Re: [Dhis2-users] Skip logic not working on custom form in Event capture app

2014-11-10 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Would it maybe make sense to make a new format for the custom forms that
are Angular-dependent? With Angular, the custom forms could potentially
become much more powerful? Or is backward compatibility critical?

Lars

2014-11-10 10:14 GMT+01:00 Abyot Gizaw aby...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Yes things are different as the app is made with AngularJS. I was talking
 with Pooben to modify scope/model outside Angularjs ... unfortunately it
 didn't work ... but promised Pooben that I will look his case sometime
 today ... it is just that I have a lot at my hand right now.

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 Thank you,
 Abyot.

 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Elmarie,

 the code in event capture is different from the old module. Abyot what do
 you think? I guess you will have your developer look at this again and look
 for errors in the javascript console of the browser.

 regards,

 Lars


 On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Elmarie Claasen elma...@hisp.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 We have developed a Tracked entity database (single event without
 registration) and since that option is no longer available under individual
 records we are now using the event capture app. The problem we re currently
 having is that we had one of our developers write script to skip certain
 fields depending on the value captured in the previous questions.

 This previously worked fine under individual records but when the custom
 form (with skip logic) is added to the event capture app we are unable to
 save a form.

 Can anyone assist? Not sure if this is a bug or an error in how we set
 it up.

 Elmarie Claasen
 HISP-SA
 Cell 0823742209
 Tel 0413640757

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] dhis2 system administration list

2014-10-09 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi,

I did some analysis of the email messages on our dev and users lists (for
research purposes), not looking at the content, but at the number of
messages and number of people.

Since 2011, the number of 'listeners' to these lists have grown
tremendously, although the number of messages has remained quite constant
(I only counted messages sent from people, not machines so not counting
automated messages).

This leads me to believe that maybe we could have a discussion on how these
lists could work better. Could it be that there are many people out there
who maybe would like to ask questions but are afraid to do so because
several hundred people will get their email? For some type of questions,
would other formats be better? Stackexchange-like messaging? Forum-based
messaging? Jason has a good point with this. But different discussions have
different 'optimal' media...

Anyway, I'm jus throwing this into the discussion. To keep to the topic, I
think a sysadm list could be useful.

Best regards,
Lars



2014-10-09 13:34 GMT+02:00 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com:

 Hi Bob,
 I see the need, but am a bit concerned about establishing another mailing
 list. You can see from the dev list, that there are A LOT of non-dev topics
 already. Some of these are implementation issues, some end-user support,
 and a small smattering of Java jabberwocky. The dev list has sort of become
 the default mailing list for everything, and this is where people tend to
 go for support. The user list receives much less traffic, in spite of the
 fact that most of what is on the dev list is really not development
 related. While I think it is a good idea, there is inertia to overcome.

 Another idea which we have been contemplating is the establishment of a
 forum. This came out of the meeting in Oslo a few weeks back. I have been
 working with Lars Helge on this, but there is some more work which needs to
 be done before it would even be ready for testing. However,maybe a forum
 would be a better media for such discussions?

 Regards,
 Jason


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Alex Tumwesigye atumwesi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Brilliant idea.
 Let's go for it.

 Alex

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all

 Steven Uggowitzer recently raised the idea with me to create a system
 administrators list.  Aimed at backend sort of things relating to the
 operating system, security, database tuning, dhis2-tools, virtual machine
 images etc.

 Those geeky sort of things which are not about java development or about
 users as such, but all the stuff that needs to happen in between.

 I said I'd run it by our extended community and try and gauge interest.
 Please reply in this thread if you think its a good idea (or not).  If
 there is sufficient interest we can look at setting up.

 Cheers
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Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS2 mobile java error

2014-03-04 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi,

can you give us the version of the DHIS2 server  you are using, and whether
you're using the newest J2ME client or an older build?

You find the build revision number of the DHIS instance under Profile -
About DHIS2.

Best regards,
Lars


2014-03-04 15:17 GMT+01:00 tasokwa nkhonjera tasonkhonj...@gmail.com:

 Hello guys,
 i am having a problem with DHIS2 mobile aggregate.jar. am able to install
 it on my nokia C3 phone, even logging in is fine am able to reach a point
 were am required to put a 4 digit pin, but when i do this its giving me an
 error as follows:
 Null Pointer Java/lang/Null pointer exception. how can i solve this?

