Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-04-12 Thread Jay Norwood

On Tuesday, 3 April 2012 at 14:10:32 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:

Most of his code isn't available as it was kind of under
Microsoft. However I revived Juno for D2 awhile ago (still need
to play with it myself). Juno provides some nice tools and API.

https://github.com/JesseKPhillips/Juno-Windows-Class-Library

http://dsource.org/projects/juno


There was a discussion about D support for xpcom at this thread a 
few years back, where the conclusion seems to have been that 
xpcom usage was abi compatible.  Have you  tested communicating 
with xpcom objects using the juno library?


http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fqkfsu$25g5$1...@digitalmars.com#post-fqph1i:241kk3:241:40digitalmars.com


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-04-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg

On 2012-04-12 17:59, Jay Norwood wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 April 2012 at 14:10:32 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:

Most of his code isn't available as it was kind of under
Microsoft. However I revived Juno for D2 awhile ago (still need
to play with it myself). Juno provides some nice tools and API.

https://github.com/JesseKPhillips/Juno-Windows-Class-Library

http://dsource.org/projects/juno


There was a discussion about D support for xpcom at this thread a few
years back, where the conclusion seems to have been that xpcom usage was
abi compatible. Have you tested communicating with xpcom objects using
the juno library?

http://forum.dlang.org/thread/fqkfsu$25g5$1...@digitalmars.com#post-fqph1i:241kk3:241:40digitalmars.com


DWT uses XPCOM to integrate Firefox if I recall correctly.

--
/Jacob Carlborg


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-04-08 Thread Sam Hu

On Tuesday, 3 April 2012 at 14:10:32 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:

On Tuesday, 3 April 2012 at 07:49:28 UTC, Sam Hu wrote:


Sorry the link http://dpxml-lio/d is unreachable from my side
(maybe someone blocked it :P).Could you please provide an
alternative place for download?

Appreciated.

Regards,
Sam


Most of his code isn't available as it was kind of under
Microsoft. However I revived Juno for D2 awhile ago (still need
to play with it myself). Juno provides some nice tools and API.

https://github.com/JesseKPhillips/Juno-Windows-Class-Library

http://dsource.org/projects/juno


Thanks for the reply.Yes,Juno is great,I use it since D1.

Regards,
Sam


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-04-03 Thread Jesse Phillips

On Tuesday, 3 April 2012 at 07:49:28 UTC, Sam Hu wrote:


Sorry the link http://dpxml-lio/d is unreachable from my side
(maybe someone blocked it :P).Could you please provide an
alternative place for download?

Appreciated.

Regards,
Sam


Most of his code isn't available as it was kind of under
Microsoft. However I revived Juno for D2 awhile ago (still need
to play with it myself). Juno provides some nice tools and API.

https://github.com/JesseKPhillips/Juno-Windows-Class-Library

http://dsource.org/projects/juno


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-26 Thread Sean Kelly
Very nice!  One tiny thing I noticed so far--the last 2 comments on page 8 are 
backwards. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Lionello Lunesu l...@lunesu.remove.com wrote:

 Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I used D to 
 write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to get permission to 
 share these slides, and what'dya know:
 
 http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html
 
 Direct link to the slides: 
 http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx
 
 Let me know what you guys think!
 
 Lionello.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-26 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 26-1-2012 22:30, Sean Kelly wrote:

Very nice!  One tiny thing I noticed so far--the last 2 comments on page 8 are 
backwards.


Yeah, saw that as well. Good catch! :)


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread kdmult
On Wednesday, 25 January 2012 at 01:08:04 UTC, Lionello Lunesu 
wrote:

Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Could you correct the URL of your files on the last page?


My files
http://dpxml-lio/d/




Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu

On 1/24/12 9:10 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

On 1/24/2012 5:07 PM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Added to interface.html


http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ow7qc/modern_com_programming_in_d/

Andrei


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread bls

On 01/24/2012 09:07 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I used
D to write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to get
permission to share these slides, and what'dya know:

http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html

Direct link to the slides:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx

Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


Congratulations Lionello, This is not just a useful snippet. You have 
been able to explain all the D2 goodies in a reasonable context.


This code should have a home and live at Fine_Art_Of_D2_Programming.com
Very well done!
Thank You, Bjoern



Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 25-1-2012 2:26, Walter Bright wrote:

On 1/24/2012 9:07 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I
used D to
write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to get
permission to
share these slides, and what'dya know:

http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html


Direct link to the slides:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx

Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


I'd like to link to this.

But first, please turn the slides into a single .pdf file! Or html.
Something browser friendly.


Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Walter Bright

On 1/24/2012 5:07 PM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Added to interface.html


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Tuesday, 24 January 2012 at 17:08:01 UTC, Lionello Lunesu 
wrote:
Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about 
how I used D to write readable COM code. A while back I thought 
I'd try to get permission to share these slides, and what'dya 
know:


http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html

Direct link to the slides: 
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx


Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


I have some questions related to this.

