Re: eye-icon

2013-04-13 Thread Hans Breuer

At 13.04.2013 15:28, Andrey Repin wrote:

Greetings, vwf!


This window can be confusing. One improvement can be the use of two
icons for active/off (gray-out), instead of switching an icon on/off.


If you're familiar with GIMP, you won't have any confusion.
May be a small addition to the list control tool, to make all layers
visible/hidden (and one more to reset linking states back to current layer
only for all layers) would help.

Toggling on/off for all the other layers is done by shift-click (like in 
GIMP and as described in Dia' manual for layer visibility).



In that same window the arrow-icon on/off remains a confusing event for
me: when I select a layer, other icons switch on/off in respons.


This is intentionally: by default only the active layer's objects are 
connectable.

This is a long-standing issue. Me, personally, I would prefer the link states
be stored for each layer separately.


They are stored for every layer separately, see:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/dia/tree/lib/diagramdata.h#n107


Finally, it can be very hard to find out on which layer an item is.



Maybe the diagram tree would help?


Depends, what you are doing with your diagram.


No problem with two layers, but my current diagram has 6 and when I placed
an item on the wrong layer it requires some layer on/off switching to
find out on what layer it went.


Same is true for many other programs that use layers.


Or to rephrase that: what would be your idea to improve the situation?

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Re: How to change page size to selection size SOLVED WITH WORKAROUND

2013-04-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 19:38:16 +0200
Hans Breuer h...@breuer.org wrote:

 At 11.04.2013 06:26, Steve Litt wrote:
  On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:43:02 +0200
  Hans Breuerh...@breuer.org  wrote:
 
  At 10.04.2013 20:48, Steve Litt wrote:
 [...]
 
  As you know, previous Dia versions had a size to selection
  button for page size, but current versinos got rid of that
  feature.[...]
 
  You said that before and apparently are not aware of my answer:
  https://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/2013-February/msg00031.html
 
  It does not become more true by prefixing that statetment with As
  you know. At least I am not aware of any size to selection
  button having been available in Dia in the last twelve years.
  Please be more specific what you did before - especially how - and
  what is not working anymore in which version.
 
 
  I'll tell you what Hans,
 
  I'll go to the not inconsiderable trouble of:
 
  1) Find a spare computer
  2) Find a copy of Ubuntu 10.04 or whatever
  3) Take a complete set of screenshots of the facility to size the
  page to selection
  4) Make the screenshots available to the list
 
  I'll do all that if you promise to put back the functionality that
  the screenshots reveal.
 
 The only thing I can promise it that I wont try to fix something that
 I dont understand.
 I have a lot of Dia versions readily available for testing, but I
 simply cant imaginge where you have seen the button you are talking
 about. Maybe you had a custom script or plug-in providing all the
 facility to size the page to selection?
 Also I'm not interested at all in screenshots, so please dont bother
 to create these. Especially not from something which was never part
 of an official Dia version. Screenshots wont help you to get the
 feature back. Finding the source of that feature might.

Whoops. I'm wrong. You're right. Sorry.

I had forgotten how I REALLY used dia back in the old days. I did
further research and found that this size to selection property was
in Inkscape, not dia. 

I used to export dia to svg and then resize the drawing in Inkscape
before converting to .pdf. In order that it size correctly, I'd put a
tiny translucent circle just upper left and lower right of the dia
drawing, in order that the finished .pdf's borders wouldn't touch the
lines of the drawing itself. Then I ran it through my dia2pdf script:

==
#!/bin/bash
dianame=$1
gname=`echo $dianame | sed -e s/\..*$//`
pdfname=$gname.pdf
echo Converting $dianame to $pdfname
inkscape --export-area-drawing --export-pdf=$pdfname $dianame
acroread $pdfname 
==

I'm sorry that my forgetting how I converted caused me to claim a lost
dia feature that never existed.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
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