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Maps of outbreaks

2014-02-15 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
A slight detour of the thread, but how about a server side apps part for
gsoc. So we can process the web api on the server on behalf of the client.
For non javascript enabled clients such as SMS and mobile light? Server
side javascript or other...

And a json db for apps would be nice. Instead of just settings... That
would have been good during the inf5750 group work.

Lars
15. feb. 2014 20:06 skrev Saptarshi Purkayastha sun...@gmail.com
følgende:

 One could indeed make an app for appsetting management since devs can
 already save/retrieve settings for apps by using the usersettings or
 systemsettings web api.
 Knut, I think its quite feasible for this app to be built during gsoc
 3-month timeline.
 This app can also help create convention on how apps should name their
 settings.
 Something like settings.appname.settingkey can be managed through the
 app's UI

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 Regards,
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 On 16 February 2014 00:23, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Jim - I will try to find time to get more Data Entry ideas into a
 Blueprint.

 Also very much like your thoughts about extending the current bare-bones
 app management in DHIS2 to include configuration of each app - maybe
 something for GSoC?

 Knut


 On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Jim Grace jimgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Knut,

 Nice thoughts about more flexible data entry forms pivoting in
 different dimensions. And given how much easier the auto-generated forms
 are than designing your own, it would be great to expand the number of
 cases that one can use auto-generated forms for. Developing a detailed
 proposal for this sounds like a very useful effort. Any takers?

 I quite agree that we should provide tools for people who are not
 programmers allowing them to configure what they want. My question about
 the appropriate use of apps isn't really focused on when do we expect users
 to write their own. It's more the question of when are features provided in
 the core vs. when are they provided in the app store.

 Speaking of which, if we provide general-purpose, configurable apps in
 the app store, I wonder how we can provide a user-friendly way to customize
 app metadata through DHIS, so the user wouldn't have to edit the manifest
 file inside the app. We could extend the DHIS UI to be able to configure
 app-specific metadata settings for an app that has been uploaded. I wonder
 if the app manifest itself could describe the various system settings
 choices to be made (e.g., the allowable numeric range of a metadata
 setting, the list of choices, etc.) I'm not familiar enough yet with the
 app manifest format to know whether it supports this already, or how
 awkward it might be to graft it on. I known that OpenMRS modules, for
 example, can add their own settings section to the OpenMRS UI, so they can
 be configured through OpenMRS. The end result is that the non-programmer
 user can simply download an OpenMRS module, install it, and then configure
 it through the OpenMRS UI. The equivalent for DHIS apps could be very
 useful. Or should the app include its own configuration screens, and the
 configuration data is somehow stored in DHIS? (I apologize for my lack of
 knowledge about apps.)

 Cheers,
 Jim


 On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the thoughts, Jim. Some comments below.

 On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jim Grace jimgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Knut,

 It sounds to me like a natural for an app (as you mentioned). If we
 had Start date and End date in a YEARLY dataset, that might
 preclude two outbreaks (by any other name) for the same year and same
 organisation unit, so that might not be the best method for data entry.
 (And outbreaks that span the new year would still have to be entered 
 twice.)


 Quite right, I was already wondering how to handle things that cross
 years. I guess the user should select start and end dates, but these would
 not be stored. Tending towards preserving the information as much as
 possible through using a daily dataset  - this implies lots of (generated)
 datavalues for a long outbreak, but is usually for a limited number of
 orgunits (the total number is over 3000). Monthly data will be interpreted
 to cover all days in the month.


 Interesting idea about entering through time on the same form. I
 wonder what that would look like. Would the periods be columns? Given that
 we already use columns for disaggregations, that might make the form too
 wide -- so maybe the periods would be rows. I wonder how the number of
 periods would be determined -- perhaps specify the number in the form
 design (or in the data set for an automatically-generated form), or maybe
 specify a longer period type and show all periods within the longer
 duration.


