[Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Daniel Bridges

Hi DHIS team,

Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility 
layer and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11). 
Would it be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download 
based on whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem 
to work this way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google 
image is too big, but a lot of users want to create facility maps...


I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed 
'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many 
are confused by this term.


Thanks
Dan

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Jan Henrik Øverland
The facility layer is different from the other layers as it displays images
by reference, i.e. the images are not SVG shapes. We know a lot of users
want to create facility maps, and it might be possible to include them in
the download somehow, but so far we have not prioritized it as there is a
print screen button on most keyboards..

Quantiles is the correct term as far as I know, but I agree that it
might be confusing. Let's change it to Equal numbers.

Jan




On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Bridges dbrid...@akrosresearch.com
 wrote:

 Hi DHIS team,

 Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility layer
 and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11). Would it
 be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download based on
 whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem to work this
 way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google image is too big,
 but a lot of users want to create facility maps...

 I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed
 'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many are
 confused by this term.

 Thanks
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Lars Helge Øverland
Hi Dan,

yes we could easily use SVG for icons and then embed them in the download.
Only problem is that IE8, which we still officially support, uses viewport
to render maps and does not support SVG out of the box. Eventually we will
scrap support for IE8 but not immediately..

Lars




On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Bridges dbrid...@akrosresearch.com
 wrote:

  Jan,

 Thanks for the feedback. Guessed that there would be a good reason for the
 facility layer not showing. I know that in theory it should be easy to
 perform a screen capture, but unfortunately I think this might be hard to
 ensure people can make a screen capture and remember to do so just for this
 use case. I am no programmer, but if there is a way to make this happen I
 think it would help a lot of users who otherwise will think the system is
 broken and perhaps not engage with it as a result.

 Would it also be possible to add in a pdf download option for maps as it
 can be higher definition (like the data visualiser downloads)?

 'Equal numbers' would help a lot - thanks

 Cheers
 Dan


 On 11/04/13 11:42, Jan Henrik Øverland wrote:

 The facility layer is different from the other layers as it displays
 images by reference, i.e. the images are not SVG shapes. We know a lot of
 users want to create facility maps, and it might be possible to include
 them in the download somehow, but so far we have not prioritized it as
 there is a print screen button on most keyboards..

  Quantiles is the correct term as far as I know, but I agree that it
 might be confusing. Let's change it to Equal numbers.

  Jan




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

 Hi DHIS team,

 Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility layer
 and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11). Would it
 be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download based on
 whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem to work this
 way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google image is too big,
 but a lot of users want to create facility maps...

 I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed
 'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many are
 confused by this term.

 Thanks
 Dan

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Jason Pickering
I think the usual terminology for this would be Equal counts.

Quintiles is not the correct word though, except when the population would
be divided into 5 parts.

Regards,
Jason



On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Dan,

 yes we could easily use SVG for icons and then embed them in the download.
 Only problem is that IE8, which we still officially support, uses viewport
 to render maps and does not support SVG out of the box. Eventually we will
 scrap support for IE8 but not immediately..

 Lars




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

  Jan,

 Thanks for the feedback. Guessed that there would be a good reason for
 the facility layer not showing. I know that in theory it should be easy to
 perform a screen capture, but unfortunately I think this might be hard to
 ensure people can make a screen capture and remember to do so just for this
 use case. I am no programmer, but if there is a way to make this happen I
 think it would help a lot of users who otherwise will think the system is
 broken and perhaps not engage with it as a result.

 Would it also be possible to add in a pdf download option for maps as it
 can be higher definition (like the data visualiser downloads)?

 'Equal numbers' would help a lot - thanks

 Cheers
 Dan


 On 11/04/13 11:42, Jan Henrik Øverland wrote:

 The facility layer is different from the other layers as it displays
 images by reference, i.e. the images are not SVG shapes. We know a lot of
 users want to create facility maps, and it might be possible to include
 them in the download somehow, but so far we have not prioritized it as
 there is a print screen button on most keyboards..

  Quantiles is the correct term as far as I know, but I agree that it
 might be confusing. Let's change it to Equal numbers.

  Jan




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

 Hi DHIS team,

 Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility
 layer and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11).
 Would it be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download
 based on whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem to
 work this way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google image is
 too big, but a lot of users want to create facility maps...

 I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed
 'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many are
 confused by this term.

 Thanks
 Dan

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Re: [Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Knut Staring
Agree with Jason - Equal counts sounds best.

