Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Wednesday, May 22, 2019 08:26:07 AM Zander Brown wrote: > On Mon, 2019-05-20 at 20:53 -0400, rhkramer--- via dia-list wrote: > > On Monday, May 20, 2019 04:42:48 PM Zander Brown wrote: > > > Personally I'm on-board with this kinda bodge-job, esp if it makes > > > use > > > of dia! I mean with all the other outstanding work I'm not going to > > > rush to implement stuff that makes this easier but I do kinda like > > > it > > > > > > Protractor/Ruler is a pretty neat idea though which could be > > > interesting and "measure" has been requested in the past, > > > definitely > > > worth investigating at some point > > > > By googling I found several things that were essentially "virtual > > protractors" > > -- here are two I put in my "notebook". Note that the first does not > > display > > an image of a protractor (and may only measure angles from the > > vertical, which > > may mean that you have to measure two angles and find the > > difference. The > > second displays an image of a protractor. There are others, some > > that only > > > > work in specific applications (e.g., in the Chrome browser): > >* [[ > > > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fosprotra > > ctor.sourceforge.net%2FProtractor.html%5D%5BSimple&data=02%7C01%7C%7C > > 404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7 > > C0%7C636939968428283799&sdata=hZwGgngihi%2F6aLQ6s0FMTElQBXFneSyq1FVm7 > > IkyBac%3D&reserved=0 on-screen > > protractror.]]--afaict, it doesn't show an image of a protractor, > > iiuc, you > > just define some points / lines and then you get the angle, it needs > > Java, at > > least JRE 1.7. > > ` > > On-Screen Protractor is a simple java application that allows to > > measure an > > angle on the screen. > > Originally the program was conceived to assess the angle between > > north and a > > given point on any map open on the screen, therefore the background > > of the > > application window is transparent and the angle is measured from the > > positive > > y-axis and clockwise. The application allows to move the origin of > > reference > > axes and to rotate the axes as needed. > > ' > > > >* [[ > > > > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fredbridg > > eserc.org%2Fresources%2Fentry%2Fvirtual-protractor%5D%5BVirtual&data= > > 02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a > > aaa%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428293804&sdata=F2rtsuCmu0kajgcd5shJxnyNMk > > EZlMU2hdvA0WvwW2k%3D&reserved=0 > > > > protractor]] -- this one shows an image (iiuc), not sure of software > > requirements > > I mean it shouldn't be too hard to implement in Dia as the diagram > already has defined physical dimensions AND we know the scale at which > it's being rendered, just need to hook into that > > Of course this would be implemented in C as aside from being complex to > integrate Java is horrible, esp when we want to be packaged for > Win/macOS > > Really it's just needs to be another overlay like selection boxes > > Unfortunately I just don't have time ATM to work on that right now, > focus is on issue backlog and modernisation rather than new features I can understand that ;-) Thanks for the response! ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Mon, 2019-05-20 at 20:53 -0400, rhkramer--- via dia-list wrote: > On Monday, May 20, 2019 04:42:48 PM Zander Brown wrote: > > Personally I'm on-board with this kinda bodge-job, esp if it makes > > use > > of dia! I mean with all the other outstanding work I'm not going to > > rush to implement stuff that makes this easier but I do kinda like > > it > > > > Protractor/Ruler is a pretty neat idea though which could be > > interesting and "measure" has been requested in the past, > > definitely > > worth investigating at some point > > By googling I found several things that were essentially "virtual > protractors" > -- here are two I put in my "notebook". Note that the first does not > display > an image of a protractor (and may only measure angles from the > vertical, which > may mean that you have to measure two angles and find the > difference. The > second displays an image of a protractor. There are others, some > that only > work in specific applications (e.g., in the Chrome browser): > >* [[ > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fosprotractor.sourceforge.net%2FProtractor.html%5D%5BSimple&data=02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428283799&sdata=hZwGgngihi%2F6aLQ6s0FMTElQBXFneSyq1FVm7IkyBac%3D&reserved=0 > on-screen > protractror.]]