Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 4 May 2015 at 03:23:08 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

I covered two weeks this time, as I missed last week.


A switch was added to git to start profiling the GC itself, as 
part of a general push toward better memory management in D.


That should read: A switch was added to *DMD*


Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 05/03/2015 11:23 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

I covered two weeks this time, as I missed last week.

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/may-03.html

The tip this week might be a bit controversial but I actually feel kinda
strongly about this. So many times, I see people asking questions about
how to do task X in D.



Actually, I came over to this forum thread just now specifically to say 
that I liked that tip quite a lot. It's a very good (and well-written) 
point that perhaps doesn't always get communicated as well as it should.




Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 5/3/15 8:23 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

I covered two weeks this time, as I missed last week.

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/may-03.html


http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/34uji5/d_hackathon_roundup_and_tip_of_the_week_dont_be/

https://twitter.com/D_Programming/status/595287061990506497

https://www.facebook.com/dlang.org/posts/1062292857117728


Andrei




Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 4 May 2015 at 03:50:57 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

A pet peeve from the community section might be a great idea!


If you ever want to rant, type it up and email it to me, I'll 
work it in!


BTW I also have a window open on my browser somewhere to chat 
with you about audio stuff. Been pretty busy lately but want you 
to know that I haven't forgotten!


Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 4 May 2015 at 09:01:31 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:

That should read: A switch was added to *DMD*


ah right, I made it to dmd git; what I meant was the git 
version but it can always be clearer.


Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-04 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 5/05/2015 7:01 a.m., Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

On Monday, 4 May 2015 at 03:50:57 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:

A pet peeve from the community section might be a great idea!


If you ever want to rant, type it up and email it to me, I'll work it in!

BTW I also have a window open on my browser somewhere to chat with you
about audio stuff. Been pretty busy lately but want you to know that I
haven't forgotten!


Awesome sweet!


Re: This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-03 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Mon, 04 May 2015 03:23:07 +, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

 So I guess it is more a peeve of mine than anything else, but I wanted
 to talk about it anyway and used the tip of the week as my vehicle. D
 code that looks like C isn't a bad thing, indeed, I think it is a
 selling point.

i found that i can write code in C style first, and then gradually 
converting it to be more D-like. btw, it's a great way to start using D 
for begginers with C expirience: just do it as you are used to, and then 
change some parts as you learned new trick.

it's very useful when converting C libraries to D. i have some libraries 
that is hard/impractical to rewrite from scratch in D, but i want 'em in 
D to ease hacking and improving. so i'm first converting code using D as 
better C, and then adding better interfaces or rewriting some parts.

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This Week in D #15: hackathon, mem management, ARM, tip for C coders

2015-05-03 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

I covered two weeks this time, as I missed last week.

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/may-03.html

The tip this week might be a bit controversial but I actually 
feel kinda strongly about this. So many times, I see people 
asking questions about how to do task X in D.


I think that's the wrong question: you should just be asking how 
to do task X. The programming language isn't terribly important: 
if you can do it in C, you can do it in D basically the same way; 
D provides similar language features to other common languages 
like C and Java, so a LOT of knowledge carries over from them... 
as long as you aren't afraid to use it.


I think that when people are new to D, we ought to press this 
carry-over point. They don't have to forget everything and 
suddenly do everything the D way, using only Phobos, doing it all 
with lazy ranges, etc. It doesn't have to be all that new, 
unfamiliar territory at once.


Similarly, I get a bit bothered when I see a lot of work done to 
add a bit of common functionality to a C library. Now, don't get 
me wrong, I reinvent the wheel as much as the next guy (actually, 
I don't even like the term reinventing the wheel exactly 
because so much knowledge carries over. Just because I'm 
re-coding it doesn't mean I'm reinventing it. By carrying over 
knowledge of the problem domain from any source, it makes coding 
it again a lot easier - I already know what needs to be done and 
where the pitfalls are, unlike a truly novel invention, where all 
that is a mystery going into it. But I digress).


I almost never use third party libraries personally for a variety 
of reasons, so I get the desire to rewrite things, especially 
when D offers so many ways to do it better than ever before.


But at the same time, I'm  also a working programmer accustomed 
to things like last-minute client requests, deadlines, and other 
schedule constraints (including just simply not *wanting* to 
spend that kind of time on a problem, believe it or not, I don't 
actually care for programming all day every day)



In these cases, being able to say yes we can, and I can do it 
today, though it might look like C is so much more valuable than 
saying maybe... if I figure out how to make it idiomatic D




So I guess it is more a peeve of mine than anything else, but I 
wanted to talk about it anyway and used the tip of the week as my 
vehicle. D code that looks like C isn't a bad thing, indeed, I 
think it is a selling point.