Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-04-15 Thread Lionello Lunesu
On 15-4-2010 13:50, Walter Bright wrote:
 Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 The presentation came and went, and was much appreciated, judging from
 the reactions :)
 
 Great! I hope you enjoyed it as well.

Yup, it was fun, and I've learned a lot doing it.

Hope I've managed to turn some more people to D as well :)

L.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-04-15 Thread Lionello Lunesu
On 14-4-2010 22:45, Moritz Warning wrote:
 Thank you for sharing!

You're welcome. Feel free to use them as a basis for whatever you want.

L.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-04-14 Thread Lionello Lunesu
On 10-3-2010 8:11, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
 meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet. There'll
 be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some of D2's new
 features as well.
 
 These meetings are free for everyone to attend, so come by if you live
 in Beijing, or you happen to be there.
 
 More information at http://tinyurl.com/y9ttldt
 
 See you there!
 
 Lionello.
 
 (I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are highly
 welcomed.)

The presentation came and went, and was much appreciated, judging from
the reactions :)

My slides can be downloaded from http://lunesu.com/uploads/DforBLUG1.odp

L.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-04-14 Thread Walter Bright

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

The presentation came and went, and was much appreciated, judging from
the reactions :)


Great! I hope you enjoyed it as well.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-10 Thread Lionello Lunesu
On 10-3-2010 10:07, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
 Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 On 10-3-2010 8:35, Walter Bright wrote:
 Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
 meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet.
 There'll
 be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some of D2's
 new
 features as well.
 Awesome!


 (I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are
 highly
 welcomed.)
 I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to
 engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a
 group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.

 Good tip, thanks.

 I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
 lazy part of me says yes :))
 
 I suggest not. When you'll be more experienced you'll be able to make-do
 even with the white board, but for now focus on preparing good slides
 and rehearsing them.

Hmm, yes.

 Walter's advice is good. Plus: make sure through rehearsing that your
 material fits within the allotted time.

Well, I noticed that most other presentations I've attended did indeed
go over time and not by a small amount either. So, apparently it's very
hard to stay within a certain time? Or, once you're standing there and
'get in the zone' you forget about the time?

I don't have a watch, but it seems that I might need one then.

L.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-10 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

On 10-3-2010 10:07, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

On 10-3-2010 8:35, Walter Bright wrote:

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet.
There'll
be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some of D2's
new
features as well.

Awesome!



(I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are
highly
welcomed.)

I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to
engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a
group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.

Good tip, thanks.

I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
lazy part of me says yes :))

I suggest not. When you'll be more experienced you'll be able to make-do
even with the white board, but for now focus on preparing good slides
and rehearsing them.


Hmm, yes.


Walter's advice is good. Plus: make sure through rehearsing that your
material fits within the allotted time.


Well, I noticed that most other presentations I've attended did indeed
go over time and not by a small amount either. So, apparently it's very
hard to stay within a certain time? Or, once you're standing there and
'get in the zone' you forget about the time?



I think it's rather that when you're preparing your slides, and reading 
them to yourself, you do it a lot faster than when you're actually doing 
the presentation.


I try to use 2 minutes per slide as a rule of thumb.

-Lars



Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-10 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 03/10/2010 01:55 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Walter's advice is good. Plus: make sure through rehearsing that your
material fits within the allotted time.


Well, I noticed that most other presentations I've attended did indeed
go over time and not by a small amount either. So, apparently it's very
hard to stay within a certain time? Or, once you're standing there and
'get in the zone' you forget about the time?


I don't think it's very difficult, just that most presenters don't pay 
attention to important details. And I believe time is an important 
detail. Going past allotted time in most circumstances is very 
unprofessional, reveals no concern and respect for the time of the 
audience (and sometimes for the general schedule and the following 
presenters), and gives the impression that the presenter is not in 
control of the material.


Always finish on time. *Everybody* will notice and appreciate that.


I don't have a watch, but it seems that I might need one then.


Wouldn't hurt. You can always borrow one from an attendee.


Andrei



Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-10 Thread Walter Bright

Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

On 03/10/2010 01:55 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

I don't have a watch, but it seems that I might need one then.


Wouldn't hurt. You can always borrow one from an attendee.


Heck, you can get one for $10 from the corner drugstore.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-10 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 03/10/2010 12:12 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

On 03/10/2010 01:55 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

I don't have a watch, but it seems that I might need one then.


