Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Difference between attribute and disaggregate option for category combos

2015-10-14 Thread Lars Helge Øverland 
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Elmarie Claasen  wrote:

> Hi Lars,
>
>
>
> Thanks that is what I did.
>
> A general question – Isn’t this a way to easily add targets for certain
> data elements with known denominators eg population by setting up a dataset
> with e.g. Yearly or Quarterly period and then capture the target values as
> dataset attributes rather than create a new data element for the target
> which makes analysis more tricky since you need to link the 2 data elements
> to each other somehow?
>
>
>

Hi Elmarie,

yes that would be a feasible approach.

The downside is that if you now load this data element in pivot
tables/charts, by default you will get the real value + the target. So for
people who are not aware of this target dimension/category, they might see
values twice as high as that they would expect.

So it works given that this is handled through user training or other ways.

Lars




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>
>
>
> *Elmarie Claasen*
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>
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> *From:* Lars Helge Øverland [mailto:larshe...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 October 2015 02:00 PM
> *To:* Elmarie Claasen
> *Cc:* DHIS 2 Developers list; DHIS 2 Users list
> *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-devs] Difference between attribute and disaggregate
> option for category combos
>
>
>
> Hi Elmarie,
>
>
>
> the data dimension type on category and category combo indicates whether
> you want to use these as disaggregation categories (linked to data
> elements) or attribute categories (linked to data sets). So attributes
> refers to data set categories.
>
>
>
> If you would like to create a data set category (e.g. one category option
> for "preliminary" and one for "validated"), then you need to set these to
> "attribute". So:
>
>
>
> Category combo: "Output type" - data dimension set to "attribute".
>
> Category: "Output type" -  data dimension set to "attribute".
>
> Category options: "Preliminary output" and "Validated output".
>
>
>
> You can now assign the "Output type" category combo to your data set, and
> the data entry screen will allow you to choose between preliminary and
> validated before entering data.
>
>
>
> regards,
>
>
> Lars
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Elmarie Claasen  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I need to set up a dhis2 instance in which we want to capture the data for
> specific month twice e.g. preliminary output and validated output. We don’t
> need those to be added together as usual in a data element category
> combination.
>
>
>
> I have been looking into dataset category combinations but that looks a
> lot similar in the manual to attributes. Would like clarity on the
> difference between using disaggregate or attribute when selecting data
> dimension on a catcombo.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions on alternatives would be welcome J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Elmarie Claasen*
>
> [image: Hisp logo]
>
> Project Manager
>
> Health Information Systems Program
>
> Tel:  041-367 1027
>
> Cell: 082 374 2209
>
> E-mail: elma...@hisp.org
>
> Skype:  elmarie.claasen52
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Difference between attribute and disaggregate option for category combos

2015-10-14 Thread Elmarie Claasen 
Hi Lars,

 

Thanks that is what I did. 

A general question – Isn’t this a way to easily add targets for certain data 
elements with known denominators eg population by setting up a dataset with 
e.g. Yearly or Quarterly period and then capture the target values as dataset 
attributes rather than create a new data element for the target which makes 
analysis more tricky since you need to link the 2 data elements to each other 
somehow?

 

Regards,

 

Elmarie Claasen

Hisp logo

Project Manager

Health Information Systems Program

Tel:  041-367 1027

Cell: 082 374 2209

E-mail:   elma...@hisp.org

Skype:  elmarie.claasen52 

 

 

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From: Lars Helge Øverland [mailto:larshe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2015 02:00 PM
To: Elmarie Claasen
Cc: DHIS 2 Developers list; DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] Difference between attribute and disaggregate option 
for category combos

 

Hi Elmarie,

 

the data dimension type on category and category combo indicates whether you 
want to use these as disaggregation categories (linked to data elements) or 
attribute categories (linked to data sets). So attributes refers to data set 
categories.

 

If you would like to create a data set category (e.g. one category option for 
"preliminary" and one for "validated"), then you need to set these to 
"attribute". So:

 

Category combo: "Output type" - data dimension set to "attribute".

Category: "Output type" -  data dimension set to "attribute".

Category options: "Preliminary output" and "Validated output".

 

You can now assign the "Output type" category combo to your data set, and the 
data entry screen will allow you to choose between preliminary and validated 
before entering data.

 

regards,


Lars

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Elmarie Claasen  wrote:

Hi all,

 

I need to set up a dhis2 instance in which we want to capture the data for 
specific month twice e.g. preliminary output and validated output. We don’t 
need those to be added together as usual in a data element category 
combination. 

 

I have been looking into dataset category combinations but that looks a lot 
similar in the manual to attributes. Would like clarity on the difference 
between using disaggregate or attribute when selecting data dimension on a 
catcombo. 

 

Any suggestions on alternatives would be welcome J

 

Regards,

 

Elmarie Claasen

Hisp logo

Project Manager

Health Information Systems Program

Tel:  041-367 1027

Cell: 082 374 2209

E-mail:   elma...@hisp.org

Skype:  elmarie.claasen52 

 

 

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Re: [Dhis2-users] [Dhis2-devs] Difference between attribute and disaggregate option for category combos

2015-10-13 Thread Lars Helge Øverland 
Hi Elmarie,

the data dimension type on category and category combo indicates whether
you want to use these as disaggregation categories (linked to data
elements) or attribute categories (linked to data sets). So attributes
refers to data set categories.

If you would like to create a data set category (e.g. one category option
for "preliminary" and one for "validated"), then you need to set these to
"attribute". So:

Category combo: "Output type" - data dimension set to "attribute".
Category: "Output type" -  data dimension set to "attribute".
Category options: "Preliminary output" and "Validated output".

You can now assign the "Output type" category combo to your data set, and
the data entry screen will allow you to choose between preliminary and
validated before entering data.

regards,

Lars



On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Elmarie Claasen  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I need to set up a dhis2 instance in which we want to capture the data for
> specific month twice e.g. preliminary output and validated output. We don’t
> need those to be added together as usual in a data element category
> combination.
>
>
>
> I have been looking into dataset category combinations but that looks a
> lot similar in the manual to attributes. Would like clarity on the
> difference between using disaggregate or attribute when selecting data
> dimension on a catcombo.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions on alternatives would be welcome J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Elmarie Claasen*
>
> [image: Hisp logo]
>
> Project Manager
>
> Health Information Systems Program
>
> Tel:  041-367 1027
>
> Cell: 082 374 2209
>
> E-mail: elma...@hisp.org
>
> Skype:  elmarie.claasen52
>
>
>
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