 In this particular case there is but one data element and no
 disaggregations, so it could go either way. It really depends on how you
 get your data - sometimes you have lots of data for just one 

[Dhis2-users] Welcome Andreas

2014-01-14 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi all, (sorry for cross-posting)

Andreas Nergaard is joining the DHIS mobile team to coordinate the mobile
requirements and development. Andreas comes from a product management
background and has a lot of experience with mobile client development,
working with operators etc. He will be taking on some of the coordination
tasks I've done (and not done) so that I can work more on my PhD.

I have worked with Andreas before and I'm very happy that he's joining the
team.

Best regards,
Lars

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis-mobile-devs] Testing Mobile module but no data in data entry

2013-12-20 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Yes. I feel embarrassed about this issue... it has taken too long.

MobiLars
20. des. 2013 17:05 skrev Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com
følgende:

 I would not support this as we need the + to send SMS from our service
 provider. I just think DHIS needs to be able to deal with the leading +.
 Again,I think a user configurable regex should help to ensure phone numbers
 are correct for each implementation.

 --Sent from my mobile
 On Dec 20, 2013 6:00 PM, Muhire Andrew muhireand...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi
 Our case was that + of the country code, because after removing it, it
 worked. Interesting part is that we removed the + on the country code
 without adding two zeros but it worked(250 788xx). May be this need to
 be improved. I think we need some validations or output messages on these
 sensitive fields, like phone numbers.

 Here is the error message :No user associated with this phone number.
 Please contact your supervisor.

 As Knut suggests, i think using integer can solve the problem.



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   On Friday, December 20, 2013 3:20 PM, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Not sure what the problem was for you, Andrew?

 I would think we can easily disallow  a leading + sign, in fact, given
 that we start with ISO country code, I think we could require the number to
 be an integer. This means that people must avoid parentheses, spaces etc.,
 which I think is reasonable.


 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
  wrote:


 Is there any way we can improve validation here to assist the user if
 this is a common problem?




 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Muhire Andrew muhireand...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Many thanks Knut, Fixed and working now. Thanks for your quick reaction.




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   On Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:39 PM, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Make sure you don't include a + sign when you register the number for
 the mobile user. I recommend using the full number, including country code
 (but no + or 00 in front).

 Also, the mobile user must have a user role which has access to the
 mobile dataset.


 On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Muhire Andrew muhireand...@yahoo.comwrote:

  Hi all,
 We are testing the Mobile module using android, the configuration of
 gateway is working fine and the message is sent to my testing server but
 the data sent is not in data entry after clicking on re import. I have
 these messages on sent messages : No user associated with this phone
 number, please contact your supervisor.

 I have created the mobile user with all info including the mobile
 phone...Anyone came a cross this?

 I have created sms commands, element codes, assigned the dataset to the
 lowest facility..
 Regards!
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Anyone used DHIS-2 mobile to initiate mobile money payments?

2013-12-18 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi,

in Zambia they have set up a partly manual system to reimburse/incentivize
reporters for the Malaria program. I guess they can give the details as
they are also on the list.

In general I can say that we don't have a USSD connection directly from
DHIS2, though we are very keen to investigate the whole area of
reimbursement etc as part of the DHIS mobile project. We would need the
DHIS2 server to have a mobile modem supporting USSD/SMS.

Those who were implementing this in Zambia found that there were no
standardized interfaces for doing this reimbursement on the network side,
and the way they got around it I think was to install a mobile modem which
could do SMS and USSD, and use an external program to run through a list of
USSD/SMS commands (these were generated by a custom script in DHIS2). They
are doing this on a different machine than the one that hosts DHIS2.
Depending on the hosting situation and which OS the gateway-software runs
on, it may be easier to do as they have done. To generate scripts on DHIS2
which are run on another machine that has network connectivity for
SMS/USSD.


Lars



2013/12/18 Wilson,Randy rwil...@msh.org

  In Rwanda we are exploring the possibility of paying community health
 workers incentive payments (PBF) via Mobile Money for effectively tracking
 pregnant women using the RapidSMS system.  For example those who reported
 an average of 7 or more pregnancy-related messages per pregnant woman
 reported would receive a certain amount, while those reporting 4-6 would
 get less, and 3 or less would get no incentive payment.