Quintiles are just one specific type of quantiles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Jason Pickering 
jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the usual terminology for this would be Equal counts.

 Quintiles is not the correct word though, except when the population would
 be divided into 5 parts.

 Regards,
 Jason



 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Lars Helge Øverland 
 larshe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Dan,

 yes we could easily use SVG for icons and then embed them in the
 download. Only problem is that IE8, which we still officially support, uses
 viewport to render maps and does not support SVG out of the box. Eventually
 we will scrap support for IE8 but not immediately..

 Lars




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

  Jan,

 Thanks for the feedback. Guessed that there would be a good reason for
 the facility layer not showing. I know that in theory it should be easy to
 perform a screen capture, but unfortunately I think this might be hard to
 ensure people can make a screen capture and remember to do so just for this
 use case. I am no programmer, but if there is a way to make this happen I
 think it would help a lot of users who otherwise will think the system is
 broken and perhaps not engage with it as a result.

 Would it also be possible to add in a pdf download option for maps as it
 can be higher definition (like the data visualiser downloads)?

 'Equal numbers' would help a lot - thanks

 Cheers
 Dan


 On 11/04/13 11:42, Jan Henrik Øverland wrote:

 The facility layer is different from the other layers as it displays
 images by reference, i.e. the images are not SVG shapes. We know a lot of
 users want to create facility maps, and it might be possible to include
 them in the download somehow, but so far we have not prioritized it as
 there is a print screen button on most keyboards..

  Quantiles is the correct term as far as I know, but I agree that
 it might be confusing. Let's change it to Equal numbers.

  Jan




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

 Hi DHIS team,

 Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility
 layer and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11).
 Would it be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download
 based on whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem to
 work this way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google image is
 too big, but a lot of users want to create facility maps...

 I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed
 'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many are
 confused by this term.

 Thanks
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Re: [Dhis2-users] Downloaded map doesn't show all layers and use of term Quintiles

2013-04-11 Thread Jan Henrik Øverland
We never used quintiles, we used quantiles like mapfish does. Something
more understandable is probably better, so I'll let the English tongues
decide. Seems like there is a consensus on equal counts then.


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Knut Staring knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agree with Jason - Equal counts sounds best.

 Quintiles are just one specific type of quantiles:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantile


 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Jason Pickering 
 jason.p.picker...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the usual terminology for this would be Equal counts.

 Quintiles is not the correct word though, except when the population
 would be divided into 5 parts.

 Regards,
 Jason



 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Lars Helge Øverland larshe...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Dan,

 yes we could easily use SVG for icons and then embed them in the
 download. Only problem is that IE8, which we still officially support, uses
 viewport to render maps and does not support SVG out of the box. Eventually
 we will scrap support for IE8 but not immediately..

 Lars




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

  Jan,

 Thanks for the feedback. Guessed that there would be a good reason for
 the facility layer not showing. I know that in theory it should be easy to
 perform a screen capture, but unfortunately I think this might be hard to
 ensure people can make a screen capture and remember to do so just for this
 use case. I am no programmer, but if there is a way to make this happen I
 think it would help a lot of users who otherwise will think the system is
 broken and perhaps not engage with it as a result.

 Would it also be possible to add in a pdf download option for maps as
 it can be higher definition (like the data visualiser downloads)?

 'Equal numbers' would help a lot - thanks

 Cheers
 Dan


 On 11/04/13 11:42, Jan Henrik Øverland wrote:

 The facility layer is different from the other layers as it displays
 images by reference, i.e. the images are not SVG shapes. We know a lot of
 users want to create facility maps, and it might be possible to include
 them in the download somehow, but so far we have not prioritized it as
 there is a print screen button on most keyboards..

  Quantiles is the correct term as far as I know, but I agree that
 it might be confusing. Let's change it to Equal numbers.

  Jan




 On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Bridges 
 dbrid...@akrosresearch.com wrote:

 Hi DHIS team,

 Not sure if this is deliberate or not, but not all layers (facility
 layer and google background) are shown when one downloads a map (v2.11).
 Would it be possible for these layers to appear (or not) in the download
 based on whether that layer is toggled on or off? All other layers seem to
 work this way. Any chance this can be unified? Perhaps the google image is
 too big, but a lot of users want to create facility maps...

 I was also wondering if the automatic legend method currently termed
 'Quintiles' would be more user friendly if termed 'Equal numbers'? Many 
 are
 confused by this term.

 Thanks
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