Re: automatically closing stale pull requests

2018-10-16 Thread tide via Digitalmars-d

On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 at 22:18:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

On 10/16/2018 1:16 PM, notna wrote:

[...]


We're not going to automatically close stale pull requests, nor 
are we going to arbitrarily close old unfixed bug reports.


Agreed, then there won't be those 5+ year old reports we can 
point to when an issue gets posted about on the forums and 
someone tells them to file a bug report.


Re: automatically closing stale pull requests

2018-10-16 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d

On 10/16/2018 1:16 PM, notna wrote:

[...]


We're not going to automatically close stale pull requests, nor are we going to 
arbitrarily close old unfixed bug reports.


Re: automatically closing stale pull requests

2018-10-16 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:10:38PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via 
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 10/16/18 4:16 PM, notna wrote:
> > another interesting discussion [1]... and old/stale pull requests
> > are also discussed here now and then... not sure if this [2] is
> > known to many ppl?!
> > 
> > - [1] https://marc.info/?t=15392665871=1=2
> > - [2] https://github.com/probot/stale
> 
> I've encountered stalebot before. I's probably the #1 dumbest software
> development idea I've ever seen.
> 
> "If we didn't fix the issue, then it must've magically fixed itself."
> 
> "Let's decrease our bugcount by closing bugs whether they've fixed or
> not."
> 
> Stupidest, most obviously bad idea ever.

+1.  "If we can't fix the problem, let's just close our eyes and pretend
it doesn't exist. It makes our bug count go down, so our software
quality must be magically improving!"

"It's been 10 years since we were unable to fix this bug, therefore
let's define it out of existence. We only fix easy problems, hard
problems don't exist in our universe."

If only software development were this easy!

Sadly, and scarily, this practice is often encountered in "enterprise"
projects, where managers are fixated on flawed metrics like bugcount to
the point of blinding themselves to the actual condition of the code.
It's the proverbial ostrich burying its head in the sand, at its finest.


T

-- 
Who told you to swim in Crocodile Lake without life insurance??


Re: automatically closing stale pull requests

2018-10-16 Thread Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via Digitalmars-d

On 10/16/18 4:16 PM, notna wrote:
another interesting discussion [1]... and old/stale pull requests are 
also discussed here now and then... not sure if this [2] is known to 
many ppl?!


- [1] https://marc.info/?t=15392665871=1=2
- [2] https://github.com/probot/stale


I've encountered stalebot before. I's probably the #1 dumbest software 
development idea I've ever seen.


"If we didn't fix the issue, then it must've magically fixed itself."

"Let's decrease our bugcount by closing bugs whether they've fixed or not."

Stupidest, most obviously bad idea ever.


automatically closing stale pull requests

2018-10-16 Thread notna via Digitalmars-d
another interesting discussion [1]... and old/stale pull requests 
are also discussed here now and then... not sure if this [2] is 
known to many ppl?!


- [1] https://marc.info/?t=15392665871=1=2
- [2] https://github.com/probot/stale