 We have already worked out how to transfer the data into the DHIS-2 from
 RapidSMS (updating phone number lists and importing datavalues to calculate
 the average number of pregnancy related messages per community health
 worker), but we’re not sure if DHIS-2 supports sending of USSD messages
 that are used for mobile banking transactions.  Has anyone done this before?



 Alternately, we could generate a report and send as an Excel sheet to the
 mobile carriers and have them initiate the transfers, but would then need a
 way to import the confirmation of payments back into the system since I
 suppose people with broken phones would not be able to receive their
 payments even if they are sent.



 This is still at the discussion stage, but we would like to build on
 experiences of those who may have tried this before.



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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] SMS Gateway

2013-11-12 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Could you attach a screenshot of the SMS command config + the SMS service
configuration screen?

Something that is not well documented is that the SMS Service has to be
running. You see this in the 'SMS service configuration' screen.

[image: Innebygd bilde 1]
Best regards,
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2013/11/12 riddy ndoma riddynd...@gmail.com

 Hello,
 I just sent the data from SMS gateway. In the SMS system arrived as shown
 in the attached image, I wanted to see the data that I sent at Dataentry
 but I see nothing.

 My SMS command is bound to a dataset that is collected weekly, when I send
 specify the period, so today's date.

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] SMS Gateway

2013-11-12 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
You need to define an SMS service for outgoing SMS for the SMS parsing to
work. It's paradoxical sorry, but that's probably the problem. Try defining
an HTTP service. Just enter some URL, a user name and password. And make
sure it's started. Then try again. Jerome are working on some slides that
outline this. We'll send out shortly.


2013/11/12 riddy ndoma riddynd...@gmail.com

 hi @Lars,
 Here in the attachment!


 2013/11/12 Lars Kristian Roland l...@roland.bz

 Could you attach a screenshot of the SMS command config + the SMS service
 configuration screen?

 Something that is not well documented is that the SMS Service has to be
 running. You see this in the 'SMS service configuration' screen.

 [image: Innebygd bilde 1]
 Best regards,
 Lars


 2013/11/12 riddy ndoma riddynd...@gmail.com

 Hello,
 I just sent the data from SMS gateway. In the SMS system arrived as
 shown in the attached image, I wanted to see the data that I sent at
 Dataentry but I see nothing.

 My SMS command is bound to a dataset that is collected weekly, when I
 send specify the period, so today's date.

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] sms gateway for android

2013-10-26 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Mobile terminated (DHIS to SMS) works if the android is on a wifi ip that
dhis2 has access to.

For mobile originated (from mobile to dhis), it is simpler.  Only needs
internet with http access to the server, so server could be in cloud.
26. okt. 2013 13:13 skrev Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com
følgende:

 This looks like a useful tool. Is it possible to use this as a means of
 sending SMSes which are sent from the DHIS2 server via the local network
 (to which the android device is connected)? It would seem you would need a
 public IP to do this, but if the android is somehow connected to the DHIS2
 server, I guess there is no means to push these messages directly to the
 Android device. I do not think any device is going to have a public IP.

 Regards,
 Jason



 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just to add, attached is a manual for the Android app:




 On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi,

 just wanted to highlight a nifty Android app which you can set up as a
 standalone SMS gateway for testing the SMS functionality in DHIS 2. Its
 made by Lars Roland - you can get it from google 
 playhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dhis2.androidsmsor 
 from here:

 http://www.dhis2.org/appstore

 The app basically looks for incoming SMS arriving at the Android phone,
 parses them to look for keywords and forwards these messages to your DHIS 2
 server using HTTP. You can configure a list of SMS commands that should be
 forwarded to DHIS 2.

 If you for example have created an SMS called 'Report' command within
 DHIS 2 under Mobile Configuration - SMS Commands, and you configure the
 app to forward any SMS starting with 'Report' to DHIS 2, you can use this
 to test data entry by sending for example 'Report A1 B2 C3' to your mobile
 phone.

