> Not sure if Metadata Audit takes note of user account modifications.
>>> A quick check would be to enable it, modify an existing user account and
>>> check the Metadata audit end point to see if the modification is logged or
>>> not.
>>>
>>> Please share your experience with us when done.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 3:30 PM Martin Van Aken 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 Can the Metadata audit feature work for modification to Users? Ie, is
 User a metadata in this case? We have situations where rights where
 added/removed and we are asked to check who did the modification for
 auditing purposes.

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[Dhis2-users] Script to identify which war version a backup was on

[Elmarie Claasen]

Hi all,



Is there any script to use in order to identify which war version a backup
file was last started up with? And if so from which version is this
available?



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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Calculation indicator for some organisation unit in the formula

[Carlos Nyembwe]

Hi Lars,

I’m not sure because, yesterday I tried it only in demo but nothing.

Regards

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 3:32 PM Lars Helge Øverland  wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> this has now been fixed in latest build of 2.28, 2.29 and 2.30.
>
> Thanks for reporting.
>
> best,
>
> Lars
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 15:06, Stéphan Mestach 
> wrote:
>
>> Looks similar to what I've reported :
>> http://dhis-developers-list.1563109.n2.nabble.com/Indicator-that-counts-the-number-of-orgunits-within-a-group-by-region-td7613915.html
>>
>> No news since then. Currently I don't have access to the logs of the
>> dhis2 server (hosted by a third party).
>> May be a having a stacktrace might help them identify the issue.
>>
>> Stéphan
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Carlos Nyembwe 
>> wrote:
>>
> Hi dev,
>>>
>>> Since version 2.26, we have noticed in the analysis of our indicators
>>> containing the number of organizational units in the formula, and when we
>>> want to display the PivotTable by placing the organizational units either
>>> in columns or online , the process is only turning and not results, but
>>> with the previous versions, we had tables that were displayed and now they
>>> are not displayed anymore.
>>>
>>> We submitted the problem not as a result.
>>>
>>> So, how can I solve this problem?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 12:44 PM Carlos Nyembwe 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 I have a problem in my system, I need to use an indicator just for some
 organisation unit, now it's big problem in my mind, I can't to solve it.

 who can help me?

 Thanks

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