Re: [DDN] Digital Divide( too many blogs, too little time)

2006-09-12 Thread gerfalcon7
Hello BBracey et. al,
   
  It's no surprise to me that many who discuss the digital divide don't have 
much of a clue as to life in the trenches.  I work with a large population in 
the U.S. near the geographical area you indicate.  It is composed of 
non-English speakers who are not even literate in the language of their country 
of origin.  
   
  The World Health Organization estimates that 1% of the world's adult 
population has access to a computer.  Check their website for more specific 
stats if you are so inclined.
   
   
  The true victory of propaganda occurs when it makes losers feel like 
winners. 


  There is still a digital divide. We don't still have funding for the Digital 
Divide Network based on the proclamation that there is no longer a need but...


Most people are unaware of it because those of us on line forget that there 
are places where there is nothing. Many of the people blogging about the feds 
are my friends.

I probably believe them more than the Feds. But the feds are the ones who 
told us that there was no digital divide. I am a victim of fed sponsored 
separate 
but unequal education. It still affects my life.

Usually people in the majority may have an unawareness of the problems of 
being minority in a mainstream culture that has wealth, influence and power.

You may remember, about six months ago, we had a long discussion about the 
fact that some black activists proclaimed the divide to be over. I wrote an 
essay that talked about the developing changes in the new wave of technology 
that 
are not even at K-12 level, but...

I think you have to look at the variables of the digital divide, but before 
we do that. 

Have you worked in places where people don't have much of anything and the 
schools are bad?. Come to DC. In the home of the Education president, the 
schools are failing, and unfortunately it has nothing much to do with just the 
technology, the variables are set over history, decades of neglect and disdain 
about 'colored' people no matter what color they were. There have been many 
divides in the US that are not about technology. Who cares about DC schools. 
Heck we 
don't even have a vote. Our city belongs to the nation and the nation doesn't 
care about our schools or our political plight. Divide that.

The Navajo may have connectivity in their schools. Many children go to 
boarding schools, and many homes do not have telephones. I can tell you more of 
these tribal stories.

We may want to also think our web sites are not bilingual as others in other 
countries are to facilitate the use of dual language systems.

Probably the economic and education divide affect the  digital divide ' more 
than anything.
It's the reason we have the Black , Hispanic and Asian cultures. Our concerns 
and problems are not always mainstream. Our problems are often pushed aside. 
Higher education studies often only goes to schools in areas of choice. In the 
last school that I worked in DC, the conditions inside the school would be 
oppressive. Think ancient fumes of urine , huge rats and that kind of stuff and 
danger in the neighborhood, and theft.

Digital Divide as a Symptom

Education has always played a central role in human development. While today 
the world accepts universal primary education as an achievable goal, formal 
schooling for everyone is a relatively recent phenomenon. Even when it was 
less formalized or standardized, scientific and technical curiosity helped 
move mankind from the agricultural to the industrial and now into the knowledge 
economy.

 At a personal level, education helps individuals move beyond subsistence 
agriculture, and helps them compete against their peers. However, in today's 
globalized world, the competition is not just with people of the same 
village or region, but across continents.

A century ago, improving transportation was a driving force behind 
globalization. Now, information and communications technology (ICT) is a major 
factor. ICT's role in spurring development is positive, but it has also been 
seen 
as asymmetric. While it has the potential to be the great equalizer and 
democratizer, those who have been left outside its purview, or who fail to 
harness its potential, are increasingly at risk of falling further behind.


In response to increasing concerns about the “digital divide” - the gap 
between those who benefit from digital technologies and those who do not - a 
growing number of technology initiatives have emerged over the past decade, 
realizing the potential of digital technologies to underserved community 
members.

This comes from the work of Dr. Rahul Tongia, at Carnegie Mellon, who goes on 
to say
 The Digital Divide

 The digital divide, however defined, is a stark divide and a challenge
for development  and technology
professionals. It is actually a manifestation of other underlying
divides,  spanning economic, social, geographic, gender, and other
divides.

 Attempting to address  the 

[DDN] multi-lingual coding issues (resubmission)

2006-08-02 Thread gerfalcon7
Alan Gerstle [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that the refusal of Americans to 
take second-language learning seriously is at least a part of the problem.  
While technophiles on all education levels are enthusiastic about learning new 
coding languages and new software, at least those in the United States find it 
anathema to study a second language long enough to become proficient in it.  
This creates not only a divide, but a certain presumption that others should 
learn English.  

Don Osborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recent news that the US government 
has in principle ceded control of ICANN 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/27/ntia_icann_meeting/ is related to an 
issue that seems to get less coverage - that of Internationalized Domain Names 
(IDN) and the interest behind that in a more multilingual internet. Language of 
course is one of the factors of the digital divide and it has been 
particularly problematic in the case of diverse scripts (and, although it is 
often overlooked in discussing writing systems and ICT, even Latin scripts with 
extra letters and diacritics beyond ASCII  ANSI). The Guardian has an 
interesting article exploring this issue in the context of internet governance 
at http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1830481,00.html (excerpts 
below).

I've tended to see IDN as a subset of the larger issues of content, but in a 
way, resloving the technical issues involved in multilingual domain names 
contributes not only to making the web more welcoming to more people and 
peoples, but also to facilitating the processing of more localized content in 
languages that are not yet well represented on the web. Sort of a wedge issue, 
in other words, for the multilingual internet.

Hopefully the new developments with regard to ICANN will help in this process. 

Don  Osborn
Bisharat.net
PanAfrican Localisation Project


Despite everything you may have heard, the global resource we all know as the 
internet is not global at all. Since you are reading this article in English 
you probably won't have noticed, but if your first language was Chinese, 
Arabic, Hindi or Tamil, you would know very different. At most websites you 
visit you will be scrabbling to find a link to a translated version in your 
language, seemingly hidden amid tracts of baffling text. Even getting to a 
website in the first place requires that you master the western alphabet - have 
you ever tried to type .com in Chinese letters?

www.inthetext.com

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