--afaict, it doesn't show an image of a protractor, > iiuc, you > just define some points / lines and then you get the angle, it needs > Java, at > least JRE 1.7. > ` > On-Screen Protractor is a simple java application that allows to > measure an > angle on the screen. > Originally the program was conceived to assess the angle between > north and a > given point on any map open on the screen, therefore the background > of the > application window is transparent and the angle is measured from the > positive > y-axis and clockwise. The application allows to move the origin of > reference > axes and to rotate the axes as needed. > ' > >* [[ > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fredbridgeserc.org%2Fresources%2Fentry%2Fvirtual-protractor%5D%5BVirtual&data=02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428293804&sdata=F2rtsuCmu0kajgcd5shJxnyNMkEZlMU2hdvA0WvwW2k%3D&reserved=0 > > protractor]] -- this one shows an image (iiuc), not sure of software > requirements I mean it shouldn't be too hard to implement in Dia as the diagram already has defined physical dimensions AND we know the scale at which it's being rendered, just need to hook into that Of course this would be implemented in C as aside from being complex to integrate Java is horrible, esp when we want to be packaged for Win/macOS Really it's just needs to be another overlay like selection boxes Unfortunately I just don't have time ATM to work on that right now, focus is on issue backlog and modernisation rather than new features > ___ > dia-list mailing list > dia-list@gnome.org > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdia-list&data=02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428293804&sdata=RtxD8v7v8V%2B3vNOVXYxZ8esuq8ugKESkFe%2FaWobZNQM%3D&reserved=0 > FAQ at > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flive.gnome.org%2FDia%2FFaq&data=02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428293804&sdata=lLPyOBP8AhiQixMV%2B1aRZw1XqBY2LZipQU%2FJg3BO1EY%3D&reserved=0 > Main page at > https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flive.gnome.org%2FDia&data=02%7C01%7C%7C404d3dfd51ea4aa05b0208d6dd86d0b5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636939968428293804&sdata=vN7Rs4VJ0nS%2BYxHgSQJuaYC1rS3JNHz%2FBYxe2c0xefI%3D&reserved=0 > -- Zander Brown GNOME Design Tooling (Icon Preview) Dia Diagram Editor signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Monday, May 20, 2019 04:42:48 PM Zander Brown wrote: > Personally I'm on-board with this kinda bodge-job, esp if it makes use > of dia! I mean with all the other outstanding work I'm not going to > rush to implement stuff that makes this easier but I do kinda like it > > Protractor/Ruler is a pretty neat idea though which could be > interesting and "measure" has been requested in the past, definitely > worth investigating at some point By googling I found several things that were essentially "virtual protractors" -- here are two I put in my "notebook". Note that the first does not display an image of a protractor (and may only measure angles from the vertical, which may mean that you have to measure two angles and find the difference. The second displays an image of a protractor. There are others, some that only work in specific applications (e.g., in the Chrome browser): * [[http://osprotractor.sourceforge.net/Protractor.html][Simple on-screen protractror.]]--afaict, it doesn't show an image of a protractor, iiuc, you just define some points / lines and then you get the angle, it needs Java, at least JRE 1.7. ` On-Screen Protractor is a simple java application that allows to measure an angle on the screen. Originally the program was conceived to assess the angle between north and a given point on any map open on the screen, therefore the background of the application window is transparent and the angle is measured from the positive y-axis and clockwise. The application allows to move the origin of reference axes and to rotate the axes as needed. ' * [[http://redbridgeserc.org/resources/entry/virtual-protractor][Virtual protractor]] -- this one shows an image (iiuc), not sure of software requirements ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Tue, 2019-05-14 at 20:59 -0400, rhkramer--- via dia-list wrote: > On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 05:37:27 PM Andrey Repin via dia-list wrote: > > Greetings, rhkramer--- via dia-list! > > > > > I'm planning to make a new stand for my monitor (to get it as > > > close to my > > > desk as possible to relieve my neck ;-). The existing stand > > > leans > > > forward by about 1.5 degrees. I need to cut an angle brace to > > > support > > > the upright with that 1.5 degree forward lean. > > > > That's fine, but I fail to see, how it is related to Dia. > > It's not a CAD program. > > I fail to see what you fail to see. > > I created a diagram of the stand in dia, and then determined the > necessary > angles by counting squares and doing some trig. > > Am I not allowed to use dia to make a diagram? > > (Maybe I should have used Visio instead? ;-) Personally I'm on-board with this kinda bodge-job, esp if it makes use of dia! I mean with all the other outstanding work I'm not going to rush to implement stuff that makes this easier but I do kinda like it Protractor/Ruler is a pretty neat idea though which could be interesting and "measure" has been requested in the past, definitely worth investigating at some point > ___ > dia-list mailing list > dia-list@gnome.org > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.gnome.