Wouldn't hurt. You can always borrow one from an attendee.


Heck, you can get one for $10 from the corner drugstore.


Why waste money on a crappy watch that's not worth wearing? Get one from 
an attendee and make an acquiantance in the process.


Andrei


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread Walter Bright

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet. There'll
be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some of D2's new
features as well.


Awesome!



(I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are highly
welcomed.)


I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to 
engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a 
group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread Moritz Warning
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:47:00 +0800, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

 On 10-3-2010 8:35, Walter Bright wrote:
 Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
 meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet.
 There'll be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some
 of D2's new features as well.
 
 Awesome!
 
 
 (I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are
 highly welcomed.)
 
 I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to
 engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a
 group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.
 
 Good tip, thanks.
 
 I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
 lazy part of me says yes :))

Try to make page1.html, page2.html .. :


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

On 10-3-2010 8:35, Walter Bright wrote:

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet. There'll
be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some of D2's new
features as well.

Awesome!



(I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are highly
welcomed.)

I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to
engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a
group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.


Good tip, thanks.

I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
lazy part of me says yes :))


I suggest not. When you'll be more experienced you'll be able to make-do 
even with the white board, but for now focus on preparing good slides 
and rehearsing them.


Walter's advice is good. Plus: make sure through rehearsing that your 
material fits within the allotted time.



Andrei


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread Walter Bright

Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Good tip, thanks.


welcs


I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
lazy part of me says yes :))


I've abandoned it in favor of pdf:

1. HTML rendering sucks compared with pdf rendering. I don't know why, 
but when it gets blown up on a big screen, the HTML looks lousy. (The 
fonts.)


2. HTML tends to not scale well to different screen resolutions. So, if 
you're using a projector or something with a different screen res than 
you developed the presentation on, it can look cropped or otherwise 
goofy. PDF seems to scale well automatically.


3. It's hard to do any sort of simple graphics in HTML. It's easy with a 
powerpoint program.


4. I've had problems with margins on HTML, i.e. some projectors would do 
things like just cut off the left side. No problems with PDF.


5. The scrolling HTML comes off as quirky to a lot of people, and that 
reflects poorly on the presenter and what they're presenting.


6. I've been using Impress (part of Openoffice) and while it can be a 
wacky thing to use now and then, the result can be exported to a pdf 
which is pretty bulletproof and looks great when projected.


7. PDF packs everything you need into one convenient file. HTML is a 
directory full of files.


8. Your presentation computer may have a different browser than the one 
you developed the presentation on, and so may render unexpectedly 
differently, or even fail completely.



Always always always carry an extra copy of your PDF's on a USB stick 
and an SD card, and carry them separately from your laptop. Laptops 
break and get stolen. With your presentation on a USB stick, you're good 
to go with just about any computer available.


I've also found it worthwhile to bring along a laser pointer. It's 
easier than running around at the last minute trying to scrounge one 
from the event organizers. Same goes for a wireless remote that plugs 
into your laptop to page up and down. The remote and the laser are often 
in one convenient device.


Bring fresh batteries for the remote!


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread bearophile
Walter Bright:
 I've abandoned it in favor of pdf:

 I've also found it worthwhile to bring along a laser pointer.

I do all you do for the reasons you do. I just lack the laser pointer :-)

Bye,
bearophile


Re: April 13th: Presenting D at the Beijing Linux User Group

2010-03-09 Thread Lionello Lunesu
On 10-3-2010 10:01, Moritz Warning wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:47:00 +0800, Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 
 On 10-3-2010 8:35, Walter Bright wrote:
 Lionello Lunesu wrote:
 I'll be presenting the D Programming Language at the next monthly BLUG
 meeting. It'll mostly be for people who haven't heard of D yet.
 There'll be a fair chunk of D1 in there, but I'm hoping to touch some
 of D2's new features as well.

 Awesome!


 (I'm fairly new to 'presenting stuff' in general, so all tips are
 highly welcomed.)

 I've noticed that things seem to go better if the presenter tries to
 engage the audience by asking them questions thereby inviting more of a
 group discussion, as opposed to just reading the slides to them.

 Good tip, thanks.

 I'm wondering: should I do the 'scrolling HTML', in true D style? The
 lazy part of me says yes :))
 
 Try to make page1.html, page2.html .. :

Yes, I'll go the PDF way, with real pages :)