Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
Great, thanks for the explanation. I’ll submit the docs pull request / Jira today. Regards Ed From: Jason Pickering [mailto:jason.p.picker...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 10:26 AM To: Edward Robinson Cc: Nayeem Al Mifthah ; Lars Helge Øverland ; DHIS 2 Users list Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question Hi Ed, I think it is a "bug" in the documentation. The explanation as it stands is unclear and seems to be misleading. This integrity check simply looks (or should based on its description) for data elements which are not part of any groups. This is not intrinsically a problem, but can present issues if people want to filter data elements in the pivot tables, it can be come confusing. Please feel free to submit a pull request to the docs, or create a JIRA ticket and we will try and fix it as soon as we can. Regards Jason On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: Thanks Nayeem, Lars and team, could you weigh in on this? Thank you Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com<mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 7:14 PM To: Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> Cc: DHIS 2 Users list mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question I see, the explanation is bit confusing. I have used same data element in several groups from 2.3 to 2.27 and never faced any problem in analytics. Nayeem Al Mifthah Consultant for HSS, Health MIS, M&E Email: n.mift...@gmail.com<mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com> Cell:+8801914030574 Skype: nayeem.a.m On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: Apologies, I mean since 2.20 and possibly before… Regards Ed From: Edward Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Nayeem Al Mifthah' mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com>> Cc: DHIS 2 Users list mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: RE: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the manual)? Regards Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com<mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM To: Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> Cc: DHIS 2 Users list mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_dataIntegrity.html 19.1.2. Data elements without groups Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. Is that a typo? Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to more than one group? Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Ed ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Jason P. Pickering email: jason.p.picker...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.p.picker...@gmail.com> tel:+46764147049 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
Hi Ed, I think it is a "bug" in the documentation. The explanation as it stands is unclear and seems to be misleading. This integrity check simply looks (or should based on its description) for data elements which are not part of any groups. This is not intrinsically a problem, but can present issues if people want to filter data elements in the pivot tables, it can be come confusing. Please feel free to submit a pull request to the docs, or create a JIRA ticket and we will try and fix it as soon as we can. Regards Jason On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Edward Robinson < erobin...@projectbalance.com> wrote: > Thanks Nayeem, > > > > Lars and team, could you weigh in on this? > > Thank you > > Ed > > > > > > *From:* Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 October 2017 7:14 PM > > *To:* Edward Robinson > *Cc:* DHIS 2 Users list > *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question > > > > I see, the explanation is bit confusing. I have used same data element in > several groups from 2.3 to 2.27 and never faced any problem in analytics. > > > *Nayeem Al Mifthah* > *Consultant for HSS, Health MIS, M&E* > Email: n.mift...@gmail.com > Cell:+8801914030574 <+880%201914-030574> > > Skype: nayeem.a.m > > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Edward Robinson < > erobin...@projectbalance.com> wrote: > > Apologies, I mean since *2.20* and possibly before… > > Regards > > Ed > > > > *From:* Edward Robinson > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:55 PM > *To:* 'Nayeem Al Mifthah' > *Cc:* DHIS 2 Users list > *Subject:* RE: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question > > > > Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is > incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you > saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the > manual)? > > Regards > > Ed > > > > *From:* Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM > *To:* Edward Robinson > *Cc:* DHIS 2 Users list > *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question > > > > A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. > > > > On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" > wrote: > > From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_ > dataIntegrity.html > > *19.1.2. Data elements without groups* > > Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. > This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of > linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated > data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element > identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. > > Is that a typo? > > Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been > assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to > more than one group? > > Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list > don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. > > > > Could someone clarify? > > Thanks, > > Ed > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Jason P. Pickering email: jason.p.picker...@gmail.com tel:+46764147049 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
