RE: RE: [DDN] Digital Divide, Telecentres and Iraq

2005-05-10 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow



At 8:51 AM -0700 5/9/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
In the case of the powerful drug called a telecenter, there are times and
communities when that drug needs to be delayed or avoided until  there is a
readiness to benefit from it.

Somewhat later Mr. John Hibbs asked:

And, in the instant case - Iraq - perhaps could you tell us what
matrix you would suggest as to when the telecenter would be useful?
Or, when it would be harmful?
--

I know of no such matrix, no formula or check list into which you plug the
variables and press a button to come up with a decision.

There are those who can make such diagnoses at a distance, and without full
knowledge and sense of all the benefits and dangers inherent in a particular
set of social, economic, ethnic, and political circumstances. I am not one
of them.

There are those who believe that the particular ecology of these cultural
forces in a particular time and a particular place are irrelevant: that
telecenters, like food and jobs, are universal goods that always contribute
positively to the communitiesin which they are placed. I am not one of them.

If I had to guess I would guess that telecenters in Iraq that confined their
conversations to one or another of the warring ethnicities, that allowed for
intragroup conversations, would do no harm and might do some good, while
those that tried to generate dialog and reconciliation between those
clashing groups, or between the American presence and those that are trying
to destroy the Americans would do little good at this time, and potential
harm.

Steve Eskow

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RE: RE: [DDN] Digital Divide, Telecentres and Iraq

2005-05-10 Thread John Hibbs
At 8:51 AM -0700 5/9/05, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
In the case of the powerful drug called a telecenter, there are times and
communities when that drug needs to be delayed or avoided until  there is a
readiness to benefit from it.
And, in the instant case - Iraq - perhaps could you tell us what 
matrix you would suggest as to when the telecenter would be useful? 
Or, when it would be harmful?
--
John W. Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

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RE: RE: [DDN] Digital Divide, Telecentres and Iraq

2005-05-09 Thread Dr. Steve Eskow
Dear Ashish Saboo,

Thank you for the courteous disagreement: you show us the kind of
communication that tries to avoid the anger that underlies violence.

I think that after a bit more discussion we would find ourselves agreeing.

You cite Andrew Grove's image of steel, which intrinsically is neither good
nor bad, but can become a revolver or a syringe depending on how society
uses it.

The telecenter, then, like steel, has a potential for harm as well as good.

I find images of medicine more useful to my thinking.

There is no medicine, no wonder drug, that is useful for any ailment, any
patient.

We practitioners need to adopt for our work the model of diagnosis  before
prescription.

If a community is the patient, we doctor-practitioners have to study the
symptoms of that community to determine if a particular drug will be
beneficial now..

In the case of the powerful drug called a telecenter, there are times and
communities when that drug needs to be delayed or avoided until  there is a
readiness to benefit from it.

Steve Eskow

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