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fdia-list&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57e523561e3c4a7db07708d6d8d0d419%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636934788757340289&sdata=sLxS4KcUN74DOEA9%2FZpvVza3LHtS8e9UbCGYumujkQY%3D&reserved=0 > FAQ at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flive.gnome.org%2FDia%2FFaq&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57e523561e3c4a7db07708d6d8d0d419%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636934788757340289&sdata=sfrVRWkTr5QpH%2B56vH7ifyUgj36p952JBZqygQnVOOY%3D&reserved=0 > Main page at > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flive.gnome.org%2FDia&data=02%7C01%7C%7C57e523561e3c4a7db07708d6d8d0d419%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636934788757340289&sdata=8AuzaCJ6Zm1EFJLe3XyV5Gl%2FOuvNoasIx%2FsaVx3LJWE%3D&reserved=0 > -- Zander Brown GNOME Design Tooling (Icon Preview) Dia Diagram Editor signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 05:37:27 PM Andrey Repin via dia-list wrote: > Greetings, rhkramer--- via dia-list! > > > I'm planning to make a new stand for my monitor (to get it as close to my > > desk as possible to relieve my neck ;-). The existing stand leans > > forward by about 1.5 degrees. I need to cut an angle brace to support > > the upright with that 1.5 degree forward lean. > > That's fine, but I fail to see, how it is related to Dia. > It's not a CAD program. I fail to see what you fail to see. I created a diagram of the stand in dia, and then determined the necessary angles by counting squares and doing some trig. Am I not allowed to use dia to make a diagram? (Maybe I should have used Visio instead? ;-) ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
Greetings, rhkramer--- via dia-list! > I'm planning to make a new stand for my monitor (to get it as close to my desk > as possible to relieve my neck ;-). The existing stand leans forward by about > 1.5 degrees. I need to cut an angle brace to support the upright with that > 1.5 degree forward lean. That's fine, but I fail to see, how it is related to Dia. It's not a CAD program. -- With best regards, Andrey Repin Wednesday, May 15, 2019 0:36:42 Sorry for my terrible english... ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
On Monday, May 13, 2019 12:26:40 PM Agustin Ferrario via dia-list wrote: > Why don't you use freecad or another CAD tool? There you can give exact > angles I'd have to install and learn something new ;-) (For my (so far) one time use, dia worked. ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia
Why don't you use freecad or another CAD tool? There you can give exact angles From: dia-list on behalf of rhkramer--- via dia-list Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:39 To: dia-list@gnome.org Cc: rhkra...@gmail.com Subject: (1) Rotating drawings in dia, (2) virtual protractor for dia I'm planning to make a new stand for my monitor (to get it as close to my desk as possible to relieve my neck ;-). The existing stand leans forward by about 1.5 degrees. I need to cut an angle brace to support the upright with that 1.5 degree forward lean. To try to get the correct angles, I've drawn a diagram on dia, and I've measured the angles (close enough, I believe) by counting squares and using trigonometry. But, it would have been slightly easier if either: (1) I could rotate my drawing so the legs of the appropriate right triangle were parallel to the grid lines, Afaict, there is no way to rotate a drawing in dia (I couldn't find anything) (2) I could find something that I might call a virtual protractor (I have protractors, somewhere, I just couldn't find any atm). I googled for virtual protractors and they actually exist, but the one I found that looked most promising works only on chrome (apparently). Does anybody (here) know of a virtual protractor that works on dia? These are not desperate needs, because, as I mentioned, I think i've figured them close enough (as close as I can measure / cut them on my saw). Thanks! ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