 If your Android phone has an IP address that is accessible to your DHIS
 2 server you can also use this Android App to send SMS messages from DHIS 2
 to users. The URL to configure into DHISv2 is shown on the bottom of the
 app screen when running the app. This URL is configured in Mobile
 Configuration - SMS Service Configuration - Add Gateway - Generic HTTP
 Gateway inside DHIS 2.

 regards,

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Re: [Dhis2-users] From 'District' to 'Decentralized' and 'Software' to 'System'

2013-05-02 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
As an example of an abbreviation that has changed meaning, I would mention
GSM, which I believe first meant Group Speciale Mobile (excuse my french)
and later Global System for Mobile communication.

I would support Prosper's observation that District may not cover the
distributed system that DHIS2 has become.

MobiLars
On 2013 5 2 15:12, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is indeed a long history, as Jason points out, and the district
 focus took its inspiration from the WHO Alma Ata Declaration from 1978 and
 its focus on Primary Health Care and Health For All
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Ata_Declaration

 Furthermore, the very first versions of DHIS came out of close
 collaboration with three pilot districts in Cape Town:
 http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/hisp-history.html
 http://folk.uio.no/patrickr/refdoc/BraaHedberg02.pdf

 http://www.mn.uio.no/ifi/english/research/networks/hisp/integrated-health-information-architecture.html

 However, by this stage, it seems to me that the acronym DHIS has also
 acquired quite an identity of its own, a bit like e.g. IBM, a name much
 like others, which could be used without necessarily going into what it
 stands for.

 Knut



 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jason Pickering 
 jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Proper,

 Remember, with open source software, you are free to call it what you
 want! I know of a private company who has now forked DHIS2 and are calling
 it something entirely different, for their own reasons. In other countries,
 DHIS2 has been  branded differently, according to their own acronyms.

 I would however, not expect a change on this, given the long history. :)

 My two cents,
 Jason



 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Prosper BT ptb3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear team,

 Quite often end users especially below and above the district level have
 asked Why 'District' and we have struggled to explain this by first telling
 history. In passing someone suggested renaming District to Decentralized
 and Software to System.

 What it if in respect of maintaining the acronym it becomes
 Decentralized Health Information System - DHIS?

 'Don't kill the messenger'


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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] DHIS2 Mobile

2013-03-09 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Thats great to hear Ojo. Please let us know how things proceed and make 
sure you give us input on new features and improvements.


Lars

On 09.03.2013 14:11, John Ojo wrote:

Hi All,

This is just to share with you that we have successfully set up the 
mobile reporting functionality of DHIS2 for a project in Nigeria. I am 
grateful to you all for the guidance you provided. I feel so empowered 
now. Thanks to you good folks.


Best reagrds,
John
*John Ojo MD, FMCPH
*
Accra, Ghana.
Mobile: +233 234691626
Skype:  Johnojo
Email: jn...@yahoo.com mailto:j...@corridor-sida.org


*From:* Lars Kristian Roland l...@roland.bz
*To:* Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com
*Cc:* DHIS developers dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net; John Ojo 
jn...@yahoo.com; dhis1-users dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:23 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] DHIS2 Mobile

Hi,
I would also recommend using the j2me, but I think it is a good idea 
that you implement sms in parallel. There are many existing and 
upcoming features on sms that may be useful. One is that you can fall 
back to using sms as a transport instead of gprs, though gprs works 
well in most contexts. Additionally, if you have smaller data sets, 
these would work well on sms. You can also use sms for messaging and 
alerts.
But as your general route for those data sets, j2me is probably the 
best option. Note that j2me works best when you buy the phones, so you 
can test that it works as expected.

Lars
On 2013 2 27 20:13, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com 
mailto:knu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi John,

For your scenario, SMS would not work well. It seems to me that the
J2ME solution (for feature phones such as many Nokias, e.g. 2690 or
C2-02) could be the best option. They also of course have much better
battery duraiton than smartphones.

Knut

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com
mailto:jn...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Olav,

 Thanks once again.

 We are starting with two data sets with the plan to add more as
time goes on
 and users become more comfortable using the system. Eventually,
we hope to
 have about 4-5 data sets.

 There's likely to be values for most fields every period. We
anticipate
 blank fields to be no more than 1 to 5% every period.

 Can our scenario fit the SMS option? Please what is the
procedure for
 setting up the SMS reporting system. Does it work with version 2.10?