One, do you know about Juno?
http://www.dsource.org/projects/juno
New Source location: 
https://github.com/he-the-great/Juno-Windows-Class-Library


Two, how does your work compare? Are these improvements that 
could go into Juno?


Three, you may be interested to know about tlbimpd: 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/juno/wiki/TypeLibraryImporter


I revived the project for D2, but Richard Webb has actually done 
the work to make it usable. Wondering if effort on this could be 
consolidated and as brought up in the reddit comments maybe work 
could go towards WinRT support?


Great presentation material though. Thank you for having done so.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 25-1-2012 14:56, kdmult wrote:

On Wednesday, 25 January 2012 at 01:08:04 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Could you correct the URL of your files on the last page?


My files
http://dpxml-lio/d/




Yeah, that's not meant to work. Releasing the source code it a entirely 
different process that I don't think is worth it. I'll remove the link 
from the slide.


Lionello.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 25-1-2012 14:56, kdmult wrote:

On Wednesday, 25 January 2012 at 01:08:04 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Done:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf


Could you correct the URL of your files on the last page?


My files
http://dpxml-lio/d/




Yeah, that's not meant to work. Releasing the source code it a entirely 
different process that I don't think is worth it. I'll remove the link 
from the slide.


Lionello.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 26-1-2012 0:58, bls wrote:

On 01/24/2012 09:07 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I used
D to write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to get
permission to share these slides, and what'dya know:

http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html


Direct link to the slides:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx

Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


Congratulations Lionello, This is not just a useful snippet. You have
been able to explain all the D2 goodies in a reasonable context.

This code should have a home and live at Fine_Art_Of_D2_Programming.com
Very well done!
Thank You, Bjoern



Thanks Bjoern! :)


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Lionello Lunesu

On 26-1-2012 4:50, Jesse Phillips wrote:

On Tuesday, 24 January 2012 at 17:08:01 UTC, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I
used D to write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to
get permission to share these slides, and what'dya know:

http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html


Direct link to the slides:
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx

Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


I have some questions related to this.

One, do you know about Juno?
http://www.dsource.org/projects/juno
New Source location:
https://github.com/he-the-great/Juno-Windows-Class-Library


Hadn't heard of it, no. Checking it now.


Two, how does your work compare? Are these improvements that could go
into Juno?


My code is a template that generates wrappers for COM interfaces. Sure, 
that template can be part of any related library, but the prerequisites 
probably make it too niche to be universally useful. For one, it needs a 
D-style interface definition for the COM interfaces.



Three, you may be interested to know about tlbimpd:
http://www.dsource.org/projects/juno/wiki/TypeLibraryImporter

I revived the project for D2, but Richard Webb has actually done the
work to make it usable. Wondering if effort on this could be
consolidated and as brought up in the reddit comments maybe work could
go towards WinRT support?


Hmm, this would work beautifully! tlbimpd could be extended to generate 
the same kind of wrappers for each COM object/interface.


About WinRT... That's actually how my code started out. There are still 
some WinR Treferences in the slides that I should have removed. Anyway, 
now that WinRT is 'out in the open' that's no longer an issue. So, yes, 
the same trick works for all of WinRT.



Great presentation material though. Thank you for having done so.


Thanks!

L.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-25 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Thursday, 26 January 2012 at 03:50:38 UTC, Lionello Lunesu 
wrote:


Hmm, this would work beautifully! tlbimpd could be extended to 
generate the same kind of wrappers for each COM 
object/interface.


About WinRT... That's actually how my code started out. There 
are still some WinR Treferences in the slides that I should 
have removed. Anyway, now that WinRT is 'out in the open' 
that's no longer an issue. So, yes, the same trick works for 
all of WinRT.


Looked more in depth at your code I see that you demonstrated the 
D IDL which I think is what tlbimpd is doing, still need to 
piece all these components together myself.


Looking at the Wikipage on WinRT, it seems that tlb is being 
dropped and replaced with a meta data format similar to .Net's. 
This would definitely be a nice area to have expanded.


There is also a comparison you do and I'm curious how you see 
this one working. VARIANT - std.variant. In Juno the Variant 
struct is defined and it seems their are functions which take 
that type. Isn't the struct definition still going to be required 
for interoperability. It could be made transparent to the user 
though.


Re: Modern COM Programming in D

2012-01-24 Thread Walter Bright

On 1/24/2012 9:07 AM, Lionello Lunesu wrote:

Little over a year ago I held a tech talk at Microsoft about how I used D to
write readable COM code. A while back I thought I'd try to get permission to
share these slides, and what'dya know:

http://lunesu.com/index.php?/archives/126-Modern-COM-Programming-in-D.html

Direct link to the slides: 
http://lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pptx

Let me know what you guys think!

Lionello.


I'd like to link to this.

But first, please turn the slides into a single .pdf file! Or html. Something 
browser friendly.