Thanks Nayeem, Lars and team, could you weigh in on this? Thank you Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 7:14 PM To: Edward Robinson Cc: DHIS 2 Users list Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question I see, the explanation is bit confusing. I have used same data element in several groups from 2.3 to 2.27 and never faced any problem in analytics. Nayeem Al Mifthah Consultant for HSS, Health MIS, M&E Email: n.mift...@gmail.com<mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com> Cell:+8801914030574 Skype: nayeem.a.m On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: Apologies, I mean since 2.20 and possibly before… Regards Ed From: Edward Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Nayeem Al Mifthah' mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com>> Cc: DHIS 2 Users list mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: RE: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the manual)? Regards Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com<mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM To: Edward Robinson mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> Cc: DHIS 2 Users list mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net>> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_dataIntegrity.html 19.1.2. Data elements without groups Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. Is that a typo? Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to more than one group? Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Ed ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
I see, the explanation is bit confusing. I have used same data element in several groups from 2.3 to 2.27 and never faced any problem in analytics. *Nayeem Al Mifthah* *Consultant for HSS, Health MIS, M&E* Email: n.mift...@gmail.com Cell:+8801914030574 Skype: nayeem.a.m On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Edward Robinson < erobin...@projectbalance.com> wrote: > Apologies, I mean since *2.20* and possibly before… > > Regards > > Ed > > > > *From:* Edward Robinson > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:55 PM > *To:* 'Nayeem Al Mifthah' > *Cc:* DHIS 2 Users list > *Subject:* RE: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question > > > > Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is > incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you > saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the > manual)? > > Regards > > Ed > > > > *From:* Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM > *To:* Edward Robinson > *Cc:* DHIS 2 Users list > *Subject:* Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question > > > > A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. > > > > On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" > wrote: > > From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_ > dataIntegrity.html > > *19.1.2. Data elements without groups* > > Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. > This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of > linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated > data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element > identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. > > Is that a typo? > > Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been > assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to > more than one group? > > Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list > don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. > > > > Could someone clarify? > > Thanks, > > Ed > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the manual)? Regards Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM To: Edward Robinson Cc: DHIS 2 Users list Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_dataIntegrity.html 19.1.2. Data elements without groups Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. Is that a typo? Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to more than one group? Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Ed ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
Apologies, I mean since 2.20 and possibly before… Regards Ed From: Edward Robinson Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:55 PM To: 'Nayeem Al Mifthah' Cc: DHIS 2 Users list Subject: RE: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question Thanks for the feedback Nayeem, are you saying that the manual is incorrect (it’s been like that since 2.16 and possibly before)? Or are you saying it’s possible despite it creating issues (as mentioned in the manual)? Regards Ed From: Nayeem Al Mifthah [mailto:n.mift...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2017 3:46 PM To: Edward Robinson Cc: DHIS 2 Users list Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" mailto:erobin...@projectbalance.com>> wrote: From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_dataIntegrity.html 19.1.2. Data elements without groups Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. Is that a typo? Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to more than one group? Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Ed ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
A data element can be assigned to multiple data element groups. On 24 Oct 2017 4:24 pm, "Edward Robinson" wrote: > From the manual: https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_ > dataIntegrity.html > > *19.1.2. Data elements without groups* > > Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. > This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of > linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated > data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element > identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. > > Is that a typo? > > Is “Data elements without groups” not for data elements that have not been > assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to > more than one group? > > Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list > don’t appear to be assigned to any groups. > > > > Could someone clarify? > > Thanks, > > Ed > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Dhis2-users] Data integrity question
>From the manual: >https://docs.dhis2.org/2.26/en/user/html/dataAdmin_dataIntegrity.html 19.1.2. Data elements without groups Some Data Elements have been allocated to several Data Element Groups. This is currently not allowed, because it will result in duplication of linked data records in the analytics record sets that provide aggregated data. Go to Maintenance -> Data Element Groups to review each Data Element identified and remove the incorrect Group allocations. Is that a typo? Is "Data elements without groups" not for data elements that have not been assigned to a group instead of data elements that have been assigned to more than one group? Looking at the data set on my side, the elements that appear in that list don't appear to be assigned to any groups. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Ed ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