 Thank you.
 John


 
 From: Olav Poppe olav.po...@me.com mailto:olav.po...@me.com
 To: John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com mailto:jn...@yahoo.com
 Cc: DHIS developers dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net
mailto:dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net; dhis1-users
 dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:02 AM

 Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS2 Mobile

 Hi,
 see replies below.

 27. feb. 2013 kl. 07:46 skrev John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com
mailto:jn...@yahoo.com:


 - what type of phones will be used: do the phones support java?
If it is
 smartphones, do they use a browser that supports offline storage?
 I am yet to assess the phones available on the market. However,
it is likely
 that the phones will support Java at the minimum. We will also
want to
 benefit from the offline data entry capabilities of DHIS2 so we
will most
 likely use phones that support offline storage.

 - do you require support for offline data entry?
 Yes. Could you please kindly explain how this can impact my case
if the
 response is yes or no.


 Any phone that supports the java-client will also support
offline data
 entry. Also, newer smartphones supports offline data entry in
the browser
 (others on the dev/user list might know the exact requirements
for the
 browser/phone). If offline support is not a requirement, you
have the option
 of accessing DHIS2 using a mobile browser on a regular
non-smart phone. If
 you require offline support, the java client or smartphone
browser are the
 options. Using the browser rather than java-client will likely
be easier to
 administer, but how important that is depends on how many phones
will be
 used.


 - how much data are they supposed to enter? If it is only a few data
 elements, the new SMS reporting might be an option.
 The data is not much. for each data set, we are talking about
between 35 to
 40 data elements.


 How many data sets? Is there likely to be values for most fields
every
 period, or will most of them be blank? If only a few values will
be sent
 every week/month, structured SMS might

Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] DHIS2 Mobile

2013-02-27 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi,

I would also recommend using the j2me, but I think it is a good idea that
you implement sms in parallel. There are many existing and upcoming
features on sms that may be useful. One is that you can fall back to using
sms as a transport instead of gprs, though gprs works well in most
contexts. Additionally, if you have smaller data sets, these would work
well on sms. You can also use sms for messaging and alerts.

But as your general route for those data sets, j2me is probably the best
option. Note that j2me works best when you buy the phones, so you can test
that it works as expected.

Lars
On 2013 2 27 20:13, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi John,

 For your scenario, SMS would not work well. It seems to me that the
 J2ME solution (for feature phones such as many Nokias, e.g. 2690 or
 C2-02) could be the best option. They also of course have much better
 battery duraiton than smartphones.

 Knut

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:07 PM, John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hi Olav,
 
  Thanks once again.
 
  We are starting with two data sets with the plan to add more as time
 goes on
  and users become more comfortable using the system. Eventually, we hope
 to
  have about 4-5 data sets.
 
  There's likely to be values for most fields every period. We anticipate
  blank fields to be no more than 1 to 5% every period.
 
  Can our scenario fit the SMS option? Please what is the procedure for
  setting up the SMS reporting system. Does it work with version 2.10?
 
  Thank you.
  John
 
 
  
  From: Olav Poppe olav.po...@me.com
  To: John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com
  Cc: DHIS developers dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net; dhis1-users
  dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:02 AM
 
  Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS2 Mobile
 
  Hi,
  see replies below.
 
  27. feb. 2013 kl. 07:46 skrev John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com:
 
 
  - what type of phones will be used: do the phones support java? If it is
  smartphones, do they use a browser that supports offline storage?
  I am yet to assess the phones available on the market. However, it is
 likely
  that the phones will support Java at the minimum. We will also want to
  benefit from the offline data entry capabilities of DHIS2 so we will most
  likely use phones that support offline storage.
 
  - do you require support for offline data entry?
  Yes. Could you please kindly explain how this can impact my case if the
  response is yes or no.
 
 
  Any phone that supports the java-client will also support offline data
  entry. Also, newer smartphones supports offline data entry in the browser
  (others on the dev/user list might know the exact requirements for the
  browser/phone). If offline support is not a requirement, you have the
 option
  of accessing DHIS2 using a mobile browser on a regular non-smart
 phone. If
  you require offline support, the java client or smartphone browser are
 the
  options. Using the browser rather than java-client will likely be easier
 to
  administer, but how important that is depends on how many phones will be
  used.
 
