Re: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN)

2009-01-01 Thread Brandt, Suzan


-Original Message-
From: Cindy Lemcke-Hoong cindylemcke_ho...@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:10 AM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group 
digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
Subject: Re: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN)


First of all can someone, such as Andy Carvin, come up with a 
to-do/qualifications/expectation etc. list for moderator? Without that, some 
qualified persons might shy away from volunteering.

Cindy

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cindyho...@gmail.com

--- On Tue, 30/12/08, Andy Carvin andycar...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Andy Carvin andycar...@yahoo.com
Subject: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN)
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group 
digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 6:34 PM

Hi Tom,

The problem is that there isn't an official moderator at the moment.
Technically I'm not supposed to be moderating the list anymore because I
work for NPR News and I can't be involved directly in policy discussions,
but the moderating from TakingITGlobal sometimes runs behind. I would suggest
that DDN members try to find three or four people who could share the moderating
duties, and I'm sure the TIG folks would be happy to get them set up. Either
way, I really shouldn't be doing it as long as I work for NPR.


ac


Andy Carvin
andycarvin at yahoo  com
www.andycarvin.com
www.pbs.org/learningnow




- Original Message 
From: tom abeles tabe...@hotmail.com
To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:20:20 PM
Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN


hmm, how long between submission and approval as in this just
released batch of postings.

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Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC

2008-10-13 Thread Brandt, Suzan


-Original Message-
From: Paperless Homework [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:32 PM
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group 
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Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC


Hello steve,

I do generaly agree with your views except that I would like to change this 
little bit..

You said   The real choice is between online learning or
no learning.

It would be more appropriate to rephrase it as
 The real choice is between online/offline learning throug ICT or
no learning.

This is because to say online learning is the only choice for ICT in Education 
is not exactly right. More learning today are learnt through offline than 
online... in many homes and schools around the world. More people are offline 
at anyone time than online.

Another thing, having a computer or two in a telecenter does not mean only 1 or 
2 students may benefit.  That is the old model. Today telecenters can make use 
of 1 or 2 computers to serve entire class of students using projectors etc.  So 
it depends on how you use the computers.

Having one computer for each(as originally intended in the OLPC) is good but in 
more cases than not ...impractical in third world countries (in fact I really 
doubt any third world country).

The real issue of the digital divide as far as schools are concerned today is 
the inabilities to
reach out to the unreached anytime any place and any cost.

We can talk until the cows come home about other issues highlighted by many 
contributors here, without this being solved first, we are like trying to teach 
the rural folks to run before they able able to walk.

Hence to really close the digital divides among nations around the world, look 
into issue of reach... then we can start talking about pedagogy.

Read an article about our initiative here and perhaps most will understand what 
the world is doing and what she lacks as far as trying to reach the unreached 5 
billion.
http://www.govtech.com/dc/articles/270167

Meanwhile we should not forget about the environment impact our current schools 
are contributing to the deteriorating environments filling land fills with 
millions of tons of paper wastes. This in spite of all the high techs.

Read about about a Practical tech not high tech article by a 14 years 
experieced ICT journalist.
www.paperlesshomework.com/surf

Regards
Alan
www.paperlesshomework.com
An elearning solution for rural areas where online/CDs cannot reach.

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--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Steve Eskow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Steve Eskow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC
To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group 
digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 3:55 AM

Hi Tom,
Sorry to be so slow in responding. For some reason I missed this message of
yours when it arrived.

Perhaps it would be useful to put the matter of moving out of what Bourdieu
called
the scholastic enclosure into the new spaces of communication
technology
into an action research mode.

For example: we know that the poor nations aren't going to meet the
Millenium Development Goals for education by erecting buildings to teach and
house those now left untaught. The real choice is between online learning or
no learning.

One question, then, for research is how to bring computers and students
together.

 Sarah talked about community computers. I've used the term
social
computers, to contrast with the taken-for-granted rich country assumption
of the personal computer. The telecentre is one
approach to the social
computer, and it has clear limitations. We can put a computer in a school, a
church, a kiosk, a cafe and it can serve one, three, five students.

Will such an approach do the job? We don't know for sure, but we can try,
keep careful records and report results.

On the matter of pedagogy: perhaps we need a transitional strategy, rather
than insisting that all existing syllabi and curriculum materials and
instructional strategies are hopelessly inadequate, an approach guaranteed
to frighten or threaten or anger many of the faculty whose support we need.
I, for one, would rather make existing instructional strategies made
available via ICT  than nothing at all. Again, we encourage an action
research approach, and we report on how well the traditional pedagogies do
when compared to the new ones that seem more authentic and relevant to us.

Steve


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:19 AM, tom abeles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Steve

 You are right, there are transitions and there are different models. What
 might be appropriate today in Ghana might be different, today in the US.
The
 approach of education planners is to want to eventually find the one
global
 model. Yet with technology, as you suggest, there are many models for
 learning including different approaches from didactic, sage of stage, to a