 
  - how much data are they supposed to enter? If it is only a few data
  elements, the new SMS reporting might be an option.
  The data is not much. for each data set, we are talking about between 35
 to
  40 data elements.
 
 
  How many data sets? Is there likely to be values for most fields every
  period, or will most of them be blank? If only a few values will be sent
  every week/month, structured SMS might be an option.
 
 
 
  Thank you so much.
 
  Best regards.
  John
 
  John Ojo MD, FMCPH
  Accra, Ghana.
  Mobile: +233 234691626
  Skype:  Johnojo
  Email: jn...@yahoo.com
 
  
  From: Olav Poppe olav.po...@me.com
  To: John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com
  Cc: DHIS developers dhis2-d...@lists.launchpad.net; dhis1-users
  dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] DHIS2 Mobile
 
  Hi John,
  there are quite a few options for reporting to DHIS2 using mobile phones,
  can you give us a bit more information about your case:
  - is this aggregate data or case-based data?
  - what type of phones will be used: do the phones support java? If it is
  smartphones, do they use a browser that supports offline storage?
  - do you require support for offline data entry?
  - how much data are they supposed to enter? If it is only a few data
  elements, the new SMS reporting might be an option.
 
  Regards
  Olav
 
  26. feb. 2013 kl. 17:51 skrev John Ojo jn...@yahoo.com:
 
  Dear All,
 
  I need to enable field workers in a country to be able to report into a
  DHIS2  (version 2.10) database using mobile phones.
  Please, I need a step-by-step instructions on how to go about achieving
  this.
 
  I will appreciate your kind assistance in this direction.
 
  Thank you.
  John.
 
  John Ojo MD, FMCPH
  Accra, Ghana.
  Mobile: +233 234691626
  Skype:  Johnojo
  Email: jn...@yahoo.com
  

Re: [Dhis2-users] Offline data entry for individual records

2013-02-15 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
The mobile java client supports offline dataentry, but the user interface is a 
bit specific to a certain use case (so we are are making a new mobile java 
client which will have richer functionality).

Lars

---
Lars Kristian Roland

On 15. feb. 2013, at 21:09, Ola Hodne Titlestad ol...@ifi.uio.no wrote:

 Hi Victor,
 
 You are right, there is no offline support in Tracker data entry. We plan to 
 support this in 2.11 for the single event without registration program type.
 
 Ola
 ---
 
 On 15 Feb 2013 14:56, Victor Garcia vgarcia...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I just want to make sure that there is no way to introduce individual data 
 when the internet connection is lost and send it when the connection is back 
 (in the same way that is done with aggregate data).
 
 If someone has faced this issue and know an alternative, please tell.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Víctor
 
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Building legacy mobile in 2.10

2013-02-05 Thread Lars Kristian Roland

Hi David,

you are looking for the function of being able to send an SMS from the 
user (not a client), to DHIS2 with for example a monthly report, right? 
Not the J2ME client with SMS transport?


Sending SMS with reports is certainly supposed to be supported in DHIS, 
but Magnus (cc) can hopefully help you set this up. Our Vietnam mobile 
development team are on holiday for a week or so, and when they come 
back they can help you also.


Best regards,
Lars

On 05.02.2013 21:38, Dave Trombley wrote:

Following the instructions at http://dhis2.org/mobile, we are
trying to build the legacy (SMS transport) client.  This is failing
due to incorrect POM version numbers:

 [ERROR]   The project org.hisp.dhis:dhis-service-sms:2.9-SNAPSHOT
(/home/dtrombley/NetBeansProjects/DHIS/2.10-TRUNK/dhis-mobile/dhis-service-sms/pom.xml)
has 1 error
[ERROR] Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
org.hisp.dhis:dhis-services:pom:2.9-SNAPSHOT and 'parent.relativePath'
points at wrong local POM @ line 7, column 13 - [Help 2]


When I change all the version numbers to 2.10, to match the
dependency in the project, and also fix the parent path to point to
the correct place (the extra directory dhis-mobile causes it to not be
found), the compilation takes place, but immediately fails with a
parser error:


[ERROR] 
/home/dtrombley/NetBeansProjects/DHIS/2.10-TRUNK/dhis-mobile/dhis-web-sms/src/main/java/org/hisp/dhis/mobile/action/ReceiveImportPageAction.java:[34,31]
error: package org.hisp.dhis.mobile.sms does not exist
[ERROR] 
/home/dtrombley/NetBeansProjects/DHIS/2.10-TRUNK/dhis-mobile/dhis-web-sms/src/main/java/org/hisp/dhis/mobile/action/ReceiveImportPageAction.java:[35,35]
error: package org.hisp.dhis.mobile.sms.api does not exist
[ERROR] 
/home/dtrombley/NetBeansProjects/DHIS/2.10-TRUNK/dhis-mobile/dhis-web-sms/src/main/java/org/hisp/dhis/mobile/action/ReceiveImportPageAction.java:[43,4]
error: cannot find symbol
...


Is the legacy SMS still supported in 2.10?   If so, what is the
correct way to build it?

Thanks,
  -David

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Lowest cost mobile phone for facility reporter and program tracker

2012-07-04 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
The cheapest Nokia we typically recommend is c1-01, but if you go for the
c2 with a larger screen, you get a better experience at not much higher
cost. We are also testing some low cost chinese brands, but these differ
between countries so it is difficult to say exactly. If you go to a mobile
shop and get some local models and prices, we can help tell you which are
feasible.

Lars
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 Dear all,

 What barnd/model of mobile phone would you recommend for community health
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Secure remote access

2012-03-09 Thread Lars Kristian Roland
Hi Mark,

I'd use HTTPS/SSL for web access and definitely use SSH (preferably using
both certificates and passwords) for server access (for people
administering the linux installations).

Even if you may not strictly need HTTPS/SSL, it covers your back in case
there was an attempted attack. Not using it might be seen as unprofessional
by many.

A large part of security for the server is also to keep it up to date with
security patches. This is often forgotten. And of course backups etc, which
is also a security precaution.

Note that if you're using the mobile clients, this may put some extra
requirements on which SSL certificate registrars you use, as the cheaper
ones give errors or simply don't work on mobile phones. So although
Verisign and Thawte are more expensive, it might be worth using these.

Lars



2012/3/9 Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com

 Hi Mar,

 Personally, I would be much more concerned about the security of the
 server itself. I get dozens of attempted forced entry attempts on
 servers I manage each day. I know servers where DHIS2 has been setup
 have been taken over due to weak passwords on the server.

 It really depends on the security requirements of the organization.
 DHIS password requirements are pretty insecure (at least 8 characters,
 one caps, one number) and well known, so of course, this is a
 weakness. This of course could be changed to suit your own needs, but
 would require alteration of the source code to do so. Best to get an
 exact security requirement from them.

 Regards,
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 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Mark Spohr mhsp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for this
  Some here are worried about unauthorized  access to the system using
 easily
  guessed names and password combos.
  Has that been a problem?
 
  Mark Spohr MD
 
  On Mar 8, 2012 8:28 PM, Jason Pickering jason.p.picker...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  I think you answered your own question. I use  HTTPS for end users, as
  it does not require them to do anything, and VPN in situations where
  direct access to the remote database may be required.
 
  There is some information in the user manual on setting up DHIS with
  SSL/HTTPS.
 
  For Apache, some stuff is here
 
 
 
 http://apps.dhis2.org/ci/job/dhis-documentation/ws/target/site/en/implementer/html/ch10s04.html#d5e1011
 
  For Nginx, some more info is here
 
 
 
 http://apps.dhis2.org/ci/job/dhis-documentation/ws/target/site/en/implementer/html/ch08s02.html
 
  For VPN,I would reccomend OpenVPN . A little tricky to setup, but
  extremely powerful and secure.
 
  https://openvpn.net
 
 
  Regards,
  Jason
 
 
  On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Mark Spohr mhsp...@gmail.com wrote:
   What strategies do people use for securing DHIS over the internet?
   VPN?
   HTTPS?
  
   Mark Spohr MD
  
  
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